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jayendecastro kahit tol ano sabihin mo mahal ka ng Diyos
jayendecastro
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Sa dame ng mga pinapaniwalaan ng mga tao di lahat pwede respetuhin.. i can acknowledge their belief, but respecting it is another thing. Sabi nga db..respect is earned.
Yung mga nakikita mo sa kalsada na naninwala na sila daw ay ibang tao, milyonaryo, may kapangyarihan etc.. they believe that,. Di ba pagttawanan nyo at kukutyain... Better kung maawa kayo sana eh
tol ito nalang mapapayu ko sayu.. kahit hindi kananiniwala sa Diyos.. gumawa kalang ng kabutihan...
jayendecastro
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I dont think that has any bearing with my life pero thanks?? Seryoso..no bad blood...
Naman tol..syempre naman...im saying lang na i dont need a god to be a good person..nasabi ko nga dati na may morality is based on people. Theist man or atheist... Kung masama kayo sken i can either be just as bad or will not care. I believe in people. Un bottomline
bsta kung ano sinisigaw ng puso mo sundin mo... wag ka mag papadala sa mga nauuso lamang na makikita sa social media.. kahit nga c Albert Einstein na matalino naniniwala na may DiosI dont think that has any bearing with my life pero thanks?? Seryoso..no bad blood...
Naman tol..syempre naman...im saying lang na i dont need a god to be a good person..nasabi ko nga dati na may morality is based on people. Theist man or atheist... Kung masama kayo sken i can either be just as bad or will not care. I believe in people. Un bottomline
jayendecastro
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Huh?? Sabi ko nga sau..kahit harsh pa words mo na di ako nakikisali sa uso... So stop saying na uso uso lang... Im 35... Started questioning my faith when i was in college pa lang..i was 20 ata non... Self discovery yon at di bigla biglaan. Pero kung and dating sayo eh nagiging uso ang atheism, then as an atheist i will take that as good thing..kasi napaguusapn at nadidiscuss...kasi madame na, ang sabi nga ni TS, eh "nagigising" sna gets mo na yan jan??
Sa kpop pa nakikiuso ako. Di ko maiwasan kase may 10yr daughter ako at mga pamangkin na expose na expose sa mga army army na yan... Anyeong!
Bsta Gumawa kalang ng kabutihan sa iyong kapwa.. sana darating ang panahon na maniniwala ka na merong Diyos tolHuh?? Sabi ko nga sau..kahit harsh pa words mo na di ako nakikisali sa uso... So stop saying na uso uso lang... Im 35... Started questioning my faith when i was in college pa lang..i was 20 ata non... Self discovery yon at di bigla biglaan. Pero kung and dating sayo eh nagiging uso ang atheism, then as an atheist i will take that as good thing..kasi napaguusapn at nadidiscuss...kasi madame na, ang sabi nga ni TS, eh "nagigising" sna gets mo na yan jan??
Sa kpop pa nakikiuso ako. Di ko maiwasan kase may 10yr daughter ako at mga pamangkin na expose na expose sa mga army army na yan... Anyeong!
di sya tol naniniwala ehh.,. hinahanapan nya nga kami ng signature sa mga nilikha ng diyos.. bakit daw ang mga celpon may signature ehh yung araw at buwan walang marka ng Diyos
jayendecastro
okay gets na kita. I-clarify ko lang ha. Kasi I need specific question para makuha ko yung desired answer mo, and some of your statements ay pinagsama ko na rin para madali basahin :
1. Ay naku..may "comma" dun..bible based , nature based
Meaning, options un..choices...di ko sila pinaghalo..
Eh pano yan man-made din ang mga book of science? Pwede ko bang sabihin na lahat ng Book of Science ay hindi credible at mali? Saan mo ba ako gusto mag-base?
Kaya nga inexplain ko ito gamit ang law of gravity. Dahil alam naman natin na it has been proven na it exist and is 100% correct at hindi pwedeng ideny yan.
2. Bat mo ba kasi pinupunta sa ako magbibigay ng proof eh i never made any claim nga..hahahaha.. im questioning and not believing the claim of god's existence. I didnt claim na walang god kasi i cant prove that, ur claiming that there is so the burden of proof falls sayo. Hope u get the difference of non believing and believing.
U dont get my point eh, i dont need proof to not believe...i will however need one to believe..BELIEVE IN GOD sinasabi ko and nothing else..ung pagiginy atheist ang sinasabi ko. Kung maaddress mo yang proof requirement ng EXISTENCE NG GOD then macoconvince mo ko.
Are you saying dito na non-beliver ka as a non-believer? at Hindi ka pumapanig sa Evolution theory or Big Bang theory?
tama ba ang term ko na you are "in-between"? (wag muna natin gamitin ang word na atheist)
And yes, familiar ako kay dawkins. Yung complexity of life and how he explains it is genius imo. And jan sa minention mo ung
"The main residual reason why I was religious was from being so impressed with the complexity of life and feeling that it had to have a designer, and I think it was when I realised that Darwinism was a far superior explanation that pulled the rug out from under the argument of design."
Residual - konting natitira
Was - past tense, used to be
Far superior explanation - duuuh?
And the intelligent designer he was saying, he offered a possibility of one, thru evolution na may past lifeforms na nagevolve to super high level of intelligence and that they design the life that will eventually exist on our planet. He mentioned that as a possibility and never did he attributed that designer to god.
Tsaka isa pa..Dawkins was asked numerous times on san nagstart lahat...ang life... He said its a slow process, involving molecules and stuff but ultimately his answer was "I dont know" and "nor does anyone know"....
Ang theory ba ni Richard Dawkins ang pinaniniwalaan mo? Or ginamit mo lang yung quote niya? Kasi parang pareho kayo ng thinking eh, or can I assume na sa kanya galing yung information na meron ka?
Do u even know the words he used to describe god?? U can post it hir too if u want since u brought up Dawkins na din. No wait..here it is na:
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."
(Tingin ko ito palang masasagot ko sa mga questions mo)
In this statement. Partly siguro masasabi kong hindi niyo maiintindihan ni Dawkins yan.
Kasi Bible question yan that needs Bible explanation.
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character" jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."
Yes it's true, but it only applies for Human Beings and its morale.
But it doesn't apply to God. God is Perfect. God can give you life or can take your life. He owns it, remember?
He is Absolute. His Rule is Absolute. You can not dictate Him what is right or wrong. Siya nga yung Divine Ruler eh.. How can you rule yourself if you are the Ruler? a dumb question diba?
Hindi Niya alam ang SIN. Ang SIN para sa Kanya ay yung hindi mo pagsunod sa utos Niya.
Tao lang tayo at Siya ay Diyos, so don't compare it. There is a huge difference. (Sana magets mo ko dito)
okay gets na kita. I-clarify ko lang ha. Kasi I need specific question para makuha ko yung desired answer mo, and some of your statements ay pinagsama ko na rin para madali basahin :
1. Ay naku..may "comma" dun..bible based , nature based
Meaning, options un..choices...di ko sila pinaghalo..
Eh pano yan man-made din ang mga book of science? Pwede ko bang sabihin na lahat ng Book of Science ay hindi credible at mali? Saan mo ba ako gusto mag-base?
Kaya nga inexplain ko ito gamit ang law of gravity. Dahil alam naman natin na it has been proven na it exist and is 100% correct at hindi pwedeng ideny yan.
2. Bat mo ba kasi pinupunta sa ako magbibigay ng proof eh i never made any claim nga..hahahaha.. im questioning and not believing the claim of god's existence. I didnt claim na walang god kasi i cant prove that, ur claiming that there is so the burden of proof falls sayo. Hope u get the difference of non believing and believing.
U dont get my point eh, i dont need proof to not believe...i will however need one to believe..BELIEVE IN GOD sinasabi ko and nothing else..ung pagiginy atheist ang sinasabi ko. Kung maaddress mo yang proof requirement ng EXISTENCE NG GOD then macoconvince mo ko.
Are you saying dito na non-beliver ka as a non-believer? at Hindi ka pumapanig sa Evolution theory or Big Bang theory?
tama ba ang term ko na you are "in-between"? (wag muna natin gamitin ang word na atheist)
And yes, familiar ako kay dawkins. Yung complexity of life and how he explains it is genius imo. And jan sa minention mo ung
"The main residual reason why I was religious was from being so impressed with the complexity of life and feeling that it had to have a designer, and I think it was when I realised that Darwinism was a far superior explanation that pulled the rug out from under the argument of design."
Residual - konting natitira
Was - past tense, used to be
Far superior explanation - duuuh?
And the intelligent designer he was saying, he offered a possibility of one, thru evolution na may past lifeforms na nagevolve to super high level of intelligence and that they design the life that will eventually exist on our planet. He mentioned that as a possibility and never did he attributed that designer to god.
Tsaka isa pa..Dawkins was asked numerous times on san nagstart lahat...ang life... He said its a slow process, involving molecules and stuff but ultimately his answer was "I dont know" and "nor does anyone know"....
Ang theory ba ni Richard Dawkins ang pinaniniwalaan mo? Or ginamit mo lang yung quote niya? Kasi parang pareho kayo ng thinking eh, or can I assume na sa kanya galing yung information na meron ka?
Do u even know the words he used to describe god?? U can post it hir too if u want since u brought up Dawkins na din. No wait..here it is na:
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."
(Tingin ko ito palang masasagot ko sa mga questions mo)
In this statement. Partly siguro masasabi kong hindi niyo maiintindihan ni Dawkins yan.
Kasi Bible question yan that needs Bible explanation.
"The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character" jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully."
Yes it's true, but it only applies for Human Beings and its morale.
But it doesn't apply to God. God is Perfect. God can give you life or can take your life. He owns it, remember?
He is Absolute. His Rule is Absolute. You can not dictate Him what is right or wrong. Siya nga yung Divine Ruler eh.. How can you rule yourself if you are the Ruler? a dumb question diba?
Hindi Niya alam ang SIN. Ang SIN para sa Kanya ay yung hindi mo pagsunod sa utos Niya.
Tao lang tayo at Siya ay Diyos, so don't compare it. There is a huge difference. (Sana magets mo ko dito)
Matagal na pala akong nahimbing di ko alam, tulog kasi ako
Pero bat ganun pag gising ako alam kong gising ako, pag tulog ako alam ko rin tulog lang ako at nananaginip,
tapos malalaman ko pamahiin lang daw pala si god
maganda pa naman yung proposition of an afterlife at heavenly reward pano na lang yung reward ko sa pagiging mabuti, walang saysay
Sana naman totoo si God, kahit sa bagong daigdig Niya na lang ako mapadpad sa ikalawang buhay at katawan ko kahit di na ako mabilang sa kanyang bagong langit na Kanyang gagawin.
Balita ko dun perpekto na ang blueprint ng new earth wala ng lindol at ang katawan ng tao ay maaring mabuhay ng tigsasanlibong taon, mas maayos at may sistema daw ang pamamahala nila dun dahil may gabay 24 oras at ang hustisya ay umiiral. Parang ayaw ko nga manilbihan sa new heaven dun bawal ata mag asawa mga heavenly priest dun? Sa bagong lupa lang ako mamumuhay sana magkakasama rin kami ng mga mahal sa buhay ko sa New world, sana may version din ng American dream ang pamumuhay dun sa New World, mag aani ka ng sagana at madaling uunlad kung magsisikap dahil walang kurakot at mga balakyot na sistema ng pamamahala hayyyy, saraap
Ay nagising ako!
Sinong gumising sa akin! TS!!!!!
Pero bat ganun pag gising ako alam kong gising ako, pag tulog ako alam ko rin tulog lang ako at nananaginip
,tapos malalaman ko pamahiin lang daw pala si god
maganda pa naman yung proposition of an afterlife at heavenly reward pano na lang yung reward ko sa pagiging mabuti, walang saysay
Sana naman totoo si God, kahit sa bagong daigdig Niya na lang ako mapadpad sa ikalawang buhay at katawan ko kahit di na ako mabilang sa kanyang bagong langit na Kanyang gagawin.
Balita ko dun perpekto na ang blueprint ng new earth wala ng lindol at ang katawan ng tao ay maaring mabuhay ng tigsasanlibong taon, mas maayos at may sistema daw ang pamamahala nila dun dahil may gabay 24 oras at ang hustisya ay umiiral. Parang ayaw ko nga manilbihan sa new heaven dun bawal ata mag asawa mga heavenly priest dun? Sa bagong lupa lang ako mamumuhay sana magkakasama rin kami ng mga mahal sa buhay ko sa New world, sana may version din ng American dream ang pamumuhay dun sa New World, mag aani ka ng sagana at madaling uunlad kung magsisikap dahil walang kurakot at mga balakyot na sistema ng pamamahala hayyyy, saraap
Ay nagising ako!
Sinong gumising sa akin! TS!!!!!
Pkarldenver
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The perspective of the unbelievers is kapag nakita na nila ay tsaka pa sila maniniwala . God has a purpose of whats happening in the world may sarili siyang way. na higit pa sa iniisip mo
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Sa lagay pala eh gumagawa ka ng naaayon sa kautusan dahil may nakikita kang nagbabantay sa iyo (to see is to believe), tapos kapag walang nagbabantay sayo ,eh libre kana mag bulakbol? Ode lumalabas pakitang tao ka lang pala, hindi bukal sa loob mo ang sumunod sa mga utos ng Dios?ode nawala na ang faith , ano na tawag sayo niyan mapagpakunwari gumagawa ka ng mabuti dahil nakikita mo ang Dios ng literal
Yan ba gusto mangyari ng mga physicists?
Yan ba gusto mangyari ng mga physicists?
Na misinterpret mo ata ako, wat i mean sa pinaniniwalaan is ung religion. God is Good.. kung atheist ka well wala ako paki alam kaw yan eh. Sariling buhay mo yan. May kanya kanya taung pananaw o paniniwala. Wag nalang sana mang bash ng religion kasi para sakin kaya nagiging masama imahe ng isang religion is dahil sa mga mali gawa ng taong nanampalataya dito.
Isa.55:8 Sapagka't ang aking mga pagiisip ay hindi ninyo mga pagiisip, o ang inyo mang mga lakad ay aking mga lakad, sabi ng Panginoon.
Isa.55:9 Sapagka't kung paanong ang langit ay lalong mataas kay sa lupa, gayon ang aking mga lakad ay lalong mataas kay sa inyong mga lakad, at ang aking mga pagiisip kay sa inyong mga pagiisip.
Diyan muna ako maniniwala since wala rin namang malinaw na sagot ang science sa origin ng life atleast yong being na nagsabi sa verse na yan ang nagsabi.....may pinagmulan ang lahat.kahit anong gawin ng tao na magmataas ng pagiisip hindi nila malalampasan ang deklerasyon na nasa verse na yan.
Isa.55:9 Sapagka't kung paanong ang langit ay lalong mataas kay sa lupa, gayon ang aking mga lakad ay lalong mataas kay sa inyong mga lakad, at ang aking mga pagiisip kay sa inyong mga pagiisip.
Diyan muna ako maniniwala since wala rin namang malinaw na sagot ang science sa origin ng life atleast yong being na nagsabi sa verse na yan ang nagsabi.....may pinagmulan ang lahat.kahit anong gawin ng tao na magmataas ng pagiisip hindi nila malalampasan ang deklerasyon na nasa verse na yan.
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