🕯️ Traditions Being Woke 2024

[jayendecastro]

Perhaps, yung inimagine mo na pagtuturo is not the issue. Kung conversation lang na ang parent ay i-illustrate sa bata kung ano ang meaning ng gender noong time nila. This is fine if it stops there.
The real issue is what comes after that. What if the child still insists? With the view na parents=authority, this will lead to emotional abuse. Otherwise, when is the right time for the parent to stop? How does the parent know if malambot at artistic lng pla ung bata rather than their suspicion na homo?
At the end of the day, parents should also be on the learning end. Society changes, and it will, no matter what we feel about it. If we insist heteronormative ideas on children, we might be limiting their potential, because of our narrow view of the "right" way for them to behave.

Who said na ung kinagawian lang ng parents ang ituturo nea sa bata? Di lahat ng parents narrow-minded and di marunong mag adapt.. ulitin ko, parents can grow still alongside their children. Parents can learn sabay sa kanila just as they can learn from their children. Dont assume na ung parents eh ung pananaw lang nea ang itinuturo sa bata. Thats my biggest contention sa mag nagsasabi na parents should never teach their children. Sa cases na like u mentioned na majority ng Lgbtq suffers some sort of abuse sa pagkabata nila, of cors im againts that. Like i said din, parents can also be wrong just like everybody else. But that should not be a reason para sabihin na they should never teach their child.

Another critical question. Prefer ba natin ung traditional gender dahil ito ang tama? Or because it is the expedient option to turn a blind eye sa mga inequity na dulot ng heteronormative culture?

Consider the prejudice against tattooed people. Isa sa mga excuse nung mga prejudice ay dahil iniimpluwensyahan nila ang mga bata. Pero that community is merely asking to be left alone. We now understand this. How is this different to the gender conversation?

Traditional man or mainstream, whatever man ang preference natin as a parent eh we can have that conversation with our child. And importante jan eh we dont make them feel like they are a disappointment or less of a person just because they dont meet or agree sa preference natin.

About tattooed people who are being judge for merely having inks on their bodies, im also againts that. But the thing is, having tattoos does not change their identity. Its just a part of it. Tattooing oneself with leopard prints does not make that person a leopard no matter how strong he feels about it and no matter how much he change himself. Same goes sa gender, its part of that person’s identity. And thats it.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

But that should not be a reason para sabihin na they should never teach their child.

Inoover-generalize mo yata kasi ung "teaching a child" within usapin ng gender. Sure obligasyon tlga ng magulang turuan ang bata. Pero iba sa usapan ng gendered behaviors regarding what people should and shouldn't do. There is no way you can tell me na hindi tradition ang basis niyan.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

madali yumaman dito sa pinas actually basta wala kang binubuhay na tatlong pamilya need mo lang maka graduate literal kung solo mo sahod mo yun ang meron ang mayaman resources. dito kase sa pinas kaya di yumayaman ang mga anak ng iba kahit nakapag tapos dahil sayo na lahat ng bills pinag aaral mo pa kapatid mo pati pinsan mo pinag aaral mo din​

Hindi sa indibidwal po. Yung sistema po ng lipunan as a whole. Remember po. Nasa "social system" po as a whole.
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The thing is HE dont care even HE was addressed thet way,
Ikaw hindi nakakaintindi
Simplehan lang kasi, e ang haba mo pa mag reply kaya lumalayo understanding mo​

Mas malala kung maikli! Ang akala mo na ganun kadali yun? Mahirap na nga econvey ang message ng maikli para maintindihan. Ito na nga. Mahaba, detalye, pinu-pino para maintindihan pagkatapos hindi pa maintindihan. E ano pa kaya ang simple! Ang hirap kaya magpaintindi sa tao para maintindihan ang message. Ano pa kaya ang simple?

Ang akin kung baguhin lang ang treatment or how they treat to LGBT po at etrato ito na parte ng norms na kung ano meron sa kanila, ganun din sila, malamang ang takbo ng lipunan, ayos na po.​

 

[bugz331]

Hindi sa indibidwal po. Yung sistema po ng lipunan as a whole. Remember po. Nasa "social system" po as a whole.

sa totoo lang madali mo kikitain ung 50k dito sa pinas basta alam mo kung san and kung pasok ka sa requirements nila nasa tao parin gawa. tulad netong anak ng umuupa samin senior high na nga lang tatapusin di pa ginawa at nag trabaho at yung nag trabaho naisipan pa mag anak so pano na pwedeng okay sila ngayon sa mga susunod na taon hindi na cause of lousy decision making. pwede din maging maganda ang trato ng tadhana sa kanila pero chances are mas malaki ang chances of failure

 

[jayendecastro]

Inoover-generalize mo yata kasi ung "teaching a child" within usapin ng gender. Sure obligasyon tlga ng magulang turuan ang bata. Pero iba sa usapan ng gendered behaviors regarding what people should and shouldn't do. There is no way you can tell me na hindi tradition ang basis niyan.

No, im totally not. What im saying is kasama din sa teaching natin bilang parents ang about gender. What we teach our kids about everything eh not merely based on traditions. We look din sa personal upbringing natin, how society is now, other people they interact with, ideas na nakakarating sa kanila and more importantly how they feel and understand themselves as a person…we teach them based on those stuff, including what we teach them about gender. Jan nila madedevelop kung ano sila or kung magiging ano sila. telling them what is expected of them including their gender is different from compelling them to meet those expectations.

I dunno how old you are, pero lumaki ako na being gay, lesbian, bi, trans, queer is fine. Walang you are the gender u identify with, walang confusion/clarification sa pronouns…. May prejudice ba noon? Yes.. until now meron… and im all for getting rid sa mga prejudices na yon. Pero wag nmn isupalpal sa lahat na anyone can just be a man or woman..and that a child cannot learn from their own parents what those things are especially kung bata pa sila. Lahat tayo may crisis sa pagkatao natin at one point…kahit matatanda na tayo minsan meron pa din…

I have two teenagers, and believe me when I tell you..mas madame ang naituturo sa kanila ng social media and internet kesa mga naituturo ng parents. Ibang landscape ng learning ang nakukuha nila today. Even reading some of their convo mababasa mo na minsan they say bi sila.. minsan gender fluid and all that. Inevitable ang exposure nila sa ganan and sometimes pa nga un ang mas compelling sa kanila. Di masama kung they can get some input from their own parents about those things namn that they are already exposed to.

There is also no way u can tell me na hindi tradition ang basis mo for calling ur son na lalake… for giving him a boy’s name.. for putting him into boy’s clothes..buying him boy’s toys… u made those choices for him. Unless you chose gender-neutral stuff for all those things…. As parents we make decisions for our kids, until such time na they can make their own choices. And even then, we can question the choices they make or will make. And by questioning, i mean having a conversation about it and not merely objecting to what they want or what they are.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

sa totoo lang madali mo kikitain ung 50k dito sa pinas basta alam mo kung san and kung pasok ka sa requirements nila nasa tao parin gawa. tulad netong anak ng umuupa samin senior high na nga lang tatapusin di pa ginawa at nag trabaho at yung nag trabaho naisipan pa mag anak so pano na pwedeng okay sila ngayon sa mga susunod na taon hindi na cause of lousy decision making. pwede din maging maganda ang trato ng tadhana sa kanila pero chances are mas malaki ang chances of failure​

Analogy lang po kase ang mayaman at mahirap na itinutukoy ko kung saan gusto din na humingi ng rights from mahihirap, na kung ano ang lifestyle ng mayaman, ganun din ang mahirap. Kung baga na gusto ng mahirap na maging parte ng lifestyle ng mayayaman which is disagree ang karamihan na mayayaman na tao po. Nasa mataas na pwesto sa lipunan ang mayaman po kasi while ang mahirap nasa mababa antas ng lipunan po.

Analogy po siya. But yung mataas na antas ng lipunan, totoo siya. Mayaman ang nakapwesto. Ang mahirap ay nasa mababang antas ng lipunan dahil nga hierarchical po kase tayo. Kapag sinasabi kase na hierarchical, organize ang social rank from importance or power hanggang sa pinakamababa na least important. Kung baga ang power at important, nasa tuktok o nasa mataas na antas ng lipunan.

Ang LGBT po, ganyan din po kase. Like I said, they think na parte sila ng norms and/or they want to be part of norms in the society po. Gusto po nila kasama sila sa kung ano ang normal na ginagawa at binibehave sa heterosexual po. Mapabilang ba sapagkat nasa subculture lang po kase sila, dahil nga ang important na sinasabi o ang sinasabi na normal ika nga ay ang heterosexual po. Ganyan din ang ipinapaliwanag ko po na bakit ipinaglalaban po ng LGBT ang same opportunities po.

Sana maintindihan ang effort ko sa pag eexplain ko. Yun ang rights. Rights na magkaroon ng same opportunities po. Ang same opportunities po kase mostly sa heterosexual society po. Iyon talaga.

Diba ang heteronormative society means the accepted normal sexual preference are men and women only. Important ika nga. Normal ika nga. So kapag hindi nagconform sa accepted sexual preference ng men and women, hindi na sila consider normal o sabi ng ibang tao na ayaw na ayaw talaga, ang normal na ginawa is lalake at babae lang. Abnormal daw ang keyso iniiba-iba ang biological feature ng tao o hindi normal ang non binary gender po. Or sabihin natin na least important ika nga.

So ang question for me is papaano mabibigyan ng value o importance ang LGBT po pagdating sa same opportunities na inaasam din po nila? Iyan ang question. E sabi ko nga, halata naman for me, the way I see it na hindi valueble o not important ika nga ang mga tao na hindi nagcoconform sa gender binary po e. So all in all, lumalabas na prejudice at discrimination nga sa LGBT po.

Iyon.​

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

And importante jan eh we dont make them feel like they are a disappointment or less of a person just because they dont meet or agree sa preference natin.

Actually that is an excellent approach. Yan din nmn tlga recommended. It depends nlng tlga kung kelan titigil ang magulang kung tlgang confirmed na homo tlga ung bata. Kasi kung constant padin ang conversation jan, no matter how calm, will start making the subject being less of a person at some point diba.

No, im totally not. What im saying is kasama din sa teaching natin bilang parents ang about gender. What we teach our kids about everything eh not merely based on traditions. We look din sa personal upbringing natin, how society is now, other people they interact with, ideas na nakakarating sa kanila and more importantly how they feel and understand themselves as a person…we teach them based on those stuff, including what we teach them about gender. Jan nila madedevelop kung ano sila or kung magiging ano sila. telling them what is expected of them including their gender is different from compelling them to meet those expectations.

I dunno how old you are, pero lumaki ako na being gay, lesbian, bi, trans, queer is fine. Walang you are the gender u identify with, walang confusion/clarification sa pronouns…. May prejudice ba noon? Yes.. until now meron… and im all for getting rid sa mga prejudices na yon. Pero wag nmn isupalpal sa lahat na anyone can just be a man or woman..and that a child cannot learn from their own parents what those things are especially kung bata pa sila. Lahat tayo may crisis sa pagkatao natin at one point…kahit matatanda na tayo minsan meron pa din…

I have two teenagers, and believe me when I tell you..mas madame ang naituturo sa kanila ng social media and internet kesa mga naituturo ng parents. Ibang landscape ng learning ang nakukuha nila today. Even reading some of their convo mababasa mo na minsan they say bi sila.. minsan gender fluid and all that. Inevitable ang exposure nila sa ganan and sometimes pa nga un ang mas compelling sa kanila. Di masama kung they can get some input from their own parents about those things namn that they are already exposed to.

There is also no way u can tell me na hindi tradition ang basis mo for calling ur son na lalake… for giving him a boy’s name.. for putting him into boy’s clothes..buying him boy’s toys… u made those choices for him. Unless you chose gender-neutral stuff for all those things…. As parents we make decisions for our kids, until such time na they can make their own choices. And even then, we can question the choices they make or will make. And by questioning, i mean having a conversation about it and not merely objecting to what they want or what they are.

Okay, I see why you have this position. And it is valid. Mukang and tunay na problema sayo is totally around the language. And I agree it is bordering to unnecessary kung sa Pinas.

Pero diba you cannot deny the society wide issue na ang average best condition para sa lgbtq is being tolerated by society. Especially if nasa US kung saan matunog ang movement na ito. US is a country people na religion lng tlga ang basis nila sa discrimination. Yet, they created talking points as if it was backed up by science. Mostly mga lalake na nagsusubscribe sa machismo.

We all know magkaiba ang male at female. But none of those difference tell us how each should behave. Perhaps, changing the language is the desperate attempt to attack the root of all toxic social constructs na nilalabanan ng lgbtq at feminism, pati mga kalalakihan na nadedepress dahil kabawasan sa pagkalalake nila ang lack of success, lack of stoicism, and apathy which is the kind of man championed by people like Andrew Tate and many conservative pundits.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

We all know magkaiba ang male at female. But none of those difference tell us how each should behave. Perhaps, changing the language is the desperate attempt to attack the root of all toxic social constructs na nilalabanan ng lgbtq at feminism, pati mga kalalakihan na nadedepress dahil kabawasan sa pagkalalake nila ang lack of success, lack of stoicism, and apathy which is the kind of man championed by people like Andrew Tate and many conservative pundits.

But in most cases those differences tell us how each should behave in a certain ways. In fact it reflects even in the animal world on how most of the animal male behaves for survival. There are anomalies but does not negate the fact of physical realities.

Why do you think that frontlines in war are men? Do the feminism wants equality on that field? Why do you think the brick and mortar field are men? Do you want to equalized that also?

Andrew Tate is a far right wing, do the represent what the conservative believes.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Sabi nga ni Emma Watson, isang feminist - "If we stop defining each other by what we are not and start defining ourselves by what we are—we can all be freer" - so it means if a man do not want to be in a field dahil wala siya hilig, wala siya hilig sa baril or whatever.... pwede siya hindi sumama sa military if iyon ang gusto niya. Magiging free siya dahil hindi naman siya iyon. Hindi kailangan na ipagpilitan as a man, kailangan maging tough siya, sumabak sa war dahil to be in war is sinasabi na what is to be a man daw.

If a woman wants to be in frontline dahil feel niya and based on personality ay assertive at magaling siya sa pag asintado sa enemy then, pwede din siya ilagay mismo sa frontline ng war, dahil gusto niya. Iyon ang hilig niya. No need na pigilan siya dahil babae kase siya at siyempre, nakakaawa raw siya tingnan dahil people perceived woman as fragile and weak or whatever....... magiging free ang babae mismo dahil kung ano at kung sino siya, siya iyon.

It depends sa strength, ability and mentality na meron sa lalake at babae po dahil ika nga, hindi siya fix na kung ano lang dinidefine ng lalake at babae, diyan lang sila.

Iyan ang feminism. Gender equality and equal opportunities po.

Ang mga ayaw ng feminism, sila ang mga tao na they still believe na ang lalake at babae ay magkaiba at dahil magkaiba, naka-define lang sa kanila kung ano lang ang pagiging lalake at kung ano lang ang pagiging babae.

Iyon.

So sa mga tao na ayaw ng feminism, sila ang nagsasabi na ang lalake ay dapat nasa frontline ng war dahil lalake sila. Malakas kase sila at well, iyon ang pagkakadefine sa kanila as a man. So kung gay ang tao, kahit ayaw, katulad na napanood ko on movie, siyempre, lalake siya, mapipilitan talaga siya isabak sa war kahit ayaw niya. Halimbawa, pinasok siya ng tatay niya in military. Ganun.

Ewan ko lang kung naintindihan nila ang isinulat ko.
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[Gildarts Tale]

If a woman wants to be in frontline dahil feel niya and based on personality ay assertive at magaling siya sa pag asintado sa enemy then, pwede din siya ilagay mismo sa frontline ng war, dahil gusto niya. Iyon ang hilig niya. No need na pigilan siya dahil babae kase siya at siyempre, nakakaawa raw siya tingnan dahil people perceived woman as fragile and weak or whatever....... magiging free ang babae mismo dahil kung ano at kung sino siya, siya iyon.

It depends sa strength, ability and mentality na meron sa lalake at babae po dahil ika nga, hindi siya fix na kung ano lang dinidefine ng lalake at babae, diyan lang sila.

If so called feminist want equality for all. Then why few women volunteer on the frontlines and the brick and mortar industries even until now?

Both strength and speed at rationality magkaiba ang men and women, and thats a fact kahit ano pang sabihin ng mga modern feminist.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

If so called feminist want equality for all. Then why few women volunteer on the frontlines and the brick and mortar industries even until now?​

Kaya nga ito ang sabi, "If we stop defining each other by what we are not and start defining ourselves by what we are—we can all be freer" and so... wala lang. Why do you need to ask a question na ganyan. Iyan ang ibig sabihin ng equality. It is their choice. Hindi naman lahat ng babae. At least meron pa rin nag vo-voleenter po.
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Both strength and speed at rationality magkaiba ang men and women, and thats a fact kahit ano pang sabihin ng mga modern feminist.​

So bale ang gusto mo na tipong esuppress kung ano at kung sino sila at kung ano ang gusto at hilig nila dahil hindi siya align sa mismong behavior at biological na gender na meron sila? Ganun ang gusto mo? So bale naniniwala ka rin na men are the strong gender and women are weak gender po, mga ganun? So bale naniniwala ka rin na lahat nakadefine kung ano talaga ang pagiging lalake at kung ano talaga ang pagiging babae. So meaning ayaw mo na lumampas ang kahit sino man gender na nakadefine lamang na behavior sa kanila. Anyway, ano nga ba talaga ang gusto mo sa lalake at babae? Maging equal ba or sadyang stay lang sila kung ano lamang inatasan na gender role sa kanila based on biological po?​

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Kaya nga ito ang sabi, "If we stop defining each other by what we are not and start defining ourselves by what we are—we can all be freer" and so... wala lang. Why do you need to ask a question ng ganyan. Iyan ang ibig sabihin ng equality. It is their choice. Hindi naman lahat. At least meron pa rin nag vovoleenter po.

You never understood what the feminist wants on equality. They want equally in numbers.

So bale ang gusto mo na tipong esuppress kung ano at kung sino sila dahil hindi siya align sa mismong behavior at biological na gender na meron sila? Ganun ang gusto mo?

Panong e suppress? Walang nagsasabi na e suppress. Kasi ang biology nila mismo or ang physical reality ang nag sasabi na men and women are miles aways with comes to strength and speed kaya nga we have different sports for men and women.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

You never understood what the feminist wants on equality. They want equally in numbers.​

Meron ka na ba nakausap na feminist? And iyon ang sinabi nila? Meron feminist ata sa school or whatever? Hindi ko alam kung saan. Nasubukan mo ba pag-aralan or intindihan ang movement or sadyang nakapulot ka lang ng information sa iba na hindi genuine?
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Panong e suppress? Walang nagsasabi na e suppress. Kasi ang biology nila mismo or ang physical reality ang nag sasabi na men and women are miles aways with comes to strength and speed kaya nga we have different sports for men and women.​

Suppress, halimbawa. Based on your comment. Ako. Hindi na lang ako. Halimbawa. Anak na babae. Gusto niya mag boxing. Iyon ang gusto niya. Hilig niya. Or gusto niya gumamit ng baril or sumabak sa military. Bale sabi mo nga, biology nila mismo or ang physical reality ang nagsasabi na men and women ay magkaiba and dahil ganyan ang ideal na kung ano ang gender para sa iyo, well, esusuppress mo siya na hindi siya maging dapat ganun or papigilan siya sa hilig nito dahil hindi ito align sa biological na meron ito as a girl. Iyon bale, esusupress mo siya. Iyon ang tinatanong ko, kung pipigilan mo ba? Kung baga, esusuppress mo siya sa hilig niya and ang gagawin, ituturo mo dapat kung ano ang dapat para sa babae? Tinatanong ko, kung iyon ang gusto mo?

Kasi nga diba? Sabi mo nga naniniwala ka na men and women are different when it comes to biology or in physical reality po? Okay lang naman na sagot mo ay "oo". Hindi naman masama. Gusto ko lang malaman. Hindi rin ito debate.

Nagtatanong lang po.​

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Meron ka na ba nakausap na feminist? And iyon ang sinabi nila? Meron feminist ata sa school or whatever? Hindi ko alam kung saan. Nasubukan mo ba pag-aralan or intindihan ang movement or sadyang nakapulot ka lang ng information sa iba na hindi genuine?

Equality nga eh. I've seen that on the feminist side. They want equality in numbers, opportunity and outcome.

Suppress, halimbawa. Based on your comment. Ako. Hindi na lang ako. Halimbawa. Anak na babae. Gusto niya mag boxing. Iyon ang gusto niya. Hilig niya. Or gusto niya gumamit ng baril or sumabak sa military. Bale sabi mo nga, biology nila mismo or ang physical reality ang nagsasabi na men and women ay magkaiba and dahil ganyan ang ideal na kung ano ang gender para sa iyo, well, esusuppress mo siya na hindi siya maging dapat ganun or papigilan siya sa hilig nito dahil hindi ito align sa biological na meron ito as a girl. Iyon bale, esusupress mo siya. Iyon ang tinatanong ko, kung pipigilan mo ba? Kung baga, esusuppress mo siya sa hilig niya and ang gagawin, ituturo mo dapat kung ano ang dapat para sa babae? Tinatanong ko, kung iyon ang gusto mo?

Kasi nga diba? Sabi mo nga naniniwala ka na men and women are different when it comes to biology or in physical reality po? Okay lang naman na sagot mo ay "oo". Hindi naman masama. Gusto ko lang malaman. Hindi rin ito debate.

Nagtatanong lang po.

That's not my point. Meron naman womens boxing at military personnel woman, but most of them are not frontlines. But they are minorities. Most are men on frontlines because they are gifted with their biology framework.

What I am saying if the feminist wanted of true equality according to them standard. Then they should advocate to woman to volunteer more to frontlines and the labor industries. But it's not happening with this modern feminist.

We have limitation even in our physical reality. And that is a reason why there are roles that are most suited to men and women. But when it comes to more physical demanding job. Men are more suited to that.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Equality nga eh. I've seen that on the feminist side. They want equality in numbers, opportunity and outcome.​

Okay? Na research mo ang kabuuan ng feminism movement?
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That's not my point. Meron naman womens boxing at military personnel woman, but most of them are not frontlines. But they are minorities. Most are men on frontlines because they are gifted with their biology framework.

What I am saying if the feminist wanted of true equality according to them standard. Then they should advocate to woman to volunteer more to frontlines and the labor industries. But it's not happening with this modern feminist.​

I have a feeling na "misunderstood" mo ang feminism movement. Na "misunderstood" mo dahil lack of knowledge ka sa movement ng feminism or sadyang choice mo na ayaw intindihin ang movement nila dahil nakatutok ka pa rin sa concept na men and women are different based on biological and their roles.
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We have limitation even in our physical reality. And that is a reason why there are roles that are most suited to men and women. But when it comes to more physical demanding job. Men are more suited to that.​

...so ang sagot mo sa tinanong ko sa iyo ay "yes". Tinatanong kita kanina. Sabay sabi mo, "that's not the point" , e iyon na nga ang point. So "yes" ang sagot mo kapag meron kang anak na babae na gusto niya magboxing or gusto niya sumabak sa military or sabihin natin na gusto niya maging wrestler, passion niya at hilig niya. Yes ang sagot mo na pipigilan mo siya at ituturo mo sa anak na babae kung ano ang suited roles para sa kanya as a girl.

Okay na po. Naiintindihan na po kita. "Yes" ang sagot mo. Okay. No need to explain. Iyon ang gusto mo.​

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Why do you think that frontlines in war are men? Do the feminism wants equality on that field? Why do you think the brick and mortar field are men? Do you want to equalized that also?

All that proves is man are physically stronger, but we are in a world where war is not a norm and technology equilizes the genders. Does biological differences still mean women should be treated less? Of course my biological difference, but the problem is that men in general refuses to assume the traditional women roles due to various reasons including homophobia.. despite their difference to women is irrelevant. which is why women are not yet enjoying the same benefits as men does. Women are only seen equal on the surface.

Katulad sa S. Korea. Women cannot excel in their careers if they have a family, because the man does not want to yeild their "pagkalalake" which is frankly a product of social construct. But conservatives will frame by explaining this is because men are better suited for working. And people like you will refer again to the biological differences which irrelevant in this scenario.

It still stands, nothing about the biological difference dictates what people should do. Everthing we prescribe in society is merely a self perpetuating social construct.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

All that proves is man are physically stronger, but we are in a world where war is not a norm and technology equilizes the genders. Does biological differences still mean women should be treated less? Of course my biological difference, but the problem is that men in general refuses to assume the traditional women roles due to various reasons including homophobia.. despite their difference to women is irrelevant. which is why women are not yet enjoying the same benefits as men does. Women are only seen equal on the surface.

Sinong nag sabi na women should be treated less? Men and women have different roles that doesn't mean that one is lesser value than the other. Homophobia has nothing to do with it. Men generally wants to provide for their family.

No we are at continues war, even as we speak, di nga lang lahat. My point still stands, kasi most frontlines are police, rescues, marines, soldiers, fire department, the brick and mortars field (laborers). If the feminist really wanted equality then they should send more women on that field. But they don't they want the position na nasa office lang, in politics, in companies, CEO and so on. (which is I don't have a problem with it.) And I am for equal opportunities.

In reality, women are more excelling in STEM fields, more than men. Which is bravo for that. You see there are roles in society that are more fit with women and men and its because of the limitation of our physical biology. to that we should compliment with each other.

Generally speaking, women are more compassionate or carrying than men, so being a housewives and taking care of the child are much suited with them. I am not saying that all women should embrace the housewives role only, but feminist should think housewives are undervalued, since it's one of the hardest thing to do.

And again, women can work to and have their career even meron na silang family. Kasi sa panahon ngayon it is very wise to do so. In reality, maapektohan talaga yung career nila if meron na silang famiyl kasi may responsibilidad na. Kaya nga mga advice ko sa younger generation is to reach your dream as soon as possible kasi nga iba na pag may family na. Even sa mga lalaki, those realties are also true.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Men and women have different roles that doesn't mean that one is lesser value than the other.

How do you assign these roles? Nothing in biology determines that? And why would it be wrong for a man or a woman to not want to perform these roles?

You see there are roles in society that are more fit with women and men and its because of the limitation of our physical biology. to that we should compliment with each other.

I still don't see why there is supposed to be a distinction. People in general compliment each other. That is what social creatures do. This is regardless of every traits like color, height, gender etc. It is this distinction that develops in inequality kasi e. Unless you consider reproduction in every activity you do, there is no reason for the distinction. In short, gender only matters in reproduction, vs your view where it the roles permiates every aspect of society.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

How do you assign these roles? Nothing in biology determines that? And why would it be wrong for a man or a woman to not want to perform these roles?

Binasa moba yung buong reply ko sayo?

It does kasi nga men are more stronger with dictates them to do dangerous jobs or career. Most men would want that. Women are compassionate/carrying that is why they are more women in STEM fields, nurses and so on. I am saying in a major scale. Again, each can choose otherwise.

I still don't see why there is supposed to be a distinction. People in general compliment each other. That is what social creatures do. This is regardless of every traits like color, height, gender etc. It is this distinction that develops in inequality kasi e.

We should have distinction with our strength and weakness as man and woman, in order for us to more productive with our roles. There are fields on careers that height have more advantage though, but colors should not be.

For example sa sports, there are sports that women and man should not compete because of obvious reasons. Weight also have more impact on more competitive sports. Serena Williams one of the top women tennis player, compete against to a rank 203rd male tennis player and lose considerably.

That is why distinction should be define.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

It does kasi nga men are more stronger with dictates them to do dangerous jobs or career. Most men would want that. Women are compassionate/carrying that is why they are more women in STEM fields, nurses and so on. I am saying in a major scale. Again, each can choose otherwise.

Because men are stronger as a whole, it does not mean it is wrong for them to be compassionate and soft. And because women are generally compassionate, it doesn't mean it will be wrong for them to refuse these roles. Sabi mo nga they can choose otherwise. So what is the issue then with gender identification? What is so foul when, let's say, a *******t person identifying as a man? Where exactly is the point that you feel they are asking for too much?