PHsaying "anyone of us can just set our own" is making my idea the only truth? hehe
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🕯️ Traditions MORALITY DIRECTS US TO GOD (Good Read)
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Gildarts Tale
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You're doing it already.
lol how on earth letting anyone set their own is making my idea the only truth?You're doing it already.
ikaw yung nag make sa idea mo na only truth kasi inalis mo ang capability ng anyone to set their own standard
Gildarts Tale
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On morals yes but not on other aspects. I believe in absolute that's obviously the reason why. Yet you as a relativist which should be the opposite yet believe that your version of morality is absolute.
Yes your letting my idea set their "own" yet you still insist your own. Are we in circles?
i can let it go so easily if there's a reason to do it, you know things that are dependent to one's opinion can never be absolute since they can always change their minds, i can change my mind, i can change what i believe, it just depends on me hehe nothing is absolute, previously i am like you following the god idea but this time i changed my mind, nothing is absolute for relativism sorry hehe
Gildarts Tale
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Yes, there's nothing absolute in relativism and that is where we are set apart. Here's the part that relativism falls apart, they think that everything is subject to change including morals, but they also think that relativism is the only truth, and they are absolutely sure about it.
Asherah Goddess
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Hindi objective ang morality. I mean if tutukuyin ang moral value, subjective po siya. Hindi objective.
Ang moral kase ay masasabi lang siya na tama o mabuti kung acceptable siya ng mas nakakarami as a whole sa loob ng lipunan.
Take example sa North Korea. Atheist ang karamihan ng mga tao doon dahil walang religion. Ang moral na ipinapagana doon as a whole sa loob ng lipunan na tipong kung ano ang right and wrong is iba ang moral sa Christian society katulad ng atin.
It is because sa North Korea ay iyon ang acceptable ng mas nakakarami.
Another example is moral value ng Islam at Pagan.
Sa Islam, majority of the people na taga Islam ay mabuti at tama ang maging polygamous o pwede mag-asawa ng maraming babae while in Pagan na for example, Pagan prietess though ito lang ang pagkaalala ko na priestess can be polyandrous. Its because meron kilalaman sa spiritual beliefs nila while in Christian, para sa kanila masama at mali iyon. Ang moral sa Christian kase ay kailangan monogamous.
Hindi ko siya macoconsider na objective. Masyadong subjective po siya.
Ang moral kase ay masasabi lang siya na tama o mabuti kung acceptable siya ng mas nakakarami as a whole sa loob ng lipunan.
Take example sa North Korea. Atheist ang karamihan ng mga tao doon dahil walang religion. Ang moral na ipinapagana doon as a whole sa loob ng lipunan na tipong kung ano ang right and wrong is iba ang moral sa Christian society katulad ng atin.
It is because sa North Korea ay iyon ang acceptable ng mas nakakarami.
Another example is moral value ng Islam at Pagan.
Sa Islam, majority of the people na taga Islam ay mabuti at tama ang maging polygamous o pwede mag-asawa ng maraming babae while in Pagan na for example, Pagan prietess though ito lang ang pagkaalala ko na priestess can be polyandrous. Its because meron kilalaman sa spiritual beliefs nila while in Christian, para sa kanila masama at mali iyon. Ang moral sa Christian kase ay kailangan monogamous.
Hindi ko siya macoconsider na objective. Masyadong subjective po siya.
it is true only for now, it can always change, my mind can change, no absolutes, always ready to treat it as false kung kaya mo ko i-convince hehethey also think that relativism is the only truth, and they are absolutely sure about it.
I suggest you read and study more on history (again) because my opinion about divine laws as necessity in order for human civilization to flourish and prosper is based on historical and factual events. Ironically, a known critic of religion (i.e. Nietzche) had predicted what would happen when society turned away to the divine - the famous quote 'God is dead'. This is my serious concern to many modern atheists. If the atheistic belief is purely based on logic and facts, how on earth can they not see the result of the largest social experiments of the 20th century that lead to, if not tens, hundreds of millions of people dead?
Away From Keyboard
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buang yan si Nietzche, bakit panay bigay nyu example sa kanya. sa mga philosophy major sila na nag sabi na mga gawa ni Nietzche ay hindi naman gaanon ka solido.
naku history is false, i only consider them as suggested events, i am establishing analysis out of them at yun ang ginagamit ko pang answer sa present encounters ko
naku hindi ako atheist, i just can't prove whether god exists or not, so agnostic lang ako di ako umabot doon sa god does not exist hehe
Excuse me but it is unnecessary to state your arrogance and intellectual inferiority here.
I did not say you are an atheist. I am just saying to, at least, consider the fundamental religious beliefs of mankind which has been tested through time, assuming your beliefs are grounded on logic and facts.
Good luck to your post-modern view of reality. I leave this quote to end the conversation: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana.
dumaan na ako diyan since birth until 2019, i have changed my mind and it's getting solid to find proof in everything, no proof no belief
there should be someone to condemn, you need us in order for your beliefs to come true hehe
Away From Keyboard
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si Nietzche lang kaya nya ma quote na nag adhere sa kanyang opinion. next stop si Einstein.
kaya ayaw ko sumali dito, different set of people same opinions. di ako napapa wow sa mga logic, kundi panirang logic lang.
kaya ayaw ko sumali dito, different set of people same opinions. di ako napapa wow sa mga logic, kundi panirang logic lang.
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