🕯️ Traditions Dr. Jordan Peterson (Clinical Psychologist & Scientist) on Pride Month

[Gildarts Tale]

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Ah. Si Jordan Patterson? Kilala ko iyan sa social media. Nakabasi siya sa mismong Judeo-Christian morality as a whole po kahit atheist po siya. Iyan ata na meron siya pagka-traditional gender based. Sabi nga , disagree siya pagdating sa social progressive. Ewan ko kung sino nagsabi na parang meron raw psychological daw si Jordan Patterson.... sabi. Kasi kahit ang lesbian ay nagkaroon ng issue sa pag-aaway nilang dalawa on social media. Ang dami nga nag react.

Its like mataas ang teaching niya about masculinity po. Siya raw ang nagcocondition about masculinity concept.... mga ganun? Have you noticed why ang mga social progressive ay hindi niya pinapabor katulad ng feminists at ang group ng lesbians and gays po? Yun na yun.

Tinawag siya na the gospel of masculinity pagkatapos ang mga feminist men raw ay na convert niya at nag agree sa kanya. Ganun. The right wing si Jordan Patterson po. Diba? Ang mga right wing ideologies ay iyon ang mga malalakas ang ambience and characteristic of masculinity as a whole? Iyon ang based on obsevation ko and anything na meron kilalaman sa ambience of femininity is deem evil at inappropriate po.

Hindi ko alam kung sino nag embento ng right wing and left wing na iyan. Label lang iyan.

Wala lang. Diba ang mga right wing ideologies ay meron mga concept na dominant and submissive na gusto na control nila kung ano ang nasa ibaba diba? You see when it comes to rank ng social status po. Iyon ang gusto diba? Simple lang. Bahala sila. Kung gusto nila magpaslave sa mga ganyan. Nasa kanila iyan, or maybe hindi slave para sa kanila.

Ito ang gusto ng right wing ideologies :​

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Pagkatapos naalala ko pa na meron nagsabi na ang men are superior raw. Meron nagsabi dito. Ang rank ng social status ng mga homosexual , wala rin sa position. Iyan ang gusto nila. Blessed by God daw from the moment when he created Adam and Eve only. According sa bible , women must be submissive to men. Then homosexual is a sin.

I respect the right wing ideologies. Iyan ang gusto nila kasi.
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[Kaplok Kaplok]

I was a fan of Jordan Peterson. His advises are really good for surviving and excelling in the western world, that is is if these cultures are unchangeable. Pero siya nga mismo is testament to how bad these cultures can be for people's health. He suffered from anxiety which caused more illnesses down the line.

So, key takeaway here is we should not have a single culture setting our standards. We should allow society to tolerate subcultures and countercultures to exist to create a space for people to flourish with their strenghts.

 

[mutagenesisx]

For me si Jordan Peterson ay parang radiation treatment sa mga woke cancer cell(too OP). Jordan can punch those dumb feminist at closet mysogonist with one hand. Pero Jordan is a radical, this cause an amalgamation or an anti-woke army that can't be stopped and if left unchecked will bear also dumb conservative right wingers. its a cycle of hate...

 

[Gildarts Tale]

So, key takeaway here is we should not have a single culture setting our standards. We should allow society to tolerate subcultures and countercultures to exist to create a space for people to flourish with their strenghts.

As if we have a single culture without subcultures etc.. Before this ideology movement exist meron na at marami na. It's just na this movement doctrines are not good if fact it is very bad, and produces insanity.

For me si Jordan Peterson ay parang radiation treatment sa mga woke cancer cell(too OP). Jordan can punch those dumb feminist at closet mysogonist with one hand. Pero Jordan is a radical, this cause an amalgamation or an anti-woke army that can't be stopped and if left unchecked will bear also dumb conservative right wingers. its a cycle of hate...

He is viewed that way. But He is not entirely conservative, though his value is more leaning towards it, He also has soft spot for liberals. For me He needs to be radical in a sense that the WOKE mob is owning big industries, government, sciences, even in His clinical studies colleagues. He was strip of his license to practice psychology because of it. Many of His colleagues where afraid to speak afraid of losing their jobs.

He had an interview, pointing him as a culprit of some radical far-right wing activist, but He said He never once or did advocate for hate or any for of discrimination and violence against the woke mob. There many possibilities, some are using him for their own agenda and probably misrepresent what He stands for.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

As if we have a single culture without subcultures etc.. Before this ideology movement exist meron na at marami na. It's just na this movement doctrines are not good if fact it is very bad, and produces insanity.

Is that how insanity is "produced?"

For me He needs to be radical in a sense that the WOKE mob is owning big industries, government, sciences, even in His clinical studies colleagues.

This is a fallacious claim to invalidate the increasing disagreement to conservatism. Do you only respect democracy when it serves you? Just like when Hitler starts accusing Jews of dominating the Germans? I wonder what would happen if someone who actually believe this claim was in power..

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Is that how insanity is "produced?"

You can look at the west. Again, I doubt you'll see it since your into inclusivity and tolerance. That is why even on this ridiculousness of 1 month pride celebration is good to you. We don't even have a whole week celebrating veterans who risk their lives for our country.

This is a fallacious claim to invalidate the increasing disagreement to conservatism. Do you only respect democracy when it serves you? Just like when Hitler starts accusing Jews of dominating the Germans? I wonder what would happen if someone who actually believe this claim was in power..

It's the hard to swallow truth. Again look at what is happening in the west.

Thats not what I said, since I do respect our liberal friends. But the woke's are different, Dr. Jordan Peterson already addressed this on what is their ideology and where it came from, and what they really stand for. Not just him many are.

Back on the day, we have fruitful discussions with the liberals or now the center left wingers. But now we don't have because of this woke ideology that is also fueling the gender ideology movement.

 

[mutagenesisx]

As if we have a single culture without subcultures etc.. Before this ideology movement exist meron na at marami na. It's just na this movement doctrines are not good if fact it is very bad, and produces insanity.



He is viewed that way. But He is not entirely conservative, though his value is more leaning towards it, He also has soft spot for liberals. For me He needs to be radical in a sense that the WOKE mob is owning big industries, government, sciences, even in His clinical studies colleagues. He was strip of his license to practice psychology because of it. Many of His colleagues where afraid to speak afraid of losing their jobs.

He had an interview, pointing him as a culprit of some radical far-right wing activist, but He said He never once or did advocate for hate or any for of discrimination and violence against the woke mob. There many possibilities, some are using him for their own agenda and probably misrepresent what He stands for.

You can't fight fire with fire, Jordan stepped out of his boundaries even alienating his like minded free thinkers.

Naging mapurol na sya overtime, heard him in a podcast and host low key laughing at his blunt responses.

napa isip ako na magiging meme nadin sya overtime at kahit na mga simpleton theologians at intellects tatawagan syang "neo nazi" for no known reasons.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Back on the day, we have fruitful discussions with the liberals or now the center left wingers. But now we don't have because of this woke ideology that is also fueling the gender ideology movement.

It is really fruitfull in reality. Ang problema you base your reality on carefully curated contents designed to make you see the world the way you do. However I understand these changes are a big leap and hard for many people to swallow, especially those who do not understand the academics behind it.

At alam mo ba sources ng mga talking points mo na yan? It was from facebook's unethical handling of personal data which enabled individuals and organization to curate these talking points to produce polarization. The woke and the right wing are equally fools in this matter. They both use emotion in tackling these topics.

I suggest looking at these issue outside the context of politics. Avoiding the inflammatory contents will do a lot for you.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

It is really fruitfull in reality. Ang problema you base your reality on carefully curated contents designed to make you see the world the way you do. However I understand these changes are a big leap and hard for many people to swallow, especially those who do not understand the academics behind it.

At alam mo ba sources ng mga talking points mo na yan? It was from facebook's unethical handling of personal data which enabled individuals and organization to curate these talking points to produce polarization. The woke and the right wing are equally fools in this matter. They both use emotion in tackling these topics.

I suggest looking at these issue outside the context of politics. Avoiding the inflammatory contents will do a lot for you.

Wether you like it or not, everything is now being politicized. Everyone is being politically correct. Now, compared to back on the day it was not. As what I said, we conservatives accept changes, and thats a fact. The thing is the woke ideology is regress not progress. They practice tyrannical use of power. Same what is happening in canada. They use all means of media to shun or cancel those who have opinion about them. That's not how the liberals or the democrats do back on the day.

Example na dyan yung mga colleagues ni Dr. Jordan Peterson not able to speak freely in a parliamentary democratic country. afraid of loosing their license to teach even their jobs. And Dr. Jordan Peterson also strip with His license because of this woke movement.

In sports, have you heard of the testimony of Riley Gaines? The school is so into this gender ideology movement that they silence those who are competing with the sports thats include the NCAA. They allowed a man who was 500+ in ranking on men competition and tearing the division of women. Even her coach won't let her speak of the unfairness. On the national finals, both her and lia thomas finish the same time, it should be a draw but the NCAA gave it to lia thomas because they want to please this nonsense.

In religion, if we Christians don't want to make cake for same sèx wedding we are shun and have fines because of it. There are many more of this stories.

This have a ripple effect throughout every establishment ang bring fear unto those who have opinion against. Again, the original left wing don't do this. It happened because of the woke ideology.

Look also on James Lindsay.

You can't fight fire with fire, Jordan stepped out of his boundaries even alienating his like minded free thinkers.

Naging mapurol na sya overtime, heard him in a podcast and host low key laughing at his blunt responses.

napa isip ako na magiging meme nadin sya overtime at kahit na mga simpleton theologians at intellects tatawagan syang "neo nazi" for no known reasons.

Can you tell me which one are you talking about.

Because recently He hand a guest from one of the brightest Theologian and Mathematician from the christian community on his channel talking about morality. I am talking about Dr. John Lennox.

He also have a discussion with famous Youtuber atheist Alex O'Connor, who I also watch sometimes.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Ewan. Parang contradictory kapag sinasabi na conservative accept changes , e conservative nga sila. Parang ang nakikita ko ay dinideny nila ang self nila. Parang katulad ng isa dito. Sabi , ang babae conservative kuno ay pwede manligaw sa lalake. Sino ba iyon nagsabi dito? Ayaw raw niya na babae na liberated kuno. Ang weird............. kapag sinabi na conservative ay pinipreserve talaga nila kung ano ang minana ng kanilang magulang nila from generation to generation. Pini-preserve po nila ang tradition na ipinamana sa kanila. So hindi sila ganoon ka open ng ideas sa iba. Ganun ang alam ko na conservative dahil conservative nga sila.​

 

[mutagenesisx]

Wether you like it or not, everything is now being politicized. Everyone is being politically correct. Now, compared to back on the day it was not. As what I said, we conservatives accept changes, and thats a fact. The thing is the woke ideology is regress not progress. They practice tyrannical use of power. Same what is happening in canada. They use all means of media to shun or cancel those who have opinion about them. That's not how the liberals or the democrats do back on the day.

Example na dyan yung mga colleagues ni Dr. Jordan Peterson not able to speak freely in a parliamentary democratic country. afraid of loosing their license to teach even their jobs. And Dr. Jordan Peterson also strip with His license because of this woke movement.

In sports, have you heard of the testimony of Riley Gaines? The school is so into this gender ideology movement that they silence those who are competing with the sports thats include the NCAA. They allowed a man who was 500+ in ranking on men competition and tearing the division of women. Even her coach won't let her speak of the unfairness. On the national finals, both her and lia thomas finish the same time, it should be a draw but the NCAA gave it to lia thomas because they want to please this nonsense.

In religion, if we Christians don't want to make cake for same sèx wedding we are shun and have fines because of it. There are many more of this stories.

This have a ripple effect throughout every establishment ang bring fear unto those who have opinion against. Again, the original left wing don't do this. It happened because of the woke ideology.

Look also on James Lindsay.


Can you tell me which one are you talking about.

Because recently He hand a guest from one of the brightest Theologian and Mathematician from the christian community on his channel talking about morality. I am talking about Dr. John Lennox.

He also have a discussion with famous YøùTùbér atheist Alex O'Connor, who I also watch sometimes.

podcast ni bret weinstein sa spotify.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Wether you like it or not, everything is now being politicized. Everyone is being politically correct. Now, compared to back on the day it was not. As what I said, we conservatives accept changes, and thats a fact.

Haiz. If you really feel the urge to be rabid about it, the more i think you should be questioning yourself.
What is wrong with political correctness? It is just about decency in speech.. meron kang strong opinion on decency in clothing, yet you do not see the importance of proper speech?

They practice tyrannical use of power. Same what is happening in canada. They use all means of media to shun or cancel those who have opinion about them.

How is that tyrannical? Conservatives do use the power of media too. This is a manufactured victimization. The reality is, the most powerful people in this world are the ones pulling the strings in creating this polarized issues because it keeps them in power. That is why we all should be more critical about this issues and not solely base our reality in social media.

Na-settle na yang cake issue. It was a win for the christian cake maker. Nasaan ang tyranny dun? And it is not as if it was new for the US for people to sue each other for silly stuff. I think the Lawsuit industry could be one of those who are behind this polarization in society.

Is it really a ripple effect? How come t
You are still referring to the same cherry picked cases during the 2020 election? Considering the fact that it did not work, why are you recycling it again?

Albert Einstein: The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Haiz. If you really feel the urge to be rabid about it, the more i think you should be questioning yourself.
What is wrong with political correctness? It is just about decency in speech.. meron kang strong opinion on decency in clothing, yet you do not see the importance of proper speech?

Why are you only cherry picking my whole point? We are going circles with what your doing. You only mention political correctness when that was just part of the whole argument.

How is that tyrannical? Conservatives do use the power of media too. This is a manufactured victimization. The reality is, the most powerful people in this world are the ones pulling the strings in creating this polarized issues because it keeps them in power. That is why we all should be more critical about this issues and not solely base our reality in social media.

Na-settle na yang cake issue. It was a win for the christian cake maker. Nasaan ang tyranny dun? And it is not as if it was new for the US for people to sue each other for silly stuff. I think the Lawsuit industry could be one of those who are behind this polarization in society.

Is it really a ripple effect? How come t
You are still referring to the same cherry picked cases during the 2020 election? Considering the fact that it did not work, why are you recycling it again?

It's tyrannical when you use power to oppressed the other party by use of all means. In your eyes kasi nga your into inclusiveness and tolerance di mo nakikita, kasi nga kuno ang left is the victim. Cge nga sample, how do you know that the so called most powerful people in the world are the ones pulling the strings? May sample kaba with evidence to back it up.

Bakit wala kang masabi sa license ni Dr. Jordan Peterson? And the use to force pronounce that is a sign of tyranny.

Wag mong e shift that ang lawsuit industry nag po-polirize sa situation sa US ngayon, that is not whole part. Kasi lahat ay involve. everyone should be accountable.

But hindi mo rin ma menstion ang case ni Riley Gaines?

It's clearly a ripple effect, kasi nga people are afraid to speak in public.

At wala akong sinabi about election.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Ang akin, yung left, kahit hindi maganda pakinggan dahil meron na naglabel , ang maganda lang kasi for me which is matriarch raw, yung feminine, ang maganda po kasi hindi siya naka-gendered. Less rigid lang siya. Egalitarian po ang lahat ng broader range ng gender E×ρréššion. Flexible siya katulad ng water. Flexible ang gender role po nila.

E yung right wing, hindi naman. Iyan diba ang kinocondition ni Jordan Patterson about masculinity kaya ayaw niya ang mga taga social progressive katulad ng feminism movement at ang ibang group? Hindi flexible ang gender E×ρréššion or gender role po ng mga right wing. Nakakasal na eh. Pagkatapos meron pang dominant-dominant na nalalaman. I mean "dominance" the power to control or rule over to other gender po. Papaano nga hindi magkakaroon ng dominance, naka-gendered nga siya. Lalo na lalake ang tinutulak diyan pagdating sa dominance na expected sa kanila na maging assertive, emotional restraint (meron nagsabi dito na keyso ang lalake raw ay hindi emosyanal, pinaglaban niya talaga) pagkatapos men and women lang.

Nakakahinga pa ba ang mga tao diyan? Its like hindi magawa ma E×ρréšš ang tunay na kung ano at kung sino ka dahil kailangan pa sumunod kung ano ang expected ng tao sa kanya as a gender? Kailangan meron proper dress code according to their gender, kailangan proper ang pag behave according to their gender or whatever at meron pang proper decorum na expected po para sa mga tao na kailangan hindi sila lumampas sa kung ano ang normal na dapat ebehave as a gender po........ maraming iba pa.

Nakakasakal na kaya.

Kahit ako, nasasabihan ako na lalake dahil masyado raw ako "dominant". Meron nagsabi dito. Natukso pa ako na bakla or baka lalake raw ako. Pagkatapos nang sinabi ko na ako ang nag eexpress ng feelings kapag mahal ko ang lalake, ang reaction ng iba, natakot dahil unfamiliar sa iba na babae ang gumagawa nun dahil expected lang talaga na lalake lang ang gumagawa nun.

Talaga lang. As in.

And so... nawa'y maunawaan kung bakit nag-exist ang mga ganyan rights-rights at ang movement mismo. Ang woke, ang ibig sabihin ng woke ay aware po sila sa social injustice which is true naman. Wala naman halos justice sa society, kung kaya, nag-exist and woke. Yung mga tao na ayaw, I do not know, hindi naman nila nakikita ang social injustice dahil kampante na sila kung ano ang nakasanayan po nila and once na meron mag-intervene, kino-question mark na kung ano raw ang injustice na sinasabi? Ano daw ang ipinaglalaban?

Nagsasuffered ang tao. Gusto nila na meron mabago.

Yun lang.

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[Kaplok Kaplok]

Why are you only cherry picking my whole point? We are going circles with what your doing. You only mention political correctness when that was just part of the whole argument.

I think what you think cherry-picking means is not what it really means. Hindi ko gets gusto mong sabihin dito.

It's tyrannical when you use power to oppressed the other party by use of all means.

Really? How is the other party oppressed? Isn't that how democracy naturally works? People will use whatever capability they have to spread their views? It just happens na conservative views ang bumababa ang popularity.. well, lahat nmn ng natatalo gumagawa ng excuse on why their loss is unfair.

In your eyes kasi nga your into inclusiveness and tolerance di mo nakikita, kasi nga kuno ang left is the victim.

No, it is not the left that is the victim. Kung ilalabas mo ang pag-iisip mo sa right versus left mentality you would notice that there are underprivileged people through faults Not of their own, by simply being born of a certain race, gender, religion or class in society. There are established heirarchies and status in society that are obtained simply by birthright.
Research mo lang ang concept ng "divide and conquer" and you will see why we should not involve ourselves in this Left vs Right crap.

What do you want me to say with these examples? These are very specific cases picked by conservatives to serve their purpose. And they are not even interconnected in any way until they were compiled to serve the Trump's populist campaign. And here you are echoing the campaign like everyone else who was swept by the sensationalism, even forgetting the basic values taught by your religion towards empathy and tolerance.

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Really? How is the other party oppressed? Isn't that how democracy naturally works? People will use whatever capability they have to spread their views? It just happens na conservative views ang bumababa ang popularity.. well, lahat nmn ng natatalo gumagawa ng excuse on why their loss is unfair.

Lol! I already gave an some example of the tyranny. At walang nag excuse na or even nag rally na mga conservative sa mga streets di kagaya nga mga left nga sini-simp mo every now and then.

No, it is not the left that is the victim. Kung ilalabas mo ang pag-iisip mo sa right versus left mentality you would notice that there are underprivileged people through faults Not of their own, by simply being born of a certain race, gender, religion or class in society. There are established heirarchies and status in society that are obtained simply by birthright.
Research mo lang ang concept ng "divide and conquer" and you will see why we should not involve ourselves in this Left vs Right crap.

What do you want me to say with these examples? These are very specific cases picked by conservatives to serve their purpose. And they are not even interconnected in any way until they were compiled to serve the Trump's populist campaign. And here you are echoing the campaign like everyone else who was swept by the sensationalism, even forgetting the basic values taught by your religion towards empathy and tolerance.

Lol! I already address the facts that everything is politicized weather you like it or not. Wala kanang magagawa dyan kay the left using politics.

Lol! They are not picked as random. They are picked because they represent the true story on what is happening on the west. Ito lang naging major sa media, but marami na hindi nabalita.

Make excuse pa para e pahid sa campaign ni Trump ang mga issues nayan.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Lol! I already gave an some example of the tyranny. At walang nag excuse na or even nag rally na mga conservative sa mga streets di kagaya nga mga left nga sini-simp mo every now and then.

Pati rally minamasama mo? That is a fundamental right. That is not tyranny. Sobrang lose yata ng definition mo ng tyranny, or nagfo focus ka sa maling aspeto nito. Tyranny is not the mere use of power, it is the abuse of power, oppressing other beyond the ethical bounds.

Lol! I already address the facts that everything is politicized weather you like it or not. Wala kanang magagawa dyan kay the left using politics.

Sira ka ba? Left and right is within politics.. The right is also using power, mostly on the religion side which is just as influencial. Using power is not necessarily tyranny. The fact na buhay p yang mga talking points mo indicates there is no silencing nor oppression against the right. kaya nga dapat usisain mo ung issue outside of that left vs right thinking.

Maybe it is that thinking that everything is political that is leading you astray. We are all people first before politics.

Lol! They are not picked as random. They are picked because they represent the true story on what is happening on the west.

Basing your reality on sensationalist media will lead you to think that the tail and the trunk is the whole elephant, while the whole thing is out of your view.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Bahala na kayo. Haha Basta ayaw na ayaw ko sa bansang Pilipinas. Iyon lang iyon. Mahalin niyo ang bansang Pilipinas. Basta ako, nakipaghiwalay na ako sa bansang Pilipinas. Ayaw na ayaw ko na. Bahala na kayo manoblema about feminism, wokeism na iyan. Wala na ako magagawa diyan.​

 

[Gildarts Tale]

Pati rally minamasama mo? That is a fundamental right. That is not tyranny. Sobrang lose yata ng definition mo ng tyranny, or nagfo focus ka sa maling aspeto nito. Tyranny is not the mere use of power, it is the abuse of power, oppressing other beyond the ethical bounds.

Sinabi ko ba na rally is a form of tyranny. Lol! Magbasa kasi ng mabuti bago mag chery pickers. Back read anong mga example ko.

Sira ka ba? Left and right is within politics.. The right is also using power, mostly on the religion side which is just as influencial. Using power is not necessarily tyranny. The fact na buhay p yang mga talking points mo indicates there is no silencing nor oppression against the right. kaya nga dapat usisain mo ung issue outside of that left vs right thinking.

Maybe it is that thinking that everything is political that is leading you astray. We are all people first before politics.

Ikaw ata mas sira eh. Kaya nga sinabi ko lahat ay politicized. We are people nga first. But it still the underlining problem everything is politicized. If not walang gagawin na mga legislation for it.

Basing your reality on sensationalist media will lead you to think that the tail and the trunk is the whole elephant, while the whole thing is out of your view.

did I based my facts on sensationist media? Or your just asumming?

I get it kasi gaya ng mga nag pupush ng ideology movement na simp na simp ka, wala kayong masabi that your ideology is ruining somebody, specially their careers and on sports.