🔒 Closed Why did Albert Einstein believe in God but Stephen Hawking didn't even though both were geniuses?

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so bakit mo sinabing being atheist makes me smart haha let me quote:
Sinasabi ko nga sayo na hindi nga ganun yun. Kahit baliktarin mo pa. And you made this post originally, wanting to imply you are smarter because you are an atheist. And atheist are smarter. It is a false dichotomy.
 
Sinasabi ko nga sayo na hindi nga ganun yun. Kahit baliktarin mo pa. And you made this post originally, wanting to imply you are smarter because you are an atheist. And atheist are smarter. It is a false dichotomy.
so you think i am smarter? kasi wala ako mahanap sa posts ko that claimed i am smarter hehe i think it is just you that's thinking i am smarter haha
Pano mo nasabi lods na si Einstein talaga ang nagsabi nyan?

At walang scientist ang naniniwala kay god o namay god, kung naniniwala sila kay god (pwera nalang kung natauhan nya sya at nagbaho ang pananaw) bakit hindi nila pinapaniwalaan ang true bible at sa halip sa sariling kaalaman o sarili nilang explanation sila mas naniniwala.
so for you einstein is unbeliever just like stephen hawking?
 
Correlation is not causation. Simple. I believe inexplain ko na sayo yan doon sa post mo with that false claim.

There are outside factors that can make a person religious and less intelligence, like financial factors, environment etc.

You can not make them more intelligent by simply making them an atheist. You should deal with the outside factor instead.
Interesting Sir!
 
ang belief ni Einstein ay almost but much complex sa deism, ang god ni einstein ay malayo sa monotheistic god ng christianty, judaism at islam

Contrary to popular (atheist) belief, Atheism does not make you a genius. Theism does not make one stupid.

For example, in the study of quantum physics, Einstein and Bohr had a decade long debate which was not concluded while Einstein was alive.

It was settled by some hippies who are involved in esoteric and occult beliefs.
pede paki elaborate mo paps😅 what do you mean settled by hippies who are involved in esoteric and occult belief?

madami scientists ang may interest sa esoteric and occult practices, lalo na sa alchemy at hermeticism..
 
ehehe kasi yung most debatable topics nasa atheism and i want some threads na interactive and anything can be posted, well i know there are higher powers but at least on my level i always make my threads un-moderated and see all kinds of ideas flowing without being censored
Is it really about being “most debatable topics” and “interactice”?? Tapos u end up defending the atheistic ideas of ur threads… pero ayaw mo malabel as atheist… keeewl…
 
Is it really about being “most debatable topics” and “interactice”?? Tapos u end up defending the atheistic ideas of ur threads… pero ayaw mo malabel as atheist… keeewl…
natanong na din ni EroKaiLogo ito, i am defending my way of choosing topics instead of defending my belief as if i'm atheist, i only choose an atheist topic coz it's debatable and any argument against it is an attack to my ways of choosing topics that is why it looks like i'm defending atheism but i actually defend the way i choose, hindi pwedeng walang debate na mangyayari or else mali ang topic na pinili ko hehe
 
ang belief ni Einstein ay almost but much complex sa deism, ang god ni einstein ay malayo sa monotheistic god ng christianty, judaism at islam


pede paki elaborate mo paps😅 what do you mean settled by hippies who are involved in esoteric and occult belief?

madami scientists ang may interest sa esoteric and occult practices, lalo na sa alchemy at hermeticism..
Eto mga nabanggit ko mgabspiritualist yata. Mga naniniwala sa mga psychic.
 
Contrary to popular (atheist) belief, Atheism does not make you a genius. Theism does not make one stupid.
Ive heard some fellow atheists say na just because theyve let go of their beliefs and somehow they think they are better than others.. i dont share that view.. i also dont mind what those geniuses believe… i look at what they can prove or proven

natanong na din ni EroKaiLogo ito, i am defending my way of choosing topics instead of defending my belief as if i'm atheist, i only choose an atheist topic coz it's debatable and any argument against it is an attack to my ways of choosing topics that is why it looks like i'm defending atheism but i actually defend the way i choose, hindi pwedeng walang debate na mangyayari or else mali ang topic na pinili ko hehe
Ha?? Your literally defending ur literal topic… nu pinagsasabi mo??

Kung ang gusto mo idefend ung “choice” mo or ur way of choosing it then pag usapan na lang kung an agnostic like you can posts topics that portray an atheistics idea…isang beses mo lang need idefend… kung yan madali sagutin.. yes lang yan.

Or pd mo aminin na u agree sa atheistic ideas at wag mo sabihin na “as if ur an atheist” lang
 
Ive heard some fellow atheists say na just because theyve let go of their beliefs and somehow they think they are better than others.. i dont share that view.. i also dont mind what those geniuses believe… i look at what they can prove or proven
Sometimes nmn tlga ganyan. Napipigilan kasi ng religion ang isip sa mga tanong na dapat tanungin. However, silang nakaranas ng "freedom" ng isip, they falsely generalize believers to be like them.

Kaya lng nmn ganyan kasi sa kultura natin binibinyagan tayo bago pa tayo magkaroon ng isip. So namimix up ng mga former-theist yung mga taong naghahanap ng sagot sa mga tanong outside physics na parang katulad din nila.

Pero ayon nga kay aristotle, he coined the word "metaphysics" for this kind of questions, (example of metaphysical questions You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) dahil we are meant to be searched for 'after' physics. Yan ang literal na meaning ng "metaphysics". Tapos religion din minsan ang puntahan natin for this questions. This happens usually at midlife or later.. that is why we see older people "restoring" their faith.
 
Eto mga nabanggit ko mgabspiritualist yata. Mga naniniwala sa mga psychic.
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naniniwala ka ba sa lahat ng sinabi nya (kung sino man yang nasa video)? its not entitrely true that Einsten refused the quantum mechanics, we can just say he was skeptics in quantum mechanics which is rooted in his philosophical belief na ang physical reality ay base sa deterministic laws, sa katunayan ay may novel prize siya sa physics sa dahil sa pananaliksik nya sa photoelectectric, einsteins explanation of photoelectric effect established the of wave/particle duality, which is central on quantum mechanics, his idea that light can behave like particles challenged the long standing old wave theory of light it became a major step on the development of quantum mechanics. Kaya yang sinasabi dyan sa video na hate ni Einstein ang quantum mechanics ay napaka unfounded at malayo sa katotohanan.

at itutuwid lang natin yong sinabi nya na conciousness affects reality, there is NO conclusive scientific evidence that consciousness directly affects reality in the way that some philosophical and spiritual traditions sugges, there are no clear mechanism which consciousness could affect thereality, laws of physics and chemistry which is the governing factor on the behavior of matter and energy are well established, it does not allow arbitrary changes base on subjective experiences, and we should remember this, claims that conciousness affects the reality are most often base on philosophical and spiritual beliefs rather than scientific evidence, i can sight several reasons why the claim that consciousness affects reality is not supported by scientific evidence, katamad lang magsulat ng mahaba.. yon mga ganyan videos ang rason kaya tinigil ko panunuod at pinamigay ko na yung account ko sa gaia.com 😅
 
naniniwala ka ba sa lahat ng sinabi nya (kung sino man yang nasa video)? its not entitrely true that Einsten refused the quantum mechanics, we can just say he was skeptics in quantum mechanics which is rooted in his philosophical belief na ang physical reality ay base sa deterministic laws, sa katunayan ay may novel prize siya sa physics sa dahil sa pananaliksik nya sa photoelectectric, einsteins explanation of photoelectric effect established the of wave/particle duality, which is central on quantum mechanics, his idea that light can behave like particles challenged the long standing old wave theory of light it became a major step on the development of quantum mechanics. Kaya yang sinasabi dyan sa video na hate ni Einstein ang quantum mechanics ay napaka unfounded at malayo sa katotohanan.

at itutuwid lang natin yong sinabi nya na conciousness affects reality, there is NO conclusive scientific evidence that consciousness directly affects reality in the way that some philosophical and spiritual traditions sugges, there are no clear mechanism which consciousness could affect thereality, laws of physics and chemistry which is the governing factor on the behavior of matter and energy are well established, it does not allow arbitrary changes base on subjective experiences, and we should remember this, claims that conciousness affects the reality are most often base on philosophical and spiritual beliefs rather than scientific evidence, i can sight several reasons why the claim that consciousness affects reality is not supported by scientific evidence, katamad lang magsulat ng mahaba.. yon mga ganyan videos ang rason kaya tinigil ko panunuod at pinamigay ko na yung account ko sa gaia.com 😅
Actually dapat din alam mo ung context kung saan part nag disagree si einstein, at the same time, ahinare ko lng ung video para lng maipakita ung mga klase ng mga tao naka "solve" ng debate na yan.

Actually ung part na nag disagree si einstein ay (1)yung idea na may mga elements ang quantum physics na probability lang until it is observed/measured. Para daw kasing sinasabi ng theory na ito na hindi nag eexist ang buwan hanggang sa may taong nag-oobserve na nito, Saka (2)yung idea na nagcocomunicate ang dalawang particle ng photon [faster than speed of light] to form a wave pattern as observed.

Anyway, pinost ko ung video to answer only the part kung sino ba ung mga "esoteric hippies" na tinutukoy ko, at wala tlga ako interes sa paniniwala nung video at nung hippies na nasabi. It is jut to prove na involvement in false believe has anything to do with stupidity kasi clearly may alam yang mga tao na yan.
 
Ive heard some fellow atheists say na just because theyve let go of their beliefs and somehow they think they are better than others.. i dont share that view.. i also dont mind what those geniuses believe… i look at what they can prove or proven


Ha?? Your literally defending ur literal topic… nu pinagsasabi mo??

Kung ang gusto mo idefend ung “choice” mo or ur way of choosing it then pag usapan na lang kung an agnostic like you can posts topics that portray an atheistics idea…isang beses mo lang need idefend… kung yan madali sagutin.. yes lang yan.

Or pd mo aminin na u agree sa atheistic ideas at wag mo sabihin na “as if ur an atheist” lang
nope it is atheism that needs to agree with me, same with agnosticism it should agree with me, not me to agree on any of them
 
nope it is atheism that needs to agree with me, same with agnosticism it should agree with me, not me to agree on any of them
You remind me of this clipart:
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Whic I used in Smart People can have Bad ideas
 
Because the way you said it, it means you are the type of person who only accepts idea that agrees with your preexisting idea. All you are doing is self-affirming.
yeah correct and it will take for someone to provide a convincing reason first before i can change my mind, without that reason all ideas will be trashed
 
yeah correct and it will take for someone to provide a convincing reason first before i can change my mind, without that reason all ideas will be trashed
How do you know if the idea you are already holding is trash? You just end up collecting trash following your intellectual strategy.
 
How do you know if the idea you are already holding is trash? You just end up collecting trash following your intellectual strategy.
i will know it is trash when someone provides a convincing reason, i may be collecting trash but i operate on reasons, no reason no trashing
 
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