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Some biblical texts positively demonstrate Christ’s divinity. John 1:1-3, mentioned above, first comes to mind: "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God . . . All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made."
Jesus (the Word before his Incarnation) is revealed to be "God" and the Creator of all things that were created. Genesis 1:1 tells us, "In the beginning God created . . ." The conclusion is inescapable: Jesus is God!
Jehovah’s Witnesses respond by claiming the Greek text actually says ". . . the Word was a god." They maintain Jesus is here revealed to be a god, not the God because the definite article (Gk. Ho, the) is not used before god(Gk. theos), when referring to Jesus. This line of reasoning has three main problems:
"And the Lord God (Gk. ho kurios ho theos, the Lord the God) of the spirits of the prophets sent his angel to show his servants the things which must be done shortly" (Rev. 22:6). Who is the Lord God who sent "his angel" in this verse? Some attempt to say this text is referring to the Father rather than Jesus. However, Revelation 22:16, just 10 verses later, reveals to us who "the Lord God" is who has "sent his angel:" " I Jesus have sent my angel, to testify to you these things in the churches." Jesus is clearly "the Lord God of the spirits of the prophets!"
In Luke 12:8-9, angels are called "angels of God"; in Matthew 13:41, angels are called "[Jesus’] angels." Jesus and God are synonymous. Jesus does what only God can do. He forgives sins by his own authority (see Is. 43:25; Mark 2:5-9). He judges the world in Matthew 25:31-46. This is God’s prerogative according to Genesis 18:25 and Joel 3:12.
Jesus refers to himself with the divine name—I am —in several places. This "I am" formula is a reference back to the Divine Name revealed to Moses in Ex. 3:14. Not only does Jesus refer to himself as "I am" four times in John’s Gospel (see John 8:24; 58; 13:19 and 18:5-6), but when he does so in John 8:58, the Jews to whom he was speaking understood his meaning because they immediately wanted to stone him for blasphemy!
Jesus places his word on the same level as the word of God—the Old Testament. "You have heard it said . . . but I say to you . . ." (see Matt. 5:21-28). This is in sharp contrast to the prophets of old who always made clear the word they were speaking was not their own: "The word of the Lord came unto me, saying . . . " (cf. Jer. 1:11; Ezek. 1:3, etc.). Only God possesses this kind of authority.
Jesus is referred to as "equal" with God by both John and Paul. In John 5:18, the author comments on why the Jews wanted to kill Jesus: "Because he called God his Father, making himself equal with God." Paul refers to Jesus when he was "in the form (Gk. morphe; in Greek usage this word means the set of characteristics that makes a thing what it is) of God" thinking "his equality with God" not something to be g.asped onto, but emptying himself and becoming man (cf. Phil. 2:6-10). Paul assumes his readers already knew Jesus to be equal with God, the Father.
Jesus is referred to in the New Testament with the title Lord as it is uniquely applied to Yahweh in the Old Testament. Jesus calls himself "the Lord of the Sabbath" in Mark 2:28. The Sabbath is referred to as the "Sabbath of Yahweh" in the Old Testament (cf. Ex. 20:10; see also Is. 8:13, referred to in 1 Peter 3:15; and Joel 2:31-32, quoted both in Acts 2:20-21 and in Rom. 10:13).
The First and Last Point
The final proof of Jesus’ divinity we will consider can be found in the last two chapters of the book of Revelation. According to Revelation 21:6-7, Almighty God reveals himself to us in plain terms: "And he said to me, ‘It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the fountain of the water of life without payment. He who conquers shall have this heritage, and I will be his God and he shall be my son.’"
But then, in Revelation 22:6, 13, 16, we find Jesus revealing himself to be "the Alpha and the Omega . . . the beginning and the end":
And he said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. And the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place . . . I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end . . . I Jesus have sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star."
Jesus is God.
Some biblical texts positively demonstrate Christ’s divinity. John 1:1-3, mentioned above, first comes to mind: "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God, and the Word was God . . . All things were made by him: and without him was made nothing that was made."
Jesus (the Word before his Incarnation) is revealed to be "God" and the Creator of all things that were created. Genesis 1:1 tells us, "In the beginning God created . . ." The conclusion is inescapable: Jesus is God!
Jehovah’s Witnesses respond by claiming the Greek text actually says ". . . the Word was a god." They maintain Jesus is here revealed to be a god, not the God because the definite article (Gk. Ho, the) is not used before god(Gk. theos), when referring to Jesus. This line of reasoning has three main problems:
- The predicate nominative in Greek normally does not take the definite article. In this verse, then, the lack of the definite article is grammatically consistent. According to the Theological Dictionary of the New Testament, we see another example of this convention in John 8:54, where the predicate nominative is "Father"—again without the definite article preceding (3:105).
- The JW’s are inconsistent. They translate the word theos as "Jehovah," or the God numerous times in their New World Translation of the Bible when it does not have the article preceding it (see NWT: Matt. 5:9, 6:24; Luke 1:35, 2:40; John 1:6,12,13,18; Rom. 1:7,17,18; and Titus 1:1, just to name a few).
- Jesus is referred to as theos with the definite article multiple times elsewhere in Scripture. For example: "But of the Son he says, ‘Thy throne, O God (ho theos, the definite article plus theos), is for ever and ever, the righteous scepter is the scepter of thy kingdom’" (Heb. 1:8). Jesus is not a god here. He is the God: "Awaiting our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior Jesus Christ " (Titus 2:13, emphasis added—definite article appears in apposition to "great God"). Not only do we see the definite article before theos, but we see the article plus the adjective great. Jesus is not only the God, he is the great God and our Savior. The Bible is very clear that only Yahweh is both the great God and our Savior. (See Isaiah 41:4, 43:3,11, 44:6,8, 45:21; Hos. 13:4; and Luke 1:47.) Consider too: Thomas answered, and said to [Jesus]: "My Lord and My God" (John 20:28). The Greek text reads "the Lord of me and the God of me." The definite article before Lord and God leaves no doubt that Thomas—directly addressing our Lord—calls Jesus both the Lord and theGod.
"And the Lord God (Gk. ho kurios ho theos, the Lord the God) of the spirits of the prophets sent his angel to show his servants the things which must be done shortly" (Rev. 22:6). Who is the Lord God who sent "his angel" in this verse? Some attempt to say this text is referring to the Father rather than Jesus. However, Revelation 22:16, just 10 verses later, reveals to us who "the Lord God" is who has "sent his angel:" " I Jesus have sent my angel, to testify to you these things in the churches." Jesus is clearly "the Lord God of the spirits of the prophets!"
In Luke 12:8-9, angels are called "angels of God"; in Matthew 13:41, angels are called "[Jesus’] angels." Jesus and God are synonymous. Jesus does what only God can do. He forgives sins by his own authority (see Is. 43:25; Mark 2:5-9). He judges the world in Matthew 25:31-46. This is God’s prerogative according to Genesis 18:25 and Joel 3:12.
Jesus refers to himself with the divine name—I am —in several places. This "I am" formula is a reference back to the Divine Name revealed to Moses in Ex. 3:14. Not only does Jesus refer to himself as "I am" four times in John’s Gospel (see John 8:24; 58; 13:19 and 18:5-6), but when he does so in John 8:58, the Jews to whom he was speaking understood his meaning because they immediately wanted to stone him for blasphemy!
Jesus places his word on the same level as the word of God—the Old Testament. "You have heard it said . . . but I say to you . . ." (see Matt. 5:21-28). This is in sharp contrast to the prophets of old who always made clear the word they were speaking was not their own: "The word of the Lord came unto me, saying . . . " (cf. Jer. 1:11; Ezek. 1:3, etc.). Only God possesses this kind of authority.
Jesus is referred to as "equal" with God by both John and Paul. In John 5:18, the author comments on why the Jews wanted to kill Jesus: "Because he called God his Father, making himself equal with God." Paul refers to Jesus when he was "in the form (Gk. morphe; in Greek usage this word means the set of characteristics that makes a thing what it is) of God" thinking "his equality with God" not something to be g.asped onto, but emptying himself and becoming man (cf. Phil. 2:6-10). Paul assumes his readers already knew Jesus to be equal with God, the Father.
Jesus is referred to in the New Testament with the title Lord as it is uniquely applied to Yahweh in the Old Testament. Jesus calls himself "the Lord of the Sabbath" in Mark 2:28. The Sabbath is referred to as the "Sabbath of Yahweh" in the Old Testament (cf. Ex. 20:10; see also Is. 8:13, referred to in 1 Peter 3:15; and Joel 2:31-32, quoted both in Acts 2:20-21 and in Rom. 10:13).
The First and Last Point
The final proof of Jesus’ divinity we will consider can be found in the last two chapters of the book of Revelation. According to Revelation 21:6-7, Almighty God reveals himself to us in plain terms: "And he said to me, ‘It is done! I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. To the thirsty I will give from the fountain of the water of life without payment. He who conquers shall have this heritage, and I will be his God and he shall be my son.’"
But then, in Revelation 22:6, 13, 16, we find Jesus revealing himself to be "the Alpha and the Omega . . . the beginning and the end":
And he said to me, "These words are trustworthy and true. And the Lord, the God of the spirits of the prophets, has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place . . . I am the Alpha and the Omega, the first and the last, the beginning and the end . . . I Jesus have sent my angel to you with this testimony for the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star."
Jesus is God.
Jesus Is God
Tim Staples
November 02, 2008
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The divinity of Christ is an essential teaching of the Catholic faith. Indeed, any community of faith that would deny Christ’s deity ceases to be Christian at all. Yet, not a few quasi-Christian sects do just that—vehemently reject this central teaching. So how can Catholics present a cogent defense steeped in Scripture and faithful to magisterial teaching?
Greater Than and Equal To
In John 14:28, Jesus says, "The Father is greater than I." For many, this statement seems obvious: Jesus is not God. But is this really what our Lord was saying?
In Catholic theology, this text can be understood in two ways. First, being "greater" than another does not have to mean one is essentially different from the other, as when we say a man is essentially distinct from an animal. Greatness can refer to one person functioning in a greater way quantitatively, qualitatively, or even relationally in comparison to another without there being an essential distinction. For example, Matthew 11:11 tells us there has never "risen among [men] a greater than John the Baptist: yet he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he." John is not something other than human because he is said to be greater than certain other people. All human beings share the same nature; therefore, they are absolutely equal in dignity.
Similarly, the Father can be said to be greaterthan the Son pertaining to their relation within the inner life of God, but not with respect to their shared nature as being fully and equally God. The Father alone is the first principle of life in the Godhead; thus, the Catechism of the Catholic Church can say, in paragraph 246: "Everything that belongs to the Father, except being Father, the Son has also eternally from the Father, from whom he is eternally born . . ." (emphasis added). In this sense, the Father can be said to be greater than the Son relationally, while they are absolutely equal with regard to their essence as God.
Another—and perhaps simpler—way one can legitimately interpret this text is to point out that John 14:28 seems to be emphasizing the humanity of Christ. Thus, because Jesus is fully man, it would be appropriate to say the Father would be greater than the Son. The entire verse reads: "You heard me say to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I."
Jesus was emphasizing here and in previous verses his impending death, resurrection, and departure from the apostles. This would apply to his humanity most particularly. Thus, the same Jesus who can say, "I and the Father are one" in John 10:30—as God—can say, "The Father is greater than I" in John 14:28—as man.
Was Jesus Created?
Revelation 3:14 declares: "And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.’" Using these words, Jehovah’s Witnesses claim Jesus to be the first creation of Almighty God and therefore, not God. The only problem here is the actual text. The word translated "beginning" (Gk. arche) here actually means "source." In other words, it means "beginning" as in the first cause, not in the sense of being the "first effect." Arche is used as such elsewhere in the book of Revelation. In chapter 21, verse 6, Almighty God says: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end . . ." Do we want to say God was created because arche is used to describe him? By no means! Understood properly, Revelation 3:14 reveals Jesus to be the sourceof God’s creation—God himself. This fits perfectly with John’s christological declaration in John 1:1-3: the Word created "all things . . . and without him was made nothing that was made." If the Word was created, he would have had to create himself, which is absurd.
Colossians 1:15-17 reveals Jesus as the "first-born of every creature. For in him were all things created . . . he is before all and by him all things consist." Many make the mistake of concluding Jesus was created because he is called "first-born of every creature." One obvious problem here is born and createdhave very different definitions. Even when considering natural childbirth, we know a child does not come into being when he is born, but nine months earlier. Neither would Christ have "come into being" when he was begotten of the Father. Indeed, when Jesus is called first-born in Colossians, he is referred to as such before creation and time even existed. He was begotten from all eternity. As such, he would have never "come into being." Thus, we say in the Creed, Jesus was "begotten, not made, one in being with the Father." A second, related problem arises when one considers the title first-born. Even in its Old Testament usage, this title was not restricted to a sense of time. The emphasis was on a place of pre-eminence given by a father to his son. Isaac, Jacob, and Ephraim received the blessing of the first-born though they were not first-born in time.
But perhaps most important of all is the fact that the text simply does not say Jesus was created. If St. Paul were teaching Christ to have been created, he would have then had to refer to Christ as creator of all other things in verse 16, but he did not. (Jehovah’s Witnesses did add the word "other" here in Colossians 1:16 in their New World Translation—to make the text fit their doctrine.) Paul calls Jesus Creator of all things. Jesus is God.
Tim StaplesNovember 02, 2008
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The divinity of Christ is an essential teaching of the Catholic faith. Indeed, any community of faith that would deny Christ’s deity ceases to be Christian at all. Yet, not a few quasi-Christian sects do just that—vehemently reject this central teaching. So how can Catholics present a cogent defense steeped in Scripture and faithful to magisterial teaching?
Greater Than and Equal To
In John 14:28, Jesus says, "The Father is greater than I." For many, this statement seems obvious: Jesus is not God. But is this really what our Lord was saying?
In Catholic theology, this text can be understood in two ways. First, being "greater" than another does not have to mean one is essentially different from the other, as when we say a man is essentially distinct from an animal. Greatness can refer to one person functioning in a greater way quantitatively, qualitatively, or even relationally in comparison to another without there being an essential distinction. For example, Matthew 11:11 tells us there has never "risen among [men] a greater than John the Baptist: yet he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he." John is not something other than human because he is said to be greater than certain other people. All human beings share the same nature; therefore, they are absolutely equal in dignity.
Similarly, the Father can be said to be greaterthan the Son pertaining to their relation within the inner life of God, but not with respect to their shared nature as being fully and equally God. The Father alone is the first principle of life in the Godhead; thus, the Catechism of the Catholic Church can say, in paragraph 246: "Everything that belongs to the Father, except being Father, the Son has also eternally from the Father, from whom he is eternally born . . ." (emphasis added). In this sense, the Father can be said to be greater than the Son relationally, while they are absolutely equal with regard to their essence as God.
Another—and perhaps simpler—way one can legitimately interpret this text is to point out that John 14:28 seems to be emphasizing the humanity of Christ. Thus, because Jesus is fully man, it would be appropriate to say the Father would be greater than the Son. The entire verse reads: "You heard me say to you, ‘I go away, and I will come to you.’ If you loved me, you would have rejoiced, because I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I."
Jesus was emphasizing here and in previous verses his impending death, resurrection, and departure from the apostles. This would apply to his humanity most particularly. Thus, the same Jesus who can say, "I and the Father are one" in John 10:30—as God—can say, "The Father is greater than I" in John 14:28—as man.
Was Jesus Created?
Revelation 3:14 declares: "And to the angel of the church in Laodicea write: ‘The words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of God’s creation.’" Using these words, Jehovah’s Witnesses claim Jesus to be the first creation of Almighty God and therefore, not God. The only problem here is the actual text. The word translated "beginning" (Gk. arche) here actually means "source." In other words, it means "beginning" as in the first cause, not in the sense of being the "first effect." Arche is used as such elsewhere in the book of Revelation. In chapter 21, verse 6, Almighty God says: "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end . . ." Do we want to say God was created because arche is used to describe him? By no means! Understood properly, Revelation 3:14 reveals Jesus to be the sourceof God’s creation—God himself. This fits perfectly with John’s christological declaration in John 1:1-3: the Word created "all things . . . and without him was made nothing that was made." If the Word was created, he would have had to create himself, which is absurd.
Colossians 1:15-17 reveals Jesus as the "first-born of every creature. For in him were all things created . . . he is before all and by him all things consist." Many make the mistake of concluding Jesus was created because he is called "first-born of every creature." One obvious problem here is born and createdhave very different definitions. Even when considering natural childbirth, we know a child does not come into being when he is born, but nine months earlier. Neither would Christ have "come into being" when he was begotten of the Father. Indeed, when Jesus is called first-born in Colossians, he is referred to as such before creation and time even existed. He was begotten from all eternity. As such, he would have never "come into being." Thus, we say in the Creed, Jesus was "begotten, not made, one in being with the Father." A second, related problem arises when one considers the title first-born. Even in its Old Testament usage, this title was not restricted to a sense of time. The emphasis was on a place of pre-eminence given by a father to his son. Isaac, Jacob, and Ephraim received the blessing of the first-born though they were not first-born in time.
But perhaps most important of all is the fact that the text simply does not say Jesus was created. If St. Paul were teaching Christ to have been created, he would have then had to refer to Christ as creator of all other things in verse 16, but he did not. (Jehovah’s Witnesses did add the word "other" here in Colossians 1:16 in their New World Translation—to make the text fit their doctrine.) Paul calls Jesus Creator of all things. Jesus is God.
jayendecastro
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How old is the bible nga ba?? And why madame kulang kulang na books dun...
Lahat ng tanong mo nasagot ko nga pero sinasabi mo na hindi kopa nasagut ngayun alam ko na bakit hindi mo makita sagut ko dalawang bagay lang yan kaya hindi mo maintindihan sagot ko yung isa baka hindi ka nakapag aral o naka graduate kaya nahihirapan ka maka intindi pangalawa hindi ka marunong ma englishMay Allah guide us
May allah guide you pati na nyu mga mamatay tao na islam mga terroristang kapatid nyu na pumapatay ng libong libong tao at sa mga manyak na nag aasawa ng apat na babae
Di ba sir,itinuturo sa trinity na pantay-pantay ang tatlong persona na yan?
Pano to sir,
Jn.14:28 Narinig ninyo kung paanong sinabi ko sa inyo, Papanaw ako, at paririto ako sa inyo. Kung ako'y inyong iniibig, kayo'y mangagagalak, dahil sa ako'y pasasa Ama: sapagka't ang Ama ay lalong dakila kay sa akin.
Bakit sinabi ni kristo na mas dakila ang Ama kaysa sa ksnya kung pantay lang pala sila.
Maraming contradict kasi hindi nyu naiintindihan ibig sabihin ang na iintindi nyu yun
Violence of quran
And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution is worse than slaughter... and fight them until fitnah is no more, and religion is for Allah.
— Quran 2:191
Quran 9:5
But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful
…And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him…
— Quran 22:40
AND more...
Kaya pla maraming terrorista na muslim(not all) tinuturo pla ng quran
Quran ten commandment are same as christian? If yes why slay people dahil sa ten commandments bawal pumatay ng tao
Eto guys analogy ah. Si satan lang kasi yung gusto ma exalt sarili niya above God. Puro siya I. The character of God is sharing. Kaya nga nag risk si God i padala niya Son niya eh. The Son was present too during the days of creation. Sinabi dun Let Us make man our image. So Jesus was present during thr first day of creation.
The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands. John 3:35
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Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Matthew 28:18
So kung isipin mo tatay mk matanda na pinamana na lahat ng business niya sayo kasi my tiwala siya sayo at mahal ka niya
Ganun rin si God the father. Aa long as we belive that jesus is our personal savior. Na only thru his blood we will be saved di na issue wether. Sino mas mataas dahil si Jesus lagi nagpapakumbaba like yung ginawa niya dito sa earth which is go serve.
What a wonderful God we have. Who is willing to share us his inheritance in heaven inspite of us being sinners
The Father loves the Son and has placed everything in his hands. John 3:35
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Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Matthew 28:18
So kung isipin mo tatay mk matanda na pinamana na lahat ng business niya sayo kasi my tiwala siya sayo at mahal ka niya
Ganun rin si God the father. Aa long as we belive that jesus is our personal savior. Na only thru his blood we will be saved di na issue wether. Sino mas mataas dahil si Jesus lagi nagpapakumbaba like yung ginawa niya dito sa earth which is go serve.
What a wonderful God we have. Who is willing to share us his inheritance in heaven inspite of us being sinners
Yes naiiba, hindi lang minsan. madaming words ang hebrew na hindi kaya i-translate nang exact in english or any other language. also compare different version of translation of bible. nakalimutan ko ung verse pero it goes something like this, "resist the temptation" while in other translation or version "flee from temptation". they are very different. i prefer the latter. nkjv."MINSAN" hmmmmm???
Really ? Sis pasintabi lang po makasabat? Nalang po sa sinabi mong hindi sya dios? dyos po sya Nagakakamali ka ng pagkaunawa mo Una po sa lahat anak sya ng dios at syay bugtong na anak ng dios ipinanganak sya mismo ?
Basahin po natin
Sa hula sa awit
Mga Awit 2:7
[7]Aking sasaysayin ang tungkol sa pasiya: sinabi ng Panginoon sa akin, Ikaw ay aking anak; sa araw na ito ay ipinanganak kita.
So ipininganak na sya right?
Ang tanong saan sya pinanganak ng dios?
Ayon sa pangitain o hula ni Juan sa
Juan 1:18
[18]Walang taong nakakita kailan man sa Dios; ang bugtong na Anak, na nasa sinapupunan ng Ama, siya ang nagpakilala sa kanya.
Oh ayan pala na sa mismong sinapupunan pala ng dios ng ipinanganak si cristo ng dios
Take note : sa salitang (walang taong nakikita kailanman sa dios?) dyan palang Dina Tao si cristo kasi walang Tao kailanman nakakita sa dios meaning at logically speaking ang Tao nilikha sa alabok ng lupa mababasa natin yan sa Genesis 2:7 so ang cristo pala ipinanganak ng dios na syang nakakita sa dios ama
Another proof bago pa nga lalangin ang mundo or the word was meron na syang kaluwalhatian natamo sa dios ama mababasa natin yan sa
Juan 17:5
[5]At ngayon, Ama, luwalhatiin mo ako sa iyo rin ng kaluwalhatiang aking tinamo sa iyo bago ang sanglibutan ay naging gayon.
Kaya pala mababasa sa karunungan ng dios sa
Mga Kawikaan 30:4-5
[4]Sino ang sumampa sa langit, at bumaba? Sino ang pumisan ng hangin sa kaniyang mga dakot? Sinong nagtali ng tubig sa kaniyang kasuutan? Sinong nagtatag ng lahat ng mga wakas ng lupa? Ano ang kaniyang pangalan, at ano ang pangalan ng kaniyang anak kung iyong nalalaman?
[5]Bawa't salita ng Dios ay subok: siya'y kalasag sa kanila, na nanganganlong sa kaniya.
Logically and biblically speaking si lord jesus pala yan so Dina Tao si cristo syay dios
So ayun pala kaya pala nang mangaral ang cristo sa dito sa lupa salita rin pala ng dios yun ng sinabi ng dios Kay moses na mababasa natin sa
Deuteronomio 18:18-19
[18]Aking palilitawin sa kanila ang isang propeta sa gitna ng kanilang mga kapatid, na gaya mo; at aking ilalagay ang aking mga salita sa bibig niya, at kaniyang sasalitain sa kanila ang lahat ng aking iuutos sa kaniya.
[19]At mangyayari, na sinomang hindi makikinig sa aking mga salita na kaniyang sasalitain sa aking pangalan, ay aking sisiyasatin yaon sa kaniya.
Takenote: pala kaya ng pagpasok ng cristo dito sa mundo ipinaghanda ng sya ng dios ama ng katawan na syang ipinaglihi ni maria sa pamamagitan ng espirito santo
Mababasa natin yan
Mga Hebreo 10:5
[5]Kaya't pagpasok niya sa sanglibutan, ay sinasabi, Hain at handog ay hindi mo ibig. Nguni't isang katawan ang sa akin ay inihanda mo;
Take note sa salitang (pagpasok niya sa sanglibutan ) ang tinutukoy dyan ang panginoong jesucristo na pinaghanda na ng dios ng katawan at sa salitang (pagpasok) (logically speaking) meaning di sya nagumpisa or umiral sa sanlibutan (meaning dyan palang dina sya tao kasi ang tao nilikha mismo ng dios mula sa alabok ng lupa Genesis 2:7) bagkus pumasok lang sya sa sanlibutan at pinaghanda lang sya ng dios ng katawan na syang pinaglihi ni maria
Queation: bakit meron nababasang syay anak ng tao? I read this article
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Ang ang sino mang magsabi na ang panginoong hesus na tao taong nagmula dito sa sanlibutan ay isang anticristo
Kasi ang nag hindi sasabing ang panginoon hesus ay napariritong nasa laman anti-cristo pala yun! Katakot naman pala
II Juan 1:7
[7]Sapagka't maraming magdaraya na nangagsilitaw sa sanglibutan, sa makatuwid ay ang mga hindi nangagpapahayag na si Jesucristo ay napariritong nasa laman. Ito ang magdaraya at ang anticristo.
Kaya pala ng sinabing pagpasok nya na kasi nga di sya umiral sa sanlibutan bagkus pumasok lang sya dito kasi bago pa ang salibutan ay naging gayon may kaluwalhatian na syang natamo sa dios bilang bugtong na anak nya
Kaya po di po sya tao kundi sya'y DIOS na bugtong na anak ng dios ama bilang patunay
Mababasa po natin yan sa
Mga Kawikaan 8:22-30
[22]Inari ako ng Panginoon sa pasimula ng kaniyang lakad, bago pinasimulan ang kaniyang mga gawa ng una.
[23]Ako'y nalagay mula noong araw mula ng walang pasimula, bago nalikha ang lupa.
[24]Ako'y nailabas ng wala pang mga kalaliman; nang wala pang mga bukal na sagana ng tubig.
[25]Bago ang mga bundok ay nalagay, bago ang mga burol ay ako'y nailabas:
[26]Samantalang hindi pa niya nililikha ang lupa, ni ang mga parang man, ni ang pasimula man ng alabok ng sanglibutan.
[27]Nang kaniyang itatag ang langit nandoon ako: nang siya'y maglagay ng balantok sa balat ng kalaliman:
[28]Nang kaniyang pagtibayin ang langit sa itaas: nang maging matibay ang mga bukal ng kalaliman:
[29]Nang bigyan niya ang dagat ng kaniyang hangganan, upang huwag salangsangin ng tubig ang kaniyang utos: nang kaniyang iayos ang mga patibayan ng lupa:
[30]Nasa siping nga niya ako na gaya ng matalinong manggagawa: at ako ang kaniyang ligaya sa araw-araw, na nagagalak na lagi sa harap niya;
Kaya ang lahat ng bagay ginawa sa pamamagitan nya
Juan 1:3-4
[3]Ang lahat ng mga bagay ay ginawa sa pamamagitan niya; at alin man sa lahat ng ginawa ay hindi ginawa kung wala siya.
[4]Nasa kaniya ang buhay; at ang buhay ay siyang ilaw ng mga tao.
(ginawa ng dios ang lahat ng bagay dahil sa (kaniyang bugtong na anak ang panginoong hesus) )
Yan po salamat i'll think di ito complete info kung may kulang man paki sabi nalang or panote narin because i'm seeker to learn about true faith of god thru the scripture salamat po
Ito padagdag narin panuorin ninyo ng nag ask ang isang inc member about kung tao si ba si cristo? Ayun sa sagot Kay bro. Eli soriano
Napaganda po ng sagot clearly logically and biblically speaking bro eli is right!
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kung nagtatanong kayo bat imahe ni Jesus Christ yung sinasamba ng mga tao but hindi yung God the Father, 1 fact is we don't know the image of God the Father so how can you worship him?? di naman pwede na gagawa ka ng imahe ng God mo kung di mo sya nakikita right? kaya nga yung iba na religion na iba ang paniniwala iba2 yung imahe ng God nila, which maybe gawagawa lang rin nila like buddha and other stone images. Dahil si Cristo ay said to be the Son of God so therefore we make him as a ressemblance of God, which also we believes that God the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit as also said to be one in what we called Trinity. common sense nalang po bat ito yung paniniwala natin.
GulaManYOW
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Di na tayo aalis sa sinabi, ang rebulto ni Jesus ay nag siya mismo ang sinisimbolo, marami tayong kasabihan katulad nalang pag may patay?
Isipin mo bat mo aalayan ng bulaklak pagkain at titirikan ng kandila ang isang libingan? sa tingim mo sa ginagawa natin pagaalay isa bayung pagsamba? o pagalala sa namatay?
katulad din ni Jesus ang rebulto nya, ito ay nag sisilbing pag alala kay jesus sa mga salita nya.
Just to clear na hindi sila sumasamba sa rebulto, ang rebulto ay sumisimbolo sa pag alala lamang.
And also lets balikan natin ang sinabi
"Huwag kang gagawa para sa iyo ng larawang inanyuan o ng kawangis man ng anomang anyong nasa itaas sa langit, o ng nasa ibaba sa lupa, o ng nasa tubig sa ilalim ng lupa:
It means wag na wag kang gagawa ng imahe iba sa dyos halimbawa ng hayop na ginto, anito at anu pamang di naayon sa kautusan ngunit nasabi ba na di pwedeng gumawa ng revulto ne Jesus? Ang Krus? na nag simbolo ng kanyang kamatayan para mahugasan ang ating kasalanan.
Sa muli wala sa ating nakakaalam ng tunay na kasagutan kundi sa pananampalataya tayo bumase
Kung ang iyong paniniwala at pananampalataya ay malakas maliligtas ka mag tiwala sa panginoon, sa ngalan ng AMA na nasalangit sa pangalan ni Jesus
Isipin mo bat mo aalayan ng bulaklak pagkain at titirikan ng kandila ang isang libingan? sa tingim mo sa ginagawa natin pagaalay isa bayung pagsamba? o pagalala sa namatay?
katulad din ni Jesus ang rebulto nya, ito ay nag sisilbing pag alala kay jesus sa mga salita nya.
Just to clear na hindi sila sumasamba sa rebulto, ang rebulto ay sumisimbolo sa pag alala lamang.
And also lets balikan natin ang sinabi
"Huwag kang gagawa para sa iyo ng larawang inanyuan o ng kawangis man ng anomang anyong nasa itaas sa langit, o ng nasa ibaba sa lupa, o ng nasa tubig sa ilalim ng lupa:
It means wag na wag kang gagawa ng imahe iba sa dyos halimbawa ng hayop na ginto, anito at anu pamang di naayon sa kautusan ngunit nasabi ba na di pwedeng gumawa ng revulto ne Jesus? Ang Krus? na nag simbolo ng kanyang kamatayan para mahugasan ang ating kasalanan.
Sa muli wala sa ating nakakaalam ng tunay na kasagutan kundi sa pananampalataya tayo bumase
Kung ang iyong paniniwala at pananampalataya ay malakas maliligtas ka mag tiwala sa panginoon, sa ngalan ng AMA na nasalangit sa pangalan ni Jesus
mavixrange
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That's what you called Cognitive Dissonance. Even though they were aware of it, still the majority rules even though it's not right. Because everyone says that it gives them blessing or healing or whatever, most of the people tend to believe it rather than despise that kind of idolatry.
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