🕯️ Traditions Sino dito yung agnostic?

[zuhair]

Ano yma paps?

 

[plhbg1]

Hyphothesis is evidence based… ung evidence na un ang basehan to form that educated guess… then u test it to know whether its true or false…

you keep on attaching yang hope and desire sa belief…

Pag sinabing

“I believe the sky is purple”

Ano ibig sabihin nean for you??

Or pag sinabi na

“I hope the sky is purple.”

“I wish the sky was purple”

“I guess the sky is purple”


Alin sa mga yan ang related somewhat at alin nmn ung iba ung meaning completely??

ah magkaiba pala tayo ng order ng scienctific method, sakin kasi guess muna bago data gathering as part of the experimentation proper, most people confuse review of existing data (readily available and related) with gathering new data

hope and wish are same with believe, there is a presence of desire, guessing is requesting a test (no desire of a specific outcome)

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

ah magkaiba pala tayo ng order ng scienctific method, sakin kasi guess muna bago data gathering as part of the experimentation proper, most people confuse review of existing data (related ones) with gathering new data

hope and wish are same with believe, there is a presence of desire, guessing is requesting a test (no desire of a specific outcome)

Ang scientific method ay hnd iba sa Criminal investigation. Hindi ka pwede maging suspect kung walang evidence. Evidence is not a proven data. But it is still data. At data na kailangan mo before you form a reasonable suspicion.
Kung iaapply ung scientific process mo sa investigation, Kung sino sino lang ituturo mong suspect.

 

[plhbg1]

Evidence is not a proven data.

ahaha good luck sa iyo boss, sa iyo ko lang narinig na kailangan pa i-prove ang isang evidence hehe ok lang yan talaga

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

ahaha good luck sa iyo boss, sa iyo ko lang narinig na kailangan i-prove ang isang evidence hehe ok lang yan talaga

San mo ba narinig na ang evidence ay proven?
Dun mo rin siguro nakuha degree mo

Google lang boss: difference of evidence and proof

 

[plhbg1]

Google lang boss: difference of evidence and proof

ahaha google listed proof as synonym for evidence hahaha good luck na lang talaga sa iyo boss

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

ahaha google listed proof as synonym for evidence hahaha good luck na lang talaga sa iyo boss

Hinanap mo ba ung difference? O hinanap mo ung confirmation bias mo.

 

[plhbg1]

Hinanap mo ba ung difference? O hinanap mo ung confirmation bias mo.

ewan ko kay google, ang bias talaga ni google, gawin ba namang synonym yung dalawa, eto talagang si google pasaway

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

ewan ko kay google, ang bias talaga ni google, gawin ba namang synonym yung dalawa, eto talagang si google pasaway

enough sa google ang similar pra.ilista yan sa listahan mo. Similar is does not mean equal. Common knowledge ang difference ng evidence at proof. Kung ayaw mo isearch alam na this.

Kahit mag hanap ka lng ng isang sentence na nagsasabi na "evidence is proven data" sa buong internet, mareredeem mo na sarili mo.

 

[jayendecastro]

ah magkaiba pala tayo ng order ng scienctific method, sakin kasi guess muna bago data gathering as part of the experimentation proper, most people confuse review of existing data (readily available and related) with gathering new data

hope and wish are same with believe, there is a presence of desire, guessing is requesting a test (no desire of a specific outcome)

Oo magkaiba.. yang sinasabi ko data gathering is part of the stage ng pagtetest hyphothesis… pero to formulate one ano magiging basehan mo?? Random guess lang??

Di ganon… may foundation din ang hypothesis na data and evidence… na eventually itetest nga..

Insert ka ng insert ng mga technical and scientific terms para gawing padding sa statements mo na wala nman coherence…

Scientific method pero baka pananaw mo pa din up to now na ang scientific theory eh “theory lang at di law”

 

[plhbg1]

Oo magkaiba.. yang sinasabi ko data gathering is part of the stage ng pagtetest hyphothesis… pero to formulate one ano magiging basehan mo?? Random guess lang??

Di ganon… may foundation din ang hypothesis na data and evidence… na eventually itetest nga..

Insert ka ng insert ng mga technical and scientific terms para gawing padding sa statements mo na wala nman coherence…

kaya nga sabi ko you just confuse review of existing data (available and related) with the gathering of new data

Scientific method pero baka pananaw mo pa din up to now na ang scientific theory eh “theory lang at di law”

ahaha na remember mo pa pala iyan, yung merong nag impose sa akin na need ko daw i-glorify ang theory haha

 

[jayendecastro]

San mo ba narinig na ang evidence ay proven?
Dun mo rin siguro nakuha degree mo

Google lang boss: difference of evidence and proof

Baka gusto nakapowerpoint pa ung paliwanag

kaya nga sabi ko you just confuse review of existing data (available and related) with the gathering of new data

ahaha na remember mo pa pala iyan, yung merong nag impose sa akin na need ko daw i-glorify ang theory haha

And existing data is a form of what?? Any guess??

Kung naniniwala ka sa scientific method gaya ng pinproclaim mo then yes.. glorified ang scientific theory sa mga taong may knowledge at respect sa scientific method…

Gets ko na now why nasabi mo na “theory lang” ang scientific theory… hula ko nagbased ka sa synonyms, am i right?? Hahahahaha

 

[plhbg1]

Baka gusto nakapowerpoint pa ung paliwanag

di na ako interested sa mga reply niya kasi lalabas lang na magko-comment ako sa kanya kasi sunund-sunod ang disagreement ko kada reply niya wala man lang akong ma-agree kahit isa

And existing data is a form of what?? Any guess??

different forms all you have to do is search for them, this is to make sure that you are not stupid enough to test something that's already proven

Kung naniniwala ka sa scientific method gaya ng pinproclaim mo then yes.. glorified ang scientific theory sa mga taong may knowledge at respect sa scientific method…

meron namang konting glorification by using them diba enough naman siguro iyon

Gets ko na now why nasabi mo na “theory lang” ang scientific theory… hula ko nagbased ka sa synonyms, am i right?? Hahahahaha

ahaha make it a verb para mas klaro let's say theorize, dami theories meron philosophical, scientific etc., all of them are prediction at the time of their conception, don't worry kasi sa akin lang 'to hehe to theorize something is to predict something

 

[sanskuro]

Hindi kompleto kung naniniwala ka lang sa diyos at di sinusunod ang utos. Ang diyos nga ang nagsabi na sumunod sa utos

 

[jayendecastro]

different forms all you have to do is search for them, this is to make sure that you are not stupid enough to test something that's already proven

Ano toh?? Tinatanong kita kung ano ang existing data.. fill in the blanks mo na lang para mas madali

Existing data is a form of _______________.

Gets mo na??

meron namang konting glorification by using them diba enough naman siguro iyon

Ano din toh?? Sobra mo nman dinodownplay ang importance ng scientific theory nean… kala ko science based agnostic ka??

Parang utang na loob pa ng scientific theory ung pag gamit sa kanya ah

Hahahaha

ahaha make it a verb para mas klaro let's say theorize, dami theories meron philosophical, scientific etc., all of them are prediction at the time of their conception, don't worry kasi sa akin lang 'to hehe to theorize something is to predict something

Clearly sayo nga lang yan.. so bakit mo sinasabi lagi na “science-based” kay paulit ulit na pag drop ng “scientific method” tapos eh “sa akin lang to” nman pla… ikaw din pala ung sinasabi mo na ayaw na mga “subjective” na kamo eh “not logical”.. ikaw na ikaw yan eh…

Isa pa yan… theorizing something is to predict something… theories can be used to make predictions.. hindi sila predictions by themselves…

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

di na ako interested sa mga reply niya kasi lalabas lang na magko-comment ako sa kanya kasi sunund-sunod ang disagreement ko kada reply niya wala man lang akong ma-agree kahit isa

Wala nmn problema sa disagreement as long as may basis. As long as may data to support your claim.
Kahit ung claim mo nung scientific method mo hnd mo pa nasusupport.

 

[jayendecastro]

Wala nmn problema sa disagreement as long as may basis. As long as may data to support your claim.
Kahit ung claim mo nung scientific method mo hnd mo pa nasusupport.

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Science based daw and scientific method kuno pero may pahabol lagi na “dont worry..sa akin lang to”

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Science based daw and scientific method kuno pero may pahabol lagi na “dont worry..sa akin lang to”

Yan mga salita nya na yan ung dahilan kaya nung una akala ko malalim.
Sama mo na din "ok lang rin yan"
Saka ung "toinks". dinadagdag lng yata nya yan to insult ung kausap nya indirectly. At yan lng din ata purpose nya dito. Pra insultuhin mga naguusap.

 

[plhbg1]

Wala nmn problema sa disagreement as long as may basis. As long as may data to support your claim.
Kahit ung claim mo nung scientific method mo hnd mo pa nasusupport.

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hehe cofusing review of existing data (available & related) with gathering of new data

Ano toh?? Tinatanong kita kung ano ang existing data.. fill in the blanks mo na lang para mas madali

Existing data is a form of _______________.

different forms pa din, available & related, ok lang iyan di mo gets baka di mo familiar ang RRL

Ano din toh?? Sobra mo nman dinodownplay ang importance ng scientific theory nean… kala ko science based agnostic ka??

Parang utang na loob pa ng scientific theory ung pag gamit sa kanya ah

ahaha science based ako but that doesn't mean i worship science, nothing is above me in running my life

Clearly sayo nga lang yan.. so bakit mo sinasabi lagi na “science-based” kay paulit ulit na pag drop ng “scientific method” tapos eh “sa akin lang to” nman pla… ikaw din pala ung sinasabi mo na ayaw na mga “subjective” na kamo eh “not logical”.. ikaw na ikaw yan eh…

Isa pa yan… theorizing something is to predict something… theories can be used to make predictions.. hindi sila predictions by themselves…

Science based daw and scientific method kuno pero may pahabol lagi na “dont worry..sa akin lang to”

yes it's because i don't go with the conventional glorification, theories are predictions at the time of their conception for me and laws are direct observation for me, i don't agree with the conventional equality of theories and laws

Yan mga salita nya na yan ung dahilan kaya nung una akala ko malalim.
Sama mo na din "ok lang rin yan"
Saka ung "toinks". dinadagdag lng yata nya yan to insult ung kausap nya indirectly. At yan lng din ata purpose nya dito. Pra insultuhin mga naguusap.

thanks for the comment about insult, iko-consider ko iyan

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

ahaha science based ako but that doesn't mean i worship science, nothing is above me in running my life

I get where youre coming from. Maybe hindi pa buo ang world view mo. Or maybe you dont find comfort on either science or religion. Agnostcism is the closest to comfort.

yes it's because i don't go with conventional glorification, theories are predictions for me and laws are direct observation for me, i don't agree with the conventional equality of theories and laws

Same position ng flat earthers.