Same Playbook by the Marcoses

Ferdinand Marcos Sr. issued an EO on Feb 24, 1966 removing VP Fernando Lopez from the National Security Council.

Years later, he declared Martial Law and abolished the OVP.

With the Office of the Vice President abolished and the constitutional successor VP Lopez gone, FM Sr was free to declare himself ruler of this country for over 2 decades.

Where he plundered public coffers.
And where our rights and freedoms were taken away from us.

History repeating itself is the Universe asking us if we have learned the lessons we were supposed to learn the first time.

Marcos Sr destroyed our country.

Are you willing to see, in your lifetime, another Marcos destroy our country after we had painstakingly rebuilt it from the ashes of Marcos Sr’s plunder and lust for power?

Are you willing to die bequeathing such a country to your children?

Those are the burning questions we must answer.

 

[ZummerSoltice]

may kumakalat kasi ngayon na tinanggal din daw ni digong sa NSC si leni noon pero via secret message lang daw haha walang executive order kundi nag whisper lang daw si digong kay leni haha

another thing is that yung tanggalan ay nangyari just before the arrival of the Afghans which is obviously a national security issue, malicious talaga ang EO No. 81

i also don't think na matutuloy pa ang US Visa ng mga Afghan na yan given na si Trump na president kaya tayo talaga kawawa dito

Eh di pwede pwede na sanang bigyan ng linaw ni madumb lenlen kung totoo ba yung ginawa ni digong sa kanya since both of them are private citizen

 

[plhbg1]

I don’t see anything wrong with reorganizing the NSC, especially since two of the removed members were pro-China, and China is the biggest national threat to our country right now. If you're having trouble connecting the dots, then that's your problem. Given that, DDS aren't exactly known for their critical thinking.

haha as if sure na sure na hindi demonyo ang US or as if sure na sure na demonyo talaga ang China? i would rather prefer a balanced approach to national security than removing all oppositions which disables the check and balance altogether, i also don't think bangag jr. makes better decisions than all the past presidents when all i see is puro kabangagan in his approach to every problem in the country

As I've said multiple times, if the narrative doesn't suit the Dutertes, then it's not considered quality information. You guys aren't for the country; after all, you were called DDS for a reason.

haha tatanggapin ko yan if the narrative is based on physical evidence, but if heresay lang naman nakaka hiya yan

Eh di pwede pwede na sanang bigyan ng linaw ni madumb lenlen kung totoo ba yung ginawa ni digong sa kanya since both of them are private citizen

hehe for the record, hindi ito NSC boss, yung pinapakalat nila is about sa resignation ni VP Leni from the cabinet at hindi sa NSC, it still doesn't change the fact na kahit nag resign ang VP ni digong ay never niya pinaki-alaman ang membership ni VP Leni to NSC

 

[BicycleHorse]

Eh di pwede pwede na sanang bigyan ng linaw ni madumb lenlen kung totoo ba yung ginawa ni digong sa kanya since both of them are private citizen

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haha tatanggapin ko yan if the narrative is based on physical evidence, but if heresay lang naman nakaka hiya yan

isn't that DDS are good at believing and rellaying fake narratives? Up until they can't prove that we have a President who is a drug addict. Majority of BBB project was been adopted from the previous administrations.

hehe for the record, hindi ito NSC boss, yung pinapakalat nila is about sa resignation ni VP Leni from the cabinet at hindi sa NSC, it still doesn't change the fact na kahit nag resign ang VP ni digong ay never niya pinaki-alaman ang membership ni VP Leni to NSC

There's no resignation happened. Du30 just desist her from attending all Cabinet meetings even without EO. Can you send links of your claims?

 

[ZummerSoltice]

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isn't that DDS are good at believing and rellaying fake narratives? Up until they can't prove that we have a President who is a drug addict. Majority of BBB project was been adopted from the previous administrations.


There's no resignation happened. Du30 just desist her from attending all Cabinet meetings even without EO. Can you send links of your claims?

For the record anu namang gagawin ni lenlen under digong wing's....Ultimo housing nga palpak at gusto pa magbida-bida.

Mama posted it. FYI.

 

[UY Scuti]

haha as if sure na sure na hindi demonyo ang US or as if sure na sure na demonyo talaga ang China? i would rather prefer a balanced approach to national security than removing all oppositions which disables the check and balance altogether, i also don't think bangag jr. makes better decisions than all the past presidents when all i see is puro kabangagan in his approach to every problem in the country

Okay, please don’t put words into my mouth. I dislike both China and the US equally. However, we cannot address the issues with China without the help of the US. The current problems in the West Philippine Sea (WPS) were largely caused by Duterte’s China-centric approach, which backfired badly. He assumed that becoming a lapdog to China would make them relinquish their claims to the WPS, but it didn’t work.

On the other side, during DU30's term, the PCG had no freedom to release information about the WPS because the policy of his administration was that only Malacañang could comment on WPS issues. The DND, AFP, and PCG were previously limited in reacting to WPS matters. Therefore, there was NO TRANSPARENCY! So yes, the gentleman's agreement between Xi and DU30 is somewhat true. No wonder many of the DDS are so misinformed about the WPS issue. But this is not the case with the current administration they're all for transparency about the issue in WPS.

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[ZummerSoltice]

Okay, please don’t put words into my mouth. I dislike both China and the US equally. However, we cannot address the issues with China without the help of the US. The current problems in the West Philippine Sea (WPS) were largely caused by Duterte’s China-centric approach, which backfired badly. He assumed that becoming a lapdog to China would make them relinquish their claims to the WPS, but it didn’t work.

On the other side, during DU30's term, the PCG had no freedom to release information about the WPS because the policy of his administration was that only Malacañang could comment on WPS issues. The DND, AFP, and PCG were previously limited in reacting to WPS matters. Therefore, there was NO TRANSPARENCY! So yes, the gentleman's agreement between Xi and DU30 is somewhat true. No wonder many of the DDS are so misinformed about the WPS issue. But this is not the case with the current administration they're all for transparency about the issue in WPS.

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Yet di nila kayang buhosan man lang ng tubig isang insik kahit nasa tabi na ang mga kano. What a shame. So all barks ..no bite...

 

[UY Scuti]

Yet di nila kayang buhosan man lang ng tubig isang insik kahit nasa tabi na ang mga kano. What a shame. So all barks ..no bite...

Yeah, that's very barbaric, a common trait of a DDS. That's not what we want; we don't start wars, we want what is ours in a peaceful, diplomatic way. But considering you're a DDS, I doubt you'll be able to connect the dots.

 

[ZummerSoltice]

Yeah, that's very barbaric, a common trait of a DDS. That's not what we want; we don't start wars, we want what is ours in a peaceful, diplomatic way. But considering you're a DDS, I doubt you'll be able to connect the dots.

What a sham....so paanu mo yan gagawin? peaceful at diplomatic ways daw pero andun yung kano sa likod. How many times China wants bilateral talks yet...since uto-uto at tuta ng Kano. Well...Since I doubt also you are belong to the self righteous group,I doubt magegets mo yan. Yah...Peaceful... Diplomatic ways...
You can't talk peace and have a gun...

 

[UY Scuti]

What a sham....so paanu mo yan gagawin? peaceful at diplomatic ways daw pero andun yung kano sa likod. How many times China wants bilateral talks yet...since uto-uto at tuta ng Kano. Well...Since I doubt also you are belong to the self righteous group,I doubt magegets mo yan. Yah...Peaceful... Diplomatic ways...
You can't talk peace and have a gun...

Are you for real? We've already had 9 bilateral talks with China, and they all end the same way: they don't want us in our own waters. You really can't be this dumb, thinking that we Filipinos don't want bilateral talks with them. Again, you, as a DDS, won't comprehend these things. You're not even a nationalist; you're a DDS because you're a Duterte fanatic.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/philippine-says-be-relentless-protecting-interests-south-china-sea-2024-07-02/

 

[ZummerSoltice]

Are you for real? We've already had 9 bilateral talks with China, and they all end the same way: they don't want us in our own waters. You really can't be this dumb, thinking that we Filipinos don't want bilateral talks with them. Again, you, as a DDS, won't comprehend these things. You're not even a nationalist; you're a DDS because you're a Duterte fanatic.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/philippine-says-be-relentless-protecting-interests-south-china-sea-2024-07-02/

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When someone says, "The West Philippine Sea is ours" you need to remind them that that is not necessarily true.

First. Is there West Philippine Sea? How many people recognize it? Is it in our maps? Didn't the Permanent Court of Arbitration entitle the case with the term "South China Sea"?

Second. "ours" implies ownership. But ownership is a bundle of rights. Among them, possession, alientation, usufruct. In fact ownership is defined as the holding of a thing and the exercise of a right (Civil Code).

We do not hold all rights over our EEZ, except the right to explore and exploit what lies under the surface.

So it is incorrect to say we "own" the WPS. If it exists.

Are you for real? We've already had 9 bilateral talks with China, and they all end the same way: they don't want us in our own waters. You really can't be this dumb, thinking that we Filipinos don't want bilateral talks with them. Again, you, as a DDS, won't comprehend these things. You're not even a nationalist; you're a DDS because you're a Duterte fanatic.

https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/philippine-says-be-relentless-protecting-interests-south-china-sea-2024-07-02/

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Again..
WPS is NOT territory. Territory of the Philippines ends 12NM from its archipelagic baseline. Sovereign rights, which applies to the EEZ, is NOT sovereignty because the EEZ is NOT territory.

 

[UY Scuti]

When someone says, "The West Philippine Sea is ours" you need to remind them that that is not necessarily true.

First. Is there West Philippine Sea? How many people recognize it? Is it in our maps? Didn't the Permanent Court of Arbitration entitle the case with the term "South China Sea"?

Second. "ours" implies ownership. But ownership is a bundle of rights. Among them, possession, alientation, usufruct. In fact ownership is defined as the holding of a thing and the exercise of a right (Civil Code).

We do not hold all rights over our EEZ, except the right to explore and exploit what lies under the surface.

So it is incorrect to say we "own" the WPS. If it exists.


Again..
WPS is NOT territory. Territory of the Philippines ends 12NM from its archipelagic baseline. Sovereign rights, which applies to the EEZ, is NOT sovereignty because the EEZ is NOT territory.

Yes, I agree that the WPS is not part of our territory, but it is within OUR EEZ. Therefore, China cannot drive away our fishermen or stop us from using our marine resources. Just because it’s called the South China Sea doesn’t mean China owns it. It’s like the Baltic Sea, which isn’t owned by any one country, even though it borders countries like Sweden, Finland, and Russia. The Baltic Sea is shared by many nations, each with its own territorial waters and EEZs, based on international law, especially UNCLOS. So why can't China follow the same rules? Again, the problem is not on our side. But hey, if you choose to stay misinformed, that’s the only legacy Duterte has left for his supporters.

 

[ZummerSoltice]

Yes, I agree that the WPS is not part of our territory, but it is within OUR EEZ. Therefore, China cannot drive away our fishermen or stop us from using our marine resources. Just because it’s called the South China Sea doesn’t mean China owns it. It’s like the Baltic Sea, which isn’t owned by any one country, even though it borders countries like Sweden, Finland, and Russia. The Baltic Sea is shared by many nations, each with its own territorial waters and EEZs, based on international law, especially UNCLOS. So why can't China follow the same rules? Again, the problem is not on our side. But hey, if you choose to stay misinformed, that’s the only legacy Duterte has left for his supporters.

Balik ka sa Arbitration Ruling kung anung pinaglalaban ng side natin tapos balik ka dito...and anu sa tingin mo bakit naging aggressive ang mga chikwa to drive us down...One more thing, curious ako dun sa sinabi mong di tayo makaka-address sa mga chikwa kung di dahil sa mga kano. Anu ba naibigay ng tulong ng mga kano in addressing this kind of issues sa territorial dispute. Ganun ba talaga kaweak si bangag at need niya ng tulong ng mga kano to address this kind of matters?meron bang bilateral talks na nangingialam mga hindot na kano na yan. Lastly, Pakidouble check kaninong admin at policy mga mangingisda natin may layang nakapangisda sa sinasabing WPS...

 

[BicycleHorse]

For the record anu namang gagawin ni lenlen under digong wing's....Ultimo housing nga palpak at gusto pa magbida-bida.

Funny how you throw shade at Leni but forget the facts.

Her housing efforts weren’t failures—she launched "Angat Buhay," helping over 300,000 families with housing and community programs. Leni worked with transparency and focused on real solutions, not seeking the spotlight.

Criticizing her for trying to make a difference under Duterte just shows ignorance about how governance works—it’s about collaboration, not showboating. Maybe you should focus on her actual contributions instead of resorting to name-calling from the sidelines.

 

[plhbg1]

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receipt? yung pag accuse niyo ng doing the same thing daw? pero VP Leni and the previous presidents were never removed naman pala from national security for the entire term of FPRRD

isn't that DDS are good at believing and rellaying fake narratives? Up until they can't prove that we have a President who is a drug addict. Majority of BBB project was been adopted from the previous administrations.

lol not interested sa irrelevant topics na yan, masisira lang yung thread, create ka ng separate thread at dun kita babanatan sa topic na yan

There's no resignation happened. Du30 just desist her from attending all Cabinet meetings even without EO. Can you send links of your claims?

are you sure hindi siya nag tender ng resignation after niya matanggap yung message? ilang media din yung nag cover nun bigyan kita isang article if tamad ka

 

[ZummerSoltice]

Kaya pala sya lumutang sa baha...okay.noted

Funny how you throw shade at Leni but forget the facts.

Her housing efforts weren’t failures—she launched "Angat Buhay," helping over 300,000 families with housing and community programs. Leni worked with transparency and focused on real solutions, not seeking the spotlight.

Criticizing her for trying to make a difference under Duterte just shows ignorance about how governance works—it’s about collaboration, not showboating. Maybe you should focus on her actual contributions instead of resorting to name-calling from the sidelines.

 

[plhbg1]

However, we cannot address the issues with China without the help of the US.

so na-address nga ba? or nag escalate hahaha

The current problems in the West Philippine Sea (WPS) were largely caused by Duterte’s China-centric approach, which backfired badly. He assumed that becoming a lapdog to China would make them relinquish their claims to the WPS, but it didn’t work.

i don't think the gentlemen's agreement didn't work and i don't think it's lapdog but i call it knowing how to play the game

On the other side, during DU30's term, the PCG had no freedom to release information about the WPS because the policy of his administration was that only Malacañang could comment on WPS issues. The DND, AFP, and PCG were previously limited in reacting to WPS matters. Therefore, there was NO TRANSPARENCY! So yes, the gentleman's agreement between Xi and DU30 is somewhat true. No wonder many of the DDS are so misinformed about the WPS issue. But this is not the case with the current administration they're all for transparency about the issue in WPS.

haha so nakabuti ba ngayong kahit sino na lang nagsasalita about WPS? or baka mas lalo lang naging obvious yung lack of coordination nila

 

[BicycleHorse]

are you sure hindi siya nag tender ng resignation after niya matanggap yung message? ilang media din yung nag cover nun bigyan kita isang article if tamad ka

Yes, you're correct. Leni did resign from Duterte's Cabinet after receiving a directive to stop attending meetings, but this was due to "major differences" in principles and values, not mere laziness or incompetence.

receipt? yung pag accuse niyo ng doing the same thing daw? pero VP Leni and the previous presidents were never removed naman pala from national security for the entire term of FPRRD

Leni’s limited attendance at National Security Council meetings wasn’t incompetence—it was the Duterte administration excluding her, favoring loyalty over good governance.

She criticized Duterte’s policies on human rights and the drug war, which led to her being sidelined, not because she lacked capability.

Unlike her predecessors, she faced these challenges, staying in her position despite disagreements. This is in stark contrast to the current VP, who recently removed after threatening the President.

 

[plhbg1]

Yes, you're correct. Leni did resign from Duterte's Cabinet after receiving a directive to stop attending meetings, but this was due to "major differences" in principles and values, not mere laziness or incompetence.

correct and despite this major major bossing Duterte still respected VP Leni and the previous presidents' membership to the National Security

Leni’s limited attendance at National Security Council meetings wasn’t incompetence—it was the Duterte administration excluding her, favoring loyalty over good governance.

haha tini-twist mo na naman yung information bossing, wag mo kasing pag isahin ang cabinet at NSC kasi ibang iba yan sila, wag kang mag spread ng twisted information dito sa forum

 

[ZummerSoltice]

Yes, you're correct. Leni did resign from Duterte's Cabinet after receiving a directive to stop attending meetings, but this was due to "major differences" in principles and values, not mere laziness or incompetence.


Leni’s limited attendance at National Security Council meetings wasn’t incompetence—it was the Duterte administration excluding her, favoring loyalty over good governance.

She criticized Duterte’s policies on human rights and the drug war, which led to her being sidelined, not because she lacked capability.

Unlike her predecessors, she faced these challenges, staying in her position despite disagreements. This is in stark contrast to the current VP, who recently removed after threatening the President.

Pek news ka pala eh

 

[BicycleHorse]

correct and despite this major major bossing Duterte still respected VP Leni and the previous presidents' membership to the National Security

It’s ironic how you claim to understand governance yet miss the point. Duterte may have "respected" Leni, but sidelining her from NSC and Cabinet meetings shows otherwise. Attending only one meeting due to exclusionary tactics isn’t respect—it’s dismissal of her input.

Real leadership requires collaboration and inclusivity, qualities Duterte’s administration clearly lacked.

haha tini-twist mo na naman yung information bossing, wag mo kasing pag isahin ang cabinet at NSC kasi ibang iba yan sila, wag kang mag spread ng twisted information dito sa forum

Ako pa talaga ang inaakusahan mo ng pag twist ng katotohanan, pero ikaw naman ang gumagawa ng maling dibisyon sa pagitan ng Gabinete at NSC. Parehong mahalaga ang dalawang ito sa pamahalaan, at hindi pwedeng balewalain ang koneksyon nila.

Simple lang ang katotohanan: sinadya si Leni na alisin sa mga meeting sa parehong Gabinete at NSC, hindi dahil kulang siya sa kakayahan, kundi dahil pinili ni Duterte na alisin ang mga tumututol sa kanyang mga balak.

Madaling ipagtanggol ang kwento, pero mas mahirap hanapin ang katotohanan.