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[homer_simpson]

Alam nyo ba saan galing ang gulo?nagsimula yan noong umalis ang isang nilalang sa dapat nyang kalagyan.bawat nilikha may dahilan ang kanyang pagiral.kung nagbabasa kayo ng biblia noong likhain ng Dios ang lahat sabi nya "narito napakabuti" ngayon saan galing ying junk na binabanggit nyo...galing yon sa isang nilikha na umalis sa dapat nyang kalagyan naghangad na makipantay sa lumikha sa kanya.yong junk galing sa pusong mapagmataas,sa puso ni satanas.tandaan nyo po noong likhain ang lahat "NAPAKABUTI"in superlative degree kaya kung ganito ang mundo wag po natin isisi sa Dios patunay lang na hindi tayo ginawang robot malaya tayong gawin kung ano ang maibigan natin...sinabi na nga BAWAL PUMATAY.ano ang ginagawa di ba nakikita nyo may PUMAPATAY?ang may karapatan lang kumitil ng buhay ay pinanggalingan ng buhay.may gulo talaga pag ang kaisipan natin kagaya noong nilikha na nagmataas sa lumikha.

Hohumm, eto na naman ang mga kathang-isip na kahalintulad sa mga kwentong nababasa ko sa komiks nung bata pa ko. Do you know what makes a movie interesting? It is the interplay of protagonist and antagonist that makes us want to watch a movie.

Let's say we were created imperfect, which we are. Umpisa palang, alam na ng god mo na imperfect creation ang tao. As such, man is bound to err. Now, because he is imperfect and is bound to commit error, he is now being punished for such imperfection which the god knows in advance. Don't you think that is cheating?

What free choice/will are you talking about? Your god being all-knowing (omnipotent, omniscient) already knows what's gonna happen or the actions that you are going to make. From your perspective and your consciousness being limited, you feel like you are living in the present time. Your god and its consciousness being millions times higher than you, however knows things in advance. While you were told that you have this and that free will and free choice. Abiding as you, you are hoping the someday you are going to sit beside him. Behind the scenes, however he already knows the outcome. That, to me sounds cheating.

 

[ran100]

ang sabi dun good and evil not right and wrong

so we know what is good and what is evil but don't know what is right and wrong unless christ is in us and we are in him unless the holy spirit is guiding us

nasa 1st page bakit nasabi ko ang tama at mali intead good and evil, nag reply lang ako sa comment ni t.s..lol

 

[Thea18]

Hohumm, eto na naman ang mga kathang-isip na kahalintulad sa mga kwentong nababasa ko sa komiks nung bata pa ko. Do you know what makes a môviê interesting? It is the interplay of protagonist and antagonist that makes us want to watch a môviê.

Let's say we were created imperfect, which we are. Umpisa palang, alam na ng god mo na imperfect creation ang tao. As such, man is bound to err. Now, because he is imperfect and is bound to commit error, he is now being punished for such imperfection which the god knows in advance. Don't you think that is cheating?

What free choice/will are you talking about? Your god being all-knowing (omnipotent, omniscient) already knows what's gonna happen or the actions that you are going to make. From your perspective and your consciousness being limited, you feel like you are living in the present time. Your god and its consciousness being millions times higher than you, however knows things in advance. While you were told that you have this and that free will and free choice. Abiding as you, you are hoping the someday you are going to sit beside him. Behind the scenes, however he already knows the outcome. That, to me sounds cheating.

Ito nanaman tayo boss,galawang athiest nanaman.sorry bro.mas gusto ko na may faith ako at ito ang choice ko.kung yan ang choice mo so be it.mamuhay ka ng naaayon sa gusto mo gawin mo anoman ang maibigan mo ganon lang po yan ka semple.ewan ko kung hindi freewill yan para sayo.sabagay...may halaga ba?

 

[low-key]

nasa 1st page bakit nasabi ko ang tama at mali intead good and evil, nag reply lang ako sa comment ni t.s..lol

nag reply lang din ako sa comment mo lol without knowing anything else

 

[CutedoC]

Homer. You keep on arguing about the genocide thing. But did you forget that the son of God came to flesh ,a sinless man who died for our sins? How about A God who will see his son die for this sinfull world? Do you think thats fair? How about a God who can make another world but chose to save this fallen world? How about the God of Noah who prached for 100 years before the flood and only his family listened? And after doing that what did he say? It is the last time he will do the mass judgement cleansing he have done in this Eatth. The next one will be on the day of judgement.
God doesnt force us like puppets. There will be another generation after us who can follow him and love him completely.

Imagine the story of Joseph the dreamer, betrayed by his brothers sold into slavery. Was in prison. But he remained obedient tp the Lord and trust his will. After that he gained favored from God and became the right hand of pharoah

Everything happens to this Earth for a reason and it will be revealed in time. Its not all about our selves.if you love this world you cannot inherit eternal life.everything in this world is about how merciful and loving our God. Im sure Homer you believe there is a God unless you believe that you came from the descendants of the monkeys. Darwins theory

 

[JackFrost10]

Homer. You keep on arguing about the genocide thing. But did you forget that the son of God came to flesh ,a sinless man who died for our sins? How about A God who will see his son die for this sinfull world? Do you think thats fair? How about a God who can make another world but chose to save this fallen world? How about the God of Noah who prached for 100 years before the flood and only his family listened? And after doing that what did he say? It is the last time he will do the mass judgement cleansing he have done in this Eatth. The next one will be on the day of judgement.
God doesnt force us like puppets. There will be another generation after us who can follow him and love him completely.

Imagine the story of Joseph the dreamer, betrayed by his brothers sold into slavery. Was in prison. But he remained obedient tp the Lord and trust his will. After that he gained favored from God and became the right hand of pharoah

Everything happens to this Earth for a reason and it will be revealed in time. Its not all about our selves.if you love this world you cannot inherit eternal life.everything in this world is about how merciful and loving our God. Im sure Homer you believe there is a God unless you believe that you came from the descendants of the monkeys. Darwins theory

with all due respect sir, you cant compare a story from a theory, Darwins theory is observable in the micro level, your story is just a story you cant observe or calculate it.

I dont really care about your belief if you keep it to yourself, what I care about is when you compare science to it as if they are on the same ground.

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

guys alam nyo ba dati na medicinal practice dati ang cannibalism?

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maraming nag sasabi maraming benefit ang pag kain ng tao pero, marami din nag sasabi na may side effects ito

pero kung rational akong tao kung macucure ang cancer o anong major deceases sa mundo sa pag kain ng tao gagawin ko (kung wala akong takot sa diyos)

so in a sense kung maraming tao na rational and by science only mag isip dapat uso na ung bentahan ng mga tao sa market kagaya ng mga fetus sa jar sa china.

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A well-known case of mortuary cannibalism is that of the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. tribe in You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., which resulted in the spread of the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. disease You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. Although the Fore's mortuary cannibalism was well documented, the practice had ceased before the cause of the disease was recognized. However, some scholars argue that although post-mortem dismemberment was the practice during funeral rites, cannibalism was not. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. theorizes that it happened during a famine period coincident with the arrival of Europeans and was rationalized as a religious rite.

In 2003, a publication in You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. received a large amount of press attention when it suggested that early humans may have practiced extensive cannibalism.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. According to this research, genetic markers commonly found in modern humans worldwide suggest that today many people carry a gene that evolved as protection against the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. that can be spread by consuming human brain tissue.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. A 2006 reanalysis of the data questioned this hypothesis,You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. because it claimed to have found a data collection bias, which led to an erroneous conclusion.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. This claimed bias came from incidents of cannibalism used in the analysis not being due to local cultures, but having been carried out by explorers, stranded seafarers or escaped convicts.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. The original authors published a subsequent paper in 2008 defending their conclusions.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

wag ka lang kumain ng mga kamamatay lang,bangkay at may sakit na tao mas magiging healthy ka pag puro masisigla na at bata ung kakainin mo.

may tawag sa ganung mundo, a world run only by scientism.

sci·en·tism
/ˈsīənˌtizəm/
noun
RARE

1. thought or E×ρréššion regarded as characteristic of scientists.
2. excessive belief in the power of scientific knowledge and techniques

Immanuel Kant

An end-in-itself. The word "end" in this phrase has the same meaning as in the phrase "means to an end". The philosopher Immanuel Kant said that rational human beings should be treated as an end in themselves and not as a means to something else.

kung puro scientism na lang, ang tao parang bagay na lang na pwede babuyin at gawin kahit ano.

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panoorin nyo rin to kung may bukas kayong isip sa anime.

 

[homer_simpson]

Homer. You keep on arguing about the genocide thing. But did you forget that the son of God came to flesh ,a sinless man who died for our sins? How about A God who will see his son die for this sinfull world? Do you think thats fair? How about a God who can make another world but chose to save this fallen world? How about the God of Noah who prached for 100 years before the flood and only his family listened? And after doing that what did he say? It is the last time he will do the mass judgement cleansing he have done in this Eatth. The next one will be on the day of judgement.
God doesnt force us like puppets. There will be another generation after us who can follow him and love him completely.

Imagine the story of Joseph the dreamer, betrayed by his brothers sold into slavery. Was in prison. But he remained obedient tp the Lord and trust his will. After that he gained favored from God and became the right hand of pharoah

Everything happens to this Earth for a reason and it will be revealed in time. Its not all about our selves.if you love this world you cannot inherit eternal life.everything in this world is about how merciful and loving our God. Im sure Homer you believe there is a God unless you believe that you came from the descendants of the monkeys. Darwins theory

Homer. You keep on arguing about the genocide thing. But did you forget that the son of God came to flesh ,a sinless man who died for our sins? How about A God who will see his son die for this sinfull world? Do you think thats fair? How about a God who can make another world but chose to save this fallen world? How about the God of Noah who prached for 100 years before the flood and only his family listened? And after doing that what did he say? It is the last time he will do the mass judgement cleansing he have done in this Eatth. The next one will be on the day of judgement.
God doesnt force us like puppets. There will be another generation after us who can follow him and love him completely.

Imagine the story of Joseph the dreamer, betrayed by his brothers sold into slavery. Was in prison. But he remained obedient tp the Lord and trust his will. After that he gained favored from God and became the right hand of pharoah

Everything happens to this Earth for a reason and it will be revealed in time. Its not all about our selves.if you love this world you cannot inherit eternal life.everything in this world is about how merciful and loving our God. Im sure Homer you believe there is a God unless you believe that you came from the descendants of the monkeys. Darwins theory

Halos di ko maunawaan pinagsasabi nito. Genocide, ah that is something that can be ignored since it was the god who committed it. Tama ba?

Puro fantasy yang laman ng post mo na meron namatay for my sins, na may nag-preach for 100 years na may joseph, who?

Teka, from whom the humanity will be saved from? Isn't it from the god himself. So sya ang savior at hell operator at the same time?

Sa dami ng religious books, what makes your bible is THE ONE? Me, I do not pretend that I know which is which simply because I acknowledge the limitation of human understanding. You, you are already talking abound redemption in the future, condemnation for those unlucky fellas. Do you know what's gonna happen in the next minute?

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

Halos di ko maunawaan pinagsasabi nito. Genocide, ah that is something that can be ignored since it was the god who committed it. Tama ba?

Puro fantasy yang laman ng post mo na meron namatay for my sins, na may nag-preach for 100 years na may joseph, who?

Teka, from whom the humanity will be saved from? Isn't it from the god himself. So sya ang savior at hell operator at the same time?

Sa dami ng religious books, what makes your bible is THE ONE? Me, I do not pretend that I know which is which simply because I acknowledge the limitation of human understanding. You, you are already talking abound redemption in the future, condemnation for those unlucky fellas. Do you know what's gonna happen in the next minute?

kung puro siraulo ung papatayin mga rapist,malilibog,mamamatay tao at walang kunsyensya oo pabor ako sa genocide na ginawa sa bible.

 

[Thea18]

kung puro siraulo ung papatayin mga rapist,malilibog,mamamatay tao at walang kunsyensya oo pabor ako sa genocide na ginawa sa bible.

Yan bro.ang gusto nilang dumami sa mundo.nakakasawang argumento ng mga athiest pati yong nangyari sa panahon ni noah binigyan ng masamang pakahulugan di na inisip yong 100 taong palugit para magbago yong pinangaralan ni noah.kung kaylan tapos na yong daong saka nagmakaawang makasakay..hahaha.

 

[homer_simpson]

kung puro siraulo ung papatayin mga rapist,malilibog,mamamatay tao at walang kunsyensya oo pabor ako sa genocide na ginawa sa bible.

Isa lang ang tutoo sa sinabi mo, oo malibog ako pero that does not mean I'm a rapist nor a killer. Just a simple, plain malibog! Happy?

Ingat ka sa sinasabi mo at baka kasama ka din sa i-waterboard ng boss god mo. This time, ang makakaligtas lang mostly un US Navy, sila yata may pinaka madami submarines

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

Isa lang ang tutoo sa sinabi mo, oo malibog ako pero that does not mean I'm a rapist nor a killer. Just a simple, plain malibog! Happy?

Ingat ka sa sinasabi mo at baka kasama ka din sa i-waterboard ng boss god mo. This time, ang makakaligtas lang mostly un US Navy, sila yata may pinaka madami submarines

wala akong pake kung kasama ako dun sa wa-waterboard o pupugutan ng ulo ng dahan dahan o ung torture na ginawa sa china na onting onting hinihiwa ung laman ng parte ng katawan or mag swimming man sa lava or asupre dahil kung mapapatunayan na totoo ang diyos sa bible o kahit anong diyos as in legit ah.. ung pinaka supreme mismo na diyos legit may tatak na

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\ˈgäd also ˈgȯd \
Definition of god
(Entry 1 of 2)

1capitalized : the supreme or ultimate reality: such as

a: the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe

mag c-convert ako agad at susunod sa utos nya.

ako malibog ako pero di sa sobrang libog na kahit kanino na lang makikipag se-x, kung sino sino na lang na parang ginawang laro na lang ung se-x.kahit may asawa tinitira o kaya bata o hayop o aso,kabayo or kung anuman,iba kasi ung may consent sa rape kaya kasama ung malibog na category. kung di ka ganun wag ka tamaan.

sakin lang ung diyos na totoo siguro feel ko may compassion (kung totoo) kaya para sakin lang kung explain sakin ng maayos kung bakit ako di naging qualify sa paradise ng maayos edi tatanggapin ko na habang buhay akong to-torturerin baka siguro binigyan na ako ng chance as in nag pakita na sya and whatnot kaso di parin ako naniwala(o ayaw ko lang talaga sa diyos) at sumama pa sa anti god war crusade ahaha.

 

[homer_simpson]

The god, that you are looking for is all in ... your head.

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

at least I'm not assuming that I know everything.
just like scientist believe that the earth is the center of the universe and other planets(sun and moon included) revolved around it instead of the sun long time ago and even taught it in universities.

science isn't always the truth my friend...

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[homer_simpson]

at least I'm not assuming that I know everything.
just like scientist believe that the earth is the center of the universe and other planets(sun and moon included) revolved around it instead of the sun long time ago and even taught it in universities.

science isn't always the truth my friend...

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Was it the scientist or the religious prick who declared that the earth is the center of the universe during the early agest? Isn't it that one of the early scientists like Giordano Bruno who was burned at the stake for believing otherwise? Religious assholes are the ones who persecuted scientists during the early ages.

Science is a continual cyclical process of testing and verification. It formulates theories and verifies it. It does not rely on 1 single book (unlike your bible) and declare that this is it.

Get your facts straight first.

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

Was it the scientist or the religious prick who declared that the earth is the center of the universe during the early agest? Isn't it that one of the early scientists like Giordano Bruno who was burned at the stake for believing otherwise? Religious assholes are the ones who persecuted scientists in the early ages.

Get your facts straight first.

source -wikipedia

it was an early scientist

Aristotle (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.;You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.: You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. Aristotélēs, pronounced You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; 384–322 BC)You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. was an You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and scientist born in the city of You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., in the north of You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Along with You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., he is considered the "Father of Western Philosophy". Aristotle provided a complex and harmonious synthesis of the various existing philosophies prior to him, including those of Socrates and Plato, and it was above all from his teachings that the West inherited its fundamental intellectual lexicon, as well as problems and methods of inquiry. As a result, his philosophy has exerted a unique influence on almost every form of knowledge in the West and it continues to be central to the contemporary philosophical discussion.

For Aristotle, "all science (dianoia) is either practical, poetical or theoretical" (Metaphysics 1025b25). His practical science includes ethics and politics; his poetical science means the study of fine arts including poetry; his theoretical science covers physics, mathematics and metaphysics.

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Did Aristotle believe in God?
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Aristotle didn’t believe in anything. He looked at the world, described what happened, and analyzed the information presented to discern the answers to a great many philosophical questions. He started with physical phenomena, and progressed from those phenomena to infer meaning and events beyond what can be observed through human senses.

All of his beliefs were logically deduced, though he did make errors here and there. Much like Howard Stark, he was limited by the technology of his time.

Christians, specifically Thomas Aquinas, adopted the final point in his Metaphysics, that of the Unmoved Mover and First Cause, and identified that idea as God.

For Aristotle, this “God” was known and described as the first thing that moved, the thing that moved without being moved by anything prior. He was talking about the start of the universe, which must exist if the universe has a beginning (a common view at the time was that the universe always had, and always would exist).

Aristotle claimed that there must have been a point at which the universe began, and every subsequent action or movement can be traced to, and requires that first movement to continue its progression.

Christians, particularly highly educated Christians, do talk about their God in exactly this way. But it is important to note that for Aristotle, this Prime Mover was in no way humanlike, and in no way personable. All acted due to its action, but begging it for favors would make no rational sense. If the prayer was granted, the reason would be coincidence.

If you are Christian, you can still say that’s a sort of favoring of God, but it wasn’t caused by your prayer. Then again, advanced Christian theologians are aware that prayer is solely for the benefit of man. God will do what he will do, and as he always has done since setting the universe into motion. That act is all that was or ever could be. Each one of us is a tiny part of that.

If Aristotle believed in gods of any kind, that fact never appears in any of his recorded teachings. His Unmoved Mover is a principle of physics.



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Giordano Bruno

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Giordano Bruno died waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy back 16th century when Copernicus theory was rejected by other scientist and his colleagues, so how the hell is your theory stand up now?

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The Ideas Rejected

Nicholas Copernicus
Heliocentric Solar System


Lived 1473 to 1543
1800 years after the time of Aristarchus, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. began the scientific revolution when he resurrected the idea that the earth and other planets orbit the sun. He published his work shortly before he died.

Most astronomers who read Copernicus’s book thought it was excellent work, but they did not believe it. Most continued to believe that the earth is center of the universe.

Johannes Kepler
Heliocentric Solar System – Elliptical Orbits


Lived 1571 to 1630
You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. is the third scientist on this page who believed that the solar system is heliocentric, but he could not convince many other people that he was right. The idea of a sun-centered solar system met with a lot of resistance – based partly on religious beliefs – and based partly on common sense – everyone can see that the sun goes around the earth, rising in the east and setting in the west.

Kepler was one of the few people – You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. was another – who wholeheartedly backed Copernicus’s theory.

Kepler went further than Copernicus, who thought planets travel in circular paths around the sun. Kepler discovered that the planets’ paths are ‘squashed’ circles – ellipses.

Despite the brilliance of Kepler’s work, it was largely ignored in his lifetime. Decades later, Kepler’s work was the platform from which You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. discovered his law of universal gravitation.

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it wasn't the church that rejected their works it was their peers. Try harder next time.

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[homer_simpson]

In science, if you get it wrong, then learn from it, re-tests and reformulate. During the early ages, if you are a scientist and you get it right but not in accordance with your "church", you get burned at the stake. Sounds merciful and just to me, isn't it?

You said:

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it wasn't the church that rejected their works it was their peers. Try harder next time.
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Who's the church then? Isn't the church is composed of its constituents, especially the people who run it, ie "their peers". You are muddying the water, holy one.

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

In science, if you get it wrong, then learn from it, re-tests and reformulate. During the early ages, if you are a scientist and you get it right but not in accordance with your "church", you get burned at the stake. Sounds merciful and just to me, isn't it?

You said:

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it wasn't the church that rejected their works it was their peers. Try harder next time.
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Who's the church then? Isn't the church is composed of its constituents, especially the people who run it, ie "their peers". You are muddying the water, holy one.

yeah... the problem is it was taught for hundreds of years or more that the earth was the center of the universe.
it's like you atheist saying that there is no god. which still can't be proven by science. so the ******* you are referring to are other scientist that had a big problem believing their co-scientist.you look like a zealot that wants to inject your own idea without an open mind and it's pretty creepy if you ask me..

The Ideas Rejected

Nicholas Copernicus
Heliocentric Solar System


Lived 1473 to 1543
1800 years after the time of Aristarchus, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. began the scientific revolution when he resurrected the idea that the earth and other planets orbit the sun. He published his work shortly before he died.

Most astronomers who read Copernicus’s book thought it was excellent work, but they did not believe it. Most continued to believe that the earth is center of the universe.

Johannes Kepler
Heliocentric Solar System – Elliptical Orbits


Lived 1571 to 1630
You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. is the third scientist on this page who believed that the solar system is heliocentric, but he could not convince many other people that he was right. The idea of a sun-centered solar system met with a lot of resistance – based partly on religious beliefs – and based partly on common sense – everyone can see that the sun goes around the earth, rising in the east and setting in the west.

Kepler was one of the few people – You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. was another – who wholeheartedly backed Copernicus’s theory.

Kepler went further than Copernicus, who thought planets travel in circular paths around the sun. Kepler discovered that the planets’ paths are ‘squashed’ circles – ellipses.

Despite the brilliance of Kepler’s work, it was largely ignored in his lifetime. Decades later, Kepler’s work was the platform from which You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. discovered his law of universal gravitation.

read my post. because I already countered your argument heavily.
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Giordano Bruno

Modern portrait based on a woodcut from "Livre du recteur", 1578
Born
Filippo Bruno

1548
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Giordano Bruno died waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyy back 16th century when Copernicus theory was rejected by other scientist and his colleagues, so how the hell is your theory stand up now?
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you bring up the issue about Giordano Bruno and Galileo Galilei as if they were the only astronomers in their time. there was many scientist before them that believe that hypothesis of Aristotle long before they have been proven right.

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yeah... the one that hates Catholicism teaches Aristotle's theory.
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there are many astronomers and scientist that isn't famous and the same level as Giordano Bruno and Galileo Galilei before they become famous that rejected their idea because they didn't know that gravity existed yet. they thought that the earth was flat and accelerating upwards.

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Legend has it that You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and the church were at odds over his development of the heliocentric theory, a principle that disputed the widely held belief that Earth was the center of the universe.

Unlike Galileo and other controversial astronomers, however, Copernicus had a good relationship with the Catholic Church. It may come as a surprise, considering the Church banned Copernicus' "Des revolutionibus" for more than 200 years. Copernicus was actually respected as a canon and regarded as a renowned astronomer. Contrary to popular belief, the Church accepted Copernicus' heliocentric theory before a wave of Protestant opposition led the Church to ban Copernican views in the 17th century.

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for 200 years scientist believe that the earth was the center of the universe and taught in universities.
so don't claim that science is always right and don't assume anything because you'll look like an ******* like the scientist rejected Copernicus findings.

 

[homer_simpson]

You seem to be twisting the truth. Your ****ing catholic church was the one who declared that the earth is the center of the universe and anyone who challenge it are risking their lives.

Did you know that your ****ing catholic church is one of the richest organisations in the world? They have their own banks, military, businesses (some of which might be even involved in drugs, prostitution). Sabi sa bibliya mo, mas madali pa sa isang kamelyo ang pumasok sa butas ng karayom kesa sa mayamang tao, and yet their amassing wealth. What can you say about that?

Are you aware that tons of priests are molesting kids and yet none was punished. Does that sounds godly to you? S

Don't twist the truth.

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

You seem to be twisting the truth. Your ****ing catholic church was the one who declared that the earth is the center of the universe and anyone who challenge it are risking their lives.

Did you know that your ****ing catholic church is one of the richest organisations in the world? They have their own banks, military, businesses (some of which might be even involved in drugs, prostitution). Sabi sa bibliya mo, mas madali pa sa isang kamelyo ang pumasok sa butas ng karayom kesa sa mayamang tao, and yet their amassing wealth. What can you say about that?

Are you aware that tons of priests are molesting kids and yet none was punished. Does that sounds godly to you? S

Don't twist the truth.

wala akong pake sa sinasabi mo. ang pinag uusapan dito kung laging tama ang science o hindi. kagaya ng mga human experiments at ung social darwinism na ginawa ni hitler (including mass murder because science) ako wala akong pake kahit anong saibihin mo sa organize religion dahil ayoko talaga sa kanila. pero ayoko rin ng mga atheista dahil sila ang mga modern psycho ng mundo na niniwala sa katulad ni dawkins na sinasamba si darwin na parang diyos.

natural selection daw sabi ni hitler blue eyes people ang pinaka mataas na uri ng human species, mga negro at etc mas mababa kaya slaves lang sila or dapat patayin.... wow.lalo na mga negro parang hayop kung ituring dati.

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basta ako may backings sinasabi ko ikaw puro si rapist etc. blah blah blah iyak ako dahil ni rape ung di ko kilala blah blah blah, whoo walang diyos pwede na ako pumatay at kahit anong gawin ko pwede, whoo kakain ako ng tao para lumakas whoooo....

bigyan kita ng example kung gano ka brutal ang scientism ah.

kunwari may mga pulubi sa kalye na tutulog at kung saan saan nag squatter at dumu-dumi ang scientific response dito ay patayin para di na makaperwisyo dahil wala na nga silang na itutulong at salot pa.

ganun approach ng scientism brutal at efficient. kaya ako laging balance ang paniniwala ko di ako tumatawid sa kahit anong bakod lagi lang ako tumutulay sa gitna.