🕯️ Traditions Black nazarene and sto. nino? there is no such in the bible!

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Alam nyo rin ba sa unang simbahan ng mga unang Christiano may mga rebulto na at imahe ni Cristo maging sa panyo ni Veronica umukit ang imahe ni Cristo at si Apostle Luke ay isang pintor ginuhit nya ang mukha ng inang Maria na kasama nya ang anak nya na si Cristo. mga loko lokong Pastor lang ang umiiwas dyan kasi wala sila sa History at kasaysayan ng Biblia hehehe
 
First of all bible cant save you kahit may reference ka pa bible cant save you your idols cant save you your religion CANT! save you this is based on my perspective.BASE ON MY PERSPECTIVE' imagine. Kung anong nka sulat sa biblia gawa yan nang tao' GAWA YAN NANG TAO. kung anong relihiyon meron tayo GAWA YAN NANG TAO. So basically yan mga relihiyon natin yang mga biblia nyo they are just guide para maging mabuti kang tao theyre not intended pra yan na talaga ang gawin mong basehan para humusga nang ibang relihiyon ang point ko is maging mabuti kayo sa kapwa tao nyo di yung binabash nyo yung paniniwala nang iba. Tanong ko lang eh ano ngayon kung na prove nyo na hindi totoo ang paniniwala nang iba? Whats the point? May ma idudulot ba yan na maganda sayo? How about irespeto nlang natin ang paniniwala nang iba at mag focus nlang tayo sa paniniwala natin? Di naman nayin ikaka punta sa langit kung mang babash tayo nang iba jan dba? Im not a fan of praising black nazarene or other idols but i respect what they believe .
 
Maging si Saint Luke ay gumuhit ng imahe ni Maria pero ang mga sulpot galit kay Maria kung ano na lang ang pinagsasabi at sinisiraan ang ina ni Cristo na dios daw si Maria, nakipag talik daw si Maria kay Jose kaya may kapatid daw sa laman si Cristo pero hindi nila alam kubg ano ang greek word na Adelpho, Hindi daw ina ng Dios si Maria, Hindi na daw ****** si Maria at kung ano na lang na paratang kay Maria pero mahal daw nila si Cristo mga. loko loko talaga mga Pastor hehehe. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Luke_painting_the_******?_e_pi_=7,PAGE_ID10,6855555360
 
Roman Catholics have an extremely high view of Mary and have attributed some astounding characteristics and abilities to her, such as her interceding for us, atoning for us, and delivering our souls from damnation (documented below). Protestants consider this elevation to be not only extreme but also idolatrous since they attribute to Mary what should only be said of God. Roman Catholicism responds by saying it venerates Mary and gets its doctrines on her from Sacred Tradition, which is an "inanimate thing passed from hand to hand,"You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Alright, so which is it, the sin of idolatry or the blessing of veneration?

The Roman Catholic church teaches there is a difference between idolatry and veneration. It says,

"Idolatry etymologically denotes Divine worship given to an image, but its signification has been extended to all Divine worship given to anyone or anything but the true God . . . An essential difference exists between idolatry and the veneration of images practised [sic] in the Catholic Church, viz., that while the idolater credits the image he reverences with Divinity or Divine powers, the Catholic knows "that in images there is no divinity or virtue on account of which they are to be worshipped, that no petitions can be addressed to them, and that no trust is to be placed in them."You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

The Roman Catholic Church has defined idolatry far too narrowly in its favor. Let's consider two things.

Divine Worship

First, notice that it says "divine worship" should be given only to God. This works out to mean that other forms of worship to Mary are okay as long as it isn't "divine worship." But what is "divine worship?" After searching through the Vatican WebsiteYou do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., the Catholic EncyclopediaYou do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., the entire Council of TrentYou do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., Vatican IIYou do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and the Catechism of the Catholic Church,You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma,You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and the Catholic DictionaryYou do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. the best I could find was, "Now the divine worship is directed to the glorification of God."You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. That is a nice and brief comment, but it isn't descriptive enough. Why is it that in all these sources Divine Worship is not defined? Perhaps it is because offering a strict definition might make them vulnerable to criticism concerning their worship of Mary.

Catholicism says that divine worship is for God only, yet it also says it is okay to bow down before a statue of Mary, pray to Mary, believe that Mary delivers us from death, believe Mary atoned for us, etc., as long as you don't give her "divine worship." In other words, you can do almost anything worship-wise to Mary as you would to God - just don't call it "divine worship."

Exodus 20:5 and "worship"

The Hebrew word for "worship" in You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. (the Ten Commandments) is "shachah" שָׁחָה. Take a look at what the Strong's Enhanced Lexicon says about the word.

"172 occurrences; AV translates as “worship” 99 times, “bow” 31 times, “bow down” 18 times, “obeisance” nine times, “reverence” five times, “fall down” three times, “themselves” twice, “stoop” once, “crouch” once, and translated miscellaneously three times. 1 to bow down. 1a (Qal) to bow down. 1b (Hiphil) to depress (fig). 1c (Hithpael). 1c1 to bow down, prostrate oneself. 1c1a before superior in homage. 1c1b before God in worship. 1c1c before false gods. 1c1d before angel."You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

Bowing down is part of the act of worship - as you can see above. Clearly, Roman Catholics who bow down before statues of Mary (and others) are risking breaking the commandment not to worship other gods and not to bow down before idols. The Catholic Church responds by saying that as long as it isn't divine worship given to Mary, it is okay. But this is nothing more than a word game. They do the same thing to Mary that they would to God and excuse it by saying that it isn't divine worship. The funny thing is that God doesn't make the same distinction as the Catholics do. God says don't do it. Don't bow down before images (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

Idolatry

Second, the Roman Catholic definition of idolatry used above says "the idolater credits the image he reverences with Divinity or Divine powers." Again after searching all the sources listed above, divine powers is not defined. The best I found was "divine power preserved Christ's body from corruption." (CCC 627) and "Divine power is inexhaustible" (Catholic Enyclopedia, Omnipotentce). Roman Catholicism does not attribute divinity to Mary (at least, not yet), but it does attribute divine powers to her: atonement of sinYou do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; divine access to GodYou do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., delivering our souls from deathYou do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; her intercession brings us salvationYou do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., etc.

Such magnificent attributes of Mary are found nowhere in Scripture. Let me say this again, none of these things are found in God's inspired word. They are, however, said to be found in the Roman Catholic Church's Sacred Tradition. I cannot help considering what God said through the Apostle Paul about not exceeding what is written in the word of God.

"Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively applied to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that in us you might learn not to exceed what is written, in order that no one of you might become arrogant in behalf of one against the other." (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

So, the Roman Catholic Church is commanded by Scripture to not exceed what is written in God's word. Has it done that? Has it exceeded the limits of Scripture? Yes, it has.

In the Bible, NASB, the word idol (and its cognates idols and idolatry) occurs 175 times in 162 verses. I read every one of the 175 verses, and not once did I find a reference to the idolators actually considering the idols in their hands and/or to which they bowed as actually being alive because that is what it would mean to claim that they were divine. Remember, Catholicism says, "the idolater credits the image he reverences with Divinity or Divine powers."You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. But this is wrong. You see, the Catholic Church is stacking the definitional deck in its favor so as to separate itself from the biblical teaching of idolatry and maintain its practice of bowing down before various statues and praying to saints.

But saying the Roman Catholic Church is practicing idolatry doesn't prove anything. So, let's turn to God's word and take a look at the examples of idolatry and then see if the Roman Catholic Church practices the same thing concerning Mary.
 
I D O L A T R Y

Idolatry of in the Bible Examples of with Mary

Altars to Idols


You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., "He also removed the foreign gods and the idol from the house of the Lord, as well as all the altars which he had built on the mountain of the house of the Lord and in Jerusalem, and he threw them outside the city." "From the beginning of Christianity special veneration was ρáíd to the Mother of God, which in the language of theology is called hyperdulia, to distinguish the honour rendered to her from that given to the other saints. It is not strange, therefore, that after the main or principal altar, the most prominent is that dedicated in a special manner to the Mother of God; and to indicate this specific preference, this altar is usually placed in the most prominent position in the church, i.e. at the right (gospel) side of the main altar. In general it signifies any altar of which the Blessed ****** is the titular."You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

Bowing Down to Images

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., "You shall not make for yourselves idols, nor shall you set up for yourselves an image or a sacred pillar, nor shall you place a figured stone in your land to bow down to it; for I am the Lord your God." See You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. All across the world, images of Mary are elevated in Feasts and Churches. In those churches, people very often bow down to statues of Mary. This is a violation of scripture.

Images in the House of God

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., He did much evil in the sight of the Lord, provoking Him to anger. 7 Then he put the carved image of the idol which he had made in the house of God, of which God had said to David and to Solomon his son, “In this house and in Jerusalem, which I have chosen from all the tribes of Israel, I will put My name forever; Roman Catholic Churches are full of images of all sorts in, what we could call, the houses of God, the Roman Catholic Churches. The most prominent are those of Mary.

Idols in the hearts

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., "Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their hearts, and have put right before their faces the stumbling block of their iniquity. Should I be consulted by them at all?" Veneration of Mary is accomplished in the heart. "The Blessed ******, as manifesting in a sublimer manner than any other creature the goodness of God, deserves from us a higher recognition and deeper veneration than any other of the saints; and this peculiar cultus due to her because of her unique position in the Divine economy, is designated in theology hyperdulia, that is dulia in an eminent degree."You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

Kissing statues

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., "And now they sin more and more, And make for themselves molten images, Idols skillfully made from their silver, All of them the work of craftsmen. They say of them, “Let the men who sacrifice kiss the calves!" All over the world, Catholics not only bow to statues of Mary but also will ceremoniously kiss the statue's feet. There is no record found from the Vatican that denounces such a practice.

Making Graven Images

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. 5 "You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, It should go without saying that statues and images of Mary are too countless to number within the Roman Catholic Churches around the world. If Mary is in heaven and they make images of her, then they violate the Scripture.

Making Male and Female Images

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., "So watch yourselves carefully, since you did not see any form on the day the Lord spoke to you at Horeb from the midst of the fire, 16 lest you act corruptly and make a graven image for yourselves in the form of any figure, the likeness of male or female," The Roman Catholic Church is full of male and female statues representing Jesus, Joseph, Mary, and others. They are often used in worship services, and many people bow down before them.

Prays to

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., But the rest of it he makes into a god, his graven image. He falls down before it and worships; he also prays to it and says, “Deliver me, for you are my god." See also You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., “Gather yourselves and come; Draw near together, you fugitives of the nations; They have no knowledge, Who carry about their wooden idol, and pray to a god who cannot save. CCC par. 2675, "Beginning with Mary's unique cooperation with the working of the Holy Spirit, the Churches developed their prayer to the holy Mother of God, centering it on the person of Christ manifested in his mysteries . . . "

Request for Deliverance

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., But the rest of it he makes into a god, his graven image. He falls down before it and worships; he also prays to it and says, “Deliver me, for you are my god." Par. 966, " . . . You [Mary] conceived the living God and, by your prayers, will deliver our souls from death."

Worshipping Images

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., "And beware, lest you lift up your eyes to heaven and see the sun and the moon and the stars, all the host of heaven, and be drawn away and worship them and serve them, those which the Lord your God has allotted to all the peoples under the whole heaven."

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., "You shall not make for yourself an idol, or any likeness of what is in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the water under the earth. 5 “You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God . . . " " . . . when she [Mary] is the subject of preaching and worship she prompts the faithful to come to her Son . . . " (Vatican Council II, p. 420). Statues of Mary often have her depicted with Stars in her crown, an allusion, says Catholicism to You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., " And a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; 2 and she was with child; and she cried out, being in labor and in pain to give birth." You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

Worship of false gods

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., "And on the following day he entered Caesarea. Now Cornelius was waiting for them, and had called together his relatives and close friends. 25 And when it came about that Peter entered, Cornelius met him, and fell at his feet and worshiped him. 26 But Peter raised him up, saying, “Stand up; I too am just a man." You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., "And I, John, am the one who heard and saw these things. And when I heard and saw, I fell down to worship at the feet of the angel who showed me these things. 9 And he said to me, “Do not do that; I am a fellow servant of yours and of your brethren the prophets and of those who heed the words of this book; worship God."

" . . . when she [Mary] is the subject of preaching and worship she prompts the faithful to come to her Son . . . " (Vatican Council II, p. 420).
Does the Roman Catholic Church promote idolatry? According to the scripture and its own practices, yes it does.

"Therefore, my beloved, flee from idolatry." (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

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All of that are base on Catholic tradition and not on the Bible or Early Church Teachings. Magbasa ng Bibliya ayan na nga ang liwanag na.
 
Si Veronica may imahe ni Cristo na dugo na umukit sa kanyang panyo. Ang mga sulpot lang hindi nila kilala ang mukha ng Dios nila pero may mga imahe sila ng Hell imaginary Heaven repture imahe ng Devil alam nila pero pero imahe ni Cristo wala sila hehehe.
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Nakikigamit lang kayo ny Biblia na galing sa Catholic wag masyadong assuming na kayo lang ang nag babasa ng Biblia. Nakikigamit din kayo ng salitang trinity na ginawa din ng trinitarian Catholic wala din yun sa Biblia hehehe
 
Kung wala ang Biblia na compiled ng Catholic walang Pastor at Ministro walang pangalan ang relihiyon nyo at secta. At wag nyong sabihin na kayo ang tunay na nag sulputan at ginamit lang ng Dios ang pagano na Catholic daw para ipalaganap ang kaanyang salita sa buong mundo hehehe
 
Nakikigamit lang kayo ny Biblia na galing sa Catholic wag masyadong assuming na kayo lang ang nag babasa ng Biblia. Nakikigamit din kayo ng salitang trinity na ginawa din ng trinitarian Catholic wala din yun sa Biblia hehehe
galing mo lodi hehe, naki gamit lang pala,tas madami na alam di daw tayu nag basa ng bibliya laughtrip tong si james eh
 
The King James Version is the most widely use version even in catholic wala rito ang Apocripa or deuterocanonicals.

Do not boast kasi hindi ang mga Katoliko ang gumawa nito although they have part on it.
 
Pinapatay ng mga pari noon ang mga nagsasalin ng Bibliya from Hebrew, Latin, Greek to English kasi ayaw nilang matutunan ng tao ang mga nasa Bibliya o Salita ng Diyos.
 
natawa ako kay james. andaming pangaral. hehehe. nasaang group ka po ba? nasa freenet po tayo, mali po yata napasukan mo. para naman po sa gumawa ng topic na to, ts, mali tong ginawa mo. wag kang makealam sa paniniwala naming mga katoliko. parehas lang din ang lugar kung saan tayo mapupunta. mabuting pangaral man ng sinasabi mong diyos yan, bakit hindi mo nalang sabihin yan sa gustong makinig. tinuro rin ba ng diyos nyo na makipag away ng dahil lang sa paniniwala at relihiyon? siguro naman hindi ginulo ng katoliko ang mundong ginagalawan ng tulad nyo. whogoat na to... hahaha
 
Ang pag luhod ba ay patunay na sinasamba mo ang isang bagay o tao na nasa harap mo nababasa nyo ba ang isip at puso ng tao sa tuwing syang tahimik na nag dadasal kung sino ang kanyang dinadasalan mga dios ba kayo? Nako wala talaga kayong alam sa Biblia hehehe
 
We must be born again in spirit.

John 3:

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

24 For John was not yet cast into prison.

25 Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying.

26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.

27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

28 Ye yourselves **** me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.

29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
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We must be born again in spirit.

John 3:

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

24 For John was not yet cast into prison.

25 Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying.

26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.

27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

28 Ye yourselves **** me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.

29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
wag mo ibpaano kung may mapakita ako sa iyo na isang tunay at dalisay na religion aaminin mo ba na mali ang aral ng pastor ninyo? aaminin mo ba na hindi ganon kadali lamang ang kaigtasan at ang once save is always save?
We must be born again in spirit.

John 3:

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

9 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be?

10 Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:

15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.

20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.

23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.

24 For John was not yet cast into prison.

25 Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying.

26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.

27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.

28 Ye yourselves **** me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him.

29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled.

30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.

32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.

33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.

34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him.

35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand.

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
wag mo ibahin ang unang verses na ibinigay mo kanina sa tinatanong ko dito "Mga Hebreo 11:1
11 Ngayon, ang pananampalataya ay pagiging tiyak sa mga bagay na inaasahan at paninindigan sa mga bagay na hindi nakikita." kung mayroon ba dyan na nag-eemphasised ng true religion is a relation to GOD. ang hirap sau para kang palaka palundag lundag eh kaya maliliko ang tao saiyo eh? hindi naman ako tutol na dapat tlga may relasyon tayo sa Dios eh ang tutol ko sau sa mga sinabi mo kanina na true religion is relation to GOD. pero ito ha pagka mabasa ko at maibigay ko sa iyo ang tunay at dalisay na religion aaminin mo na hindi lang sa pananampalataya maliligtas ang tao? na mali ang mga aral at turo sa iyo.
 
Are Catholic Teachings Biblical? Basa:

Salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation is by baptismal regeneration and is maintained through the Catholic sacraments unless a willful act of sin is committed that breaks the state of sanctifying grace. The Bible teaches that we are saved by grace which is received through simple faith (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.), and that good works are the result of a change of the heart wrought in salvation (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) and the fruit of that new life in Christ (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

Assurance of salvation: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that salvation cannot be guaranteed or assured. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. states that the letter of 1 John was written for the purpose of assuring believers of the CERTAINTY of their salvation.

Good Works: The Roman Catholic Church states that Christians are saved by meritorious works (beginning with baptism) and that salvation is maintained by good works (receiving the sacraments, confession of sin to a priest, etc.) The Bible states that Christians are saved by grace through faith, totally apart from works (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

Baptism: In the New Testament baptism is ALWAYS practiced AFTER saving faith in Christ. Baptism is not the means of salvation; it is faith in the Gospel that saves (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). The Roman Catholic Church teaches baptismal regeneration of infants, a practice never found in Scripture. The only possible hint of infant baptism in the Bible that the Roman Catholic Church can point to is that the whole household of the Philippian jailer was baptized in You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. However, the context nowhere mentions infants. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. declares that salvation is by faith. Paul spoke to all of the household in verse 32, and the whole household believed (verse 34). This passage only supports the baptism of those who have already believed, not of infants.

Prayer: The Roman Catholic Church teaches Catholics to not only pray to God, but also to petition Mary and the saints for their prayers. Contrary to this, we are taught in Scripture to only pray to God (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

Priesthood: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that there is a distinction between the clergy and the “lay people,” whereas the New Testament teaches the priesthood of all believers (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

Sacraments: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that a believer is infused with grace upon reception of the sacraments. Such teaching is nowhere found in Scripture.

Confession: The Roman Catholic Church teaches that unless a believer is hindered, the only way to receive the forgiveness of sins is by confessing them to a priest. Contrary to this, Scripture teaches that confession of sins is to be made to God (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

Mary: The Roman Catholic Church teaches, among other things, that Mary is the Queen of Heaven, a perpetual ******, and the co-redemptress who ascended into heaven. In Scripture, she is portrayed as an obedient, believing servant of God, who became the mother of Jesus. None of the other attributes mentioned by the Roman Catholic Church have any basis in the Bible. The idea of Mary being the co-redemptress and another mediator between God and man is not only extra-biblical (found only outside of Scripture), but is also unbiblical (contrary to Scripture). You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. declares that Jesus is the only redeemer. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. proclaims that Jesus is the only mediator between God and men.

Many other examples could be given. These issues alone clearly identify the Catholic Church as being unbiblical. Every Christian denomination has traditions and practices that are not explicitly based on Scripture. That is why Scripture must be the standard of Christian faith and practice. The Word of God is always true and reliable. The same cannot be said of church tradition. Our guideline is to be: “What does Scripture say?” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.; You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.). You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. declares, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”
 
Narito po ang mga mali maling turo:

Holy Bible vs. Catholic Catechism.


Catechism

1. Peter was the Head of the Apostles [552,768,880]

Bible

- Christ was the Head of the apostles (John 13:13)

Catechism

2. The Bishop, is the Successor
Of the Apostle [861-862, 936]

Bible

- The Apostles had no Successor, for to Succeed them one needed to be a witness of Christ's Resurrection (Acts 1:21, 22)


Catechism

3. The Pope, as the bishop of Rome, is the successor of Peter [882, 938]

Bible

-Peter had no Successor

Catechism

4. The bishop, with Popes as their head, rules the universal Church [883, 894-896].

Bible

-Christ, the Head of the Body, Rules the Universal Churches (Colossians 1:1

Catechism

5. God has Entrusted revelation to the Roman Catholic Bishops [81, 86]

Bible

- God has Entrusted revelation to the Saints (Jude 3)


Catechism

6. The Magisterium is the authoritative teacher of the Church [85, 87]

Bible

- The Holy Spirit is the authoritative teacher of the Church (John 14:26; 16:13; 1 John 2:27)


Catechism

8. The Pope is infallible interpreter of the Scripture [891]

Bible

-God Alone is infallible (Numbers 23:19)


Catechism

9. The Magisterium alone has the ability and the right to interpret the Scripture [85, 100,
939]

Bible

-Every Christian, aided by the Holy Spirit, has Ability and the right to interpret the Scripture (Acts 17:11; 1 Corinthians 2:12-16)


Catechism
10. Scripture is to be interpreted in the sense in which it has been define by the Magisterium [113, 119]

Bible

- Scripture must be Interpreted in the original sense intended by the Holy Spirit (2 Peter 3:14 -16)


Catechism

11. The Magisterium has the right to define truth found only obscurely or implicitly of the revelation [66, 82

Bible

- No One has right to go beyond what is written in Scripture (1 Corinthians 4:6, Proverbs 30:6)


Catechism

12. The Scripture and Tradition together are the Word of God [81, 85, 97, and 182]

Bible

-Scripture is the Word of God (John 10:35; 2 Timothy 3:16; 2 Peter 1:20, 21). Tradition is the Words of men (Mark 7:1-13)


Catechism

13. Scripture and the Tradition together are the Church’s Supreme rule of Faith [80, 82]

Bible

-Scripture is the Church’s only Rule of Faith (Mark 7:7-13, 2 Timothy 3:16, 17)
 
Mula ba sa lolo nyo na Baptist Protestante kung saan galing ang founder ng secta nyo na paninira hanggang ngayon andyan parin nakatayo ang unang simbahan since 33 ad hindi nyo kayang tibagin dumadami lang ang mga sulpot at secta sa mundo taon taon ang Catholic andyan parin hehe. Tama ang sabi ni Cristo na sinabi nya ikaw Simon Pedro maliit na bato sa ibabaw ng batong ito ay itatayo ko ang aking simbahan at maging ang mga demonyo at pintuan ng impyerno ay hindi kayang wasakin ito hehe
 
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