🕯️ Traditions Drag Queens teaching children here in the Philippines?

[Gildarts Tale]

They are really targeting the kids. Tsk2.

Our society is simping with this delusional gender ideology movement.

 

[LordCED]

Tsk tsk tsk sino at saan lugar boss?

 

[Arjienx]

tuwang tuwa naman si sir sa tabi. haha

 

[PHC-sy]

paktay na

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Tsk tsk tsk sino at saan lugar boss?

Mandaue City.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Anong gagawin niyo? Magdasal na lang kayo. Wala na kasi kayo magagawa. Let them be. Fear is an illusion. Iyon lang iyon. Kung delusional naman sila, sabi ng iba which is according to them, ang iba naman ay nag iillusion sa fear. Same lang po. Quits lang ika nga.

Tanggapin niyo lang po. Katulad na lang na pagtanggap ko sa kultura ng Pilipinas na wala ako magawa sa pagiging patriarchy po na existing talaga at wala ako control. Hindi na lang ako nagpaparticipate po.​

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Anong gagawin niyo? Magdasal na lang kayo. Wala na kasi kayo magagawa. Let them be. Fear is an illusion. Iyon lang iyon. Kung delusional naman sila, sabi ng iba which is according to them, ang iba naman ay nag iillusion sa fear. Same lang po. Quits lang ika nga.

Tanggapin niyo lang po. Katulad na lang na pagtanggap ko sa kultura ng Pilipinas na wala ako magawa sa pagiging patriarchy po na existing talaga at wala ako control. Hindi na lang ako nagpaparticipate po.​

Let them be teaching delusions to children? Sino ba may sabing may fear dito? I am just stating facts that the gender ideology movement is already in the Philippines.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Let them be teaching delusions to children? Sino ba may sabing may fear dito? I am just stating facts that the gender ideology movement is already in the Philippines.​

Kung wala kang fear o kung walang fear ang mga tao dito, e bakit meron kang concern about ideology movement na nasa Pilipinas na? Huh? So anong use of stating facts about gender ideology movement? Mag rarally din kayo katulad ng LGBT movements and feminism movements? Ganerin? Para ma prevent sila? Kaya nga let it be dahil wala na kayo magagawa, kaya nga let it be po unless mag on war kayo in the battle field, as in gera to the maximum level po.

Yung isa, disagree sila kung ano ipinapataw niyo ideology na hindi katanggap-tanggap sa kanila pagkatapos kayo naman... ayaw niyo rin ang ideology na meron sa kanila. E di same lang kayo.

Kung successful sila, accept. Kung hindi acceptable, e di magrally naman din kayo. Buo na rin kayo ng movement sakali na reverse ang norms dahil sa ideology na meron sila na hindi acceptable sa inyo.

Nakakasawa na kasi. Wala na tayo magagawa kung meron nag didisagree at meron mag aayaw.

Meron nga nagtanong, meron pa ba daw true love sa mundo.

Sagot ko. Wala. Example iyan.​

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Kung wala kang fear o kung walang fear ang mga tao dito, e bakit meron kang concern about ideology movement na nasa Pilipinas na? Huh? So anong use of stating facts about gender ideology movement? Mag rarally din kayo katulad ng LGBT movements and feminism movements? Ganerin? Para ma prevent sila? Kaya nga let it be dahil wala na kayo magagawa, kaya nga let it be po unless mag on war kayo in the battle field, as in gera to the maximum level po.

Yung isa, disagree sila kung ano ipinapataw niyo ideology na hindi katanggap-tanggap sa kanila pagkatapos kayo naman... ayaw niyo rin ang ideology na meron sa kanila. E di same lang kayo.

Kung successful sila, accept. Kung hindi acceptable, e di magrally naman din kayo. Buo na rin kayo ng movement sakali na reverse ang norms dahil sa ideology na meron sila na hindi acceptable sa inyo.

Nakakasawa na kasi. Wala na tayo magagawa kung meron nag didisagree at meron mag aayaw.

Meron nga nagtanong, meron pa ba daw true love sa mundo.

Sagot ko. Wala. Example iyan.​

Having an opinion about something does not equate of having fear of that something.

We don't need rally, kasi nga we value communication. Since democrasy tayo we should have discussion with this kind of things. We should allow discussion.

That is normal to a democratic country na we allow criticism on each side. And to carefully critical think if this said movement is beneficial on our society or not.

And sa OT mo na tanong at sagot. Merong true love for me. I have been married to my one and only gf since college.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Having an opinion about something does not equate of having fear of that something.​

Eehh... bakit ka nga concern or worried? Or sadyang dinideny lamang na aminin na there is fear within dahil ma ego lang? Never mind. Huwag mo na po sagutin.
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We don't need rally, kasi nga we value communication. Since democrasy tayo we should have discussion with this kind of things. We should allow discussion.​

So gusto mo eallow ang discussion. Sa akin nga kapag nagpapaliwanag ako ay walang discussion na nagaganap. Hahaha. Napaghahalata na wala silang ka worry-worry or sabihin natin na hindi man lang nababagabag sa issue ng kultura at society ng bansang Pilipinas. Makikita talaga kung ano ang acceptable at kung ano hindi acceptable sa mga filipino people.

Kaya sa loob-loob ko, parang hirap mahalin ang Pilipinas. Magpakatotoo na lang ako. Ayaw ko na sa Pinas. Nakipag break up na lang ako.
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That is normal to a democratic country na we allow criticism on each side. And to carefully critical think if this said movement is beneficial on our society or not.​

So gusto mo lang mang criticize sa kabilang panig. Ganun? E feeling ko, kayo na ang "victorious" po. Feel ko. Ikaw at ang tao na disagree, "panalo" na po kayo sa ideology na hinohold niyo po. Kaya, ayun, para saan ang pang criticize? Para saan pa alamin kung itong movement na ito is beneficial o hindi kung ang outcome is kayo pa rin ang mananaig or sabihin natin na successful sila, ano ang magagawa niyo lahat? Magrarant na lang kayo or ano?

Talaga lang. Hindi mababago ang pananaw at paniniwala ng mga tao po. Hanggang verbal lang tayo at mamamatay tayo sa kakaverbal pero walang mangyayari. Kung ano ang meron kasalukuyan natin panahon, hindi po mababago.
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And sa OT mo na tanong at sagot. Merong true love for me. I have been married to my one and only gf since college.​

Uh. What I meant not love about relationship or something. Ang tinutukoy ko ay love sa kapwa tao po. Sinabi ko na walang true love dahil example iyan, prevailing pa rin ang discrimination and prejudice on earth. Its like on war kayo to each other without using any violence. On war lang kayo when it comes to ideologies na not acceptable to each other kung kaya nalimutan na po how to love na po sa kapwa tao po.

Iyon ang ibig ko sabihin.​

 

[mutagenesisx]

dapat kapag elementary to highschool wag muna.

 

[Ranzoe]

dapat tlga nasa magulang ang pagtuturo

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Yan ba yung tinatawag mo na drag queens na "nagtuturo" sa classroom? You are blowing this out of proportion. One-time event lang yan and I don't see any cause of concern para sabihin children are being "targeted". Yung aklat na binabasa is titled "being you" you can look it up. You have to be homophobic to hate the message and the desire to stop this movement is to desire censorship.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Yan ba yung tinatawag mo na drag queens na "nagtuturo" sa classroom? You are blowing this out of proportion. One-time event lang yan and I don't see any cause of concern para sabihin children are being "targeted". Yung aklat na binabasa is titled "being you" you can look it up. You have to be homophobic to hate the message and the desire to stop this movement is to desire censorship.

Panong blowing out of proportion? A thing that happened once can easily happen multiple times. Why do you think children? Why this movement wants children? How about do that on mature people? Not this children that can't even tell which is fantasy or not.

You mean teach children how to be delusional also? Censorship is not the right word (as if the west don't censor anything that the right wing stands). There are things that needs to be stop since it will not benefit our society as a whole.

Again, doesn't mean that you have an opinion about something you are homophobes, kasi nga even sa lgbt+++ community will not accept this kind of movement.

dapat tlga nasa magulang ang pagtuturo

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So gusto mo lang mang criticize sa kabilang panig. Ganun? E feeling ko, kayo na ang "victorious" po. Feel ko. Ikaw at ang tao na disagree, "panalo" na po kayo sa ideology na hinohold niyo po. Kaya, ayun, para saan ang pang criticize? Para saan pa alamin kung itong movement na ito is beneficial o hindi kung ang outcome is kayo pa rin ang mananaig or sabihin natin na successful sila, ano ang magagawa niyo lahat? Magrarant na lang kayo or ano?

Talaga lang. Hindi mababago ang pananaw at paniniwala ng mga tao po. Hanggang verbal lang tayo at mamamatay tayo sa kakaverbal pero walang mangyayari. Kung ano ang meron kasalukuyan natin panahon, hindi po mababago.

It will as long as there is discussion. Merong magbabago. That's the beauty of a democratic country who values free speech.

Uh. What I meant not love about relationship or something. Ang tinutukoy ko ay love sa kapwa tao po. Sinabi ko na walang true love dahil example iyan, prevailing pa rin ang discrimination and prejudice on earth. Its like on war kayo to each other without using any violence. On war lang kayo when it comes to ideologies na not acceptable to each other kung kaya nalimutan na po how to love na po sa kapwa tao po.

Iyon ang ibig ko sabihin.

Love is not one dimensional. Love also is telling the people the truth even it hurts.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Panong blowing out of proportion? A thing that happened once can easily happen multiple times. Why do you think children? Why this movement wants children? How about do that on mature people? Not this children that can't even tell which is fantasy or not.

You mean teach children how to be delusional also? Censorship is not the right word (as if the west don't censor anything that the right wing stands). There are things that needs to be stop since it will not benefit our society as a whole.

Again, doesn't mean that you have an opinion about something you are homophobes, kasi nga even sa lgbt+++ community will not accept this kind of movement.​

So bale ito ang nakikita ko. Ang gusto mo at hindi lang ikaw na panatilihin ang gender binary sa mata ng mga bata bilang totoo at tunay. And then ang non gender binary po ay hindi na po included sapagkat hindi ito beneficial sa society ng bansang Pilipinas. And so kinakailangan ang non gender binary ay huwag ipamulat sa mga little kids. Ehhh....... parang gusto niyo lang talaga na econform sa ideology ng gender binary na iyon lamang tama sa mga little kids. Ganoon ang dating. Hindi niyo ipinamumulat sa little kids about non gender binary po. So para sa akin, maaari mag grow up ang kids to ãdül† na homophobic din siya pagdating ng panahon po.

Alam ko. In my experience. Ganyan ang pamangkin ko na lalake. 10 years old siya pero kapag nakakakita ng gays on TikTok, naiinis siya at kung ano-ano diskriminasyon ang sinasabi niya po. Natutunan niya kasi sa lola niya na sobrang religious. Ang turo sa kanya na ang mga bakla at ang mga tomboy raw ay mapupunta sa hell. Ayan ang outcome ng teaching galing sa lola niya. Kapag tinuturuan na please respect sa mga ganoon tao, meron negative reaction siya na nararamdaman towards gays.

So bale. Ayaw niyo na ituro ang ideology na meron sa kanila. Ang gusto niyo at ang iba tao na sa ideology niyo lang tangkilikin. Ah. Okay.
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It will as long as there is discussion. Merong magbabago. That's the beauty of a democratic country who values free speech.​

Ahhh. So nangangarap ka na meron mabago. Gumawa na rin kayo at ang ilan tao ng movement if ayaw niyo talaga as in, wahahaha para same lang kayo, hahaha. Pagkatapos batohan na lang kayo ng verbal speech, batohan na lang kayo ng water , guns.... or whatever. Joke. Nagbibiro lang ako. Sabi niyo kasi, gusto meron mabago. For me, okay lang ang discussion pero parang hindi effective. Mas effective talaga ang bumuo ng movement although hindi rin absolute. Katulad nila. Una, pa verbal-verbal lang sila. Nag vo-voice out lang sila and then, it is not enough and so ayun , nabuo ang movement (as long as walang war on battlefield) - minsan ang inaasahan diskusyon ay... ewan.... eh.... parang hindi naman magiging effective iyan. Dahil kung effective iyan through discussion at nangangarap na meron mabago? E di sana wala ng movement na nag-exist diba? Wala ng nagpaparade-parade at tipong extremist ang dating kung natupad ang kanila through discussion lang.
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Love is not one dimensional. Love also is telling the people the truth even it hurts.​

So iyan ang definition of love para sa iyo. Ang love sa iyo ay mali ang homosexual po at hindi mabuti ituro sa mga bata po. Dapat lamang ay ang gender binary lamang na nag eexist sa planetang earth.

Oh. Okay. Iyan ang definition of love mo.​

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Why do you think children? Why this movement wants children? How about do that on mature people? Not this children that can't even tell which is fantasy or not.

Same reason why religious groups want to teach people while they are children. This is to balance the influence of taboos we created from myths.

You mean teach children how to be delusional also? Censorship is not the right word (as if the west don't censor anything that the right wing stands). There are things that needs to be stop since it will not benefit our society as a whole.

Of course sa pananaw mo there is no benefit because in your worldview, for things to be beneficial, it has to be in accordance to YOUR belief. E paano nalang ung mga tao na hindi naniniwala sa belief mo? You have to prove first that they are morally inferior before you stop them.

Call it delusional, but it is their own delusion to live by. You have your own delusion of your choice, but it is only for you. Who are you to impose your delusion on others?

Again, doesn't mean that you have an opinion about something you are homophobes, kasi nga even sa lgbt+++ community will not accept this kind of movement.

What does that prove?
Eto, Filipinos are victims of racism. Some filipinos are racist towards their own people. Does that mean that other nation are not racist anymore? Because some filipinos agree to their racist point of view, now it is merely opinion like any other opinion?
Of course they do not accept it as how you people exaggerate it, but you are purposely discrediting where credit is due.

Love is not one dimensional. Love also is telling the people the truth even it hurts.

So is telling people that their truth is manufactured. Besides, freedom of speech is not absolute. Not in america or the philippines. If you read the laws about it, may limits yan.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Same reason why religious groups want to teach people while they are children. This is to balance the influence of taboos we created from myths.

Compared to religion specialty Christianity. We have a better world today because of that. The sciences, education, moral values, etc.. where founded by Christians to whom we gain the fruits of that.

Of course sa pananaw mo there is no benefit because in your worldview, for things to be beneficial, it has to be in accordance to YOUR belief. E paano nalang ung mga tao na hindi naniniwala sa belief mo? You have to prove first that they are morally inferior before you stop them.

Call it delusional, but it is their own delusion to live by. You have your own delusion of your choice, but it is only for you. Who are you to impose your delusion on others?

It has little to do with my belief. It's more on morals and the truth.

Again with this "WhO ArE YoU tO iMpOsE" sentence, as if your don't imposing your own including your simping with this movement.

What does that prove?
Eto, Filipinos are victims of racism. Some filipinos are racist towards their own people. Does that mean that other nation are not racist anymore? Because some filipinos agree to their racist point of view, now it is merely opinion like any other opinion?
Of course they do not accept it as how you people exaggerate it, but you are purposely discrediting where credit is due.

Nope, part of the lgbtq+++ community who hates this kind of gender ideology movement is by their on decision cause they know is good. It proves na porket I have opinion with this movement does not make me automatically homophones same goes even sa lgbtq+++ community.

So is telling people that their truth is manufactured. Besides, freedom of speech is not absolute. Not in america or the philippines. If you read the laws about it, may limits yan.

May limits nga. But the truth will remain truth kahit ano pang opinion mo.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Subjective lang po kasi ang morality. Kung kaya, sa ibang tao, iyon ang truth. According sa nabasa ko somewhere, ang moral ng tao kung saan distinction ng right and wrong po na dapat ebehave ng tao ay depende pa po kung ano ang acceptable sa nakakarami tao. So kung majority of the people ay it is right thing to do ang makipag-seks bago marriage in a church, example lang naman po, that means, iyan ang acceptable na bilang mabuting moral na acceptable sa lahat. Sakaling majority of the people ay lahat maliligo muna sa dagat bago pumasok sa bahay, iyon ang acceptable na mabuting moral for them dahil masasabi lang na right ang isang moral ng tao kapag acceptable siya ng maraming tao po.

Since we lived in a Christian society , iba ang moral and ethics talaga nito versus sa Pagan as general as a whole na iba din po ang moral and ethics na meron sa kanila and so , hindi natin masasabi na tama at mabuti ang Christian bilang kung ano ang moral na ipinagmamalaki nito kaysa Pagan and of course , hindi rin natin masasabi na ang Pagan ay tama kuno at mabuti kaysa Christian po. Alam niyo iyon na tipong nag-aangkin kung ano kultura na superior kuno and then dinidiscriminate ang other cultures... ang tawag na naaalala ko ay ethnocentrism. Naks! Nadala ko na naman ang knowledge ko noon nag-aral ako ng sociology dati.... wahahaha Sorry hehe.

...kaya if ever sasabihin na morals and the truth kaya ma ingat sila kung ano ang eaaccept na ideology o hindi para sa beneficial ng society , well , sa loob-loob ko , masyado lang po subjective ang moral na sinasabi po , kasi nga you know? Iba ang moral at ethics ng mga Christian as a whole. Christian society po kasi tayo pagkatapos patriarchal culture pa, eehhhh..... ano laban ng mga movements katulad ng LGBT+++ at ang ibang group katulad ng feminism and ang iba pang group na nag-exist po? Para silang nanghihingalo sa pakikipaglaban. Alam naman natin ang other ideologies po na against sa other group na nag-exist po, tough. Ededefend at ededefend at paaalagahan nila kung ano ang nakasanayan nito hanggang sa huling hininga.

Well , at least diba? They won't give up. They still think na meron pang hope.​

 

[plhbg1]

ayos yan, teaching should be open to all genders

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Compared to religion specialty Christianity. We have a better world today because of that. The sciences, education, moral values, etc.. where founded by Christians to whom we gain the fruits of that.

Not necessarily true. Progress in society usually happens when: A) Christianity wavers to secular morality or; B) Christianity converts people away from more fundamentalist religions. In the present, it all boils down to basic empathy, which is not beholden to any religion.

It has little to do with my belief. It's more on morals and the truth.

Again with this "WhO ArE YoU tO iMpOsE" sentence, as if your don't imposing your own including your simping with this movement.

Do not confuse open-discussion with imposing beliefs. All the lgbtq movement is about is to allow them to be treated like normal people. All you are protecting with your ideology is your ability to keep them discriminated against. Kahit mga tyrant pwede gamitin yan line of thinking mo para depensahanan ang paniniil ng iba.

Nope, part of the lgbtq+++ community who hates this kind of gender ideology movement is by their on decision cause they know is good. It proves na porket I have opinion with this movement does not make me automatically homophones same goes even sa lgbtq+++ community.

How did you know that? O yan gusto mo paniwalaan? Proof na yun? This is a known phenomenon na kung nagsurvive ang mga tao sa mistreatment and able to elevate themselves within the system, they sometimes agree with the mistreatment. But not all people have the same priviledge as them. And their opinion has nothing to do with the nature of the ideA being homophobic. Gaya ng example ko about racism, it is still racism kahit may mga victim ang nag-aagree. Why are you trearing the word homophobic like a personal attack? It is all but a description of the ideology pero you keep on trying deny that YOU are not homophobic for having the opinion, when i am not claiming that YOU are homophobic.

May limits nga. But the truth will remain truth kahit ano pang opinion mo.

Aling truth ba pinaglalaban mo? That OTHERS should behave according to your beliefs? Yung ilang mga false at fallacious assumption na hinugot mo sa intuition mo? How about the fact na ang society natin ay hindi padin pantay ang respeto ng society sa heteronormative at sa lgbtq people? That is also truth...

ayos yan, teaching should be open to all genders

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