🕯️ Traditions What is atheism - a common misconception

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which came first, the claim that god exist or atheism? your implying that atheism claimed no god exist as if independent to the god claim, if the god claim didn't exist, atheism wouldn't exist.


I'm sorry, let me rephrase it, when you say no god exist or dont believe that god exist thats a claim which carries the burden of prof.
from the history of mankind, human already have a concept of a perfect being even before the holy scriptures were not been written. Did someone tell them? No they already have that knowledge from when they born. You can imply the ideology of rationalism here. So theist claims about God is the first one.

The reason why some people are questioning about God existence are:
First when human suffered from many kinds of problems, and disasters. There is no God, if God exist life must be perfect.
second when science evidences discredited creationism. (well for atheist)
there is more reason why atheist exist. I stated those two because those are the most common.

Now what is the reason you became atheist? If your reason is in those two meaning you're standing in a belief that God didnt exist because of this and that. conclusion? You used that reason to "claim" that there is no God.
 
Yon nga may rason bakit siya naging athiest at bakit niya kinukwestyon ang thiest sa god existence may rason sa pagiging athiest ng isang tao, at ang rason na iyon ang dapat niya rin patunayan
 
Well there is no specific evidence of God existence but there are indirect evidences about God existence.

Atheist is a belief meaning you claimed that there is no God. From what I know "a" means "no" "theos" means God. As simple as that, you cannot say "atheist dont believe in God=false because it is contradicting in the term atheist.
Let me correct you a bit. What's the difference between the words 'asocial' vs 'antisocial'? The word asocial is pertaining to a person or a character that is simply not inclined into social gatherings or masses of people. It does not imply that an asocial person is someone who is hateful to or against society. However, an antisocial is.
 
from the history of mankind, human already have a concept of a perfect being even before the holy scriptures were not been written. Did someone tell them? No they already have that knowledge from when they born. You can imply the ideology of rationalism here. So theist claims about God is the first one.

The reason why some people are questioning about God existence are:
First when human suffered from many kinds of problems, and disasters. There is no God, if God exist life must be perfect.
second when science evidences discredited creationism. (well for atheist)
there is more reason why atheist exist. I stated those two because those are the most common.

Now what is the reason you became atheist? If your reason is in those two meaning you're standing in a belief that God didnt exist because of this and that. conclusion? You used that reason to "claim" that there is no God.
no, the reason I'm an athiest is because someone told me that god exist and I questioned it, the answer was not convincing
humans feared nature because they did not understand it at that time and created a higher being , zues for example.

so am I standing on a belief that god didn't exist? or I wasn't convinced that your claim is believable.
First when human suffered from many kinds of problems, and disasters. There is no God, if God exist life must be perfect.
and it still revolves around the idea of a god.
 
from the history of mankind, human already have a concept of a perfect being even before the holy scriptures were not been written. Did someone tell them? No they already have that knowledge from when they born. You can imply the ideology of rationalism here. So theist claims about God is the first one.

The reason why some people are questioning about God existence are:
First when human suffered from many kinds of problems, and disasters. There is no God, if God exist life must be perfect.
second when science evidences discredited creationism. (well for atheist)
there is more reason why atheist exist. I stated those two because those are the most common.

Now what is the reason you became atheist? If your reason is in those two meaning you're standing in a belief that God didnt exist because of this and that. conclusion? You used that reason to "claim" that there is no God.
Here's my take on this.

Theism came first. Mankind always have the instinct to try to understand and explain the things that are going on around them.

It always have been a question of WHY, WHAT, HOW, etc and they wanted to fill in those blanks.

They turn to nature, wat they can readily observe. As they cant have a definite understanding of everything they went beyond nature and turned to the "supernatural" and later on to a god. So there was a gap in mankind's limited knowledge and they filled that gap with god.

The questions are are still echoing generations after generations and since no better explanation was discovered, mankind began to accept the "god-filler" as truth.

A lot have happend since then. Better and definite answers have been discovered giving less and less credit to the god claim.

Its more than a tragedy or a life of struggles that turns believers into non-believers...but that can be a spark. As they seek to find answers they just grew further and further away .while for some...they cudve been always skeptic and such an event cudve been the affirmation of their skepticism..

Or there cud've been none at all..and its just that logic cant seem to connect to the dots to make a valid argument to believe.
 
If an atheist 100 percent dont believe in God or they believe that there is no God, why argue for something you dont believe in. In my conclusion atheist deep inside them believe that there still a God, why would argue for something you dont believe in. Why not just mind their own beliefs right?
 
If an atheist 100 percent dont believe in God or they believe that there is no God, why argue for something you dont believe in. In my conclusion atheist deep inside them believe that there still a God, why would argue for something you dont believe in. Why not just mind their own beliefs right?
Tapos nagpaparatang pa ng kung anu ano sa isang entity na sinasabi nilang di nag eexist, di nga nag eexist eh tas paparatangan mo ng kung anu ano? Ano lokohan?
 
If an atheist 100 percent dont believe in God or they believe that there is no God, why argue for something you dont believe in. In my conclusion atheist deep inside them believe that there still a God, why would argue for something you dont believe in. Why not just mind their own beliefs right?
If you truly believe that your god is all-good, all-merciful, all-loving and all that all-, why do you still have to flaunt? If your god is what you think he/she is, then why the need for praises, worships and most of all ask for FORGIVENESS?
 
no it cant be translated as rejecting god, the god claim doesn't meet the burden of proof therefore it cant be considered as true thats why I reject it.

denying the god in the god claim means the claim is proven true therefore god exist and still rejecting god.
Actually sir, The Bible already said the truth about God. You cannot understand what tge bible says if you dont have faith on it. The Bible is the truth and the proof that God exist but the atheist reject this truth/proof. Everything in the universe that existed are not an accident existing so therefore, their is someone who created it and the atheist denies this truth.
 
If you trust in god and in all his positive traits, why flaunt? Why praise, why ask for forgiveness.

No, it wouldn't benefit me and you don't have to answer me.

Why do you want to know, are you still not confident enough on your own beliefs thats why you ask? Why bother in the first place?
 
Actually sir, The Bible already said the truth about God. You cannot understand what tge bible says if you dont have faith on it. The Bible is the truth and the proof that God exist but the atheist reject this truth/proof. Everything in the universe that existed are not an accident existing so therefore, their is someone who created it and the atheist denies this truth.
PREAMBLE: I'm not an atheist per se.

So the bible is the truth??? What can you say about other theist books like, qu'ran, tripitaka, vedas etc? They are... NOT THE TRUTH?
 
Why do you want to know, are you still not confident enough on your own beliefs thats why you ask? Why bother in the first place?
Why you bother, are you not confident enough and not happy enough that you still need to plaster all this religious crap all over the internet?
 
Actually sir, The Bible already said the truth about God. You cannot understand what tge bible says if you dont have faith on it. The Bible is the truth and the proof that God exist but the atheist reject this truth/proof. Everything in the universe that existed are not an accident existing so therefore, their is someone who created it and the atheist denies this truth.
then anything is true as long as you have faith on it even if its false.
 
If an atheist 100 percent dont believe in God or they believe that there is no God, why argue for something you dont believe in. In my conclusion atheist deep inside them believe that there still a God, why would argue for something you dont believe in. Why not just mind their own beliefs right?
Tapos nagpaparatang pa ng kung anu ano sa isang entity na sinasabi nilang di nag eexist, di nga nag eexist eh tas paparatangan mo ng kung anu ano? Ano lokohan?
Like your not so critical of your co-theists who happens to believe in another god/s other than your "perfect" one.

You cant even agree on the meaning of one book.

And like your so welcoming to people of science when they present evidence opposing your supposedly "word of god".... Wats the name of that "heretic" who said that the sun was the center and not the earth as god-loving used to believe?

Oh..you dont just do that to science btw, you also do that to other "gospels" because they dont seem to align to your god's "good" character.

So dont say to just leave you to your beliefs, do that shit yourself.
 
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