🕯️ Traditions What is atheism - a common misconception

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How did our universe come into existence? We don't know that yet.

Simple.
Nasagot na to ng mga scientists.

Marami nang scientific theories tungkol sa origin ng universe at lahat ng un ay naturalistic. Ibig sabihin hindi kelangan ng diyos para malikha ang universe.

Ito ung iba't-ibang Pre-Big Bang models/cosmogonical theories o mga theory tungkol sa pinagmulan ng universe:

1. Hartle-Hawking
2. Linde-Vilenkin's chaotic inflation
3. Ekpyrotic universe
4. Loop quantum gravity
5. Fecunde universe
6. Zero-energy universe
7. Brane cosmology
8. Special Black Hole hypothesis
9. Big Bounce
10. Cosmology from quantum potential

Lahat ng yan hindi nangangailangan ng diyos para malikha ang universe at walang cosmologist ang naniniwalang diyos ang lumikha sa universe.
 
Hindi lahat ng nasa science facts, so should we also believe on that?
Lahat ng theories sa science ay rational at logical. Lahat ng un pwedeng i-E×ρréšš sa mathematical equations.

Hindi mo pwedeng gawan ng mathematical formulations ang religion dahil illogical ang religion.
 
Dalawa ang components ng science:

1. Rationalism - mga bagay na rational at logical kahit wala pang ebidensya, e.g. aliens, multiverse, string theory, abiogenesis

2. Empiricism - mga bagay na may ebidensya o naobserbahan na, e.g. evolution, gravity, black holes, subatomic particles

Hindi rational at hindi empirical ang diyos, magic at religion.
 
So atheists ba ako muslim ako pero hindi ako naniniwala na totoo tlaga ang GOD pero at the same time naniniwala din ako kasi di ko naman ma claim tlaga kung may totoong GOD o wala so in short 50/50 na hindi ako naniniwala and at the same time naniwala, like nag tatanong ako o nag iisip ng sarili na may GOD ba o wala
 
So walang sapat na ebidensiya, so pwede ba nating sabihin na hindi totoo ang universe at katang isip lang ito na gawa ng mga tao?
Anong klaseng tanong yan? Anong hindi totoo ang Universe? Earth, Planets, Stars at iba pang nakikita sa kalawakan ay part of Universe 😂 Alam mo bago ka magtatanong about sa pag exist ng Universe pag-aralan mo muna ang Earth. Masyado nang malayo kung Universe na ang pag-uusapan masyadong malawak yun at wala pa tayong sapat na kagamitan; sa ngayon satilites at space telescope lang muna.
 
"Idealism" ang tawag sa paniniwalang hindi totoo ang universe o ilusyon lang ang realidad. Isa yung philosophy. "Simulation hypothesis" ang katumbas nun sa science. Science fiction lang ang simulation hypothesis. Hindi xa scientific.
 
Anong klaseng tanong yan? Anong hindi totoo ang Universe? Earth, Planets, Stars at iba pang nakikita sa kalawakan ay part of Universe 😂 Alam mo bago ka magtatanong about sa pag exist ng Universe pag-aralan mo muna ang Earth. Masyado nang malayo kung Universe na ang pag-uusapan masyadong malawak yun at wala pa tayong sapat na kagamitan; sa ngayon satilites at space telescope lang muna.

Ang point ko is hindi lang religion and meron pang ibang mga bagay na hindi natin napapatunayan na totoo pero naniniwala parin tayu. Ang tanong ko if ang ibang tao hindi naniniwala sa religion kasi katang isip lang ito and walang sapat na evidence, same ba ang gawin natin sa ibang bagay na walang sapat na evidence?
 
Ang point ko is hindi lang religion and meron pang ibang mga bagay na hindi natin napapatunayan na totoo pero naniniwala parin tayu. Ang tanong ko if ang ibang tao hindi naniniwala sa religion kasi katang isip lang ito and walang sapat na evidence, same ba ang gawin natin sa ibang bagay na walang sapat na evidence?
Granting na wala pang "absolute" explanation sa universe at life..

Ano sau ang most likely na explanation ng start ng buhay at universe? And anong reasoning ginamit to arrive at that point?
 
Ang point ko is hindi lang religion and meron pang ibang mga bagay na hindi natin napapatunayan na totoo pero naniniwala parin tayu. Ang tanong ko if ang ibang tao hindi naniniwala sa religion kasi katang isip lang ito and walang sapat na evidence, same ba ang gawin natin sa ibang bagay na walang sapat na evidence?
Explain ko sayo anong pagkakaiba ng hindi kathang isip at kathang isip 😅

Hindi Kathang Isip - Universe (Nakikita natin, Nararamdaman natin, Napapatunayan natin) kaya nabubuhay tayo dito.

Kathang Isip - "GOD" (Nakikita ba natin? Nararamdaman ba natin? Napapatunayan ba natin?) Nasa isip lang natin diba? Yan ang maitatawag na kathang isip... kaya paano ako maniniwala?

Kayong mga theist lang ang "naniniwala sa mga hindi napatunayan pero naniniwala parin kayo" GETS MO?
 
Thats also my point jackfrost, dapat ba hindi din tayu maniwala sa ibang bagay na hindi pa nabigyan ng solid evidence ng mga scientist? Katulad kung paano na create ang universe?
mostly, you wouldn't take a medicine on a random stranger just because he told you it cures cancer. and thats just cancer, its minuscule compared to some theistic claims.
 
Iwan ko ba kung anong nasa isip nya 😅 kino-compare nya yung "walang evidence" sa "hindi pa nabigyan ng solid evidence" 😂 may evidence kung paano nabuo ang universe pero ang "GOD" wala.
 
No. What the scientists gave us are possible answers and we have no way of knowing yet if that's the end of it.
Cosmogony deals with the origin of the universe. All cosmogonical theories and pre-Big Bang models postulate purely naturalistic explanations for the cause of the universe; there are already dozens of them none of which is magical or supernatural. No reputable cosmologists and academic philosophers actually consider god as a plausible candidate (nor even seriously entertain the idea) as god is an obviously man-made fabrication and a merely primitive, pre-scientific projection onto the unknown that is illogical and completely devoid of any scientific substance. The physics and mathematics of the universe's origin are much more elaborate and sophisticated than the religious claiming that "god did it."
 
Cosmogony deals with the origin of the universe. All cosmogonical theories and pre-Big Bang models postulate purely naturalistic explanations for the cause of the universe; there are already dozens of them none of which is magical or supernatural. No reputable cosmologists and academic philosophers actually consider god as a plausible candidate (nor even seriously entertain the idea) as god is an obviously man-made fabrication and a merely primitive, pre-scientific projection onto the unknown that is illogical and completely devoid of any scientific substance. The physics and mathematics of the universe's origin are much more elaborate and sophisticated than the religious claiming that "god did it."

Yes, but is that the end to it? Considering that the universe is vast and we are still discovering "habitable" planets, we still can't say for sure that our theories are 100% accurate. Sure, immediately concluding that "god" did it all is stupid but claiming that the current scientific facts are the absolute truth is equally dumb.

PS. I'm an atheist myself.
 
Yes, but is that the end to it? Considering that the universe is vast and we are still discovering "habitable" planets, we still can't say for sure that our theories are 100% accurate. Sure, immediately concluding that "god" did it all is stupid but claiming that the current scientific facts are the absolute truth is equally dumb.

PS. I'm an atheist myself.
We won't likely ever get to the bottom of unearthing the mysteries of the universe but one thing is for sure: none of the things about the universe primitive people used to attribute and credit god for is real and factual. We now know that God is not the cause of lightning, thunder, earthquakes, plagues and diseases as previously believed. Prayer never works as shown by continuous suffering and evil in religious societies. And virtually all of the bible being proven to be myths and fables with no historical merit and scientific value. It's highly unlikely that this same fictitious being could be the cause of the universe itself.
 
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