Rodante Marcoleta charged with Plunder, Bribery at Ombudsman

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[KingSemreh]

Ngayon change topic naman>??? nakow talaga dika nauubusan ng sasabihin, mental gymnastics talaga. Tsaka ka makipag usap pag kaya mo na i-explain yung meaning ng trolls.

As-is naman na straight topic lng siya. Definition nga paulit ulit pa kasi hindi satisfied sa palusot niya. Haha

 

[Meawii]

As-is naman na straight topic lng siya. Difination nga paulit ulit pa kasi hindi satisfied sa palusot niya. Haha

Ayusin mo rin muna yung spell mo ng Difination bago makipag debate HAHHAHA

 

[KingSemreh]

Ayusin mo rin muna yung spell mo ng Difination bago makipag debate HAHHAHA

Spelling nanaman ang palusot niya. Troll talaga.

 

[musicacc727]

Palakpakan mo kaya sarili mo sa galing mo as Troll.

Let the court decide. Case is a case, evidence is evidence... but not all evidence is credible, admissible, or complete. What one side calls absolute proof may simply be context-stripped material, circumstantial data, or unlawfully obtained information that cannot withstand legal scrutiny.

Uy, you described the so-called evidences of the 18-ex marines perfectly

 

[musicacc727]

Palakpakan mo kaya sarili mo sa galing mo as Troll.

Let the court decide. Case is a case, evidence is evidence... but not all evidence is credible, admissible, or complete. What one side calls absolute proof may simply be context-stripped material, circumstantial data, or unlawfully obtained information that cannot withstand legal scrutiny. A court does not just look at evidence; it tests its integrity, validity, and relevance. Therefore, we welcome judicial intervention to expose the flaws in these claims and ensure that justice is served based on standard legal metrics, not mere allegations.

Also, just to add to my response above, but is it really morally permissible for anyone to assume innocence or show support towards someone in the government, such as in this thread's case, Marcoleta, where evidences are more realistic than accusatory? True, the court would assume them innocent until proven guilty, but should that hold true for individuals? Afterall, just like you stated, the court would need to properly verify evidences regardless of how strong they are, but us as individuals ought not to hold this impartiality, should we? Afterall, support tends to instigate confidence to the accused. Now, before anything, this is a question of morality, not a matter of what you should and shouldn't believe.

Let me present you, as I did in this forum again and again, an example from history. Former president Estrada, charged with plunder, perjury, and graft, before he was removed from office and served a warrant, his case went through various loops first. There were evidences, lots of it, when he was being tried, yet, he wasn't impeached right away—this is impartiality, the evidence must be fully and objectively assessed first. Now, during his impeachment trial, an envelope containing possible proof of was presented as evidence, which the then-Impeachment court refused to open, eventually triggering the second EDSA revolution.

Let's recap: Were the people impartial? In this case, no. They revolted because they knew something was wrong WITHOUT the court actually releasing a guilty conviction. Did they do the right thing? Most people would say yes, as it imprisoned and impeached the greedy Erap. How about the senators, were they impartial? Not one bit, right? They stood by Erap despite his crimes, but their reasons would say otherwise, claiming that the envelope is outside the scope of the case, which seems reasonable, legally speaking, but would have freed Erap had it not been the people voicing out. So now, is it really morally permissible to just "let the court decide" when it comes to one's opinion?

 

[KingSemreh]

Uy, you described the so-called evidences of the 18-ex marines perfectly

Oh yeah... Does it being entertain at the moment or just going to be dismissed without continuing the investigation.
However it is not part or the priority of the administration. Passing the Waling-waling as the National Orchid is the first priority. E di wow.

 

[musicacc727]

Ohh yeah... However it is not part or the priority of the administration. Passing the Waling-waling as the National Orchid is the first priority. E di wow.

... but you do understand how discussions in the senate works, right? The waling-waling being passed as the National Orchid, which by the way was an initiative of Legarda and Padilla, is primarily because of the bill being at its last reading. Questionable as it may seem for this to be discussed amidst everything happening, it's a part of their obligations to approve bills, we can't question them for that.

I get your frustrations, I, too am frustrated that they can not and are not tackling the flood control issues as much as they should, especially now that Tulfo has yet to schedule any meeting nor any clear timeline of how the investigation will roll. But we can't simply question them for doing their other jobs, can't we?

Lastly, to add before anyone says anything about letting Marcoleta and his allies lead the investigation, the 18-ex marines had already shattered the integrity of that entirely. We want movement, but we also need credibility and integrity alongside that. Just like you said in your earlier post, evidence may be context-stripped, that not all evidences can just be assumed true, and when we identify evidences as such, should we still stand by them and believe? If we prosecute quickly yet in accurately, it's just as bad as letting the case go, isn't it? Perhaps even worse because it could be weaponized.

I do not write me responses here as support to the New Majority or its senators, they have their shortcomings. The case I discussed about Erap earlier, Sotto was among the Senators that said no, and that remains as one of my reasons to not support him ever. It's time that we apply impartiality not to people but the results, the effects of the action. If Marcoleta does something good, say he's able to fully reveal everything behind the Flood control issues backed with proper, verified evidence, we won't be angry for him doing so, but would rather be happy that justice is served, but does that mean that we should pardon him from him from his past cases? No, we won't. Now, if the New Majority passed the Waling-waling bill and had not touched the topic of flood control, will or should we be happy? Not really. If they started to function again after days of disarray in order to respond to the recent Mindanao earthquakes, will or should we be glad? Yes. But does that mean we will vote everyone in the Majority if they were to run again? No.

Notice the difference? Supporting results and accomplishments instead of supporting individuals. How about that?

 

[musicacc727]

Oh yeah... Does it being entertain at the moment or just going to be dismissed without continuing the investigation.
However it is not part or the priority of the administration. Passing the Waling-waling as the National Orchid is the first priority. E di wow.

To address the edit, it is not being entertained, not just the 18-ex marines but the entire investigation. However, as I've said, a hearing with obviously fake evidences is just as bad as dismissing the case. Just read my previous post for my insights regarding the actions currently being taken by the New Majority ;p

 

[KingSemreh]

To address the edit, it is not being entertained, not just the 18-ex marines but the entire investigation. However, as I've said, a hearing with obviously fake evidences is just as bad as dismissing the case. Just read my previous post for my insights regarding the actions currently being taken by the New Majority ;p

I'm not going to insist the legitimacy of the so called 18 ex-marine, I don't even know one of them in real life. However, your pre-judged as fake evidences is also premature without proper investigation. How did you come out as fake evidences, let me know?
The Majority of the Senates at the moment are Pro Malacañang not Pro people.

 

[musicacc727]

I'm not going to insist the legitimacy of the so called 18 ex-marine, I don't even know one of them in real life. However, your pre-judged as fake evidences is also premature without proper investigation. How did you come out as fake evidences, let me know?
The Majority of the Senates at the moment are Pro Malacañang not Pro people.

I'd give you that, my previous statements pre-judged their evidences. I'm wrong on that note, and I won't justify that the way I worded it is correct.

For that, however, let me pose my point in a different approach: do they have enough integrity for their evidences to hold? Because as per what I know, a picture inside a chopper posted on Facebook and a photo from a public event with public personalities being used as evidences don't make much sense to be true. Though my earlier structure is incorrect, it's also inferential, isn't it?

Also, you're commiting the very same mistake you called me out for. If we ought to stand by only what trial reflects to be absolute truth, then assuming that the Senate Majority is pro-Malacañan is also a pre-judgjement, isn't it? Afterall, no verified court-verified sources can be cited.

 

[musicacc727]

Let's recap: Were the people impartial? In this case, no. They revolted because they knew something was wrong WITHOUT the court actually releasing a guilty conviction. Did they do the right thing? Most people would say yes, as it imprisoned and impeached the greedy Erap. How about the senators, were they impartial? Not one bit, right? They stood by Erap despite his crimes, but their reasons would say otherwise, claiming that the envelope is outside the scope of the case, which seems reasonable, legally speaking, but would have freed Erap had it not been the people voicing out. So now, is it really morally permissible to just "let the court decide" when it comes to one's opinion?

Also, let me bring this back to the table. Are we really inclined to only form our concept of rightness based on finalized court proceedings? Or are the results instead supposed to complete the puzzle that we build in our minds during the case?

I'm not saying that we should just shut down the allegations of the 18-ex marines here, there's plenty of room for them to present every evidence they have, just like how they hosted a presscon recently, but it also doesn't follow that we should lean towards them, nor the people who brought them out, just because it's them that began earlier. Integrity matters quite a lot whennit comes to presenting evidences, doesn't it?

 

[musicacc727]

Looking back before I sleep, but the previous arguments in this thread has just been a mere shithole. Honestly, I can't even blame these Dutertards for trying so hard to defend Duterte and his allies, because they're just too deep in.

Just a piece of advice to the Duterte supporters here, please read the reponses you've received throughout the discussions here sa PHC. From what I see, you all always go back to name-calling and accusing anti-Duterte to be trolls, when you yourselves fit the definition better. You have all been name-calling, ignoring factual information, and refusing to read arguments, forcing them to be longer, even if it's an obvious, inferential one.

Throughout the many administrations I experienced, the countries I've been to, and my years spent in the academe, never have I ever talked to people as ignorant and a leadership as unsuccessful as these past two administrations. Duterte failed the Filipino people, killing thousands in his drug wars, writing off innocent lives as collateral, while simultaneously not shutting down the drug trade, not ceasing any big shot drug lords.

This fact is perhaps one that you'd all call out again, but drug addiction isn't merely just a crime but also a mental disorder. Does it ever cross your mind why we have many rehabilitation facilities? It's because drug addiction, similar to gamb-ling or drinking addiction, is a habbit that had altered one's brain chemistry, just that it has more extreme psychological influences. You can't deny that drug causes crimes, but you could also say thw same for *******, which, alongside drugs, is also heavily linked with crime in the Philippines. Do we ever shoot drunkards? No, we don't. This is why the ICC stands firmly against prosecuting Duterte, because for a country with a supposedly functioning justice system, this should have never been the case, especially with innocent lives cut short due to the campaign. Fighting against drug isn't bad, drugs and drug abuse is bad, but there's no such law, no such section in our constitution that states that justice can be served through one bullet. In those thousands of victims killed, there are barely any with proofs that they fought against the police aside from some having loose firearms. Also, viewing the demographics, it's mostly the Urban poor brought down, not dealers with lavish lifestyles, not drug lords that have done thousands of times more crimes than drug users. And before you say I'm defending drug use, no, I'm not. I am merely presenting facts. Drug users are meant to be rehabilitated, because what else are our thousands of rehabilitation facilities for? The crimes some drug users committed are unforgiveable, but that's why we have courts, why we have jails. The reason why ICC is trying Duterte and Bato is the same reason that they didn't shoot them down when they had the chance, why they didn't kill Bato when he evaded arrest, dissimilar to how drug addicts would've been shot instantly the second they tried to run. The ICC believes in serving justice properly, not through rushed shootouts.

Next, to address Marcoleta, and the New Minority bloc and Majority bloc's cases, it's true that they all have their flaws, that most of them would probably be in jail, had they been properly investigated. But this is the beauty of our Republic: we have the right to vote. We can literally prosecute them by not voting for them, by making them loose their positions, yet most generalize them as blocs and not see the individual senators for who they are, for what they have done, for their credibility. Refusing to see the results or focusing solely on the human beats the purpose of being able to vote, because these two are intertwined. You can support a cause without supporting a person, but it's hard to support a person without supporting the cause. Why can't we do that? Instead of standing for all of Marcoleta's controversy, why not just say that you support Marcoleta's desire to unveal the Flood control *******? Instead of defending Sara from impeachment, why not show us what she's actually done? What notable accomplishments her office has to show for? If Adolf H. came nack to life and solved world hunger, would we be angry that world hunger is solved? No. But would it be justifiable to love the man and support everything about him? No. Politics does nit operate in two vacuum tubes. It's not just Marcos vs Duterte or Duterte vs Aquino, so stop treating every opposing comments to your posts as propaganda against your side, because evidences are always there for all of us to explore.

 

[KingSemreh]

Looking back before I sleep, but the previous arguments in this thread has just been a mere shithole. Honestly, I can't even blame these Dutertards for trying so hard to defend Duterte and his allies, because they're just too deep in.

Just a piece of advice to the Duterte supporters here, please read the reponses you've received throughout the discussions here sa PHC. From what I see, you all always go back to name-calling and accusing anti-Duterte to be trolls, when you yourselves fit the definition better. You have all been name-calling, ignoring factual information, and refusing to read arguments, forcing them to be longer, even if it's an obvious, inferential one.

Throughout the many administrations I experienced, the countries I've been to, and my years spent in the academe, never have I ever talked to people as ignorant and a leadership as unsuccessful as these past two administrations. Duterte failed the Filipino people, killing thousands in his drug wars, writing off innocent lives as collateral, while simultaneously not shutting down the drug trade, not ceasing any big shot drug lords.

This fact is perhaps one that you'd all call out again, but drug addiction isn't merely just a crime but also a mental disorder. Does it ever cross your mind why we have many rehabilitation facilities? It's because drug addiction, similar to gamb-ling or drinking addiction, is a habbit that had altered one's brain chemistry, just that it has more extreme psychological influences. You can't deny that drug causes crimes, but you could also say thw same for *******, which, alongside drugs, is also heavily linked with crime in the Philippines. Do we ever shoot drunkards? No, we don't. This is why the ICC stands firmly against prosecuting Duterte, because for a country with a supposedly functioning justice system, this should have never been the case, especially with innocent lives cut short due to the campaign. Fighting against drug isn't bad, drugs and drug abuse is bad, but there's no such law, no such section in our constitution that states that justice can be served through one bullet. In those thousands of victims killed, there are barely any with proofs that they fought against the police aside from some having loose firearms. Also, viewing the demographics, it's mostly the Urban poor brought down, not dealers with lavish lifestyles, not drug lords that have done thousands of times more crimes than drug users. And before you say I'm defending drug use, no, I'm not. I am merely presenting facts. Drug users are meant to be rehabilitated, because what else are our thousands of rehabilitation facilities for? The crimes some drug users committed are unforgiveable, but that's why we have courts, why we have jails. The reason why ICC is trying Duterte and Bato is the same reason that they didn't shoot them down when they had the chance, why they didn't kill Bato when he evaded arrest, dissimilar to how drug addicts would've been shot instantly the second they tried to run. The ICC believes in serving justice properly, not through rushed shootouts.

Next, to address Marcoleta, and the New Minority bloc and Majority bloc's cases, it's true that they all have their flaws, that most of them would probably be in jail, had they been properly investigated. But this is the beauty of our Republic: we have the right to vote. We can literally prosecute them by not voting for them, by making them loose their positions, yet most generalize them as blocs and not see the individual senators for who they are, for what they have done, for their credibility. Refusing to see the results or focusing solely on the human beats the purpose of being able to vote, because these two are intertwined. You can support a cause without supporting a person, but it's hard to support a person without supporting the cause. Why can't we do that? Instead of standing for all of Marcoleta's controversy, why not just say that you support Marcoleta's desire to unveal the Flood control *******? Instead of defending Sara from impeachment, why not show us what she's actually done? What notable accomplishments her office has to show for? If Adolf H. came nack to life and solved world hunger, would we be angry that world hunger is solved? No. But would it be justifiable to love the man and support everything about him? No. Politics does nit operate in two vacuum tubes. It's not just Marcos vs Duterte or Duterte vs Aquino, so stop treating every opposing comments to your posts as propaganda against your side, because evidences are always there for all of us to explore.

Don't use Pilipino People for failed word. Only oligarch and drug addicts/users/pusher/dealer, include the revolutionary people (npa) are failed and not the majority Pilipino people. He is one of the best President in the Philippines ever.

What do you expect she can do after cut about 63% of her budget from 2024 every year till now?

Keep the other issue, let the court decide.

 

[musicacc727]

Don't use Pilipino People for failed word. Only oligarch and drug addicts/users/pusher/dealer, include the revolutionary people (npa) are failed and not the majority Pilipino people. He is one of the best President in the Philippines ever.

What do you expect she can do after cut about 63% of her budget from 2024 every year till now?

Keep the other issue, let the court decide.

Your statement is incomprehensible, and you just proved my point. You respond selectively, nitpicking only on points that you can somewhat salvage.

Let's talk lived experiences here: How many drug lords did Duterte capture during his time? How many innocent lives were taken and recorded as mere collaterals? How many terrorist groups was he able to shut down even partially? How many issues during his admin, to name a few, the pharmally *******, the first flood control questioning, his 3-6 months drug promise, his jet ski promie, were resolved or justified?

Let's talk about the Marcoses, too. Duterte openly showed support for the Marcoses, even letting former Dictator Marcos Sr. be buried in the Libingan ng mga Bayani. Despite his remarks about Marcos being an addict, he and Sara still supported Marcos, even joining him as the latter's campaign buddy. The ill-gotten wealth issues? Also unresolved during his time.

We also can't discuss Duterte without recounting his view towards women, kissing various women without consent, making rape jokes, and giving remarks that would make any woman shiver.

Lastly, can we blame them from cutting Sara's budget when she's facing millions worth of alleged corruption money? When during her stay as the DepEd secretary, she spent 10 million to publish a book, pushed for a curriculum without proper testing, which has failed even during its dry run?

The Dutertes didn't do anything spectacular, you just idolize them so much. Also, you accuse people in this forum for being trolls, yet you exhibit the most troll-like behavior, lol.

 

[KingSemreh]

Your statement is incomprehensible, and you just proved my point. You respond selectively, nitpicking only on points that you can somewhat salvage.

Let's talk lived experiences here: How many drug lords did Duterte capture during his time? How many innocent lives were taken and recorded as mere collaterals? How many terrorist groups was he able to shut down even partially? How many issues during his admin, to name a few, the pharmally *******, the first flood control questioning, his 3-6 months drug promise, his jet ski promie, were resolved or justified?

Let's talk about the Marcoses, too. Duterte openly showed support for the Marcoses, even letting former Dictator Marcos Sr. be buried in the Libingan ng mga Bayani. Despite his remarks about Marcos being an addict, he and Sara still supported Marcos, even joining him as the latter's campaign buddy. The ill-gotten wealth issues? Also unresolved during his time.

We also can't discuss Duterte without recounting his view towards women, kissing various women without consent, making rape jokes, and giving remarks that would make any woman shiver.

Lastly, can we blame them from cutting Sara's budget when she's facing millions worth of alleged corruption money? When during her stay as the DepEd secretary, she spent 10 million to publish a book, pushed for a curriculum without proper testing, which has failed even during its dry run?

The Dutertes didn't do anything spectacular, you just idolize them so much. Also, you accuse people in this forum for being trolls, yet you exhibit the most troll-like behavior, lol.

Let me know your stand first if you don't mind not just to criticize Duterte like the others do or what? Do you know someone best candidate that may be I can agree with you. Let me tell you, I don't Idolize Duterte, I don't vote Duterte. The People Around the World are Proud with Duterte. Think of it. Not just for one side. Your own side.

 

[KingSemreh]

Your statement is incomprehensible, and you just proved my point. You respond selectively, nitpicking only on points that you can somewhat salvage.

Let's talk lived experiences here: How many drug lords did Duterte capture during his time? How many innocent lives were taken and recorded as mere collaterals? How many terrorist groups was he able to shut down even partially? How many issues during his admin, to name a few, the pharmally *******, the first flood control questioning, his 3-6 months drug promise, his jet ski promie, were resolved or justified?

Let's talk about the Marcoses, too. Duterte openly showed support for the Marcoses, even letting former Dictator Marcos Sr. be buried in the Libingan ng mga Bayani. Despite his remarks about Marcos being an addict, he and Sara still supported Marcos, even joining him as the latter's campaign buddy. The ill-gotten wealth issues? Also unresolved during his time.

We also can't discuss Duterte without recounting his view towards women, kissing various women without consent, making rape jokes, and giving remarks that would make any woman shiver.

Lastly, can we blame them from cutting Sara's budget when she's facing millions worth of alleged corruption money? When during her stay as the DepEd secretary, she spent 10 million to publish a book, pushed for a curriculum without proper testing, which has failed even during its dry run?

The Dutertes didn't do anything spectacular, you just idolize them so much. Also, you accuse people in this forum for being trolls, yet you exhibit the most troll-like behavior, lol.

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Terrorist matters
During the administration of President Rodrigo Duterte (June 2016 – June 2022), the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) reported that more than 24,000 to 25,000 communist insurgents, local terrorists, and their active supporters surrendered to the government. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
The overwhelming majority of these surrenders fell under the government's counter-insurgency and reintegration campaigns, primarily managed by the National Task Force to End Local Communist Armed Conflict (NTF-ELCAC) through programs like the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

Breakdown by Terrorist Group

• Communist Terrorist Groups (CPP-NPA): The AFP officially stated at the end of Duterte's term that the military had "regained or recovered" over 24,000 members, underground supporters, and sympathizers belonging to the New People's Army (NPA). This number included regular armed fighters as well as community-level logistics networks. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Violent Extremist Groups (Abu Sayyaf, Maute, BIFF): Thousands of Islamic State-linked localized terrorists surrendered or were neutralized, particularly during and after the 2017 Marawi Siege. For perspective on the operational pace, the AFP reported 128 Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) surrenders in the year 2020 alone, with hundreds more laying down their arms across Sulu and Basilan throughout the remainder of Duterte's presidency. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

Statistical Discrepancies and Independent Tracking
While official military press releases frequently cited tens of thousands of processed returnees, these metrics faced domestic and international scrutiny:

• Inclusion of Sympathizers: Human rights organizations noted that the government's totals blended combatants with civilian supporters, village-level organizers, and rural farmers. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Forced / Fake Surrenders: Independent monitors like the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. documented thousands of instances where human rights groups (such as Karapatan) alleged that civilians were "red-tagged" or coerced into signing surrender papers to meet local government peace quotas

List of Good and verified facts that achievement of Duterte Administration:

The major verified, legislation-backed achievements of the Rodrigo Duterte administration (2016–2022) span infrastructure, social services, economic policy, and civil administration. The following data and specific milestones are verified through official government reports from agencies like the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and passed Republic Acts: [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

Social Welfare & Education Reforms

• Universal Access to Quality Tertiary Education Act (RA 10931): Provided free tuition and miscellaneous fees for Filipino students in State Universities and Colleges (SUCs), benefiting over 1.6 million students. [1, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Universal Health Care Act (RA 11223): Automatically enrolled all Filipino citizens into the National Health Insurance Program (PhilHealth). [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., 2]
• Institutionalization of Malasakit Centers (RA 11463): Established a one-stop-shop medical assistance program across public hospitals, helping over 2 million low-income individuals access healthcare funding. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., 2]
• Expanded Maternity Leave Law (RA 11210): Increased ρáíd maternity leave from 60 days to 105 days for female workers in both public and private sectors. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

"Build, Build, Build" Infrastructure Program [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
Under this flagship economic agenda, public infrastructure spending surged to an average of over 5% to 6% of GDP, contrasting the 2% average of previous administrations. Key achievements reported by the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) included: [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

• Roads & Bridges: Completed, widened, or rehabilitated over 40,000 kilometers of roads and 5,900 bridges across the country. [, 2]
• Aviation & Maritime: Upgraded, built, or modernized 214 airports and 451 commercial/social seaports. Notable completions included the Clark International Airport New Passenger Terminal and the Bicol International Airport. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., 2, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Free Irrigation Act (RA 10969): Waived irrigation fees for small-scale farmers owning 8 hectares of land or less, benefiting over 930,000 farmers. [1, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

Bureaucratic & Civil Improvements [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

• Ease of Doing Business Act (RA 11032): Addressed red tape by mandating strict processing time limits (3 days for simple transactions, 7 days for complex transactions) for government papers. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Extended Document Validities: Signed laws extending Philippine passport validity from 5 to 10 years (RA 10928) and driver's license validity to 10 years for those without traffic violations (RA 10930). [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• National ID System (RA 11055): Signed the Philippine Identification System Act into law to provide a unified, single official identification platform for all citizens. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

Tax Reforms & Economic Management [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., 2]

• TRAIN Law (Tax Reform for Acceleration and Inclusion): Lowered personal income taxes for 99% of taxpayers while adjusting excise taxes on fuel and sugary drinks to finance infrastructure.
• Credit Rating Upgrades: Thanks to the comprehensive tax reform program, major global rating agencies (such as S&P Global and Fitch) upgraded the Philippines' sovereign credit rating to BBB+, the highest in the country's history up to that point.
• Poverty Reduction: Official data from the Philippine Statistics Authority verified that the national poverty incidence dropped from 23.5% in 2015 down to 16.7% in 2018, lifting roughly 6 million Filipinos out of poverty before the global disruption of the COVID-19 pandemic. [1, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

 

[musicacc727]

Let me know your stand first if you don't mind not just to criticize Duterte like the others do or what? Do you know someone best candidate that may be I can agree with you. Let me tell you, I don't Idolize Duterte, I don't vote Duterte. The People Around the World are Proud with Duterte. Think of it. Not just for one side. Your own side.

If I alone were to put someone in the pedestal to be president, then I'd most likely choose Vico, current mayor of Pasig for his clean track record. Leni Robredo, Mayor of Naga, would also be a good choice given her leadership background. Leody de Guzman and a similar figure, Eli San Fernando, are also fit for various administrative positions. And these bets, you can question them all you want and convince me to stay off of supporting them once you present me a solod case similar to what I've been presenting against Duterte.

Also, if you still refuse that you're idolizing Duterte, go and read all of your replies im this forum. You've been constantly defending him and his allies regardless of the proofs presented against your argument. If the people around the world are so proud with Duterte's leadership, then why is it that the ICC, an esteemed organization, trying him for crimes against humanity, which media channels around the world had reported? Why is Bato's escape being discussed by international outlets, viewing it as wrong? Now, can you confidently tell me that you're not just being blinded by your beliefs about the Duterte admin?

 

[KingSemreh]

If I alone were to put someone in the pedestal to be president, then I'd most likely choose Vico, current mayor of Pasig for his clean track record. Leni Robredo, Mayor of Naga, would also be a good choice given her leadership background. Leody de Guzman and a similar figure, Eli San Fernando, are also fit for various administrative positions. And these bets, you can question them all you want and convince me to stay off of supporting them once you present me a solod case similar to what I've been presenting against Duterte.

Also, if you still refuse that you're idolizing Duterte, go and read all of your replies im this forum. You've been constantly defending him and his allies regardless of the proofs presented against your argument. If the people around the world are so proud with Duterte's leadership, then why is it that the ICC, an esteemed organization, trying him for crimes against humanity, which media channels around the world had reported? Why is Bato's escape being discussed by international outlets, viewing it as wrong? Now, can you confidently tell me that you're not just being blinded by your beliefs about the Duterte admin?

Experienced is matter, you can see the evidence of there own area of responsibility.
You can Push Vico or anyone as your own right to choice. But you can't dictate the Majority of the People to which one is good or bad. They lived and knew base on there experienced not just like what you learn from school or media or mentor and etc.

 

[musicacc727]

In separate details:

Terrorist matters
During the administration of President Rodrigo Duterte (June 2016 – June 2022), the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) reported that more than 24,000 to 25,000 communist insurgents, local terrorists, and their active supporters surrendered to the government. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
The overwhelming majority of these surrenders fell under the government's counter-insurgency and reintegration campaigns, primarily managed by the National Task Force to End Local Communist Armed Conflict (NTF-ELCAC) through programs like the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

Breakdown by Terrorist Group

• Communist Terrorist Groups (CPP-NPA): The AFP officially stated at the end of Duterte's term that the military had "regained or recovered" over 24,000 members, underground supporters, and sympathizers belonging to the New People's Army (NPA). This number included regular armed fighters as well as community-level logistics networks. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Violent Extremist Groups (Abu Sayyaf, Maute, BIFF): Thousands of Islamic State-linked localized terrorists surrendered or were neutralized, particularly during and after the 2017 Marawi Siege. For perspective on the operational pace, the AFP reported 128 Abu Sayyaf Group (ASG) surrenders in the year 2020 alone, with hundreds more laying down their arms across Sulu and Basilan throughout the remainder of Duterte's presidency. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

Statistical Discrepancies and Independent Tracking
While official military press releases frequently cited tens of thousands of processed returnees, these metrics faced domestic and international scrutiny:

• Inclusion of Sympathizers: Human rights organizations noted that the government's totals blended combatants with civilian supporters, village-level organizers, and rural farmers. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Forced / Fake Surrenders: Independent monitors like the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. documented thousands of instances where human rights groups (such as Karapatan) alleged that civilians were "red-tagged" or coerced into signing surrender papers to meet local government peace quotas

List of Good and verified facts that achievement of Duterte Administration:

The major verified, legislation-backed achievements of the Rodrigo Duterte administration (2016–2022) span infrastructure, social services, economic policy, and civil administration. The following data and specific milestones are verified through official government reports from agencies like the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and passed Republic Acts: [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

Social Welfare & Education Reforms

• Universal Access to Quality Tertiary Education Act (RA 10931): Provided free tuition and miscellaneous fees for Filipino students in State Universities and Colleges (SUCs), benefiting over 1.6 million students. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Universal Health Care Act (RA 11223): Automatically enrolled all Filipino citizens into the National Health Insurance Program (PhilHealth). [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Institutionalization of Malasakit Centers (RA 11463): Established a one-stop-shop medical assistance program across public hospitals, helping over 2 million low-income individuals access healthcare funding. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Expanded Maternity Leave Law (RA 11210): Increased ρáíd maternity leave from 60 days to 105 days for female workers in both public and private sectors. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

"Build, Build, Build" Infrastructure Program [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
Under this flagship economic agenda, public infrastructure spending surged to an average of over 5% to 6% of GDP, contrasting the 2% average of previous administrations. Key achievements reported by the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) included: [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

• Roads & Bridges: Completed, widened, or rehabilitated over 40,000 kilometers of roads and 5,900 bridges across the country. [, You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Aviation & Maritime: Upgraded, built, or modernized 214 airports and 451 commercial/social seaports. Notable completions included the Clark International Airport New Passenger Terminal and the Bicol International Airport. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Free Irrigation Act (RA 10969): Waived irrigation fees for small-scale farmers owning 8 hectares of land or less, benefiting over 930,000 farmers. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

Bureaucratic & Civil Improvements [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

• Ease of Doing Business Act (RA 11032): Addressed red tape by mandating strict processing time limits (3 days for simple transactions, 7 days for complex transactions) for government papers. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• Extended Document Validities: Signed laws extending Philippine passport validity from 5 to 10 years (RA 10928) and driver's license validity to 10 years for those without traffic violations (RA 10930). [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]
• National ID System (RA 11055): Signed the Philippine Identification System Act into law to provide a unified, single official identification platform for all citizens. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

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• TRAIN Law (Tax Reform for Acceleration and Inclusion): Lowered personal income taxes for 99% of taxpayers while adjusting excise taxes on fuel and sugary drinks to finance infrastructure.
• Credit Rating Upgrades: Thanks to the comprehensive tax reform program, major global rating agencies (such as S&P Global and Fitch) upgraded the Philippines' sovereign credit rating to BBB+, the highest in the country's history up to that point.
• Poverty Reduction: Official data from the Philippine Statistics Authority verified that the national poverty incidence dropped from 23.5% in 2015 down to 16.7% in 2018, lifting roughly 6 million Filipinos out of poverty before the global disruption of the COVID-19 pandemic. [You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.]

While this is clearly AI generated, let me entertain your response here.

On your first statement, you left an artifact, unfortunately.

"Statistical Discrepancies and Independent Tracking
While official military press releases frequently cited tens of thousands of processed returnees, these metrics faced domestic and international scrutiny:
Inclusion of Sympathizers: Human rights organizations noted that the government's totals blended combatants with civilian supporters, village-level organizers, and rural farmers. [1, 2]
Forced / Fake Surrenders: Independent monitors like the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) documented thousands of instances where human rights groups (such as Karapatan) alleged that civilians were "red-tagged" or coerced into signing surrender papers to meet local government peace quotas"

Next, on some the laws.

Tertiary Access to Quality education was authored by Bam Aquino, currently against Duterte

UHC was authored by JV Ejercito, and co-authored by Hontiveros and Gatchalian, also against Duterte

The Senate version of the Expanded maternity leave was authored by Hontiveros, also against Duterte

Attributing the passing of these laws to Duterte being the president is kind of off course, considering most of them are authored by people currently against him.

Also, read my discussions yesterday. The success of these laws, yes, we should perhaps be thankful. But does that pardon Duterte from his sins? Should he be forgiven because he signed laws that were written by his opposers? I don't think so.

Then, the TRAIN law. I can't believe that that will be used for this discussion when it's ome of the reasons that oil prices soared to such prices during the US-Iran war.

And lastly, these achievements still do not answer the questions I posed, except for the terrorism one, which your response even has a contradiction to. Are we just bound to ignore his other issues?

 

[KingSemreh]

While this is clearly AI generated, let me entertain your response here.

On your first statement, you left an artifact, unfortunately.

"Statistical Discrepancies and Independent Tracking
While official military press releases frequently cited tens of thousands of processed returnees, these metrics faced domestic and international scrutiny:
Inclusion of Sympathizers: Human rights organizations noted that the government's totals blended combatants with civilian supporters, village-level organizers, and rural farmers. [1, 2]
Forced / Fake Surrenders: Independent monitors like the Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (ACLED) documented thousands of instances where human rights groups (such as Karapatan) alleged that civilians were "red-tagged" or coerced into signing surrender papers to meet local government peace quotas"

Next, on some the laws.

Tertiary Access to Quality education was authored by Bam Aquino, currently against Duterte

UHC was authored by JV Ejercito, and co-authored by Hontiveros and Gatchalian, also against Duterte

The Senate version of the Expanded maternity leave was authored by Hontiveros, also against Duterte

Attributing the passing of these laws to Duterte being the president is kind of off course, considering most of them are authored by people currently against him.

Also, read my discussions yesterday. The success of these laws, yes, we should perhaps be thankful. But does that pardon Duterte from his sins? Should he be forgiven because he signed laws that were written by his opposers? I don't think so.

Then, the TRAIN law. I can't believe that that will be used for this discussion when it's ome of the reasons that oil prices soared to such prices during the US-Iran war.

And lastly, these achievements still do not answer the questions I posed, except for the terrorism one, which your response even has a contradiction to. Are we just bound to ignore his other issues?

Are you telling me you are super talino without using AI? Wow.

Sorry, but it seems your no. 1 bet for president is not qualified for 2028 presidency election. He's going to have to wait until 2034.