Thoughts About Duterte's ICC Arrest

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Thoughts About Duterte's ICC Arrest
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1. Was Duterte's arrest îllégâl?
--> No. It was supposed to be yes, but Duterte himself withdrew the Philippines from the Rome Statute in March 2019. This means that the Rome Statute no longer applies to the Philippines since then.

2. Why does the ICC still meddle with crimes in the Philippines despite its withdrawal from the Rome Statute?
--> The ICC retains jurisdiction over crimes committed before the withdrawal. The ICC has the legal right to prosecute Duterte for crimes that happen before March 2019.

3. Why does Duterte invoke Article 59 of the Rome Statute to claim that his arrest was îllégâl?
--> Because this is his last clear chance to avoid accountability for the crimes committed during his WOD.

So, why attempt to invoke this right?
MY OPINION: Duterte, once again, is trying to play his card by toying with the laws that govern countries, including the Philippines and its citizens.

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[xXmartoXx]

Parang na-predict na ni Digonggong ang paglalagyan nya.

Napaka hayahay ng kalagayan nya, nasa museo na sya at naka aircon pa, natupad din yung hiling nya na mapapatayuan sya ng REBULTO nya, dahil sinasamba na sya ngayon ng mga myebro ni Mang Kanor.

 

[plhbg1]

pag îllégâl arrest ang pag usapan nagiging non-member state ang Pinas, pero pag jurisdiction pag usapan nagiging member ulet haha mina-manipulate ang data na maging in favor sa personal interests

 

[KuririChan]

 

[-M I A Z H E R-]

Hahahaha mas makikinig pa ako kay Atty. Roque kesa dyan e, hindi naman sya ICC lawyer walang pang utal2 sa pag explain ni Atty. Roque.

 

[plhbg1]

Hahahaha mas makikinig pa ako kay Atty. Roque kesa dyan e, hindi naman sya ICC lawyer walang pang utal2 sa pag explain ni Atty. Roque.

saka wait din natin ang decision ng supreme court kasi whatever opinion dito sa labas ay walang power, yung opinion pa rin mismo ng court ang executory

 

[Soul Calibre]

pag îllégâl arrest ang pag usapan nagiging non-member state ang Pinas, pero pag jurisdiction pag usapan nagiging member ulet haha mina-manipulate ang data na maging in favor sa personal interests

The arrest happened this year, and he is arrested for alleged crimes when we are still a member. Gets?

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Context?

Hahahaha mas makikinig pa ako kay Atty. Roque kesa dyan e, hindi naman sya ICC lawyer walang pang utal2 sa pag explain ni Atty. Roque.

Then?

Is this even relevant? LMAO

 

[-M I A Z H E R-]

Then?

Is this even relevant? LMAO

Malamang hahahaha Kidnapping na ginawa nila

 

[plhbg1]

The arrest happened this year, and he is arrested for alleged crimes when we are still a member. Gets?

wahaha so yung gagawin lang pala ng icc ay always conduct arrest pag hindi na member ang state at never sila to investigate while member pa yung state para hindi sumabit sa sariling law nila which is the Rome Statute? pati icc gagawin mo pang manipulator imbes na kayo lang diyan nagma-manipulate ng data

 

[Soul Calibre]

Malamang hahahaha Kidnapping na ginawa nila

If that’s what you think, read the articles again.

wahaha so yung gagawin lang pala ng icc ay always conduct arrest pag hindi na member ang state

Sino ba ang nag-withdraw ng PH from the Rome Statute?

at never sila to investigate while member pa yung state para hindi sumabit sa sariling law nila which is the Rome Statute?

Do you have basis on this? Asan proof mo na they “always” do it?

pati icc gagawin mo pang manipulator imbes na kayo lang diyan nagma-manipulate ng data

Speaking of manipulating, you just did. You tried to manipulate what I stated on this thread kahit malinaw pa sa malinaw ang nakalagay

 

[plhbg1]

If that’s what you think, read the articles again.


Sino ba ang nag-withdraw ng PH from the Rome Statute?

Do you have basis on this? Asan proof mo na they “always” do it?

Speaking of manipulating, you just did. You tried to manipulate what I stated on this thread kahit malinaw pa sa malinaw ang nakalagay

kaya nga pinapa-labas mo na nag hintay yung icc na kumalas ang Pinas just to arrest someone for a crime committed more than ten years ago, questionable na nga yung super delayed investigation nila eh binigyan mo pa talaga ng reason para maghintay sila ng ganun katagal kasi may benefit nga pala talaga sa kanila pag naging non-member na yung state

 

[HowSoonIsNow]

given na kunyare eh may jurisdiction pa ang icc sa kaso ni duterte dahil nangyare ito before pa tayo umalis sa pagiging member ng icc.. question is, wala na ba tayong working justice system sa bansa para litisin ang kaso nya dito? parang kasi sa pagkaka alam ko, maari lang makialam ang icc sa isang sovereign country kung wala na itong functioning justice system. pero sa case ng pilipinas. gumagana naman ang justice system sa bansa. does it mean inaamin ng current govt. na wala nang gumaganang justice system sa pilipinas kaya pumapayag na itong pakialaman ang soberanya ng bansa at isuko na tayo sa isang foreign entity?

 

[Soul Calibre]

kaya nga pinapa-labas mo na nag hintay yung icc na kumalas ang Pinas just to arrest someone for a crime committed more than ten years ago, questionable na nga yung super delayed investigation nila eh binigyan mo pa talaga ng reason para maghintay sila ng ganun katagal kasi may benefit nga pala talaga sa kanila pag naging non-member na yung state

Kailan ba naging instant ang investigation? Also, mali ba kung inaresto ang isang tao in the right time?

Asan na ang proof ng claim mo kanina? Wala kang proof? Ano yun, you tried to manipulate legality by using just your opinion?

 

[plhbg1]

Kailan ba naging instant ang investigation? Also, mali ba kung inaresto ang isang tao in the right time?

haha more than ten years is already questionable, nauna pa nga mag-issue ng warrant ang icc kina Putin at Netanyahu, imagine ang super bilis ng icc na mag issue ng warrant sa kanila

 

[Soul Calibre]

given na kunyare eh may jurisdiction pa ang icc sa kaso ni duterte dahil nangyare ito before pa tayo umalis sa pagiging member ng icc.. question is, wala na ba tayong working justice system sa bansa para litisin ang kaso nya dito? parang kasi sa pagkaka alam ko, maari lang makialam ang icc sa isang sovereign country kung wala na itong functioning justice system. pero sa case ng pilipinas. gumagana naman ang justice system sa bansa. does it mean inaamin ng current govt. na wala nang gumaganang justice system sa pilipinas kaya pumapayag na itong pakialaman ang soberanya ng bansa at isuko na tayo sa isang foreign entity?

We have a working justice system, but the system itself lacks kaya hindi gumagalaw. And when the local justice system cannot or is not willing to impose justice, the ICC can step in

 

[plhbg1]

Asan na ang proof ng claim mo kanina? Wala kang proof? Ano yun, you tried to manipulate legality by using just your opinion?

which claim?

And when the local justice system cannot or is not willing to impose justice, the ICC can step in

not willing to impose justice based on?

 

[HowSoonIsNow]

We have a working justice system, but the system itself lacks kaya hindi gumagalaw. And when the local justice system cannot or is not willing to impose justice, the ICC can step in

medyo magulo ang statement mo boss. working but hindi gumagalaw?? local justice system cannot or is not willing to iimpose justice?? parang wala ata akong nabalitaang may isinampang kaso kay duterte sa local court eh. meron ba? baka mali lang ako. pero kung tama ngang walang nag sampa ng kaso kay duterte dito, isnt it ang may problema eh yung gustong mag pakulong kay duterte at hindi ang justice system ng bansa??

 

[Soul Calibre]

haha more than ten years is already questionable, nauna pa nga mag-issue ng warrant ang icc kina Putin at Netanyahu, imagine ang super bilis ng icc na mag issue ng warrant sa kanila

The ICC already issued an arrest warrant to Putin, the reason kung bakit hindi pa sya nahuhuli ay dahil nagtatago sya, and sometimes nasa non-member country sya.

Asan nga proof mo?

 

[plhbg1]

The ICC already issued an arrest warrant to Putin, the reason kung bakit hindi pa sya nahuhuli ay dahil nagtatago sya, and sometimes nasa non-member country sya.

sabi ko nga imagine mo yung bilis ng icc para sabihin mong hindi pa questionable ang more than ten years delay

Asan nga proof mo?

proof na nag issue nga ng warrant ang icc kay Putin? haha nag agree ka na nga diba

 

[Soul Calibre]

which claim?

LOL. So, hindi mo pala naiintindihan ang mga sinabi mo? Back read mo ang sinabi mo.

not willing to impose justice based on?

The alleged crimes. Obvious naman sana kaso hindi mo pala alam.

sabi ko nga imagine mo yung bilis ng icc para sabihin mong hindi pa questionable ang more than ten years delay

Ilabas mo ang proof mo…

proof na nag issue nga ng warrant ang icc kay Putin? haha nag agree ka na nga diba

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Nauna pa akong naglabas ng proof. Asan na proof mo?