🕯️ Traditions Drag Queens teaching children here in the Philippines?

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Lol! Ang pananamit ay importante. Much more important nasa school ka eh. Di mo nga ma respect ano ang common decency how to properly dress on school, teaching pa?

And according to psychology most of the time, how you dress in publicly is the result of the state of your mind. If you are so not orderly look outside it reflect how chaotic the state of your mind. Kaya nga I don't trust this drag queens teaching our children.

I am not saying that is always the case, because some psychopaths dress well also to temp the naives.

I am from a rock 'n roll / metalcore scene, so I have friends who have many tattoos, longs hairs, big earrings, dark dress cods and gothic style, but some of the niciest persons I know. But when we are invited to different events we dress well according to that event.

You I describing the current norm. And yes I agree that is the norm. Pero ikaw na din nagsabi it is not always the case, so why will you insist that you don't trust people by the way they dress then in the same paragraph acknowledge that some people who do not dress well are psychopaths? I think you already see the point.

Besides, the message ng lgbt was not "act like me" or "dress like me".. if you look up the book na hawak nila it said it is fine whatever you want to be, that includes being a heterosexual dressing properly.

I am pretty sure this is a theme na naituro na sayo ng religion mo at some point in your life - this misguided judgement of others due to social norms.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

You I describing the current norm. And yes I agree that is the norm. Pero ikaw na din nagsabi it is not always the case, so why will you insist that you don't trust people by the way they dress then in the same paragraph acknowledge that some people who do not dress well are psychopaths? I think you already see the point.

Besides, the message ng lgbt was not "act like me" or "dress like me".. if you look up the book na hawak nila it said it is fine whatever you want to be, that includes being a heterosexual dressing properly.

I am pretty sure this is a theme na naituro na sayo ng religion mo at some point in your life - this misguided judgement of others due to social norms.

It's more than just social norms. What do you think of the norms are just made up without proper etiquette?

Di mo ata binasa lahat, kasi sinabi ko in the end, even we sa community ng mga rock 'n roll/metalcore scene, we still dress well according to that said event. And may proper dress code na ang mga magtuturo, do we bow down to the standard of others just to please some delusionals?

Cge nga of proper dress code is not really important, picture yourself only wearing boxers/briefs inside a classroom, or sê×ÿ lingërie. Then post it here.

 

[HowSoonIsNow]

It's more than just social norms. What do you think of the norms are just made up without proper etiquette?

Di mo ata binasa lahat, kasi sinabi ko in the end, even we sa community ng mga rock 'n roll/metalcore scene, we still dress well according to that said event. And may proper dress code na ang mga magtuturo, do we bow down to the standard of others just to please some delusionals?

Cge nga of proper dress code is not really important, picture yourself only wearing boxers/briefs inside a classroom, or sê×ÿ lingërie. Then post it here.

cant wait to see if they can do this. lols

 

[plhbg1]

Cge nga of proper dress code is not really important, picture yourself only wearing boxers/briefs inside a classroom, or sê×ÿ lingërie. Then post it here.

haha bakit ikaw ang magdi-dictate kung anu isusuot? ibig mo sabihin someone else dictated din na mag suot sila ng halloween costume?

 

[EriX-Zone]

In the first place paano ipapaliwanag sa mga bata ang lgbtqrstuv, sa dami ng sub-species nyo kayo mismo andaming claimed identity magulo na e, and isa pa murang edad nila bakit nyo introduce yun existence nyo, bakit di nyo na lng hintayin kung sino ang lalabas na bakla atsaka nyo i welcome sa federasyon ninyo

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Meron na ata gumawa at nagrebel talaga. Babae nga lang. Nag rebelde siya. Naglakad ang babae sa maraming student sa harap ng campus pero ang babae ay n@ked. Taas noo siya. Pinagtingan siya ng mga student. Sa kanya, wala siya pakialam. Ang na perceived ko ay ayaw niya sumunod sa convention. Talaga naglakad siya as sign of being a rebel. But of course, movie lang iyon.

Ganyan ang symbolism na nakikita ko kapag during graduation events na sinasabi dito at ipinag-uusapan, meron tao na never ever susunod kung ano ang standard dress code sa mismong graduation event. Never. Ganun. Kasi... lahat ng mga tao dumalo sa graduation events need talaga mag conform sa dress code sapagkat iyon ang morally right thing to do or iyon ang tinatawag na conventional ika nga. So parang ganyan ang nakikita ko sa drag queen na they want to be who they are. They won't conform po.

But of course, no one understand my post dahil ang tinutukoy nilang dress code ay ang kung ano ang normal standard na dapat ebehave ng tao sa specific events katulad ng non gender binary po na need talaga sila na mag conform sa proper dressing ng inaasahan ng mga gender binary po, I meant ideologies ng gender binary po as appropriate raw for kids. Like must be dress according to their birth biological gender po.

Like I said, hindi talaga sila susunod. Susundin pa rin nila kung ano ang tinitibok-tibok ng puso at damdamin nila based on how they dress and how they behave.

So... anong gagawin ng ayaw? Sa loob-loob ko, I think, gawa na rin sila ng movements. Haha. Joke lang.

Sabi ko nga, ahem, hindi ma didisolve ang movements na meron sa kanila o sa ibang group as long as hindi nila nakukuha ang desire result na inaasam-asam po nila. So. Yun. Expect na existing pa rin sila kahit saan sulok ng lugar.​

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

It's more than just social norms. What do you think of the norms are just made up without proper etiquette?

Di mo ata binasa lahat, kasi sinabi ko in the end, even we sa community ng mga rock 'n roll/metalcore scene, we still dress well according to that said event. And may proper dress code na ang mga magtuturo, do we bow down to the standard of others just to please some delusionals?

Cge nga of proper dress code is not really important, picture yourself only wearing boxers/briefs inside a classroom, or sê×ÿ lingërie. Then post it here.

Proper etiquette are norms that are all made up. Sa gulo ng tanong mo, i think you don't understand how culture works.

Coexisting with others does not mean you bow down to them. Why does it have to be all or nothing? Puro fallacy after fallacy mga argument mo brad... yan yung sinsabi ko when i said you are blowing this out of proportion.

Is tolerance such a hard concept to grasp? Kahit sa mga pambatang pabula naituro naman na yan.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Proper etiquette are norms that are all made up. Sa gulo ng tanong mo, i think you don't understand how culture works.

Coexisting with others does not mean you bow down to them. Why does it have to be all or nothing? Puro fallacy after fallacy mga argument mo brad... yan yung sinsabi ko when i said you are blowing this out of proportion.

Is tolerance such a hard concept to grasp? Kahit sa mga pambatang pabula naituro naman na yan.

It's not just made up out of thine air. It has will has its reasons. Being clean looking or what we call a formal clothe now is basically base on what is CLEAN.

It should be, kasi nga meron nang rules ang specific school, they should just follow, it's not hard science to do so.

We don't tolerate delusional people targeting kids do we?

And by the way can you do it? Wearing lingêrie inside a school? since "cLoThE dOn'T mAtTer" except for the lgbtq+++

 

[mutagenesisx]

In the first place paano ipapaliwanag sa mga bata ang lgbtqrstuv, sa dami ng sub-species nyo kayo mismo andaming claimed identity magulo na e, and isa pa murang edad nila bakit nyo introduce yun existence nyo, bakit di nyo na lng hintayin kung sino ang lalabas na bakla atsaka nyo i welcome sa federasyon ninyo

kaya nga, kahit na tuturo-an mo mga bata at teens nang conservative ways meron padin talaga mag iibang bakod o ma tutubo-an nang sungay.

mas maganda talaga maging conserbativo muna mga bata, dahil mas simple eto at madaling ma digest nang mga bata.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

It's not just made up out of thine air. It has will has its reasons. Being clean looking or what we call a formal clothe now is basically base on what is CLEAN.

I agree there are reasons. And the reason is how others percieve you. Pero yung movement nga is to get out of the established perception. It is the perception that is being changed, or we should at least be more critical about. There are symbolisms in society that may be obsolete for our era.

We don't tolerate delusional people targeting kids do we?

Kayo lang ng assign them into "delusional" people then accuse them of "targetting kids". Yan n nga ba sinasabi kong problema is you keep on labeling people and enclose your perception within the label you yourself created. You tend to create false dilemma's.

And by the way can you do it? Wearing lingêrie inside a school? since "cLoThE dOn'T mAtTer" except for the lgbtq+++

Because that is not how I would E×ρréšš my self. That is their preference and not mine. Ibahin mo sila sa conservatives na ang stance ay "this is what you MUST do." All they are saying is "this is what you CAN do."

kaya nga, kahit na tuturo-an mo mga bata at teens nang conservative ways meron padin talaga mag iibang bakod o ma tutubo-an nang sungay.

mas maganda talaga maging conserbativo muna mga bata, dahil mas simple eto at madaling ma digest nang mga bata.

Conservativism, in the deepest sense, is "be like your parents and ancestors." This is the default in society. Pero whether that is good or bad for the kids no one can truly say. What i am sure about is, yan yung mas madali para sa parents ituro sa bata, kasi it does not require them to learn anything new. Kaya nga meron tayong malaking spectrum of how parents do the parenting ranging from tolerating to restrictive.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

I agree there are reasons. And the reason is how others percieve you. Pero yung movement nga is to get out of the established perception. It is the perception that is being changed, or we should at least be more critical about. There are symbolisms in society that may be obsolete for our era.

No the perception of clean looking will not change. It will always be CLEAN. No one in a right mind wants to sleep on a mud puddle or let just say sleep in a very dirty smelly room compared to a clean room. That is how and will always percept cleanliness and that connects to what we wear, how we present ourselves, how orderly our life is and the condition of our mind.

Now if pertains to what we wear, the style can be change but it will always reflect what is CLEAN.

Kayo lang ng assign them into "delusional" people then accuse them of "targetting kids". Yan n nga ba sinasabi kong problema is you keep on labeling people and enclose your perception within the label you yourself created. You tend to create false dilemma's.

Kayo lang din nagsasabi na we tend to create false dillemma's when in reality it is happening. It's just you refuse to see because you want inclusiveness and tolerance.

Because that is not how I would E×ρréšš my self. That is their preference and not mine. Ibahin mo sila sa conservatives na ang stance ay "this is what you MUST do." All they are saying is "this is what you CAN do."

The movement never was and never will be ONLY suggesting some stuff on what to do. We already seeing it on the west the fruits of their movement.

 

[mutagenesisx]

I agree there are reasons. And the reason is how others percieve you. Pero yung movement nga is to get out of the established perception. It is the perception that is being changed, or we should at least be more critical about. There are symbolisms in society that may be obsolete for our era.

Kayo lang ng assign them into "delusional" people then accuse them of "targetting kids". Yan n nga ba sinasabi kong problema is you keep on labeling people and enclose your perception within the label you yourself created. You tend to create false dilemma's.

Because that is not how I would E×ρréšš my self. That is their preference and not mine. Ibahin mo sila sa conservatives na ang stance ay "this is what you MUST do." All they are saying is "this is what you CAN do."


Conservativism, in the deepest sense, is "be like your parents and ancestors." This is the default in society. Pero whether that is good or bad for the kids no one can truly say. What i am sure about is, yan yung mas madali para sa parents ituro sa bata, kasi it does not require them to learn anything new. Kaya nga meron tayong malaking spectrum of how parents do the parenting ranging from tolerating to restrictive.

kaya nga, sooner or later matutubo-an din naman mga sungay mga yan.. much better to give them simple task.

my analogy is as a cyclist, give them a hybrid bike before introducing them to rebel culture that we call "fixed gear cyling" or downhill mountain biking. Teach them the rules of the road rather that teach them what is cool or not.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Meron ako story. Isa siyang feminist man. Meron anak na babae na 4 years old. Parent siya. Sabi ng anak niya na babae na gusto daw niya magkaroon ng p(e)nis. Ang sabi ng tatay niya, "be whatever you want". And then pagkatapos nagsusuot ang tatay niya ng heels at nakikita ng anak niya na babae kapag magkasabay sila naglalaro. Hindi siya gay. Lalake po siya.

Pagkatapos, I remember na noon bata pa ako. Meron na ako nakalaro na lalake pero hindi pa siya umaabot ng 10 years old, nakikitaan na siya na meron quality of being a feminine. Mahinhin siya and mala-babae ang kilos niya. Literal speaking. Then ang lahat ng friends niya and included me when we were kids, magkakasama kami lahat pagdating sa laro. Ang kutob ng nakakakita sa kanya galing sa amin, malakas ang kutob nila na magiging gay ang kalaro namin na lalake kapag naging ãdül† na siya. Which is totoo nga, ngayon, ang kapitbahay namin na dati namin kalaro, gay talaga siya at meron siyang boyfriend.

So kung usapan ay yung early age, sa mismong topic, kung sino man drag queen na nagteteach, malakas ang kutob ko na alam nila iyon. Meron talaga instances na kahit at the early age ng isang bata, alam na nila ang kung ano ang self nila. Kung baga hindi lang siya na eeducate. Ngayon hindi ko sinasabi na lahat ng kids ay ganoon po na tipong automatic ay magiging lesbian o gay na po. Naiintindihan ko kasi na hindi pa nga namumulat ang murang edad na existing pala ang ganyan non-gender binary.

I think alam ng kung sinong drag queen po ang ganoon sitwasyon dahil meron talaga nangyayari na since bata, incline talaga siya na maging ganun. Hindi siya finoforce. Ini-educate lang naman ang "being self". Hindi nila finoforce na maging bakla o tomboy ang bata. I think nakakarelate lang sila sa situation kung kaya , nag iinitiate na po sila pagdating sa pag eeducate ng mga kids yung "being self". Iyon ang naiintindihan ko.

Ngayon nagkakaroon ng threat sa iba lalo na ibang tao na hindi agree sa ideology ng non gender binary po, kaya ang gusto nila, huwag muna sa bata ituro. Sabi ng iba, maging ãdül† muna bago ma educate. Ito lang ang nakikita ko, gusto kasi nila ipamulat muna ang concept of a man and a woman para hindi makalimot kung ano ang nararapat na normal and huli na lang eeducate kapag naging ãdül† na po ang mga kids and so, parang nasa safe mode sila na if ever naturuan o na educate ang kids patungkol sa non gender binary po kapag naging ãdül† na, andoon pa rin ang ini-ingat ingatan nila ideologies na men and women only.

Correct ba ako? Or mali? Meron kasi ibang kids na naging ãdül† na kung ano ang natutunan nila, iyon lang iyon and so kung na influence sila ng ideology from heterosexual of a man and a woman, meron kasi na posibility na kapag naging ãdül† na ang mga kids, ma educate man sila, maaaring hindi na nila ma grasp ang kung ano man ang gusto eeducate sa kanila from the movements or from the groups. Maaari lang sa iba. Kasi, kapag naging ãdül† na, diba meron kasabihan na kapag hindi na malambot ang sangay, hindi na siya easy to break. Iyan and sinasabi na pwede maging incline ang ãdül† na maging homophobic dahil iba ang natutunan ng kids bago sila maging ãdül†.

Yung indoctrination nga ng Adam at Eve, in the early age, tinuturuan na po ang mga little kids. Nang naging ãdül† na sila, hindi na siya easy to break. Hindi na nila ma grasp na it is a myth ang creation ng Adam and Eve. Example lang iyan. Bibihira lang makawala sa indoctrination po nang nakareceive ng indoctrination since kids ang naturuan , I mean bibihira o ang ilan-ilan lang naman based on experience or kung ano ang na aadapt in the society po nila. Iyan ang example. Hindi na siya easy to break. Makikipagdebate lang muna para ma convince dahil hindi na siya pwede alisin kung ano ang natutunan mismo.​

 

[humotsholalat]

Ano na ba nangyayari sa mundo. hahays. for me lang, mother na kase ako. against ako sa ginagawa nila. di naman sa ayaw ko sa kanila kasi may mga "gay" friends din ako pero hindi naman cguro tama tong ginagawa nila. mga bata pa yang tinuturuan nila nasa stage pa sila ng pag aaral, bakit ba nandyan sila? di ko maintindihan. maguguluhan pa mga bata niyan eh. mga musmus pa yan sila. tsk.

 

[EriX-Zone]

Kulang sa atensyon
Hindi happy sa napili nilang buhay
Kaya nang gugulo ng ibang buhay
Cocktail dress sa kainitan ng araw?
Sa maling lugar?

 

[etatae]

aside from morality, my take on this from economic perspective eh yung demasculinization ay may adverse effect lalo na sa manpower. Also, in the near future, 3 to 4 generations from now, hindi na ako magtataka kung mag pa-plummet ang birth rate.

 

[jayendecastro]

Parang slot and sloth mo rin yan e, na recall ko lng


Informal lesson equals informal dress?

Yes. They are not there to teach like any other school teachers. They were there to specifically to share about gender.

We are not saying to dress as typical teacher. At least a decent dress. Panong di inappropriate, your cross dressing and drag queens nga. Now to get back the the very main point. We shouldn't allow drag queens to teach this delusions to children (the whole gender ideology movement).

You compare to them to teachers though. Its the same thing pag nagiinvite ng mga “community helpers” like police, firefighters etc… yes they can dress like any other people or they can wear their own uniforms.. ang point jan khit pa iconsider mo sya as “costume” lang.. part pa din un ng lesson na gusto nila iparating. It further emphasizes their point and the idea na gusto nila maintindihan ng audience. Ung mere fact kasi na they use drag ang masama for you along with what they are teaching.

Im sure kung its any other individual teaching a whole different lesson di mo masasamain..

 

[Gildarts Tale]

You compare to them to teachers though. Its the same thing pag nagiinvite ng mga “community helpers” like police, firefighters etc… yes they can dress like any other people or they can wear their own uniforms.. ang point jan khit pa iconsider mo sya as “costume” lang.. part pa din un ng lesson na gusto nila iparating. It further emphasizes their point and the idea na gusto nila maintindihan ng audience. Ung mere fact kasi na they use drag ang masama for you along with what they are teaching.

Im sure kung its any other individual teaching a whole different lesson di mo masasamain..

I get what you saying. But there are many outfits that are clean look even in the lgbtq+++ community.

Compared to other community helpers. Drag queen are known specially on bars and some adults clubs. Kaya nga I emphasized about them being drag queens. Specially when they are around children.

Even it's still a different lesson but have the same outlook masasamain ko rin, kasi ng conservative ako, school should be a place that children are safe even sa nakikita nila.

 

[hardcorepoetry]

Wow comparable sa police firefighters and the likes ang drag peeps nyo?
Talagang iba na mindset nyo

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Haaay......... mahirap mahalin ang bansang Pilipinas. Ehhh... kapag ganyan ang mentality nila about sa kapwa tao na meron prejudice and discrimination pagdating on how people behave sa non-gender binary po, pagkatapos halos ganoon pa rin ang conservative ideologies na hinahawakan ng iba pagkatapos meron pang dominant-dominant gender pang nilalaman....... kung ganoon na lang kalakas ang influence ang masculinity nito at kung kagaano ka affect sa mga tao, papaano niyo ako maaasahan na makikipagreconcile at mahalin ang bansang Pilipinas?

Pagkatapos ma ooffend ang mga filipino na kapag nagsalita ako ng I do not like Philippines anymore and anything na meron kilalaman sa Pilipinas, hindi na ako magpaparticipate as long as makakaya ko.

Done na po ako. Nagsuffer na ako sa Pinas. Enough is enough.​