🕯️ Traditions Do you believe that the bible is authentic?open na po sa gustong mag-share.

Status
Not open for further replies.
Kapatid ko po seaman. At dapat tinanong mo kung may rutang south to North o North to South, Yun kasi model ng globo, kahit San direction tumbukin mo makakabalik ka sa starting point mo.
ay sya baka ikahiya ka ng kapatid mo pag nalaman, saka bakit magkakaroon ng ruta ng south to north kung puro yelo yun? Alam natin na andun yung malalaking iceburg.

Edited:
Hindi basihan na flat ang mundo kung ang dahil lang walang rutang North to south or South to North.
 
Pre, wala ka bang kilalang seaman or piloto? or anyone that is related to navigation? Pre may kilala akong Seaman tinanong ko sya kung nagawa na nyang mag around the world na isang way lang ang dadaanan mapa west kung west o east kung east. Sabi ko kasi may kasagutan akong Flat Earth believer sabi nya sakin "Pinatulan mo naman?" sabi ko oo pre, sinabihan ko lang ng kaunting facts.
Af idagdag ko na rin bout sa piloto pare para di ka naman mabitin, kung totoong bilog ang mundo so may curve yan, meaning ang mga piloto dapat nagtitip o inaayos ang lipad pababa nila every 5-10 minutes, pero tanong ka ng piloto mapalocal o foreign flight yan kung nagtitip sila ng lipad, sigurado ako from here to then USA steady lang lipad nila at hindi nagtitip.
Note: kailangan itip o ibaba ang angle ng lipad ng eroplano para umayon sa hugis ng mundo. (Kung totoo talagang sphere ang mundo).
 
ay sya baka ikahiya ka ng kapatid mo pag nalaman, saka bakit magkakaroon ng ruta ng south to north kung puro yelo yun? Alam natin na andun yung malalaking iceburg.

Edited:
Hindi basihan na flat ang mundo kung ang dahil lang walang rutang North to south or South to North.
Haha, so circumnavigation na based lang sa east to west at west to east lang pala patunay na bilog ang mundo? Eh pwede rin sa flat model yun eh. How then it can be proof na bilog talaga ang mundo, kung ang ideya ng sphere ay pwede magcircumnavigate KAHIT ANONG DIRECTION.
Note: nung umikot kuno si Magellan sa mundo(well, natigok na pala sya dito sa Pilipinas kaya technically di nya talaga naikot), hindi naman diretsong ruta kinuha nya, syempre iwas iwas din pag mabubunggo na maging sa iceberg man.
 
Ganito yan, wala akong kakilalang piloto kaya di ako makakapagtanong pero may nahanap akong makakasagot sa tanong mo. Pero sana masagot mo din muna yung mga nauna kong tanong sayo before na di mo nasagot bago mo ako tanungin.

"A plane will fly at a constant altitude and will follow the curvature of the earth and would not gain altitude during a level flight.

For instance, if a plane is cleared to maintain 35,000 feet, by regulations, the pilot must maintain that level based on a standard barometric pressure setting (29.92 inHg or 1013 millibars) Hence it would stay at that altitude (FL350) because the pilot is either controlling the plane manually or has engaged the autopilot to achieve that.

There are two basic instruments that enable this procedure - an altimeter and a vertical speed indicator (VSI). The VSI provides short term changes in pressure and indicates whether the plane is climbing or descending. These changes will give an indication to the pilot so that he would level the plane to maintain 35,000 feet. He will adjust the controls very slightly by use of the elevator and trims. This can be performed automatically by the autopilot as well. As such, the flight controls are constantly moving very subtly to maintain the correct attitude.

You said that, if the plane was trimmed for a straight and level flight, it would ‘gain altitude’ while flying as the earth surface ‘fell away’ due to the curvature of the earth. Well, that would probably happen in a perfectly motionless atmosphere where the plane would fly dead ahead, and over time gain altitude (provided it has sufficient thrust) as the earth curves away from under the airplane.

In reality, a constant altitude must be kept using the standard pressure and that means a fixed distance to the earth center of gravity is maintained, making the path of the plane a curved one.

So, a plane is not flying a straight line - geometrically speaking!"

and it make sense nga naman di ba? Theory lang naman kayo, wala nga flat earth believer na makalabas ng outerspace para makunan ng evidence na flat ang mundo. Sana noon pa may lumabas na actual photos and videos. At sa tingin mo pano ka nakakapanuod ng tv kung walang bagay ang nakakalabas ng outerspace? Sabi mo di nakakalabas yung mga rockets. Kung di mo alam parang ganto ata yun base sa aking stock knowledge. Nagbabato ng Signal si TV station sa Satellite na nasa Space tas ibabato sa mga Tower at papunta sa mga kabahayan kung di ako nagkakamali.
 
ma walang galang na lang po sa mga nag se share peace po tyo ha napansin ko lang po kasi medyo nalayo na po tyo sa tanong ni kuya question po do you believe that the bible is authentic? yes or no tapos opinion lang po thanks po sa inyo
 
Haha, so circumnavigation na based lang sa east to west at west to east lang pala patunay na bilog ang mundo? Eh pwede rin sa flat model yun eh. How then it can be proof na bilog talaga ang mundo, kung ang ideya ng sphere ay pwede magcircumnavigate KAHIT ANONG DIRECTION.
Note: nung umikot kuno si Magellan sa mundo(well, natigok na pala sya dito sa Pilipinas kaya technically di nya talaga naikot), hindi naman diretsong ruta kinuha nya, syempre iwas iwas din pag mabubunggo na maging sa iceberg man.

Pwede maging basihan yun. kasi nga bilog ang mundo kaya naiikot ng mga barko ang East to west at west to east, humawak ka kasi ng itlog tas gumuhit ka ng pabilog sa gitna ng malaman mo. Eh kung sa Flat earth ba makakaikot ng ganun ang barko? edi malalalag lag ang barko nyan sa edge o bubunggo sa Iceburg
 
Sino po nagsabi na dapat magkaron ng edge?
Yan po ang dahilan ng mga scientist para ereject ang flat earth, samantalang covered tayo ng napakalalaking ice ng Antarctica.
At tama ka naman sa idea ng itlog, pero kumuha ka din ng cardboard idrowing mo North Pole sa gitna tas bilugan mo, circumnavigation na din yun tulad sa globe/itlog model mo. Therefore, hindi proof yun kasi magwowork yun both sa globe at flat model.
 
Sino po nagsabi na dapat magkaron ng edge?
Yan po ang dahilan ng mga scientist para ereject ang flat earth, samantalang covered tayo ng napakalalaking ice ng Antarctica.
At tama ka naman sa idea ng itlog, pero kumuha ka din ng cardboard idrowing mo North Pole sa gitna tas bilugan mo, circumnavigation na din yun tulad sa globe/itlog model mo. Therefore, hindi proof yun kasi magwowork yun both sa globe at flat model.

ang parang sinasabi nya ata is kapag nag travel ka ng straight. Babalik ak pa rin sa location mo kasi 3d sphere ang eart.

whereas kapag 2d circle ang earth. ice wall na lang ang dead end mo
 
ang tanong lang naman e kung authentic ba yung bible o hindi....nababad ata ang comment kung totoong bilog or flat ang mundo..!!!!
 
ang parang sinasabi nya ata is kapag nag travel ka ng straight. Babalik ak pa rin sa location mo kasi 3d sphere ang eart.

whereas kapag 2d circle ang earth. ice wall na lang ang dead end mo
Tama ka dun paps,


Dextroxe , at bakit ako mag dodrawing sa cardboard na ang nasa gitna is NorthPole? hindi po pwedeng maging north pole yun kasi gitna yun Middle pole or Center pole dapat itawag kung ganun.
 
ang tanong lang naman e kung authentic ba yung bible o hindi....nababad ata ang comment kung totoong bilog or flat ang mundo..!!!!
Alam mo ba meaning ng subtopic? Nabasa mo ba buong post ni ts? Nabanggit niya don "Pinagtatalunan po noon kung ang mundo ba ay flat o bilog." Soooo yeah, subtopic bro.
 
Di tawagin mo sya sa kung anong gusto mo papsikels, it doesn't matter. What matters is, like what I've said, you can circumnavigate in a flat model earth like in a globe model earth. And like what I've said much earlier, kung pwede magcircumnavigate sa globe model in ANY GIVEN DIRECTION and arrive at the starting point like the globe model suggest, bakit wala pa sa buong kasaysayan ng tao na nakapgcircumnavigate from north-south and south to North with all the technology we have now, the globe model fails to explain this but the flat model simply explains this, as you go far south you will definitely go the unknown where no man has even set his foot on it.
 
Ganito yan, wala akong kakilalang piloto kaya di ako makakapagtanong pero may nahanap akong makakasagot sa tanong mo. Pero sana masagot mo din muna yung mga nauna kong tanong sayo before na di mo nasagot bago mo ako tanungin.

"A plane will fly at a constant altitude and will follow the curvature of the earth and would not gain altitude during a level flight.

For instance, if a plane is cleared to maintain 35,000 feet, by regulations, the pilot must maintain that level based on a standard barometric pressure setting (29.92 inHg or 1013 millibars) Hence it would stay at that altitude (FL350) because the pilot is either controlling the plane manually or has engaged the autopilot to achieve that.

There are two basic instruments that enable this procedure - an altimeter and a vertical speed indicator (VSI). The VSI provides short term changes in pressure and indicates whether the plane is climbing or descending. These changes will give an indication to the pilot so that he would level the plane to maintain 35,000 feet. He will adjust the controls very slightly by use of the elevator and trims. This can be performed automatically by the autopilot as well. As such, the flight controls are constantly moving very subtly to maintain the correct attitude.

You said that, if the plane was trimmed for a straight and level flight, it would ‘gain altitude’ while flying as the earth surface ‘fell away’ due to the curvature of the earth. Well, that would probably happen in a perfectly motionless atmosphere where the plane would fly dead ahead, and over time gain altitude (provided it has sufficient thrust) as the earth curves away from under the airplane.

In reality, a constant altitude must be kept using the standard pressure and that means a fixed distance to the earth center of gravity is maintained, making the path of the plane a curved one.

So, a plane is not flying a straight line - geometrically speaking!"

and it make sense nga naman di ba? Theory lang naman kayo, wala nga flat earth believer na makalabas ng outerspace para makunan ng evidence na flat ang mundo. Sana noon pa may lumabas na actual photos and videos. At sa tingin mo pano ka nakakapanuod ng tv kung walang bagay ang nakakalabas ng outerspace? Sabi mo di nakakalabas yung mga rockets. Kung di mo alam parang ganto ata yun base sa aking stock knowledge. Nagbabato ng Signal si TV station sa Satellite na nasa Space tas ibabato sa mga Tower at papunta sa mga kabahayan kung di ako nagkakamali.
Pre hindi ako naniniwala sa outer space, imbento lang po iyon. At tulad ng sabi ko, ang NASA mismo walang photo ng earth, lahat yun based sa composite data ng sa mundo o gawa gawa lang.
At about sa satellites pare, sa ilang libo "daw" na satellites sa orbit, ni isa dyan wala lang nakikita na dumaan man lang sa buwan dahil hindi sila nagexist.
At kaya nga kelangan mo ng towers at kilokilometrong cables na nakabaon sa lupa dahil walang satellite. At ang signal ng Android phone mo ay umiiral dahil sa tinatawag na triangularization, kaya nga may parte pa rin ng Pilipinas na wala o mahinang mahinang ang signal. Kung totoong may satellites si sana makakatanggap tayo ng pantay-pantay na signal. At kung totoong may satellite di sana cableless na ang connection ng bawat isp sa mundo kaso lahat yan umaasa pa rin sa cables para sa connection.
 
Pre hindi ako naniniwala sa outer space, imbento lang po iyon. At tulad ng sabi ko, ang NASA mismo walang photo ng earth, lahat yun based sa composite data ng sa mundo o gawa gawa lang.
At about sa satellites pare, sa ilang libo "daw" na satellites sa orbit, ni isa dyan wala lang nakikita na dumaan man lang sa buwan dahil hindi sila nagexist.
At kaya nga kelangan mo ng towers at kilokilometrong cables na nakabaon sa lupa dahil walang satellite. At ang signal ng Android phone mo ay umiiral dahil sa tinatawag na triangularization, kaya nga may parte pa rin ng Pilipinas na wala o mahinang mahinang ang signal. Kung totoong may satellites si sana makakatanggap tayo ng pantay-pantay na signal. At kung totoong may satellite di sana cableless na ang connection ng bawat isp sa mundo kaso lahat yan umaasa pa rin sa cables para sa connection.
Maliit lang ang satellite compared sa buwan kaya hindi mo talaga ito makikita
 
Ganito yan, wala akong kakilalang piloto kaya di ako makakapagtanong pero may nahanap akong makakasagot sa tanong mo. Pero sana masagot mo din muna yung mga nauna kong tanong sayo before na di mo nasagot bago mo ako tanungin.

"A plane will fly at a constant altitude and will follow the curvature of the earth and would not gain altitude during a level flight.

For instance, if a plane is cleared to maintain 35,000 feet, by regulations, the pilot must maintain that level based on a standard barometric pressure setting (29.92 inHg or 1013 millibars) Hence it would stay at that altitude (FL350) because the pilot is either controlling the plane manually or has engaged the autopilot to achieve that.

There are two basic instruments that enable this procedure - an altimeter and a vertical speed indicator (VSI). The VSI provides short term changes in pressure and indicates whether the plane is climbing or descending. These changes will give an indication to the pilot so that he would level the plane to maintain 35,000 feet. He will adjust the controls very slightly by use of the elevator and trims. This can be performed automatically by the autopilot as well. As such, the flight controls are constantly moving very subtly to maintain the correct attitude.

You said that, if the plane was trimmed for a straight and level flight, it would ‘gain altitude’ while flying as the earth surface ‘fell away’ due to the curvature of the earth. Well, that would probably happen in a perfectly motionless atmosphere where the plane would fly dead ahead, and over time gain altitude (provided it has sufficient thrust) as the earth curves away from under the airplane.

In reality, a constant altitude must be kept using the standard pressure and that means a fixed distance to the earth center of gravity is maintained, making the path of the plane a curved one.

So, a plane is not flying a straight line - geometrically speaking!"

and it make sense nga naman di ba? Theory lang naman kayo, wala nga flat earth believer na makalabas ng outerspace para makunan ng evidence na flat ang mundo. Sana noon pa may lumabas na actual photos and videos. At sa tingin mo pano ka nakakapanuod ng tv kung walang bagay ang nakakalabas ng outerspace? Sabi mo di nakakalabas yung mga rockets. Kung di mo alam parang ganto ata yun base sa aking stock knowledge. Nagbabato ng Signal si TV station sa Satellite na nasa Space tas ibabato sa mga Tower at papunta sa mga kabahayan kung di ako nagkakamali.
At idagdag ko na din, open po ang observatory sa UP, pwede ka po dun pumunta kung okay lang sayo, para maghanap ng satellites, mas di hamak na mas malapit po sila kesa sa mga planets kaya you won't find it hard to find one. Pero I highly doubt it na makakakita ka kahit isa lang.
 
Maliit lang ang satellite compared sa buwan kaya hindi mo talaga ito makikita
Mas maliit pero nakikita mo papsikels kung totoo talagang meron. Tandaan po natin na may magnifying capabilities ang mga telescope lalu na kung mas di hamak na mas malapit ang mga satellites kasi nasa orbit lang ang mga ito kesa sa mga natatanaw nila na nasa ibang galaxy.
 
Di tawagin mo sya sa kung anong gusto mo papsikels, it doesn't matter. What matters is, like what I've said, you can circumnavigate in a flat model earth like in a globe model earth. And like what I've said much earlier, kung pwede magcircumnavigate sa globe model in ANY GIVEN DIRECTION and arrive at the starting point like the globe model suggest, bakit wala pa sa buong kasaysayan ng tao na nakapgcircumnavigate from north-south and south to North with all the technology we have now, the globe model fails to explain this but the flat model simply explains this, as you go far south you will definitely go the unknown where no man has even set his foot on it.
Kasi nga po kung nasa center ng Pole Center pole or Middle Pole ang itatawag dun, mas realistic kesa North pole na nasa gitna. Tapos may nabasa ako na may kinoconsider din ang mga piloto kaya di sila pwede basta dumaan ng South at North pole. yung sinasabi mong circumnavigate sa flat earth ay halimbawa ba nasa pinas ako tas lilipad ako tapos parang guguhit ng 2D Circle tapos ang balik ay pinas ulit ako? Sige parehas nga nagagawa yung mag circumnavigate dun sa mga illustration natin, pano mo iexplain na minsan mahaba ang araw sa gabi o mas mahaba ang gabi sa araw? Ito po explanation jan.,


"The days are longer around the summer solstice and shorter around the winter solstice. When the Sun's path crosses the equator, the length of the nights at latitudes +L° and -L° are of equal length. This is known as an equinox. There are two solstices and two equinoxes in a tropical year."

"When it is tilted away from the Sun, it is winter in the northern hemisphere. In between we have autumn and spring. The day that the Earth's North Pole is tilted closest to the sun is called the summer solstice. This is the longest day (most daylight hours) of the year for people living in the northern hemisphere."
 

Attachments

  • equinox.gif
    equinox.gif
    19.1 KB · Views: 13
Status
Not open for further replies.

About this Thread

  • 1K
    Replies
  • 42K
    Views
  • 183
    Participants
Last reply from:
pnash08

Online now

Members online
1,276
Guests online
1,643
Total visitors
2,919

Forum statistics

Threads
2,272,534
Posts
28,943,310
Members
1,237,243
Latest member
Phunsukh
Back
Top