🔒 Closed Why did Albert Einstein believe in God but Stephen Hawking didn't even though both were geniuses?

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do you mind explaining the relevance?

it is because i don't shop for some classification and adjust myself to fit into whatever classification i like/choose
U proclaimed urself to be an agnostic db??
it is because i don't shop for some classification and adjust myself to fit into whatever classification i like/choose
So those people should agree with u, drop their labels, post some ideas from attached to those labels that should’ve drop so people can have something to talk about…

For someone who does not shop for some sort of classification you seem to be obsessed with “atheistic” ideas…

yeah correct and it will take for someone to provide a convincing reason first before i can change my mind, without that reason all ideas will be trashed
Nawawala na pagkascientific mo… nagmumuka ka nmang theistic ngayon 😑
 
U proclaimed urself to be an agnostic db??
i tagged myself as agnostic for sake of tagging since for me pinaka malapit ang agnostic sa mga stand ko but that doesn't mean i am re-arranging myself to fit into the agnostic idea
So those people should agree with u, drop their labels, post some ideas from attached to those labels that should’ve drop so people can have something to talk about…

For someone who does not shop for some sort of classification you seem to be obsessed with “atheistic” ideas…
nagkataon lang na meron ganoong feature ang atheism but that doesn't mean na intention ko talagang kopyahin ang mga atheistic features
Nawawala na pagkascientific mo… nagmumuka ka nmang theistic ngayon 😑
ows? are you sure a theist ay naghahanap ng reason?
 
i tagged myself as agnostic for sake of tagging since for me pinaka malapit ang agnostic sa mga stand ko but that doesn't mean i am re-arranging myself to fit into the agnostic idea

nagkataon lang na meron ganoong feature ang atheism but that doesn't mean na intention ko talagang kopyahin ang mga atheistic features

ows? are you sure a theist ay naghahanap ng reason?
Iwas na iwas ka talaga sa atheism eh noh…

Kung closest pala sa stand mo ung ideas ng agnosticism them why arent you posting more topics sa agnosticism…mukang madami ng features ang atheism na “nagkataon” naka align sa stand mo na nagmumuka ka ng atheist na ayaw mo nman malabel as one.. hahaha

i tagged myself as agnostic for sake of tagging since for me pinaka malapit ang agnostic sa mga stand ko but that doesn't mean i am re-arranging myself to fit into the agnostic idea

nagkataon lang na meron ganoong feature ang atheism but that doesn't mean na intention ko talagang kopyahin ang mga atheistic features

ows? are you sure a theist ay naghahanap ng reason?
Nag agree ka self-affirming lang stand mo eh… ur just confirming ur biases…un lang iaaccept mo kamo… most theists think that way as well…
 
Iwas na iwas ka talaga sa atheism eh noh…

Kung closest pala sa stand mo ung ideas ng agnosticism them why arent you posting more topics sa agnosticism…mukang madami ng features ang atheism na “nagkataon” naka align sa stand mo na nagmumuka ka ng atheist na ayaw mo nman malabel as one.. hahaha
actually ok lang sa akin tawagin atheist, doesn't matter naman, but i still prefer calling myself agnostic hehe iba iba kasi preference natin, kung tawagin mo ako atheist yes tawagin mo lang ako but don't force me to call myself as one
Nag agree ka self-affirming lang stand mo eh… ur just confirming ur biases…un lang iaaccept mo kamo… most theists think that way as well…
of course i strengthen what i am holding, kaya nga yung reason must be convincing muna before i change my mind kasi matitibay na itong hinahawakan kong mga info ang dami ko nang nahanap na confirmation of my biases
 
actually ok lang sa akin tawagin atheist, doesn't matter naman, but i still prefer calling myself agnostic hehe iba iba kasi preference natin, kung tawagin mo ako atheist yes tawagin mo lang ako but don't force me to call myself as one

of course i strengthen what i am holding, kaya nga yung reason must be convincing muna before i change my mind kasi matitibay na itong hinahawakan kong mga info ang dami ko nang nahanap na confirmation of my biases
Anong reason must be convincing eh nag agree ka nga na ang iaaccept mo lang ung nag-aagree sa current paniniwala mo… eh di reject ka lang reject sa mga bagay na di nagcoconform sa paniniwala mo… gusto mo lang pala ng consistent pat in the back…
 
kung tawagin mo ako atheist yes tawagin mo lang ako but don't force me to call myself as one
Hindi k "finoforce". Binibigyan ka lng ng information kung ano ang technical definition ng ideas na sinasabi mo. Ikaw din nagsabi na labels are not a big deal, pero seems like a big deal to you na tawagin agnostic ang sarili mo kahit hindi pasok ang ideas mo to what it means.
 
Hindi k "finoforce". Binibigyan ka lng ng information kung ano ang technical definition ng ideas na sinasabi mo. Ikaw din nagsabi na labels are not a big deal, pero seems like a big deal to you na tawagin agnostic ang sarili mo kahit hindi pasok ang ideas mo to what it means.
ehehe i still have differences with agnostic idea, i don't agree sa pre-judging nila na "cannot be known", so tama ka di nga ako pasok sa agnostic kaya yung reason ko to call myself agnostic is just the closeness instead of fitness
Anong reason must be convincing eh nag agree ka nga na ang iaaccept mo lang ung nag-aagree sa current paniniwala mo… eh di reject ka lang reject sa mga bagay na di nagcoconform sa paniniwala mo… gusto mo lang pala ng consistent pat in the back…
it's just a bias or tendency, i tend to reject those hindi aligned but their details still come to my attention and are not exempted from being analyzed, and it already happened many times, even you have corrected me back then
 
so tama ka di nga ako pasok sa agnostic kaya yung reason ko to call myself agnostic is just the closeness instead of fitness
It is not close. What you are saying is the complete opposite. Kung closeness ang usapan, then why not atheist? Atheism is simply disbelief in god.. or a simply being unconvinced by the so-called "evidence".
It is not about certainty or being sure. It is as simple as "as far as i know...."
 
It is not close. What you are saying is the complete opposite. Kung closeness ang usapan, then why not atheist? Atheism is simply disbelief in god.. or a simply being unconvinced by the so-called "evidence".
It is not about certainty or being sure. It is as simple as "as far as i know...."
nope, it is not about you, it is about my standard of closeness and not yours, kaya nga sabi ko call me whatever you want and not force me to do the same to myself
 
nope, it is not about you, it is about my standard of closeness and not yours, kaya nga sabi ko call me whatever you want and not force me to do the same to myself
Anong not about me? Did i say it is about me? These word have their objective definition.. it is not "my definition"
 
Sina Albert Einstein at Stephen Hawking ay parehong mga henyo sa larangan ng siyensiya na nakapagbigay ng malaking ambag sa ating pag-unawa sa kalawakan. Gayunpaman, magkaiba ang kanilang pananaw tungkol sa pagkakaroon ng Diyos.

Si Einstein ay naniniwala sa isang Diyos na lumikha ng kalawakan at ng mga batas nito, ngunit hindi siya naniniwala sa isang personal na Diyos na nakikialam sa mga gawain ng sangkatauhan. Isang beses niyang sinabi, "Ako'y naniniwala sa Diyos ni Spinoza, na nagpapakita sa kanyang sarili sa mapayapang pagkakasunud-sunod ng mundo, hindi sa isang Diyos na may kinalaman sa kapalaran at mga gawain ng sangkatauhan."

Sa kabilang banda, si Hawking ay isang ateista na naniniwala na ang kalawakan ay maaaring maipaliwanag sa pamamagitan ng mga batas ng siyensiya at hindi nangangailangan ng lumikha. Isang beses niyang sinulat, "Ginagamit ko ang salitang 'Diyos' bilang isang metapora para sa mga batas ng kalikasan, na produkto ng isang mas pundamental na antas ng organisasyon."

Ang mga dahilan ng kanilang magkaibang pananaw ay malamang na kumplikado at naapektuhan ng kanilang personal na karanasan at pilosopikal na pananaw. Bagamat parehong mga henyo sa kanilang larangan, hindi nangangahulugan na ang kanilang mga nagawa sa siyensiya ay nagdulot sa kanila ng parehong konklusyon tungkol sa pagkakaroon ng Diyos.
 
So you are intending to stick to your misunderstood definition of the words kahit sabihan ka what they really mean? That is counterproductive in learning and growing intellectually imho...
yup, i manipulate my own learning, that's correct i manipulate it to appear counterproductive to all of you and that maximizes my control over my self that even convention cannot dictate me
 
Anong not about me? Did i say it is about me? These word have their objective definition.. it is not "my definition"
This is going nowhere… mr scientific agnostic here operates via his own personal standards and definitions… lagi na lang may special pleading sa ideas na meron na sya at sa pagkakaintindi nea sa ideas na yun… na kesyo lagi na lang “I” is different from “you” or “yours”… mentality nea is like that of a theist eh.. pero syempre hindi sya aagree kasi iba na nmn ung personal interpretation at definition nea.. tssss… next topic na ko 😑
 
This is going nowhere… mr scientific agnostic here operates via his own personal standards and definitions… lagi na lang may special pleading sa ideas na meron na sya at sa pagkakaintindi nea sa ideas na yun… na kesyo lagi na lang “I” is different from “you” or “yours”… mentality nea is like that of a theist eh.. pero syempre hindi sya aagree kasi iba na nmn ung personal interpretation at definition nea.. tssss… next topic na ko 😑
yeah it is going nowhere kasi di ako masyadong compliant sa community katulad ninyo, what you want me to do i can't do it lalo na yung mga compliance to convention, but if you wanna debate still andito lang din ako hehe
 
yeah it is going nowhere kasi di ako masyadong compliant sa community katulad ninyo, what you want me to do i can't do it lalo na yung mga compliance to convention, but if you wanna debate still andito lang din ako hehe
And thats the problem.. hindi nman pd na ang isang discussion eh mag ooperate lang based on an individual’s idea.. u contradict other ideas at sasabihin na this group is like this and this one is like that… that science is like this or that.. pero pag ideas mo nacriticize using that same logic eh ang iaassert mo namn eh iba kasi ung “personal” na ideas mo etc… you just keep on shifting the goal post where it would benefit u eh… walang mapupuntahan yan
 
And thats the problem.. hindi nman pd na ang isang discussion eh mag ooperate lang based on an individual’s idea.. u contradict other ideas at sasabihin na this group is like this and this one is like that… that science is like this or that.. pero pag ideas mo nacriticize using that same logic eh ang iaassert mo namn eh iba kasi ung “personal” na ideas mo etc… you just keep on shifting the goal post where it would benefit u eh… walang mapupuntahan yan
yup pag hindi na scientific ang topic then wala na talagang kinalaman si science doon, pag philosophy na pinag-uusapan talagang self ko yung basis ko at hindi yung turo ng philosophers
 
yeah it is going nowhere kasi di ako masyadong compliant sa community katulad ninyo, what you want me to do i can't do it lalo na yung mga compliance to convention, but if you wanna debate still andito lang din ako hehe
Agreeing on word definition is not about being compliant. It is just how communication works.
yup pag hindi na scientific ang topic then wala na talagang kinalaman si science doon, pag philosophy na pinag-uusapan talagang self ko yung basis ko at hindi yung turo ng philosophers
There is nothing philosophical about words' definition. And what is wrong with referring to a philosopher? It is not as if our ideas are unique. You probably are just not too well read with these philosophers that is why you think your ideas are unique. But if you are, you would realize that no idea is truly unique.
 
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