🕯️ Traditions What is atheism - a common misconception

[Legtamic]

70 years naging atheist state ang Soviet Union. Bawal ang religion dun noon, sinunog ang mga simbahan at pinatay ang mga sumasamba sa mga fairies.

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[ken_rebirth]

20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.

21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

Here is the exact words from bible. 'if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished'

yes, you'll be punished you ignorant non-back-reading asinine person.

and then this is your answer? you are contradicting what is in the bible. can you read this word? 'HE SHALL NOT BE PUNISHED'

i repeat, as per bible, if you beat your servant and didn't die, you will not get punished.
This is OBSCENE, its IMMORAL no matter how you juggle your words.
your bible is self-contradicting. you thought it only teaches good thing? well, welcome to the other side of the bible.

i'm gonna ask you again, would like to be my servant under that rule?

 

[xian04]

patambay nga dito makikibasa lang

 

[macjunard]

Malaki talaga impluwensiya ng religion sa mga tao; tulad nito makakita lang ng hugis Jesus at Mary sa pader, bato, kahoy at iba pa.. sinasamba agad nila. Yung iba pinopost pa sa social media para mag trending; yung iba kahit edited nauuto nagtatype pa ng AMEN

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

Mangmang! Kitang kita nakalagay na sa chart. "Percent who say religion is important in their daily lives" ung vertical line, ung 10, 20, 30 to 100. Un ung percentage ng mga religious. Wala pang 40% ang religious sa Russia. Di ka marunong magbasa ng chart.

Sisiw lang yang 85,000 at 200,000 sa tatlong kontinenteng pinatay ng mga baliw na naniniwala sa diyos! 150 million populasyon ng mga natives sa America. Nung dumating mga demonyong Kristyano nalipol silang lahat. Sa India 85 million naman ang pinatay nila. Ung black slavery sila rin ang nagpauso dahil utos daw ng diyos.

Salot ang religion sa mundo! Puro delubyo, karahasan, kahirapan, kamangmangan at kademonyohan ang dala kahit saan!!!!!!

ugok ung 70% galing un sa source mo kung di ka abnoy. kala ko ba di ka naniniwala sa dimonyo? so kung ginagamit mo yan ibig sabihin athiest + christian = antichrist

ahhh.. kaya.. antichrist ka pala.


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tsaka nakalagay dyan WORLD OF FAITH, DOMINANT RELIGION. so sinasabi mo na relgiion ung atheism? so sino diyos mo? lol.

napag hahalataan ka na di ka nag babasa ng sariling mo source ikaw b0bong mangmang na antichrist ka. wahaha. barbero pa more. sarap mo pagtawanan ahaha.

nasiraan na ng ulo to sa sobrang sa pagka athiest kahit murder okay lang sakanya. lol. sa mga nag babasa, yan ung tunay na antichrist lol. next time makita nyo to sa forums barahin nyo lagi ahaha.

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

Here is the exact words from bible. 'if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished'

and then this is your answer? you are contradicting what is in the bible. can you read this word? 'HE SHALL NOT BE PUNISHED'

i repeat, as per bible, if you beat your servant and didn't die, you will not get punished.
This is OBSCENE, its IMMORAL no matter how you juggle your words.
your bible is self-contradicting. you thought it only teaches good thing? well, welcome to the other side of the bible.

i'm gonna ask you again, would like to be my servant under that rule?

bugok ka kasi mag analyze kung di ka makitid ung utak mo mag babasa ka lang ng english kaya tatagalugin na kitang bata paslit ka.

20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.

21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

kung marunong ka mag basa ang pinaparating dito is going overboard sa punishment na gagawin ng master sa slave.

ang bible di binabasa ng verse kung di ka t@nga, ang bible storya yan na may aral.

Exodus 21 King James Version (KJV)
21 Now these are the judgments which thou shalt set before them.

2 If thou buy an Hebrew servant, six years he shall serve: and in the seventh he shall go out free for nothing.

3 If he came in by himself, he shall go out by himself: if he were married, then his wife shall go out with him.

4 If his master have given him a wife, and she have born him sons or daughters; the wife and her children shall be her master's, and he shall go out by himself.

5 And if the servant shall plainly say, I love my master, my wife, and my children; I will not go out free:

6 Then his master shall bring him unto the judges; he shall also bring him to the door, or unto the door post; and his master shall bore his ear through with an aul; and he shall serve him for ever.

7 And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.

8 If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.

9 And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.

10 If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

11 And if he do not these three unto her, then shall she go out free without money.

12 He that smiteth a man, so that he die, shall be surely put to death.

13 And if a man lie not in wait, but God deliver him into his hand; then I will appoint thee a place whither he shall flee.

14 But if a man come presumptuously upon his neighbour, to slay him with guile; thou shalt take him from mine altar, that he may die.

15 And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death.

16 And he that s†éáleth a man, and selleth him, or if he be found in his hand, he shall surely be put to death.

17 And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death.

18 And if men strive together, and one smite another with a stone, or with his fist, and he die not, but keepeth his bed:

19 If he rise again, and walk abroad upon his staff, then shall he that smote him be quit: only he shall pay for the loss of his time, and shall cause him to be thoroughly healed.

20 And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.

21 Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: for he is his money.

22 If men strive, and hurt a woman with child, so that her fruit depart from her, and yet no mischief follow: he shall be surely punished, according as the woman's husband will lay upon him; and he shall pay as the judges determine.

23 And if any mischief follow, then thou shalt give life for life,

24 Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot,

25 Burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.

26 And if a man smite the eye of his servant, or the eye of his maid, that it perish; he shall let him go free for his eye's sake.

27 And if he smite out his manservant's tooth, or his maidservant's tooth; he shall let him go free for his tooth's sake.


so ano ba problema dun? kung di ka bopols ang sabi dun di mapa-punished ung master kung di namatay ung slave.
so? ano problema dun?

first of, kung di ka bob0 at kalahati pa ikot ikot tayo.
tatanong ko lang bakit mo pinipilit na dapat parusahan ung master?
sagutin mo ung taong ko ah.

 

[fabbriche]

ugok ung 70% galing un sa source mo kung di ka abnoy. kala ko ba di ka naniniwala sa dimonyo? so kung ginagamit mo yan ibig sabihin athiest + christian = antichrist

ahhh.. kaya.. antichrist ka pala.


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tsaka nakalagay dyan WORLD OF FAITH, DOMINANT RELIGION. so sinasabi mo na relgiion ung atheism? so sino diyos mo? lol.
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napag hahalataan ka na di ka nag babasa ng sariling mo source ikaw b0bong mangmang na antichrist ka. wahaha. barbero pa more. sarap mo pagtawanan ahaha.

nasiraan na ng ulo to sa sobrang sa pagka athiest kahit murder okay lang sakanya. lol. sa mga nag babasa, yan ung tunay na antichrist lol. next time makita nyo to sa forums barahin nyo lagi ahaha.

T@nga! Walang atheism na nakalagay jan. Ang ipinapakita ng chart na yan ay kung gano ka-religious ang isang bansa. Kita mo ung 'x' at 'y' axis, ung horizontal line sa bottom at vertical line sa leftmost part ng graph? Ung vertical line un ang percentage ng religiosity. Ung horizontal line un ung per capita income. Nakita mo na sa graph? Anong percentage ng religiosity ng Russia? O di ba wala pang 40%. Hirap umintindi ng mga mangmang na relihiyoso. Ung pang grade 1 na graph hindi pa maintindihan.

 

[ken_rebirth]

bugok ka

t@nga

bob0

so ano ba problema dun? kung di ka bopols ang sabi dun di mapa-punished ung master kung di namatay ung slave.
so? ano problema dun?

This is how moronic a christian should be? sayang po ang pagbabasa nyo nang bible.

and yes there is a BIG PROBLEM about it, why the hell bible (a book of God) encourage, support, teaches on how to have, how to handle your slave? isn't slavery is immoral? how come the bible did not condemn it? hence it supported it?

you've lost your mind on what SLAVERY is.

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

This is how moronic a christian should be? sayang po ang pagbabasa nyo nang bible.

and yes there is a BIG PROBLEM about it, why the hell bible (a book of God) encourage, support, teaches on how to have, how to handle your slave? isn't slavery is immoral? how come the bible did not condemn it? hence it supported it?

you've lost your mind on what SLAVERY is.

immoral para sayo pero sakin hinde, dahil ang sabi nga lahat tayo slaves/servant ng diyos sabi sa bible. ikaw lang immoral dito.

Ephesians 6:5-9 New International Version (NIV)
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.


Ephesians 6:5-9 King James Version (KJV)
5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;
7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:
8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.
9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.


first of all di ako christian,agnostic ako,2nd wala kang alam matagal na ako nakikipag debate sa ganitong topic. kung wala kang alam.

mas sayang kang kausap ugok.

wala kang magagawa kung gusto kitang murahin eh troll ka naman, lol.

kase para sakin di ako nag mince ng word. for example ung bob0 ginagamit ko yun sa nauukol na tao.
so in short sinasabi ko na bob0 ka at naniniwala ako dun. ano? gusto mo tawagin kitang matalino? lol. yun lang yun. kase ung mga comment mo wala naman nada-dagdag sa topic.parang nananadya lang mang-asar. gumagatong ka lang kung baga saling pusa na comment. lol.

isipin mo ung logic mo ung slave AKA employee mo may sala di mo tutuwirin? ganyan ka siguro pinalaki ng magulang mo no? walang palo palo kaya siguro spoiled brat ka.

narinig lang ung word na slavery masama na agad? eh ung cock na word pag narinig mo baka masama narin isipin mo.lol ang babaw mong tao. ikaw siguro ung may marinig lang na salitang tae lumalayo ka na dun sa tao na yun. lol pa posh posh ka pa english english ka pa wala naman substance pinag sasabi mo.

ang gusto nya ung mag nanakaw wag saktan daw. lol. kase daw slave kase kung di ka ugok sa king james version ang ginagamit servant.

kaya wag mo daan ung word mo na slave dito dahil ang original na used word sa bible is

Doulos original meaning using the New Testament Greek Lexicon ... bond-servant 11, bond-servants 12, bondslave 3, bondslaves

kasama ka siguro dun sa mga abnormal na gusto censor lahat pati freedom of speech ahaha. SJW dun ka sa mga tumblr mag hasik ng kabob0han mo.

english english ka pa di ka magmumukang matatalino sa ginagawa mo pseudo intellectual lol.

pero sige entertain kita gusto ko yung mga katulad mo kausap para maintindihan ko kung pano umaandar yang utak mo. lol.

at for your information well aware ako sa history ng slavery. kahit nga ung mga slave dati sa egpyt eh may pension may tamang burial at may sweldo sila yung mga gumawa ng pyramids. nasobrahan ka siguro sa white culture. kakapanood mo ng hollywood yan. minsan minsan tumigin ka rin sa ibang culture kagaya sa japan at egypt narrow minded ka.

mag research ka dami ka pa kakainin.

 

[homer_simpson]

immoral para sayo pero sakin hinde, dahil ang sabi nga lahat tayo slaves/servant ng diyos sabi sa bible. ikaw lang immoral dito.

Ephesians 6:5-9 New International Version (NIV)
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.


Ephesians 6:5-9 King James Version (KJV)
5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;
7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:
8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.
9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.


first of all di ako christian,agnostic ako,2nd wala kang alam matagal na ako nakikipag debate sa ganitong topic. kung wala kang alam.

mas sayang kang kausap ugok.

wala kang magagawa kung gusto kitang murahin eh troll ka naman, lol.

kase para sakin di ako nag mince ng word. for example ung bob0 ginagamit ko yun sa nauukol na tao.
so in short sinasabi ko na bob0 ka at naniniwala ako dun. ano? gusto mo tawagin kitang matalino? lol. yun lang yun. kase ung mga comment mo wala naman nada-dagdag sa topic.parang nananadya lang mang-asar. gumagatong ka lang kung baga saling pusa na comment. lol.

isipin mo ung logic mo ung slave AKA employee mo may sala di mo tutuwirin? ganyan ka siguro pinalaki ng magulang mo no? walang palo palo kaya siguro spoiled brat ka.

narinig lang ung word na slavery masama na agad? eh ung cock na word pag narinig mo baka masama narin isipin mo.lol ang babaw mong tao. ikaw siguro ung may marinig lang na salitang tae lumalayo ka na dun sa tao na yun. lol pa posh posh ka pa english english ka pa wala naman substance pinag sasabi mo.

ang gusto nya ung mag nanakaw wag saktan daw. lol. kase daw slave kase kung di ka ugok sa king james version ang ginagamit servant.

kaya wag mo daan ung word mo na slave dito dahil ang original na used word sa bible is

Doulos original meaning using the New Testament Greek Lexicon ... bond-servant 11, bond-servants 12, bondslave 3, bondslaves

kasama ka siguro dun sa mga abnormal na gusto censor lahat pati freedom of speech ahaha. SJW dun ka sa mga tumblr mag hasik ng kabob0han mo.

english english ka pa di ka magmumukang matatalino sa ginagawa mo pseudo intellectual lol.

pero sige entertain kita gusto ko yung mga katulad mo kausap para maintindihan ko kung pano umaandar yang utak mo. lol.

at for your information well aware ako sa history ng slavery. kahit nga ung mga slave dati sa egpyt eh may pension may tamang burial at may sweldo sila yung mga gumawa ng pyramids. nasobrahan ka siguro sa white culture. kakapanood mo ng hollywood yan. minsan minsan tumigin ka rin sa ibang culture kagaya sa japan at egypt narrow minded ka.

mag research ka dami ka pa kakainin.

Kaya pag may nabalitaan ka na mina-maltrato ng amo, like yung mga nangyari sa mga kaawa-awang kababayan sa middle-east, like yung ni-rape at binugbog pasalamatan mo pa din ang diyos mo at bahagi lang iyun ng buhay slave. Oks ba?

Btw, itanong mo kaya sa mga ka-pamilya at kaibigan mo na kung ok lang din ba na sila din ay tawaging slaves/alipin? Pls report back.

 

[jayendecastro]

If thou buy an Hebrew servant....
...
And if a man smite his servant, or his maid, with a rod, and he die under his hand; he shall be surely punished.
Notwithstanding, if he continue a day or two, he shall not be punished: [COLOR=rgb(97, 189, 109)for he is his money.[/COLOR]

Buy? Money? Yan value mo sa tao?

And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.
And if he have betrothed her unto his son, he shall deal with her after the manner of daughters.
If he take him another wife; her food, her raiment, and her duty of marriage, shall he not diminish.

Alam mo meaning ng betrothed db?? Im not saying its manyak .im saying na ung servant mo engaged sau pd mo ipamana sa anak mo, tas pag nag asawa ka pa eh jowa mo pa din si servant...

daming tao gusto ibahin ang meaning ng isang word halatang may agenda lang ung mga un eh.

DOULOS means SLAVE... Tama iniba ng mga early translators ang meaning .ginawang servants..but still a SLAVE... like yang analogy mo sa maid or katulong or kasambahay.. iniba ung term para maging approriate or acceptable.. gets mo na nmn pala eh.

And to be clear:

SERVANT = TAGAPAGLINGKOD
SLAVE = ALILA

May ibat ibang term for particular servants non BN like therapōn (squire), akolouthos (follower), pais (houseboy) ..parang iba ang tawag mo sa driver, sa helper, sa houseboy, sa gardener...pero they are all servants nonetheless.

Ung DOULOS ang originally meant na SLAVE, yan ang first meaning nean., like mga ginagawa sa prisoners of war, na pwede "BUY And SELL" aka slave trading.

Service is doing work for others. AGREE. Walang kwestyon jan.

Pero eto kasi pininpilit mo..na ang SLAVES ay MERE SERVANTS LANG. which is wrong.

May pagkakatulad..OO..pero they are not the same thing.

ALL SLAVES ARE SERVANTS, BUT NOT ALL SERVANTS ARE SLAVE.

So yang pag e equivocate mo ng SERVANTS AT SLAVERY is inexplain mo na din. NA BINAGO ANG WORDINGS, PINAGANDA PAKINGGAN pero STILL THE SAME. kaw na mismo nagcocontradict sa sinasabi mo.

IBA NAG SERVANTS SA SLAVE. kaya nga may nagrereklamong mga workers/servants kasi tinatrato daw silang mga ALILA.

Dont be a hypocrite na sasabihin mo na lahat tayo SLAVES...lahat tayo servants one way or another..but never SLAVES...magkaiba yon.

Kasi kahit ikaw..di mo kayang ipagmalaki na isa kang SLAVE sa Call Center.. and term mo pa din eh SERVANT/WORKER/EMPLOYEE kasi alam mo sa sarili mo na magkaiba yon at jinustify mo lang yan para masabi mong may tama ang diyos mo at bible pagdating sa pagown ng people as slaves.

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

Kaya pag may nabalitaan ka na mina-maltrato ng amo, like yung mga nangyari sa mga kaawa-awang kababayan sa middle-east, like yung ni-rape at binugbog pasalamatan mo pa din ang diyos mo at bahagi lang iyun ng buhay slave. Oks ba?

Btw, itanong mo kaya sa mga ka-pamilya at kaibigan mo na kung ok lang din ba na sila din ay tawaging slaves/alipin? Pls report back.

well, ung nag bu-bugbog pa at nag mamaltrato dun sa mga kabayan natin tingin mo sinusunod nila ung bible? di ko alam kung nag i-ignorantehan ka na di mo alam maraming religion sa mundo.

tingin mo ba nag basa ng bible ung mga taga middle east? ano kaya religion na dominant dun? isp-isip. lol. natatawa ako.

tsaka tungkol dun sa slave ang pamilya ko di interesado sa ganung topic edi sana wala ako dito sa mga ganitong forums. lol.

pero para sakin kung meron higher being AKA creator syempre mag papakumbaba ako at oo tatawagin ko na SERVANT/slave ako nitong higher being na to dahil siya ung gumawa sa mundo to eh. may limits ang pride ko. lol.

at being pratical at tanggalin ang formalities ang mundo tumatakbo sa slave master relationship.

example ito ah.

you are servants of your child because you serve theme with all your heart

you serve your parents when they get old because you bound to do this because they serve you when you were young.

you need to serve other people in your work in exchange for money.


tsaka sobrang obsessed ka sa word na slave eh. merong original ung Duolus which means bondservant
ung slave na word tinatanggap mo pero ung servant hindi? puro kayo bias ah wahaha.

tanong ko rin sayo ang servant at slave ba magkapareho meaning sa bible? sagutin mo.

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

Buy? Money? Yan value mo sa tao?


Alam mo meaning ng betrothed db?? Im not saying its manyak .im saying na ung servant mo engaged sau pd mo ipamana sa anak mo, tas pag nag asawa ka pa eh jowa mo pa din si servant...


DOULOS means SLAVE... Tama iniba ng mga early translators ang meaning .ginawang servants..but still a SLAVE... like yang analogy mo sa maid or katulong or kasambahay.. iniba ung term para maging approriate or acceptable.. gets mo na nmn pala eh.

And to be clear:

SERVANT = TAGAPAGLINGKOD
SLAVE = ALILA

May ibat ibang term for particular servants non BN like therapōn (squire), akolouthos (follower), pais (houseboy) ..parang iba ang tawag mo sa driver, sa helper, sa houseboy, sa gardener...pero they are all servants nonetheless.

Ung DOULOS ang originally meant na SLAVE, yan ang first meaning nean., like mga ginagawa sa prisoners of war, na pwede "BUY And SELL" aka slave trading.

Service is doing work for others. AGREE. Walang kwestyon jan.

Pero eto kasi pininpilit mo..na ang SLAVES ay MERE SERVANTS LANG. which is wrong.

May pagkakatulad..OO..pero they are not the same thing.

ALL SLAVES ARE SERVANTS, BUT NOT ALL SERVANTS ARE SLAVE.

So yang pag e equivocate mo ng SERVANTS AT SLAVERY is inexplain mo na din. NA BINAGO ANG WORDINGS, PINAGANDA PAKINGGAN pero STILL THE SAME. kaw na mismo nagcocontradict sa sinasabi mo.

IBA NAG SERVANTS SA SLAVE. kaya nga may nagrereklamong mga workers/servants kasi tinatrato daw silang mga ALILA.

Dont be a hypocrite na sasabihin mo na lahat tayo SLAVES...lahat tayo servants one way or another..but never SLAVES...magkaiba yon.

Kasi kahit ikaw..di mo kayang ipagmalaki na isa kang SLAVE sa Call Center.. and term mo pa din eh SERVANT/WORKER/EMPLOYEE kasi alam mo sa sarili mo na magkaiba yon at jinustify mo lang yan para masabi mong may tama ang diyos mo at bible pagdating sa pagown ng people as slaves.

lol.

to be clear?
servant = tagapaglingkod?
pero ung slave di equal sa servant?
paghahalatan ka ah. bias ka ah. gusto mo dun sa mabulaklak wahaha.
eh nakalagay nga sa KJV servant ang ginagamit instead of slave. lol
sige, tanong ko para sayo magkaiba ba ang SLAVE at SERVANT?



Ephesians 6:5-9 New International Version (NIV)
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.


Ephesians 6:5-9 King James Version (KJV)
5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;
7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:
8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.
9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.



tsaka logically speaking bat ka mag h-hire ng tao para sayo? tingin mo ba ung mga companya dyan nag h-hire dahil mahal ka nila wahahaha how cute naman ng ideals mo. lol.

 

[jayendecastro]

at for your information well aware ako sa history ng slavery. kahit nga ung mga slave dati sa egpyt eh may pension may tamang burial at may sweldo sila yung mga gumawa ng pyramids. nasobrahan ka siguro sa white culture. kakapanood mo ng hollywood yan. minsan minsan tumigin ka rin sa ibang culture kagaya sa japan at egypt narrow minded ka.

mag research ka dami ka pa kakainin.

Maayos nmn pala kamo treatment ng SLAVES sa egypt...bat kailangan nila umalis don?? Kala ko ba obey ur earthly masters??

Bat kailangan pa sila alisin sa pagkaSLAVES kung sabi mo nga di nmn masama yon??

Kasi pag sila ang SLAVES masama..pero pag sila ang MASTERS acceptable...hahahaha

 

[jayendecastro]

well, ung nag bu-bugbog pa at nag mamaltrato dun sa mga kabayan natin tingin mo sinusunod nila ung bible? di ko alam kung nag i-ignorantehan ka na di mo alam maraming religion sa mundo.

tingin mo ba nag basa ng bible ung mga taga middle east? ano kaya religion na dominant dun? isp=isip. lol. nanatawa ako.

tsaka tungkol dun sa slave ang pamilya ko di interesado sa ganung topic edi sana wala ako dito sa mga ganitong forums. lol.

pero para sakin kung meron higher being AKA creator syempre mag papakumbaba ako at oo tatawagin ko na SERVANT/slave ako nitong higher being na to dahil siya ung gumawa sa mundo to eh. may limits ang pride ko. lol.

Were not talking bout slaves ng higher power dito..slaves ng tao sa tao... Wag mo insert ano anong logic mo na wala sa usapan

 

[jayendecastro]

lol.

to be clear?
servant = tagapaglingkod?
pero ung slave di equal sa servant?
paghahalatan ka ah. bias ka ah. gusto mo dun sa mabulaklak wahaha.
eh nakalagay nga sa KJV servant ang ginagamit instead of slave. lol
sige, tanong ko para sayo magkaiba ba ang SLAVE at SERVANT?



Ephesians 6:5-9 New International Version (NIV)
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.


Ephesians 6:5-9 King James Version (KJV)
5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;
7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:
8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.
9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.



tsaka logically speaking bat ka mag h-hire ng tao para sayo? tingin mo ba ung mga companya dyan nag h-hire dahil mahal ka nila wahahaha how cute naman ng ideals mo. lol.

Ulitin ko:
Service is doing work for others. AGREE. Walang kwestyon jan.

Pero eto kasi pininpilit mo..na ang SLAVES ay MERE SERVANTS LANG. which is wrong.

May pagkakatulad..OO..pero they are not the same thing.

ALL SLAVES ARE SERVANTS, BUT NOT ALL SERVANTS ARE SLAVE.

So yang pag e equivocate mo ng SERVANTS AT SLAVERY is inexplain mo na din. NA BINAGO ANG WORDINGS, PINAGANDA PAKINGGAN pero STILL THE SAME. kaw na mismo nagcocontradict sa sinasabi mo.

IBA NAG SERVANTS SA SLAVE. kaya nga may nagrereklamong mga workers/servants kasi tinatrato daw silang mga ALILA.

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

Ulitin ko:
Service is doing work for others. AGREE. Walang kwestyon jan.

Pero eto kasi pininpilit mo..na ang SLAVES ay MERE SERVANTS LANG. which is wrong.

May pagkakatulad..OO..pero they are not the same thing.

ALL SLAVES ARE SERVANTS, BUT NOT ALL SERVANTS ARE SLAVE.

So yang pag e equivocate mo ng SERVANTS AT SLAVERY is inexplain mo na din. NA BINAGO ANG WORDINGS, PINAGANDA PAKINGGAN pero STILL THE SAME. kaw na mismo nagcocontradict sa sinasabi mo.

IBA NAG SERVANTS SA SLAVE. kaya nga may nagrereklamong mga workers/servants kasi tinatrato daw silang mga ALILA.

LOL! patawa ka talaga contradicting ka sa sinasabi mo! tinatanong ko sayo sa bible ang SLAVE at SERVANT iisa lang ba?

Ephesians 6:5-9 New International Version (NIV)
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
9 And masters, treat your slaves in the same way. Do not threaten them, since you know that he who is both their Master and yours is in heaven, and there is no favoritism with him.


Ephesians 6:5-9 King James Version (KJV)
5 Servants, be obedient to them that are your masters according to the flesh, with fear and trembling, in singleness of your heart, as unto Christ;
6 Not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but as the servants of Christ, doing the will of God from the heart;
7 With good will doing service, as to the Lord, and not to men:
8 Knowing that whatsoever good thing any man doeth, the same shall he receive of the Lord, whether he be bond or free.
9 And, ye masters, do the same things unto them, forbearing threatening: knowing that your Master also is in heaven; neither is there respect of persons with him.

 

[michellian]

Hi JF!

I see no misconceptions to my understanding of atheism. What you are trying is you are creating or echoing an idea on atheism in order to put all the burden of proof to the theist or to establish atheism as immutable to all forms of criticisms. Not all atheists agree to your own idea of atheism.

Atheism is a belief. Maybe even a prevailing belief in an era, but this does not make it as the ultimate truth to be the default standard for all truths in all space-time, dimensions and realities. Atheism is not absolute or ultimate, it is also subject to changes just as other world views. It takes open-minded ness to admit that atheism is a belief becoming prominent in this era. However, what for example, in the year 3000 A.D.?Is atheism still the truth? What if in the year 2999 AD God made himself observable? Or what if the soul exists that when you die, there is a God or gods waiting you in alternative realities? A God can have the power to not let us himself provable or knowable but this does not make God can not or does.not exist just due to our ability to observe.

Atheism is not simply lacking in belief. It is a belief out of the claim that there is no God. It is an intellectual position. This position is a claim. In intellectual matters, there is no neutral position. When you claim something intellectually, you construct arguments which you believe are the truths.

A person can not stay neutral in the atheism-theism issue. Once he enters the issue, he can not avoid a position. Atheism is different from agnosticism as far as God's existence is concerned. The agnostic suspends all intellectual judgment until informations or sufficient knowledge is available.

If you really want someone or something that lacks beliefs or claims nothing, refer to a cat or rock. Can we say then that the cat or rock is an atheist because it lacks beliefs or claims nothing about God's existence? It is ludicrous to say then that the cat is an atheist because it can not intellectualize.

Lack of believe is actually a non-issue. Atheism is an issue just as theism. Atheism reasons out why the world or reality is such and such so that and so on by constructing arguments where these arguments the atheist believes as the truths. If the atheist does not believe in his arguments, then he is contradicting himself. If atheism is merely lack of believe, then the self confessed atheist stops arguing that theism is totally false and say nothing of anything about reality. However, is it the truth or fact that atheists do not take positions or actions in world affairs as they are influenced by atheism? Reality check!

As I have said, you need to exist to all of spacetime, dimensions and realties in order to establish the ultimacy and absoluteness of atheism. All worldviews hinge on beliefs affected by our limited lifetime, experience, observation and power of reasoning. Atheism is not exempted. Atheism constantly offers alternative arguments to theism hence, it establishes its own belief and it can not stay neutral or unaffected and must also join the theist in carrying the burden of proof to support its claim.

Note: this is my final statement on the meaning of atheism. You can say otherwise about atheism but there is no single authority on the meaning of atheism. I made my statement.

I agree to you sir...

 

[Lets-All-Love-Lain]

Were not talking bout slaves ng higher power dito..slaves ng tao sa tao... Wag mo insert ano anong logic mo na wala sa usapan

oo nga alam mo ba ung human pecking order? hierarchy? akala mo ba lahat tayo equal? how naive.

tingin mo ba pareho kayo ng estado ng isa presidente? or ung mga mas matankad sayo? at mas magaling sayo sa isang bagay? ikaw ba ung taong nag susulong ng equality? lol.

ang equality is kalokohan ang mga tao di pantay pantay iba iba tayo. edi sana ung biology nating lahat parepareho lang sukat pare pareho lang skills at walang lamang ang iba sa isa. lol. wishful thinking lang ang equality baka misunderstand mo ako iba ang inequality sa racism ah.

 

[michellian]

Your definition about Atheism can be translated that it rejects God. Analyze your statement sir. The conclusion of it is they denied the existence of God which means they reject God, and rejecting God is Satanic and evil. Just like Satan, he knows God but he opposed God. Just like the atheist.