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MANILA, Philippines — The Commission on Elections Second Division has declared Benny Abante as the duly elected Representative of the Manila City 6th District in the 2025 midterm elections.

This came after the division voided the certificate of candidacy of Joel Uy, whose proclamation is considered “annùlléd.”

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yan yung first clause, basahin mo ang next clause jusko lerd haha
Haha, binasa ko na ‘yung Article IV, Section 2! Ang “next clause” is for kids na may Pinay mom na nag-elect ng citizenship, pero si Uy? Naturalized lang via his dad’s 1967 status. No proof na natural-born siya kaya disqualified pa rin.
haha basahin mo nga yung page 23 ng mangudadatu vs. comelec kasi sinabi doon na stray vote is a vote casted to a non-candidate, so it requires the disqualification to happen before the election and not after the election
Nako cherry-picking ka naman. Page 23 says void COC means stray votes, kahit post-election. “If the certificate of candidacy is void ab initio… then legally the person who filed such a void certificate of candidacy was never a candidate… All votes for such non-candidate are stray votes and should not be counted.” This applies regardless of when the disqualification is finalized.

FYI You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. is a Latin term meaning “from the beginning”.
haha ikaw mismo nagsabi na hindi applicable ang local succession, kaya nga andun na tayo sa counterpart na batas sa national level na meron ding sariling rules of succession
RA 6645 governs special elections for congressional vacancies (e.g., death, resignation post-election), not succession. Unlike RA 7160’s succession for local executives (e.g., vice-mayor to mayor), congressional seats have no succession mechanism.
ikaw na mismo nagsabi na it is for post election vacancies, so kailan ba nagkaroon ng vacancy? before election ba? o after na haha
Walang vacancy kasi never naging candidate si Uy, since he had a void COC from the start.
eto basahin mo para mahimasmasan ka lol

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Lol, binasa ko na yan, this is for local races, sabi ni Gatmaytan, hindi Congress. Kaw’s opinion doesn’t change, na si Abante ang sole valid candidate. No vacancy, no special election.

appeal na pala ang COMELEC so they acknowledge na di nga pwede ma-proclaim si abante,
Screenshot mo mismo yang linya na yan sa article kung ina-acknowledge ng COMELEC na di nga pwede ma-proclaim si Abante.
MANILA, Philippines — A Supreme Court ruling abandoning the “second placer rule” in election cases has become a test for recent poll disputes.

Commission on Elections (Comelec) Chair George Garcia acknowledged that view on Monday, saying the poll body will file a motion for reconsideration on the high court’s April 22 ruling that was disclosed last week.

Deciding on a 2022 election case (Datu Pax Ali Mangudadatu v. Commission on Elections), the Supreme Court said a second-place finisher in a local race could not replace the disqualified winner. The court said it was “abandoning” the second-place rule it had previously upheld in 2012 for lack of legal basis and in accordance with the Local Government Code (Republic Act No. 7160).

Abante case​

That ruling, however, does not apply to the House of Representatives, University of the Philippines law professor Dante Gatmaytan told the Inquirer over the weekend.

But another legal expert said the Supreme Court ruling could apply as well to such disputes in the congressional race.

The Comelec last week declared Bienvenido Abante as the duly elected representative of Manila’s sixth congressional district after the poll body’s Second Division annùlléd the candidacy of his winning rival, Luis Chua Uy, amid questions regarding his citizenship.

The Second Division had also canceled the registration of Duterte Youth for not having undergone the required procedures for its accreditation in 2018. The controversial party list group won three seats in the 20th Congress.

Both cases are pending, and the implications of the new Supreme Court ruling remain to be seen.

Permanent vacancy​

Ateneo Law School professor Eugene Kaw said the Mangudadatu doctrine could apply as well to poll cases in the congressional race.

Mangudadatu had challenged the Comelec decision canceling his candidacy for Sultan Kudarat governor due to false material representation regarding his change of residence. The poll body then ruled that the duly elected vice governor “shall serve the remaining duration” of Mangudadatu’s term.

In an emailed response to the Inquirer, Kaw said “if the COC (certificate of candidacy) of the congressional candidate is canceled by reason of false material representation under Sec. 78 of the OEC (Omnibus Election Code), the candidate with the second highest number of votes (i.e. second placer) cannot be declared as the winner, as he or she is not the will of the people.”

Since there are no succession rules for congressional seats, he said, a permanent vacancy will be created, which will allow for the conduct of a special election instead to serve the unexpired term pursuant to Section 9, Article VI of the 1987 Constitution.

Party list rankings​

But in the case of Duterte Youth, Kaw, who teaches political and election law, said the abandonment of the second placer rule does not apply since party list seats are allocated based on rankings under the Party List System Act (RA 7491).

“Thus, given Duterte Youth’s three-seat allocation, the possible beneficiaries there would be No. 55, Gabriela; No. 56, Abono; and No. 57, Ang Probinsyano for one seat each, respectively,” Kaw said, adding that the scenario would be similar to what happened to Akbayan in the 2022 elections after the cancellation of An Waray’s registration.

For now, Garcia said the Comelec would consider how the high court’s decision should affect its rulings regarding the just-concluded midterm elections.

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You both assume the Comelec’s appeal of Mangudadatu targets Abante’s case, when it’s about clarifying local election precedents, not congressional wins. And you both fail to grasp that with Uy's disqualification (void COC from the beginning), Abante is the only valid candidate, not a second placer.
 
Lol, binasa ko na yan, this is for local races, sabi ni Gatmaytan, hindi Congress. Kaw’s opinion doesn’t change, na si Abante ang sole valid candidate. No vacancy, no special election.
alam mo, kung may nabibili lang na gamot para sa mga t@nga, binilhan na kita eh. naaawa na kami sayo lol
 
Haha, binasa ko na ‘yung Article IV, Section 2! Ang “next clause” is for kids na may Pinay mom na nag-elect ng citizenship, pero si Uy? Naturalized lang via his dad’s 1967 status. No proof na natural-born siya kaya disqualified pa rin.
haha sure ka hindi pinoy nanay niya at di niya na-elect ang pinoy citizenship? haha
Nako cherry-picking ka naman. Page 23 says void COC means stray votes, kahit post-election. “If the certificate of candidacy is void ab initio… then legally the person who filed such a void certificate of candidacy was never a candidate… All votes for such non-candidate are stray votes and should not be counted.” This applies regardless of when the disqualification is finalized.

FYI You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. is a Latin term meaning “from the beginning”.

RA 6645 governs special elections for congressional vacancies (e.g., death, resignation post-election), not succession. Unlike RA 7160’s succession for local executives (e.g., vice-mayor to mayor), congressional seats have no succession mechanism.

Walang vacancy kasi never naging candidate si Uy, since he had a void COC from the start.

Lol, binasa ko na yan, this is for local races, sabi ni Gatmaytan, hindi Congress. Kaw’s opinion doesn’t change, na si Abante ang sole valid candidate. No vacancy, no special election.


Screenshot mo mismo yang linya na yan sa article kung ina-acknowledge ng COMELEC na di nga pwede ma-proclaim si Abante.

You both assume the Comelec’s appeal of Mangudadatu targets Abante’s case, when it’s about clarifying local election precedents, not congressional wins. And you both fail to grasp that with Uy's disqualification (void COC from the beginning), Abante is the only valid candidate, not a second placer.
haha yan yung before they re-visited the second placer rule, basahin mo ang page 33 mas malinaw doon sinabi na "if the votes were cast in the sincere belief that the candidate was alive, qualified, or eligible, they should not be treated as stray, void or meaningless" haha so hindi talaga naka based sa type of disqualification (from the begining or not) kundi naka based pa rin kung kailan na-found out the disqualification, it was found out after the elections so the votes are still casted in the sincere belief that Joey Uy is still qualified
Screenshot mo mismo yang linya na yan sa article kung ina-acknowledge ng COMELEC na di nga pwede ma-proclaim si Abante.
no need nila sabihin yan bossing, they only need to imply that they acknowledge through an appeal, wala ka na magagawa ngayon since di na nila ipo-proclaim si boy dila until ma-decision-nan ang appeal nila
 
alam mo, kung may nabibili lang na gamot para sa mga t@nga, binilhan na kita eh. naaawa na kami sayo lol
Pinaparingan mo ba sarili mo? Kase ang linaw-linaw naman yung sinabi ng SC at COMELEC unless kung mahina yung reading comprehenssion mo at away mo lang tangapin na mali ang pagka intindi mo?
haha sure ka hindi pinoy nanay niya at di niya na-elect ang pinoy citizenship? haha
Haha, sure ka? Walang ebidensya na Pinoy ang nanay ni Uy o nag-elect siya. Comelec sabi, naturalized lang siya via dad’s 1967 citizenship.
haha yan yung before they re-visited the second placer rule, basahin mo ang page 33 mas malinaw doon sinabi na "if the votes were cast in the sincere belief that the candidate was alive, qualified, or eligible, they should not be treated as stray, void or meaningless" haha so hindi talaga naka based sa type of disqualification (from the begining or not) kundi naka based pa rin kung kailan na-found out the disqualification, it was found out after the elections so the votes are still casted in the sincere belief that Joey Uy is still qualified
Nako, cherry-picking ka naman. Page 33 quotes Geronimo, pero Mangudadatu abandoned that old rule. Jalosjos says void COC—like Uy’s, not natural-born, means stray votes, kahit post-election.
no need nila sabihin yan bossing, they only need to imply that they acknowledge through an appeal, wala ka na magagawa ngayon since di na nila ipo-proclaim si boy dila until ma-decision-nan ang appeal nila
Yes no need na sabihin yan based on your assumption, hence di naman nag appeal yung COMELEC about sa pagka panalo ni Abante. The appeal is all about Mangudadatu, and nothing else.
 
Haha, sure ka? Walang ebidensya na Pinoy ang nanay ni Uy o nag-elect siya. Comelec sabi, naturalized lang siya via dad’s 1967 citizenship.
di pa sure if wala nga ebidensya since ina-appeal na ni Joey ang decision which also requires him to present proof na pinoy mama niya, so wait and see tayo dito
Nako, cherry-picking ka naman. Page 33 quotes Geronimo, pero Mangudadatu abandoned that old rule. Jalosjos says void COC—like Uy’s, not natural-born, means stray votes, kahit post-election.
nope di yan page 33, eto ang page 33:
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Yes no need na sabihin yan based on your assumption, hence di naman nag appeal yung COMELEC about sa pagka panalo ni Abante. The appeal is all about Mangudadatu, and nothing else.
haha i-appeal ang mangudadatu case? di pa ba case closed ang mangudadatu case?
 
Pinaparingan mo ba sarili mo? Kase ang linaw-linaw naman yung sinabi ng SC at COMELEC unless kung mahina yung reading comprehenssion mo at away mo lang tangapin na mali ang pagka intindi mo?
sige panindigan mo na lang yung pagiging t@nga mo at tanggap naman talaga namin na walang nananalo sa diskusyon sa tulad mong t@nga hahaha
 
boss akala ko ba may decision na ang SC sa mangudadatu case, yun pala ang ina-appeal ng COMELEC?
ganyan talaga pag mahina ang reading comprehension kahit napaka simpleng intindihin ng binabasa, hindi talaga maiintindihan lalo nat kabayo pa ang nag basa hahaha
 
ganyan talaga pag mahina ang reading comprehension kahit napaka simpleng intindihin ng binabasa, hindi talaga maiintindihan lalo nat kabayo pa ang nag basa hahaha
oo nge eh pagka intindi ko gusto ni Garcia ng clarification sa sinasabing abandoning the second placer rule kasi may implications ito sa cases that they're handling, di pa talaga nila alam kung anu ang magiging implication ng ruling sa Abante case, Joey case, at Duterte youth case, kung hindi relevant ang ruling na yan di naman sila mag-a-appeal, so nag-appeal that means they acknowledge na may implications talaga ang ruling at gusto nila ma-clarify as to what are these implications
 
Simplehan lang natin ito, like super simple, para ma-gets mo agad kahit 15 years old ka lang!

Ano ang Mangudadatu v. COMELEC?
Sa case na ‘to, nag-decide ang Supreme Court (SC) noong April 23, 2025, na i-scrap ang “second-placer rule” para sa local elections, tulad ng governor o mayor. Ano ‘yung second-placer rule? Kapag na-disqualify yung nanalong candidate (like si Datu Pax Ali Mangudadatu na governor ng Sultan Kudarat), dati, ang pangalawa sa botohan (second placer) ang ipapahayag na panalo. Pero sabi ng SC, mali ‘yun! Sa halip, dapat ang vice-governor o vice-mayor ang kukuha ng pwesto, ayon sa Local Government Code (RA 7160). Kasi, sila ang susunod na inihalal ng tao, hindi yung second placer na hindi naman nanalo talaga. Gets? So, kapag may vacancy sa local office, succession ang sagot, hindi second placer.

Ano naman ang Uy v. Abante case?
Eto naman, tungkol sa congressional race sa Manila 6th District noong May 2025. Si Luis “Joey” Chua Uy ang nanalo with 64,746 votes, pero natalo siya sa isang petition ni Bienvenido “Benny” Abante (63,358 votes). Bakit? Kasi hindi raw natural-born Filipino si Uy, na requirement sa Congress ayon sa Constitution. Sabi ng COMELEC (June 18, 2025), void ang candidacy ni Uy kasi naturalized lang siya (naging Filipino dahil sa naturalization ng tatay niya noong 1967). So, stray votes yung kay Uy—hindi counted. Si Abante, bilang tanging qualified candidate, ang nanalo. Walang second-placer rule dito kasi dalawa lang sila, at si Abante lang ang valid.

Bakit hindi connected ang dalawang cases?
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Bakit hindi related ang Mangudadatu sa Uy-Abante case?
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Ano ang punto ng COMELEC appeal sa Mangudadatu?
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May kinalaman ba ang Duterte Youth case sa Mangudadatu?
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Bakit stray votes ang kay Uy kahit na-disqualify siya after election?
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Paano kung manalo si Uy sa appeal niya?
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Bakit parang unsure pa ang proclamation ni Abante?
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Sana na-clear ko na para sa inyo! Mangudadatu’s all about local elections and succession, pero si Abante, solid ang panalo sa Congress under Aratea.
 
Simplehan lang natin ito, like super simple, para ma-gets mo agad kahit 15 years old ka lang!

Ano ang Mangudadatu v. COMELEC?
Sa case na ‘to, nag-decide ang Supreme Court (SC) noong April 23, 2025, na i-scrap ang “second-placer rule” para sa local elections, tulad ng governor o mayor. Ano ‘yung second-placer rule? Kapag na-disqualify yung nanalong candidate (like si Datu Pax Ali Mangudadatu na governor ng Sultan Kudarat), dati, ang pangalawa sa botohan (second placer) ang ipapahayag na panalo. Pero sabi ng SC, mali ‘yun! Sa halip, dapat ang vice-governor o vice-mayor ang kukuha ng pwesto, ayon sa Local Government Code (RA 7160). Kasi, sila ang susunod na inihalal ng tao, hindi yung second placer na hindi naman nanalo talaga. Gets? So, kapag may vacancy sa local office, succession ang sagot, hindi second placer.

Ano naman ang Uy v. Abante case?
Eto naman, tungkol sa congressional race sa Manila 6th District noong May 2025. Si Luis “Joey” Chua Uy ang nanalo with 64,746 votes, pero natalo siya sa isang petition ni Bienvenido “Benny” Abante (63,358 votes). Bakit? Kasi hindi raw natural-born Filipino si Uy, na requirement sa Congress ayon sa Constitution. Sabi ng COMELEC (June 18, 2025), void ang candidacy ni Uy kasi naturalized lang siya (naging Filipino dahil sa naturalization ng tatay niya noong 1967). So, stray votes yung kay Uy—hindi counted. Si Abante, bilang tanging qualified candidate, ang nanalo. Walang second-placer rule dito kasi dalawa lang sila, at si Abante lang ang valid.
haha sino nagsabi na sa local lang na-abandon ang second placer rule? ikaw? haha
Bakit hindi connected ang dalawang cases?


Bakit hindi related ang Mangudadatu sa Uy-Abante case?
haha so bakit nga nag-a-appeal ngayon ang comelec if irrelevant naman pala yung ruling ni SC?
Bakit parang unsure pa ang proclamation ni Abante?
take note na ang nag decision ay 2nd division pa lang, so meron pang dalawang appeal si Joey diyan (i-appeal sa en banc first and if not granted he can still appeal sa supreme court)
 
Simplehan lang natin ito, like super simple, para ma-gets mo agad kahit 15 years old ka lang!

Ano ang Mangudadatu v. COMELEC?
Sa case na ‘to, nag-decide ang Supreme Court (SC) noong April 23, 2025, na i-scrap ang “second-placer rule” para sa local elections, tulad ng governor o mayor. Ano ‘yung second-placer rule? Kapag na-disqualify yung nanalong candidate (like si Datu Pax Ali Mangudadatu na governor ng Sultan Kudarat), dati, ang pangalawa sa botohan (second placer) ang ipapahayag na panalo. Pero sabi ng SC, mali ‘yun! Sa halip, dapat ang vice-governor o vice-mayor ang kukuha ng pwesto, ayon sa Local Government Code (RA 7160). Kasi, sila ang susunod na inihalal ng tao, hindi yung second placer na hindi naman nanalo talaga. Gets? So, kapag may vacancy sa local office, succession ang sagot, hindi second placer.

Ano naman ang Uy v. Abante case?
Eto naman, tungkol sa congressional race sa Manila 6th District noong May 2025. Si Luis “Joey” Chua Uy ang nanalo with 64,746 votes, pero natalo siya sa isang petition ni Bienvenido “Benny” Abante (63,358 votes). Bakit? Kasi hindi raw natural-born Filipino si Uy, na requirement sa Congress ayon sa Constitution. Sabi ng COMELEC (June 18, 2025), void ang candidacy ni Uy kasi naturalized lang siya (naging Filipino dahil sa naturalization ng tatay niya noong 1967). So, stray votes yung kay Uy—hindi counted. Si Abante, bilang tanging qualified candidate, ang nanalo. Walang second-placer rule dito kasi dalawa lang sila, at si Abante lang ang valid.

Bakit hindi connected ang dalawang cases?


Bakit hindi related ang Mangudadatu sa Uy-Abante case?


Ano ang punto ng COMELEC appeal sa Mangudadatu?


May kinalaman ba ang Duterte Youth case sa Mangudadatu?


Bakit stray votes ang kay Uy kahit na-disqualify siya after election?


Paano kung manalo si Uy sa appeal niya?


Bakit parang unsure pa ang proclamation ni Abante?



Sana na-clear ko na para sa inyo! Mangudadatu’s all about local elections and succession, pero si Abante, solid ang panalo sa Congress under Aratea.
sa local lang ba applicable ang 2nd placer rule?? t@nga mo hahaha



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haha sino nagsabi na sa local lang na-abandon ang second placer rule? ikaw? haha
Lol, ang Supreme Court at si Prof. Dante Gatmaytan sa Inquirer! Sabi sa Mangudadatu ruling, inabandona ang second-placer rule para sa local elections—governors, mayors—kasi may succession sa RA 7160. Pero sa Congress, tulad kay Abante sa 6th District, walang ganyan.
haha so bakit nga nag-a-appeal ngayon ang comelec if irrelevant naman pala yung ruling ni SC?
Si COMELEC Chair Garcia nag-a-appeal ng Mangudadatu para sa local cases, hindi kay Uy o Abante. Kailangan nila linaw kung paano ia-apply sa local elections, not Congress mismo.
take note na ang nag decision ay 2nd division pa lang, so meron pang dalawang appeal si Joey diyan (i-appeal sa en banc first and if not granted he can still appeal sa supreme court)
Tama ka dyan. Comelec 2nd Division lang ang nag-void kay Uy’s COC, at ina-appeal niya sa En Banc. Kung matalo, pwede pa sa Supreme Court. Pero kahit may appeal, si Abante pa rin ang proclaimed winner unless baliktarin ng En Banc or SC.
sa local lang ba applicable ang 2nd placer rule??
Basahin mo mabuti ‘yung Mangudadatu ruling, page 34! Sabi ng Supreme Court, “the Court hereby abandons the second placer rule and declares that the rules on succession under the LGC shall apply in all cases where a permanent vacancy results from a local elective official’s disqualification.” Local elections lang ‘to,—governors, mayors—kasi may succession under RA 7160, like vice-governor taking over (page 22, page 35).
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Lol, ang Supreme Court at si Prof. Dante Gatmaytan sa Inquirer! Sabi sa Mangudadatu ruling, inabandona ang second-placer rule para sa local elections—governors, mayors—kasi may succession sa RA 7160. Pero sa Congress, tulad kay Abante sa 6th District, walang ganyan.

Si COMELEC Chair Garcia nag-a-appeal ng Mangudadatu para sa local cases, hindi kay Uy o Abante. Kailangan nila linaw kung paano ia-apply sa local elections, not Congress mismo.
haha actually supreme court ruled April 22 pa, pero bakit sa time ni Joey lang sila nag appeal? coincidence lang? haha
 
haha actually supreme court ruled April 22 pa, pero bakit sa time ni Joey lang sila nag appeal? coincidence lang? haha
Haha, anong coincidence? Si Uy nag-file ng motion for reconsideration sa COMELEC noong June 23, 2025, kasi June 18 inilabas ang desisyon na i-annul ang proclamation niya dahil hindi siya natural-born Filipino. Normal lang ‘yan—5 days ang deadline para mag-appeal sa COMELEC. Ang Mangudadatu na lumabas sa public noong June 19 ay walang epekto sa congressional case ni Uy, kasi local elections lang yun. Sinabi pa mismo ni Garcia, nagkataon lang ang timing ng desisyon nila bago nila nalaman ang Mangudadatu.
 
Haha, anong coincidence? Si Uy nag-file ng motion for reconsideration sa COMELEC noong June 23, 2025, kasi June 18 inilabas ang desisyon na i-annul ang proclamation niya dahil hindi siya natural-born Filipino. Normal lang ‘yan—5 days ang deadline para mag-appeal sa COMELEC. Ang Mangudadatu na lumabas sa public noong June 19 ay walang epekto sa congressional case ni Uy, kasi local elections lang yun. Sinabi pa mismo ni Garcia, nagkataon lang ang timing ng desisyon nila bago nila nalaman ang Mangudadatu.
not talking about uy's appeal, we're talking about comelec's appeal jusko lerd
 
not talking about uy's appeal, we're talking about comelec's appeal jusko lerd
Gets ko na, wala ka naman na mention na COMELEC yung tinutukoy mo. Si Garcia mismo nagsabi na nagkataon lang na malapit ang June 18 ruling nila kay Uy at ang June 19 release ng Mangudadatu, hindi nila alam ‘yung SC ruling noon. Ang COMELEC appeal na in-announce nung June 23 ay para sa Mangudadatu, at nasa 15-day deadline ‘yan para mag-file ng motion to reconsideration.

It is a norm for the Supreme Court of the Philippines to delay the public release of rulings after their promulgation. The Supreme Court’s process involves several stages: deliberation, promulgation (when the decision is finalized and signed by justices), and public release via the SC PIO or the Supreme Court E-Library.
 

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