🔒 Closed Peter and Judas the Iscariot

[Kulantoy]

matatawag mo pa din ba sila na disciple ni Jesus sa kabila ng ginawa nila Peter at Judas the Iscariot at ano ang pinagkaiba nila? free to comment your opinion, wag lang po mag dedebate ha. btw i am a baptist

 

[A P O Y]

Sino yan ts

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Morally speaking, yes they are still disciples. It is unfortunate na sila ung mga nakasulat sa bibliya may mga gawa na itinuturing na "hindi dapat tularan". They are definitely inafamous amongst Christians. Pero that does not disqualify them as disciples.

If you think about it, that is the beauty of the New Testament. Despite the fact na nakagawa ng pagkakamali ang mga apostles na ito, hindi sila itinakwil ni Jesus. Because he is wise enough to know na likas sa tao ang maligaw ng landas, kung kaya nga kailangan sya ng mga ito upang magsilbing tagapagturo nila. Ito nga ang itinuturo ng Parable of the lost sheep (Luke 15 : 1-7).

Hindi ba't isang kahambugan ng mga kristyano itakwil sila Peter at Judas, kung si Jesus nga ay tinanggap sila? Hindi ba't kapatawaran din ang hanap ng isang Kristyano? Bakit nila ito ipagkakait sa mga taong direktang nagsilbi kay Jesus? Atheist nga pla ako btw.

 

[Kulantoy]

Morally speaking, yes they are still disciples. It is unfortunate na sila ung mga nakasulat sa bibliya may mga gawa na itinuturing na "hindi dapat tularan". Pero that does not disqualify them as disciples.

If you think about it, that is the beauty of the New Testament. Despite the fact na nakagawa ng pagkakamali ang mga apostles na ito, hindi sila itinakwil ni Jesus. Because he is wise enough to know na likas sa tao ang maligaw ng landas, kung kaya nga kailangan sya ng mga ito upang magsilbing tagapagturo nila. Ito nga ang itinuturo ng Parable of the lost sheep (Luke 15 : 1-7).

Hindi ba't isang kahambugan ng mga kristyano itakwil sila Peter at Judas, kung si Jesus nga ay tinanggap sila? Hindi ba't kapatawaran din ang hanap ng isang Kristyano? Bakit nila ito ipagkakait sa mga taong direktang nagsilbi kay Jesus? Atheist nga pla ako btw.

salamat paps sa commento

 

[shazz3113]

If we continue reading the Bible after Matthew,Mark,Luke and John,we can see Peter continue preaching the Gospel,and he is still a disciple,that is also for the case of Judas,despite his trechery he was still a disciple,but never lived long enough to repent, for ending his life. There are more disciples that have been replaced each time someone be persecuted for sharing the Gospel.

 

[Kulantoy]

If we continue reading the Bible after Matthew,Mark,Luke and John,we can see Peter continue preaching the Gospel,and he is still a disciple,that is also for the case of Judas,despite his trechery he was still a disciple,but never lived long enough to repent, for ending his life. There are more disciples that have been replaced each time someone be persecuted for sharing the Gospel.

salamat po paps sa commento

 

[plhbg1]

if god/jesus isn't portrayed as all-knowing in the story then malamang kicked in the ass na ang mga iyan, but since all-knowing naman pala then it is not surprising to someone who knows the future, almost doesn't matter at all and the all-knowing has chosen them as disciples anyways, iyon ang view ko as a reader

 

[Kulantoy]

if god/jesus isn't portrayed as all-knowing in the story then malamang kicked in the ass na ang mga iyan, but since all-knowing naman pala then it is not surprising to someone who knows the future, almost doesn't matter at all and the all-knowing has chosen them as disciples anyways, iyon ang view ko as a reader

ok paps maraming sa commento

 

[imp4La]

Yes