🕯️ Traditions Dr. Jordan Peterson (Clinical Psychologist & Scientist) on Pride Month

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Of course, dogma is important. I have much respect unto those who are firm on what they believe not those who are just swaying according to the wave of the society or what we call bandwagons. I was not saying you where lying, I was saying you where never was a conservative to begin with.

So how do you rightfully differentiate someone with realizations versus someone who simply swayed according to the wave of society? That is all an unsubstantiated accusation to invalidate people. Gatekeeper ka pa ngayon kung sino ang conservative at hindi?
Actually, problematic ang dogma kahit saan ka tumingin. It is all about being firm regardless of being right. This is the true sinful kind of pride.

Kaya nga I said, hindi lang conservative ang merong complain sa society, sa far left woke din meron, and even use legislation. Just because something is "marginalized" or "oppressed", that we should not challenge this ideology or anong mga pinaglalaban nila automatically become correct or facts.

I did not claim it makes them correct. To the least, being marginalize and oppressed gives justification for their claim to have more voice. On the other hand, conservatives do not have any proper justification other than the fear they spread, and the feeling of moral superiority.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

So how do you rightfully differentiate someone with realizations versus someone who simply swayed according to the wave of society? That is all an unsubstantiated accusation to invalidate people. Gatekeeper ka pa ngayon kung sino ang conservative at hindi?
Actually, problematic ang dogma kahit saan ka tumingin. It is all about being firm regardless of being right. This is the true sinful kind of pride.

Where do you get your moral values about which is sinful or not? And being dogmatic is not being prideful, it just means you have set of domga's/values you follow strictly. Of course it very clear and I can see a million miles who's claiming to be a conservative or not. It's obvious, it's easy like 1+1=2. Gatekeeping? Nah, kasi nga it's obvious you are simping with the left.

So how do you rightfully differentiate someone with realizations versus someone who simply swayed according to the wave of society? That is all an unsubstantiated accusation to invalidate people. Gatekeeper ka pa ngayon kung sino ang conservative at hindi?
Actually, problematic ang dogma kahit saan ka tumingin. It is all about being firm regardless of being right. This is the true sinful kind of pride.

I did not claim it makes them correct. To the least, being marginalize and oppressed gives justification for their claim to have more voice. On the other hand, conservatives do not have any proper justification other than the fear they spread, and the feeling of moral superiority.

Again, we don't promote something that doesn't show what is reality and facts, just for the sake of so called "marginalized people". We don't spread fear, again with the "feEliNg mOrAl sUpErIoRiTy" words as if the left don't have that also, including you, kasi may opinion ka din.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

And being dogmatic is not being prideful, it just means you have set of domga's/values you follow strictly.

..and follow it strictly regardless of reason, that is what makes it prideful. This is in contrast with how you frame the lgbtq pride as the sin just because it shares the same word. And on top of that, you following the values you chose for yourself is not the problem. It is when you use it to judge others. Even Jesus thought he can drop his dogmatic judgements for the sake of empathy. How is it that you can't get this concept for a party that claims to be backed by religion?

we don't promote something that doesn't show what is reality and facts, just for the sake of so called "marginalized people". We don't spread fear, again with the "feEliNg mOrAl sUpErIoRiTy" words as if the left don't have that also, including you, kasi may opinion ka din.

So do you feel like I am stepping through my bounds by voicing my opinion against yours? What would be the proper way for liberals to voice their opinions if I may ask? The way conservatives will allow.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

..and follow it strictly regardless of reason, that is what makes it prideful. This is in contrast with how you frame the lgbtq pride as the sin just because it shares the same word. And on top of that, you following the values you chose for yourself is not the problem. It is when you use it to judge others. Even Jesus thought he can drop his dogmatic judgements for the sake of empathy. How is it that you can't get this concept for a party that claims to be backed by religion?

It has reasons, and those reasons are both practical and base on reality not base on just mere feelings. May sinabi ba ko na sin? Lol, keep pretending that I mention my religion on this topic just sa sway the conversation away sa ano talaga ang point ko.

Give me an example where Christ drop his dogmatic judgement for the sake of empathy?

So do you feel like I am stepping through my bounds by voicing my opinion against yours? What would be the proper way for liberals to voice their opinions if I may ask? The way conservatives will allow.

I am not saying that, I just don't just words like feeling morally superior sa argument, kasi wala naman yan. I am stating facts about this gender ideology.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

It has reasons, and those reasons are both practical and base on reality not base on just mere feelings.

Actually, may reason din naman ang causes ng left. You just do not weigh it against yours properly. And it is a fact that people have to live disadvantageous lives merely because of what they are born with. Is that not reasononable and factual enough for you?

Try John 8:1-11

all facts you presented is that male is different from female. But you have not connected anything factual for a "female" to correspond with "woman" and "male" to "man", other that being convention. And what practical reasons pala are you referring to? Practical to who?

 

[Swazhu]

What's the point? There is a man and a woman, and a man that thinks he is a woman, a woman thinking she is a man. The world is alright. The very wrong things are in these Political Groups confusing all forcing their personal fantasies to take over all world norms, every space and value.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

...suppressed and oppressed po "sila". Alam ko ang pakiramdam ng suppressed and oppressed dahil itong nabubuhay ako sa sarili ko kinakatayuan ay kinakailangan ko pa na mag-ingat sa mga tao na makakakita sa akin upang masabi lang na makakakita sa akin na I am doing the right thing when it comes on how I behave as a woman po. Kapag meron lang ako super strength, matagal ko na sila sinakal at pinatay pero babae po ako siyempre, malawak ang akin understanding....... haha.

Para lang Espanyol at Filipino lang din dati. Dati , ang lahat na nasa posiyon ay puros Espanyol in church , sa government....... lahat ay angkin na nila ang benefits na meron sa kanila. Pagkatapos humingi ang rights ang mga filipino people, na sila din at maging parte sila sa kung ano ang kinakatayuan din ng mga Espanyol. Parang ganyan din but iyon nga lang , successful tayo dahil sa tulong ng Amerikano. Napalayas ang Spaniards sa Pilipinas. Nasa low social status kaya ang mga filipino dati.

In the present moment , ganyan din tayo. Ngayon. Ang mga nakakabenefit at consider superior morally right ay walang iba kungdi mga heterosexual which means a man and a woman those who submit to a God, a man ang kinoconsider dominant at influential role in a society. Diba? Sa hierarchical social status? Pati sa laws, sila ang nag mamaneubra as long as ang morality na hindi align sa kanila , hindi nila eaapproved. Ganun. Walang sogie bill , walang divorce, walang same seks marriage , walang abortion........ madaming wala. Hindi kasi align ito sa itinatawag na superior morally right kuno and tayo, influenced din tayo sa religious morality na ikinagisnan natin.

Yung Pagano ay okay-okay lang though diversified ang Pagan and so , meron specific beliefs na itinagurian least sexism. Iyan. Complete po sila sa ingredients pagdating diyan sa mga ganyan. Meron nga silang itinatawag na temporary marriage na palugit to 1 year or something? Means malaya pa sila tumingin-tingin sa iba kahit married na ang isa't-isa. Ang sinusukat is kung meant to each other sila kapag hindi sila meant to each other , hindi sila pwede pumunta sa permanent marriage. Pagkatapos meron pa silang divorce. Yung temporary marriage is equivalent to live in sa Christian society. Tutal , influence ang Christian galing Pagan and so understandable na iyon. Malamang. Mahirap putulin kung anong kinagawian.

Religion and bible, I do really believe na you know? They are in control of everything and lalo na ang karamihan na nasa posiyon especially religious leaders?.... ahem, lalake po ang nakapwesto.

So what if dogmatic pa? Literally lang naman. E di lahat tayo ay nakasakal na sa leeg? Joke.

For me , mythology lang po ang Jesus Christ from Christian society just the same lang ng other beliefs na mythology and take example sa Hinduism. Naniniwala sila sa reincarnation. Ayan tuloy. Kapag ipinanganak na mahirap , wala na pag-asa mabago iyon dahil mahirap na talaga sila. Hindi na sila pwede yumaman dahil naparusahan sila at na reincarnate. Kapag ipinanganak na mayaman , maswerte sila dahil destine nila na maging mayaman dahil kung ano man ang connection noon past lives nila. Iyan. No changes at all because of their beliefs.

Ganyan at ganyan ang atin. Kapag ipinanganak na lalake , iyan ang originally na lalake lang dapat at kapag ipinanganak na babae , babae lang dapat based on their beliefs na ginawa ng God. E hindi nila alam based on study sa human sexuality , marami tayo genders at existing na siya bago pa nabuo ang concept about man and a woman only. Way back pa siya. Matagal na. Ang mga naniniwala na man and woman only, sila ito naniniwala na no changes at all because they are born that way.

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[Kaplok Kaplok]

What's the point? There is a man and a woman, and a man that thinks he is a woman, a woman thinking she is a man. The world is alright. The very wrong things are in these Political Groups confusing all forcing their personal fantasies to take over all world norms, every space and value.

False. Liberals are merely taking away the religious influences ingrained in politics due to its centuries of dominance in society, kasi nga "separation of church and state." No one is taking over world norms. They are allowing all types of norms to coexist and be accepted as norms by wider society. May history kasi ang mga religious based power angkinin lahat ng kapangyarihan at umastang arbiter ng tama't mali sa lahat ng bagay.