🔒 Closed Atheist ako. Atheist din ba kayo?

[Padabaa]

Basta ako patatas ako

 

[jayendecastro]

iyon naman talaga ang evolution, strongest species always dominate, in fact human species are strong enough to go out from nature and establish an environment set by them and not by nature, since evolution operates in natural selection then we could be dominating for long time because we practice artificial selection heavily (we modify nature instead of nature dictating the next mutation)

dito kasi if meron scientific basis before declaring what you [believe] it means you only have 1 choice and that is to follow that basis, i am not classifying this situation as belief

dito naman it looks like you declared your belief and test it with PAG-ASA's data so meron 2 options dito either match or mismatch, about naman sa accuracy ni PAG-ASA, it is the most accurate since there is no truth in science

tomorrow's weather cannot be known or is unknown as of the moment and that's the reason why pwedeng maging mali or tama, we can make belief naman on it but still subject to being mali or tama

Not necessarily, i can still choose to not believe PAG-ASA eh… though its a silly or stupid choice pero its still a choice nonetheless…

Second.. ung choice to believe kung uulan the next day is not to test ung info ng PAGASA..its a choice to believe based on their data and info… and sa case na yan both me and pagasa are still fallible…

Sa last part thanks gets mo na na we can still form a belief based on science…

We can know or not know things… (a/gnosticism)
We can believe or not believe in things…(a/theism)
About god yan syempre but hope u get my point

 

[makiolo]

And which creator yang tinutukoy mo?

Bible believer ka Po?

 

[cirilo143]

as for me, I don't really care if you're a believer or an atheist. as long as you follow the norms of life; what is right or wrong then I guess you are good to go. I can't blame you for being an atheist since you were born without given the privilege to witness God.

 

[plhbg1]

Not necessarily, i can still choose to not believe PAG-ASA eh… though its a silly or stupid choice pero its still a choice nonetheless…

if you don't agree with pag-asa then di mo talaga siya basis

Second.. ung choice to believe kung uulan the next day is not to test ung info ng PAGASA..its a choice to believe based on their data and info… and sa case na yan both me and pagasa are still fallible…

ah akala ko nag declare muna before compare with pag-asa data

Sa last part thanks gets mo na na we can still form a belief based on science…

i'm always consistent with belief being always applied to things unknown to science so i don't get it, siguro dahil iyon sa sinabi kong unknown yung tomorrow's weather which iko-correct ko na since science already has info about it so no longer unknown, i correct myself sa sinabi kong unknown si tomorrow's weather

We can know or not know things… (a/gnosticism)
We can believe or not believe in things…(a/theism)
About god yan syempre but hope u get my point

i don't agree with agnosticism saying we cannot know things, there still possibility
i don't agree with atheism saying we cannot believe things, they still believe on the non-existence of god

as for me, I don't really care if you're a believer or an atheist. as long as you follow the norms of life; what is right or wrong then I guess you are good to go. I can't blame you for being an atheist since you were born without given the privilege to witness God.

which right or wrong are you talking about? yun bang right or wrong sa paningin ko? or yun na namang right or wrong sa paningin ng isang god

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

hindi pala special ang organic consciousness what if your parents was replace with this ai do you agree that they are still your parents?

What if your parents was replaced with another person would they still be your parents? Same thing lang nmn..

we are program right but still we choose what to believe in any case we can either beilive them or to not to follow them kaya nga my mga nagiging sutil eh,

Meron na maraming example ng AI na product ng AI learning kung saan masasabi mo they are "thinking outside the box". Art Generator, music generator, lyric generator. Can you still say they only do what they are programmed to create? The fact is, they seem to be superior dahil yung mga gawa nila is not impeded by the bias of belief.

as for me, I don't really care if you're a believer or an atheist. as long as you follow the norms of life; what is right or wrong then I guess you are good to go. I can't blame you for being an atheist since you were born without given the privilege to witness God.

Sounds correct on the surface, but what does "norms of life" mean. How can you tell that an action or the prevention of an action complies with this "norms of life".

 

[killua2318]

Believer ako, parang utak lang yan eh, hindi mo man nakikita yung utak mo sa physical pero naniniwala ka na meron kang utak. Kasi ginagamit mo. Pag naniwala ka na God Exist wala namang mawalala. Its better to believe than not to, then at the end of the day you knew that God truly exist pala.

 

[AdmiralKape]

What if your parents was replaced with another person would they still be your parents? Same thing lang nmn..

Meron na maraming example ng AI na product ng AI learning kung saan masasabi mo they are "thinking outside the box". Art Generator, music generator, lyric generator. Can you still say they only do what they are programmed to create? The fact is, they seem to be superior dahil yung mga gawa nila is not impeded by the bias of belief.


Sounds correct on the surface, but what does "norms of life" mean. How can you tell that an action or the prevention of an action complies with this "norms of life".

Generator thinking out of the box as I said, they are programmed of what they intented to. If you have basic knowledge of programming you can get me. I also do programming before kaya yung mga generator na yan is just program like kukunin nya yong mga details , tapos i rarandomize yong igegenerate tapos i sasave sa database then for future use.pero once ba nireset ang database of nawala good bye.

 

[OptimusPrimeUrghUrgh]

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Generator thinking out of the box as I said, they are programmed of what they intented to. If you have basic knowledge of programming you can get me. I also do programming before kaya yung mga generator na yan is just program like kukunin nya yong mga details , tapos i rarandomize yong igegenerate tapos i sasave sa database then for future use.pero once ba nireset ang database of nawala good byebye

I get you. Same thing sa utak ng tao. You take data. You process the data. Then use the data accordingly. Pag nabagok ka, alzheimers or stroke, bye bye.

 

[Betlogbolbol]

pano mo ma ie-explain kung sino gumawa sa Diyos

high ka?

kaya nga wahahhahaha


ewan

bulok ata isipan mo

 

[cirilo143]

What if your parents was replaced with another person would they still be your parents? Same thing lang nmn..

Meron na maraming example ng AI na product ng AI learning kung saan masasabi mo they are "thinking outside the box". Art Generator, music generator, lyric generator. Can you still say they only do what they are programmed to create? The fact is, they seem to be superior dahil yung mga gawa nila is not impeded by the bias of belief.


Sounds correct on the surface, but what does "norms of life" mean. How can you tell that an action or the prevention of an action complies with this "norms of life".

Great question, what does "norms of life" mean in the first place. what is the basis do we need to get it from.
before we were born maraming nang tao ang hindi naniniwala sa diyos ? how do we know that? they created their own law; CIVIL/COMMON/CRIMINAL LAW and that is how government originated. So tatanuning mo anong connection niyan sa "norm"? norms of life come naturally kahit mga hayop may sinasabi tayong term na rules of the jungle; "The strong prey on the weak" ika nga pero di nila alam yang "rules of the jungle" kasi tayo mga tao ang gumawa sa terminology na yan, paano ? kasi yan ang na observe natin sa kanila as an animal. Science is an observatiohn thru experimentation ... so thru observing you can know the "norms of life", atheist is a non-believer so that includes the doctrine 10 commandments so why a lot of atheists is not a killer? because it naturally lived within them that it is wrong to kill. even though they do not follow the 10 commandments, but they follow the norms of life that has lived within us. it's like a sixth sense on the matter or the feeling of being in-love.

Hindi ako atheists but there were some times in the past na kinukwestyun ko yung the "Big One" dahil sa mga teachings and doctrines of several religions pero I just realized lately that I'm not atheists but rather I just don't believe in man-made religion at all. I believe na if God is real, IT would probably just lying low and not actively meddling on human affairs which is a contradiction sa version ng Diyos sa Bibliya. I live my life to the fullest without restricting myself on absurd traditions and doctrines enforced by some religions/cult

a believer but not a follower.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Great question, what does "norms of life" mean in the first place. what is the basis do we need to get it from.
before we were born maraming nang tao ang hindi naniniwala sa diyos ? how do we know that? they created their own law; CIVIL/COMMON/CRIMINAL LAW and that is how government originated. So tatanuning mo anong connection niyan sa "norm"? norms of life come naturally kahit mga hayop may sinasabi tayong term na rules of the jungle; "The strong prey on the weak" ika nga pero di nila alam yang "rules of the jungle" kasi tayo mga tao ang gumawa sa terminology na yan, paano ? kasi yan ang na observe natin sa kanila as an animal. Science is an observatiohn thru experimentation ... so thru observing you can know the "norms of life", atheist is a non-believer so that includes the doctrine 10 commandments so why a lot of atheists is not a killer? because it naturally lived within them that it is wrong to kill. even though they do not follow the 10 commandments, but they follow the norms of life that has lived within us. it's like a sixth sense on the matter or the feeling of being in-love.

To clarify one thing, "strong preys the weak" is not unique to animals. We also kill weaker animals for food everyday. Social animals also consider it a taboo to kill a member of the same group unless defensive. So (intragroup)killing is a universal taboo with only very little exception. It is cheating to use that as an example, IMO.

Issues are not always that easy to explain. Say for example, a girl was subjected to forced intercourse, she gets preggy. She was then offered an opportunity to abort..
How does "norm of life" rules fare with this kind of issues?

 

[Ajaey]

Believer ako, parang utak lang yan eh, hindi mo man nakikita yung utak mo sa physical pero naniniwala ka na meron kang utak. Kasi ginagamit mo. Pag naniwala ka na God Exist wala namang mawalala. Its better to believe than not to, then at the end of the day you knew that God truly exist pala.

i mean you can literally see a brain though? you know it exists.

 

[cirilo143]

To clarify one thing, "strong preys the weak" is not unique to animals. We also kill weaker animals for food everyday. Social animals also consider it a taboo to kill a member of the same group unless defensive. So (intragroup)killing is a universal taboo with only very little exception. It is cheating to use that as an example, IMO.

Issues are not always that easy to explain. Say for example, a girl was subjected to forced intercourse, she gets preggy. She was then offered an opportunity to abort..
How does "norm of life" rules fare with this kind of issues?

Your clarification made it clearer that "norms of life" in fact comes to us naturally. So even without knowing 10 commandments we naturally avoid killing a member of the same group and term it as taboo. 10 commandments are actually written taboos. Which I have previously commented that "follow the norms of life and your'e good to go".


That's actually a good example to clear out the norms of life.
"Norms of life" -- not omnipotent. Sometimes, Following the norms of life are clouded by neural impulse or what we commonly known as emotion. Driven by the compulsive sexual desire would result to a forced intercourse, they know that it is wrong to do such a thing but they do it anyway. Subject gets preggy and then offered to abort. There was actually a psychologicals studies that most *******t rape victims change their attitudes about their unborn child from something repulsive to someone who is innocent when given proper support.

 

[MoPeanuts]

pano mo ma ie-explain kung sino gumawa sa Diyos

walang atheist kung walang Jesus Christ lol.

 

[ioriyagami25]

Pinaglalaban niyo atheist kayo bukas kukuhain na buhay niyo haha Wala kayo magagawa sino may hawak Ng buhay natin siya lang kaya mag isip isip na kayo baka bukas di mo alam ano mangyayari sayo .

Nasa huli pag sisisi habang may buhay pa manalig sa kanya siya lang may hawak Ng buhay natin kahit atheist ka mamatay ka din at haharap sa kanya

 

[plhbg1]

Pinaglalaban niyo atheist kayo bukas kukuhain na buhay niyo haha Wala kayo magagawa sino may hawak Ng buhay natin siya lang kaya mag isip isip na kayo baka bukas di mo alam ano mangyayari sayo .

Nasa huli pag sisisi habang may buhay pa manalig sa kanya siya lang may hawak Ng buhay natin kahit atheist ka mamatay ka din at haharap sa kanya

meron nga ba talagang humahawak ng buhay natin? meron nga ba talagang judgement after? mag-isip na din kayo, merong actual na pera kinukuha sa inyo ng simbahan, yun ang meron evidence hehe

 

[ioriyagami25]

meron nga ba talagang humahawak ng buhay natin? meron nga ba talagang judgement after? mag-isip na din kayo, merong actual na pera kinukuha sa inyo ng simbahan, yun ang meron evidence hehe

Yes tao lang tau pero meron tau madadala sa panaglawang buhay natin un ay spirit natin depende Kung saan ka pupunta kung di ka nanalig sa kanya alam muna saan ka pupunta sa apoy lalangoy Doon at napakainit habang buhay ba at Wala Ng chance di kana makakahingi Ng saklolo dahil Ayan Ang parusa na di naniniwala sa kanya. Yan ung ikalawang kamatayan ., Naghihintay lang Ang diyos na magsisi tau para makasama Doon sa paraiso ..

Kung tutuusin makasalanan tau pede na Tau patayin Ng diyos pero dahil Kay Jesus Christ kahit tau makasalanan at di naniwala sa kanya may chance pa tau mag sisi

Yan Ang purpose ni Jesus Christ iligas tau sa kapahamakan at libre lang Yan pero nasa sayo nayan Sabi nga nila nasa huli Ang pagsisi at pag Ang diyos humatol Wala Ng chance dahil nasa kanya Ang paniningil ..

 

[JokeUnavailbe]

okay lang na maniwala, wag lang sa religion. malabo padin kasi ang from nothing to something from the very beginning, di nga natin alam na baka science project lng tong buong galaxy natin na nasa boti na napag ewanan lang sa loob ng cabinet sa iba pang nilalang na hindi natin nakikita. o di kaya itong buong kalawakan parti lng to ng katawan ng iba pang nilalang na di masukat ang laki, na gumagalaw din na parang mga normal lang din sa kanilang planeta. isa pa sa dami2x ng mga sun sa buong kalawakan na may mga katulad din na planeta natin, mas marami pa sa buhangin dito sa buong earth, imposible naman yatang sa atin lang naka focus ang may likha. kung iintendihin din natin mabuti ang bible, halata namang galing lang talaga sa kathang isip ng tao, tulad ng christianity, hindi naman yan naging major religion dahil sa quality ng pagka pagiging makakatutuhanan kundi dahil sa quantity ng karahasan, hindi yan mag mamature kung walang patayan at ibat ibang uri ng pananakot. kahit yang mga preachers alam naman talaga nila yan na hindi talaga totoo mga pinag sasabi nila pero dahil sa dyan sila kumikita at talent din nila na magaling mag salita kahit fake news kaya sila naging pastors/priest, para sa kanila once na ma brainwashed na nila ang tao lalo na kung buong pamilya, parang farm na nila yan na kusang lalapit nlng sa kanila every week at tithes every months, mas marami members mas marami silang maaani, higit pa yan sa lending business, kasi laway lang puhunan ng mga yan. mga founder ng religion kung tingnan nyo mga history nila lahat mga criminal, mga mamamatay tao, bounty hunter.