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YOU SAYING:
- ang equality is kalokohan ang mga tao di pantay pantay iba iba tayo
- eh bob0 ka pala eh.. ang sabi pag mahirap di pwedeng gawing bondservent dahil ang bondservant MAY SALA ang hired servant WALA.
39 And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee; thou shalt not compel him to serve as a bondservant:
40 But as an hired servant, and as a sojourner, he shall be with thee, and shall serve thee unto the year of jubile
- ang pinag ka iba lang nila ung isa may sala ung isa wala. pero pareho silang servants
- di pwedeng gawing bondservent dahil ang bondservant MAY SALA ang hired servant WALA
- so bat dalawa lang ung type ng servant AKA slave dito?
hired servant lang at bondservant? wahaha


VERSUS YOU SAYING:
"So for you same ang heirarchy ng SLAVES at SERVANTS?? YES OR NO."
- YES. biblically speaking


-WAG KA MAG PALUSOT UNG TINATANONG KO IS SA BIBLE KUNG ANG SERVANT AT SLAVE IISA LANG ANG MEANING
ang sagot dun oo.


YOU SAYING:
-daming tao gusto ibahin ang meaning ng isang word halatang may agenda lang ung mga un eh
VERSUS YOU SAYING:
-ang slavery hanggang ngayon ng yayari parin iniba lang ang term para di masakit sa tenga it's called employment na ngayon. ang meaning ng slavery is to serve others.
Slavery
servitude,bondage
Slavery refers to a condition in which individuals are owned by others, who control where they live and at what they work. Slavery had previously existed throughout history, in many times and most places.


- Doulos original meaning using the New Testament Greek Lexicon ... bond-servant 11, bond-servants 12, bondslave 3, bondslaves


LAST SAY KO NA AT NAKAKAUTA KA NA KAUSAP.


DOULOS means SLAVES/BONDSERVANTS
SLAVES are OWNED like u described.
HIRED SERVANTS are, well, HIRED.


Israelites can only take other israelites as "HIRED" servants and not as "BOND" servants.


Foreigners/heathens can be taken as "BOND" servants.


Lastly...to quote ung KJV na fave mo.
And if thy brother that dwelleth by thee be waxen poor, and be sold unto thee; thou shalt not compel him to serve as a bondservant: BUT as an hired servant, and as a sojourner, he shall be with thee, and shall serve thee unto the year of jubile. And then shall he depart from thee, both he and his children with him, and shall return unto his own family, and unto the possession of his fathers shall he return. For they are my servants, which I brought forth out of the land of Egypt: they shall not be sold as bondmen.


"BUT"


"shalt not compel him to serve as a bondservant: BUT as an hired servant, and as a sojourner"


KINOKONTRAST ANG BONDSERVANT (which u described as slave) AGAINST HIRED SERVANT.


IF FEELING MO NA "SLAVE" KA SA CALL CENTER NG BOSS MO THEN HE OWNS YOU AND HE CONTROLS YOU AND WHAT WORK YOU WILL DO. KAHIT PAGLINISIN KA NG POOP NEA EH DI KA PWEDE MAGREKLAMO KASI SIYA ANG MAY CONTROL SA TRABAHO MO.


PERO KUNG "HIRED" AGENT KA LANG NEA THEN DI KA NEA PWEDE PAGAWIN NG ANO ANO NA OUTSIDE SA WORK MO BILANG ISANG AGENT.


KUNG UTUSAN KA NEA PAGLINISIN POOP NEA


HINDI "YES MASTER" ANG SAGOT MO


SAGOT MO "IM A CALL CENTER AGENT BUT IM NOT A CLEANER OF YOUR SH*T"


CALL CENTER KA PA NAMAN...EVEN ANG ISANG TAO NA MAY DECENT EDUCATION ALAM ANG DIPERENSYA NG "SLAVE" SA "SERVANT", NG "ALILA" SA "TAGAPAGLINGKOD". AT ALAM DIN NILA ANG IBIG SABIHIN PAG MAY WORD NA "BUT" BETWEEN TWO PHRASES OR IDEAS.


DONE NA KO SA KABABAAN NG LOGIC MO.


*micdrop

homer_simpson wag na wag mo to aayain sa INC ha 😒 hahahaha
 
Lets-All-Love-Lain said:
bob0 matagal ko na sinabi sayo na umikot ang mundo sa slave master relationship kung di ka t@nga at di ka nag b-backread. napaka bob0 mong may GOD COMPLEX ka kase kang ungas ka. lol.

gusto mo pantay pantay kung di ka t@nga kaya di mo kinikilala na may diyos ako nga nag sabi na meron tayong hierarchy kang bugok ka.

sabi ko meron tayong pecking order kung di ka ungas. pero in the end lahat tayo ay slaves AKA servant ng diyos.

at oo bob0 ka, ang BOSS meaning to say is the CEO or OM kung di ka t@nga bob0 na di marunong umintindi ng social hierarchy kung di ka t@nga at makitid ang pag iisip. at OO pwede gawin ng CEO lahat ng gusto nya kung gusto ka nyang tanggalin OO pwede nyang gawin bob0 MR.CIVIL SERVANT kahit ung pinaka mataas sa inyo PWEDE KA TANGGALIN NG ONE CLICK LANG BOB0. at kung di ka t@nga ang ibang superior sa isang working environment may restriction kung di ka tang@ dahil di sila nasa pinaka taas ng hierarchy Bob0! eaxmple un ung TL mo may restriction sya dahil sya may amo na mas mataas sakanya bob0 parang ladder ka nyan kung di ka t@nga.

kung IN lang ung salitang MASTER NGAYON ayun ung gagamitin ko BOb0 kaso hindi eh. lol.

at sabi ko nga SLAVE tayo ng mga MAGULANG NATIN DAHIL. at SLAVE din ang MAGULANG natin satin dahil. na taint na ung MASTER na word dahil sa pinag gagawa ng mga european at american people na MAJORITY IS ATHIEST kaya dun ka lagi kumukuha ng idea.lol. isipin mo ung mga SLAVE TRADER DATI majority athiest na ngayon wahaha.

example ito ah.

you are servants of your child because you serve theme with all your heart

you serve your parents when they get old because you bound to do this because they serve you when you were young.

you need to serve other people in your work in exchange for money.

YAN UNG ISABI KO NG NAKARAAN BOb0

at ang sabi ko bob0 ka may condition un kung di ka t@nga ang hired servant walang sala ang bondservant meron pero exclusive ung sa mga bata Bob0!

Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46 And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour

walang sinabi na matatanda dyan CHILDREN children ang sinabi bob0! sa children lang ng forever bondmen bob0

kung di ka t@nga sojourner means na walang fix na tirahan at kung t@nga ka means palaboy labot tawag dun bob0

at ang stranger di foreigner un kung di ka t@nga ibang tribo un pag sabihin nun bob0 dahil di lang si LEVI ang israelita kung di ka bob0 at wala alam 12 un bob0!

Twelve Tribes of Israel, in the Bible, the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. people who, after the death of Moses, took possession of the Promised Land of Canaan under the leadership of Joshua. Because the tribes were named after sons or grandsons of You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., whose name was changed to Israel after he wrestled an angel of the Lord, the Hebrew people became known as Israelites.

Jacob’s first wife, Leah, bore him six sons: You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., Levi, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Each was the father of a You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., though Levi’s descendants (among whom were Moses and Aaron), the priests and temple functionaries, were dispersed among the other tribes and received no tribal land of their own. Two other tribes, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., were named after sons born to Jacob and Zilpah, Leah’s maidservant. Two additional tribes, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., were named after sons of Jacob born of Bilhah, the maidservant of Rachel, Jacob’s second wife. Rachel bore Jacob two sons, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. The tribe of Benjamin provided Israel with its first king, Saul, and was later You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. into the tribe of Judah. While no tribe bore the name of Joseph, two tribes were named after Joseph’s sons, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. The 10 tribes that settled in northern Palestine and were carried into captivity by the Assyrians became known as the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..


t@nga mo! bawal incest sa bible bob0.

tsaka ung brother means kadugo/ka tribo mo bob0!

palibasa msama kasi utak mo kaya masama rin pag basa mo sa BIBLE ka di nakakapag taka na BABOY LUMALABAS SA PAG IISIP MO.

DI TAYO PANTAY PANTAY BOb0 MR.CIVIL SERVANT kaya ung GOD COMPLEX MO DI UUBRA DITO. lol.
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But...... 😁


Lol...u..lol

Dinagdag mo pa pati incest. 😁
 
KuyangXD said:
Atheist dont believe in God = false? parang may mali?
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when you say you dont believe in god then you are making a claim therefore you have the burden of prof,
saying you dont believe in the god claim is implying that the claim has not met the burden of prof.
 
kaya naman pala umiiwas ka na mahingian ng prof. kasi alam mong wala naman talagang specific evidence na nag papatunay na wala talagang diyos.

Pag nasa isang side ka ibig sabihin may belief ka na tinitindigan hindi pwedeng wala. Kaya kung atheist ka you meaning hindi ka naniniala sa Diyos. maniwala pa ako sayo kung agnostic ka kasi nasa gitna lang sila. Natural na wala silang claim dahil hindi talaga nila alam kung saan sila pupunta.
 
KuyangXD said:
kaya naman pala umiiwas ka na mahingian ng prof. kasi alam mong wala naman talagang specific evidence na nag papatunay na wala talagang diyos.

Pag nasa isang side ka ibig sabihin may belief ka na tinitindigan hindi pwedeng wala. Kaya kung atheist ka you meaning hindi ka naniniala sa Diyos. maniwala pa ako sayo kung agnostic ka kasi nasa gitna lang sila. Natural na wala silang claim dahil hindi talaga nila alam kung saan sila pupunta.
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not my problem, your shifting the burden of prof, alam mo din na wala naman talagang specific evidence na nag papatunay na may diyos.

I know where I stand therefore I am an atheist, the god claim is not falsifiable therefore it cannot be proven true or false. hindi ko na problima yun, you claimed that god exist, I'm saying prove it, thats why I'm considered as an Atheist.
 
JackFrost10 said:
when you say you dont believe in god then you are making a claim therefore you have the burden of prof,
saying you dont believe in the god claim is implying that the claim has not met the burden of prof.
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I have to disagree with this one, for me the "not believing" position regardless of the topic is, is the default position and it isnt a claim. As information comes in then that's the time when our position can shift to something else or remain the same depending on the evidence presented.

It someone tells me that they believe, they have to present to me their reasoning that lead them to that position. And i therefore can breakdown their arguments and test if it will stick.
 
KuyangXD said:
kaya naman pala umiiwas ka na mahingian ng prof. kasi alam mong wala naman talagang specific evidence na nag papatunay na wala talagang diyos.

Pag nasa isang side ka ibig sabihin may belief ka na tinitindigan hindi pwedeng wala. Kaya kung atheist ka you meaning hindi ka naniniala sa Diyos. maniwala pa ako sayo kung agnostic ka kasi nasa gitna lang sila. Natural na wala silang claim dahil hindi talaga nila alam kung saan sila pupunta.
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Agnostism is about the knowledge.
Theism/Atheism is about the belief.

U can be an agnostic and be a theist or atheist at the same time.
 
JackFrost10 said:
not my problem, your shifting the burden of prof, alam mo din na wala naman talagang specific evidence na nag papatunay na may diyos.

I know where I stand therefore I am an atheist, the god claim is not falsifiable therefore it cannot be proven true or false. hindi ko na problima yun, you claimed that god exist, I'm saying prove it, thats why I'm considered as an Atheist.
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Well there is no specific evidence of God existence but there are indirect evidences about God existence.

Atheist is a belief meaning you claimed that there is no God. From what I know "a" means "no" "theos" means God. As simple as that, you cannot say "atheist dont believe in God=false because it is contradicting in the term atheist.
 
KuyangXD said:
Well there is no specific evidence of God existence but there are indirect evidences about God existence.

Atheist is a belief meaning you claimed that there is no God. From what I know "a" means "no" "theos" means God. As simple as that, you cannot say "atheist dont believe in God=false because it is contradicting in the term atheist.
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which came first, the claim that god exist or atheism? your implying that atheism claimed no god exist as if independent to the god claim, if the god claim didn't exist, atheism wouldn't exist.

jayendecastro said:
I have to disagree with this one, for me the "not believing" position regardless of the topic is, is the default position and it isnt a claim. As information comes in then that's the time when our position can shift to something else or remain the same depending on the evidence presented.

It someone tells me that they believe, they have to present to me their reasoning that lead them to that position. And i therefore can breakdown their arguments and test if it will stick.
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I'm sorry, let me rephrase it, when you say no god exist or dont believe that god exist thats a claim which carries the burden of prof.
 
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