Eh pano yan man-made din ang mga book of science? Pwede ko bang sabihin na lahat ng Book of Science ay hindi credible at mali? Saan mo ba ako gusto mag-base?
-yes, man made ang mga books containing scientific studies, explaining many phenomenon. Credibility and correctness?? U know nmn sguro ang process bago makapagpublish ng scientific studies ryt?? Test, test, test...independent testing and pag same result each time maeestablish un until it can be proven wrong or inaccurate.. and im hoping alam mo din nman sguro ang retractions?? Even scientist retract some of their works pag napatunayang mali.
So san nga magbabase?? Kung ano ang true and accurate at our present time. Can it change? NO..Is it absolute? NO
Kaya nga inexplain ko ito gamit ang law of gravity. Dahil alam naman natin na it has been proven na it exist and is 100% correct at hindi pwedeng ideny yan.
- gravity. Law sya. Cant deny yan and anyone can even demostrate it. How is gravity attributed to god nga?
Are you saying dito na non-beliver ka as a non-believer? at Hindi ka pumapanig sa Evolution theory or Big Bang theory?
tama ba ang term ko na you are "in-between"? (wag muna natin gamitin ang word na atheist)
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Bat mo ba kasi pinupunta sa ako magbibigay ng proof eh i never made any claim nga..hahahaha.. im questioning and not believing the claim of god's existence. I didnt claim na walang god kasi i cant prove that, ur claiming that there is so the burden of proof falls sayo. Hope u get the difference of non believing and believing.
U dont get my point eh, i dont need proof to not believe...i will however need one to believe..BELIEVE IN GOD sinasabi ko and nothing else..ung pagiginy atheist ang sinasabi ko. Kung maaddress mo yang proof requirement ng EXISTENCE NG GOD then macoconvince mo ko.
As i said, atheism is the non-belief of god/deity. Okay?
Di porket atheist eh evolutionist. Pdng atheist and evolutionist, pdng atheist na secular din. Ang premise lang ng atheist is NON-BELIEF IN GOD. YUN LANG. he can adopt other principles that he wants pero ang ONLY premise is NON-BELIEF IN GOD.
okay?? So stop injecting na porket atheist ako eh matic evolutionist agad. Kinaklaro ko lang ang atheism ko..okay??
Now, outside my atheism..para sagutin ko lang.YES, i believe that big bang and evolution ang current best model for explaining the origin of life and the cosmos. Why "current"? Kase as ive said numerous times..wala pang absolute truth. No one has come up with that yet. NO ONE. not a medieval storyteller, not the combined minds of the smartest scientist etc..NO ONE.
address ko na yan in two parts ha..atheism is not equivalent to evolutionist, big bang, aliens, or any of that..okay??
Ang theory ba ni Richard Dawkins ang pinaniniwalaan mo? Or ginamit mo lang yung quote niya? Kasi parang pareho kayo ng thinking eh, or can I assume na sa kanya galing yung information na meron ka?
- duuuh..u brought him up db?? So malamang gagamitin ko din quote nea. You flaunted his credentials tapos now parang lukewarm ka na about him?
Yung studies nea about life's complexity in relation to evolution..yes..maganda ang explanation nya non at syempre may data sya for that. Like u said, he's a scientist so alam mo n nmm sguro ang proseso bago mag claim ang isang scientist..if not pakibasa ulit sa taas.
And i dont single out Dawkins. Di sya ang ultimate source ng truth sa mga aspeto ng science. Madame scientist and usually may kanya kanya silang specialization. If its a consensus in the scientfic community then its hard to deny that. May consensus ba sa religious or theist community?? Nope..may division pa nga db, from the largest religions to small sects di pare pareho ang paniniwala.
(Tingin ko ito palang masasagot ko sa mga questions mo)
In this statement. Partly siguro masasabi kong hindi niyo maiintindihan ni Dawkins yan.
Kasi Bible question yan that needs Bible explanation.
- di maiintindihan si Dawkins?? He wrote that sa book nea. And he was asked about it and confirmed it all the time na yun ang meant nea. Dinescribe nea si god as per the bible, kung ano ang portrayal kay god sa bible specifically the old testament god.
He was not asking, he was stating his opinion of god. So whatt do u mean na bible question yon? And wat explanation do u mean?
Yes it's true, but it only applies for Human Beings and its morale.
But it doesn't apply to God. God is Perfect. God can give you life or can take your life. He owns it, remember?
- again, he made a statement describing GOD. if u say its true alin part don?? Lahat?
Only applies to human beings and morale? Huh?? So u think lahat ng ginawa ni god na un is morally correct kasi dios sya at tao lang tayo?
Oh yes, sa bible sinabi he created life..adam and eve..and from there nagstart ang humanity.. twice sya literally nag create ng tao..twice..can u count how many lives he took??
Baket nea pinatay at pinarusahan?? Kasi sinners? He made laws to follow. Then gave mankind the "gift" of free will na eventually leads to vulnerablity na mabreak ang laws nea, tapos ipupunish nea? Paparusahan? Papatayin? Is that some sick joke?
Kung wala ka pang pamilya baka di ka makarelate.pero for me, i have two daughters and a son..kung ikaw nasa situation ko. Kaya mo ba bigyan ng rules mga anak mo na alam mo eventually mbbreak nila, kaya mo pagdusahin ang mga sarili mong anak? Can u take their lives for that?? CAN YOU?
I CANT. AND I WONT DO THAT TO MY CHILDREN.
Pero pd nmn magsisi and magbago..may kapatawaran naman. Then why set the rules in the first place! Ano torturan lang??
As a parent i set rules kasi i cant control and cant know everything. Ibang kaso pag si god. Kasi nga alam nea lahat yan dapat. Kontrolado nea lahat yan dapat. So why?? Either he cant, which makes him not so pwerful, or he wont which means he doesnt care.
He is Absolute. His Rule is Absolute. You can not dictate Him what is right or wrong. Siya nga yung Divine Ruler eh.. How can you rule yourself if you are the Ruler? a dumb question diba?
Hindi Niya alam ang SIN. Ang SIN para sa Kanya ay yung hindi mo pagsunod sa utos Niya.
-Hindi pagsunod sa utos nea?? May story dun na ung tatay or nanay iooffer na marape ang anak nila sa mga lasing na tambay para protektahan ang mga angels na pinadala ni god. Kaya mo gawin sa mga anak mo yan?
Slavery..may set ng rules si god jan kung pano ka magttrato sa slaves mo..pd mo bugbugin as long as di sya mamatay sau within 3 days..pag binugbog mo at namatay on the 4th day..cool kay god un. Tamang utos??
Pagpatay ng mga bata sa numerous mass killings nea?? Bata, unborn children...tama din ba?
As for being a ruler, effective ba ang ruler di kayang pasunurin ang nasasakupan nea?
Tao lang tayo at Siya ay Diyos, so don't compare it. There is a huge difference. (Sana magets mo ko dito)
- yep..huge difference. One is real, the other..well..alam mo yun 
PS: Clear na sana ung sa atheism ha. Non-belief sa god. So dun ka magfocus..iaddress mo ung premise ng atheism ko and not what may view on life's origin is.bClear nman sa title at sa inquiry ni TS kung ano usapan dito..
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