🕯️ Traditions Can people of all religions be saved?

[Deleted member 830783]

Did you guys wonder na bakit yung all knowing god creates so many religion to confuse us and created evil at the same time para ma test tayo which is in fact doomed from the start

Edit: his divine plan is doomed from the start

Either he doesn't exist or he's not all knowing

haha natumbok mo po

 

[Jmrie_]

Nasa bible na yung tunay na religion eh ewan ko lang dameng sarado utak na tao
Ang tamaan ng reply ko **** hurt

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Ang tunay na religion ay nakasulat na sa Bible
Isang entity na mismo ang Dios ang nagtayo

Ang ibang relgion ay gawa lang ng kalaban ng Dios na si satanas
Dapat maunawaan ito na may kalaban ang Dios
Kaya hindi nakapagtataka na marami ang mga religion na mali
Ang religion na tinatag ng Dios ay pagawaan ng kabutihan upang ang tao ay magising sa pagkabulag sa mundong ito na nababalot ng kadiliman
Kasi sa mundo ngayon kahit saan ka lumingon ang pinaka common pinaka rampant ay ang
..paggawa ng masama ng mga tao na ang iba ay udyok ng kalaban ng Dios na si satanas
Example nalang ang mga bahay na may lock ang pinto
Bakit mo lalagyan ng lock ang pinto ng bahay mo?
Ikaw na ang makakasagot sa tanong na yan...

 

[Jmrie_]

Nakatayo na nga po yung tunay na religion ang nakakapag taka lang bakit sila nag tatayo ng simbahan

Ang tunay na religion ay nakasulat na sa Bible
Isang entity na mismo ang Dios ang nagtayo

Ang ibang relgion ay gawa lang ng kalaban ng Dios na si satanas
Dapat maunawaan ito na may kalaban ang Dios
Kaya hindi nakapagtataka na marami ang mga religion na mali
Ang religion na tinatag ng Dios ay pagawaan ng kabutihan upang ang tao ay magising sa pagkabulag sa mundong ito na nababalot ng kadiliman
Kasi sa mundo ngayon kahit saan ka lumingon ang pinaka common pinaka rampant ay ang
..paggawa ng masama ng mga tao na ang iba ay udyok ng kalaban ng Dios na si satanas
Example nalang ang mga bahay na may lock ang pinto
Bakit mo lalagyan ng lock ang pinto ng bahay mo?
Ikaw na ang makakasagot sa tanong na yan...

 

[FeedOne1]

Panakot lang to para makontrol tayo ng religion at makapang hikayat ng tao

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Nakatayo na nga po yung tunay na religion ang nakakapag taka lang bakit sila nag tatayo ng simbahan

Alam ko na sa mundong ito na napaka raming religion may isang tunay sa mga yan
Hindi papayag ang lumalang na walang tunay kasi katapusan na ng sangkatauhan kapag nangyari na panay maling religion ay umiral

Bakit nagsusumakit sila na maitayo ang sariling kanila
Dahil sa pakinabang(pera) malakas kasi pagkakitaan ang pagrereligion na isang kaisipan na nagmula kay satanas may mga members din na kung saan ang religion na walang bawal bawal doon sila lahat ng kaplastikan at kapangyarihan impluswensya na makukuha nila doon sila example ng maimpluwensyang religion at iglesia ni manalo
Mga natuto ng kawalanghiyaan ang mga membro nyan handa pumatay para sa pakinabang para sa sugo! XD

 

[Jmrie_]

Alam ko na sa mundong ito na napaka raming religion may isang tunay sa mga yan
Hindi papayag ang lumalang na walang tunay kasi katapusan na ng sangkatauhan kapag nangyari na panay maling religion ay umiral

Bakit nagsusumakit sila na maitayo ang sariling kanila
Dahil sa pakinabang(pera) malakas kasi pagkakitaan ang pagrereligion na isang kaisipan na nagmula kay satanas may mga members din na kung saan ang religion na walang bawal bawal doon sila lahat ng kaplastikan at kapangyarihan impluswensya na makukuha nila doon sila example ng maimpluwensyang religion at iglesia ni manalo
Mga natuto ng kawalanghiyaan ang mga membro nyan handa pumatay para sa pakinabang para sa sugo! XD

Di daw religion makakapag salita hehe pero di nila alam yung tunay kaya nasasabe nila na hinde daw maliligtas ang religion hehe tawa na lang ako

 

[dummy01]

The most stupidest thing I ever read
Knowing what's right and wrong is empathy if you are lacking with that and believes that you only do good for sake of reward then I have a bad news for you

I'll tell you the bad news. YOU are the bad news. Your ignorance is lit. With all due respect, you cannot base what is right and what is wrong based on what you feel. You are dangerous to society, do you know that? People do bad things because they do what they feel is right. A good example is our Justice System. If the judge based his judgement on what he feels is right, then it's just right to s†éál because the he could not provide food for his family (Kawawa naman yung pamilya niyang nagugutom -EMPATHY). Another example, I feel like killing you because I feel you are a danger to society and it is right and good.

I only reacted to why you think my opinion is stupidest. Sorry if my statement offended you and may sound harsh but if you think of it, it's not that stupid, or is it?

 

[Deleted member 830783]

I'll tell you the bad news. YOU are the bad news. Your ignorance is lit. With all due respect, you cannot base what is right and what is wrong based on what you feel. You are dangerous to society, do you know that? People do bad things because they do what they feel is right. A good example is our Justice System. If the judge based his judgement on what he feels is right, then it's just right to s†éál because the he could not provide food for his family (Kawawa naman yung pamilya niyang nagugutom -EMPATHY). Another example, I feel like killing you because I feel you are a danger to society and it is right and good.

I only reacted to why you think my opinion is stupidest. Sorry if my statement offended you and may sound harsh but if you think of it, it's not that stupid, or is it?

no, empathy po is like putting yourself into other's shoes. even without religion you can tell naman if a thing is wrong or right naman based sa empathy mo --- ayaw mong gawin ang sa tingin mo ayaw mo ding gawin sa iyo at gagawin mo ang sa tingin mo gusto mong gawin din sayo...that's empathy.

 

[dummy01]

no, empathy po is like putting yourself into other's shoes. even without religion you can tell naman if a thing is wrong or right naman based sa empathy mo --- ayaw mong gawin ang sa tingin mo ayaw mo ding gawin sa iyo at gagawin mo ang sa tingin mo gusto mong gawin din sayo...that's empathy.

I have a good example about that. There is a woman battered everyday by his husband. She asked for help to the authorities but no one believed her. She killed him by poisoining his drink. If I put myself onto this woman, it's right to kill that person. I empathized to the woman, and majority might think the husband deserved it and it is the right thing to do. So what is the woman now? She is now a MURDERER and most people empathised that this woman is right. Do you now see the danger of basing the right thing to do on what you feel is right?

Oh you probably want to ask why the husband hurt her. The woman commits adultery, because the husband does not pay attention to her. Her husband is suffering from stress due to working so many hours to provide security to the family that's why he hardly manage to pay attention to her.

What do you feel now is right? put yourself to husband's shoe this time?

 

[God Rules]

tama ka gusto ko lang ng ganitong mga topic kasi wala ako masyadong alam sa ganito gusto ko making at matutu haha
anu religion mo sir?hehe

amen boss pareho tayo ng gusto matuto

 

[God Rules]

Maniwala lang ang sumunod sa utos ng diyos at gumawa ng bagay na nakakabuti lamang siguradong maliligtas kayo hehe ☺

nakakabuti sa mata ng diyos o sa tao? tulad ng same *** marriage nakaka buti ito sa tao upang maging fair ang bawat tao sa mata ng diyos malaking kasalanan ito

 

[m9soymax]

I have a good example about that. There is a woman battered everyday by his husband. She asked for help to the authorities but no one believed her. She killed him by poisoining his drink. If I put myself onto this woman, it's right to kill that person. I empathized to the woman, and majority might think the husband deserved it and it is the right thing to do. So what is the woman now? She is now a MURDERER and most people empathised that this woman is right. Do you now see the danger of basing the right thing to do on what you feel is right?

Oh you probably want to ask why the husband hurt her. The woman commits adultery, because the husband does not pay attention to her. Her husband is suffering from stress due to working so many hours to provide security to the family that's why he hardly manage to pay attention to her.

What do you feel now is right? put yourself to husband's shoe this time?

poor argument ever heard of this happened? nope when a domestic abuse is involve authorities will respond immediately if it was reported
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and you said earlier that our laws are based on bible but I don't see slavery is legal, even raping

 

[dummy01]

poor argument ever heard of this happened? nope when a domestic abuse is involve authorities will respond immediately if it was reported
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and you said earlier that our laws are based on bible but I don't see slavery is legal, even raping

Have you heard of the Ten Commandments? But I respect your point of view, I just don't accept it. About the domestic violence story, I dont have any article to show you. But at least it may be able you to think the possibility of that from happening. Where would you stand if that happens?

 

[m9soymax]

Have you heard of the Ten Commandments? But I respect your point of view, I just don't accept it. About the domestic violence story, I dont have any article to show you. But at least it may be able you to think the possibility of that from happening. Where would you stand if that happens?

I stand with the cops that she will be convicted for murder because no matter where you look at it there's no way you will murder a person with that at least filing a law suit will give you a lot of benefits (lots money from compensation)

Yes I heard about ten commandments and nope everything in the bible must be followed says here "Matthew 5:18-19 RSV, Luke 16:17 NAB, Matthew 5:17 NAB, 2 Timothy 3:16 NAB, 2 Peter 20-21 NAB" and there's a lot more

Murder in bible:
Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests (lol dapat pakinggan si father sa mga sermon nya)
Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT

Kill Fortunetellers (ang hilig ng mga pinoy dito)
Leviticus 20:27 NAB

Death for Cursing Parents
Proverbs 20:20 NAB and Leviticus 20:9 NLT

dami panga ayokona e lagay lahat search in your own nalang

 

[dummy01]

I stand with the cops that she will be convicted for murder because no matter where you look at it there's no way you will murder a person with that at least filing a law suit will give you a lot of benefits (lots money from compensation)

Yes I heard about ten commandments and nope everything in the bible must be followed says here "Matthew 5:18-19 RSV, Luke 16:17 NAB, Matthew 5:17 NAB, 2 Timothy 3:16 NAB, 2 Peter 20-21 NAB" and there's a lot more

Murder in bible:
Kill People Who Don’t Listen to Priests (lol dapat pakinggan si father sa mga sermon nya)
Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT

Kill Fortunetellers (ang hilig ng mga pinoy dito)
Leviticus 20:27 NAB

Death for Cursing Parents
Proverbs 20:20 NAB and Leviticus 20:9 NLT

dami panga ayokona e lagay lahat search in your own nalang

I will not criticize you from who you stand in the domestic violence story. Although your answer is so far from the point I want to make. I understand. It doesn't matter to me, and I know, my point doesn't matter to you.

I appreciate you quoting some bible verses. I guess bad people see only bad things.

In conclusion, humans are evil by nature and religion saves us to be good and to do good. Every theist person know God condems evil act. I don't know any sane person today who will agree of killing a fortune teller because he/she is a fortune teller, a cursing parent, or doesn't listen to priest is okay and acceptable. I'm grateful and fortunate that I have the moral values from my religion after reading your statements. You made me realize that religion is indeed important. Thank you.

 

[Kaiztakaw]

ayun! gabay ang relihiyon at nasa tao kung susundin. so FACTOR nga sya. sinagot mo na rin.

Never ko namang sinabi na hindi factor yun.. I am just saying all the bad things people do
it is because of themselves we cannot blame it sa religion lng... I am saying maraming favtors din ang involve including your environment, your past, politicaly emotionaly etc...at oo gabay siya..hindi sa kasamaan kundi sa kabutihan..

 

[Marko2b]

Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. Jesus Christ

 

[m9soymax]

I will not criticize you from who you stand in the domestic violence story. Although your answer is so far from the point I want to make. I understand. It doesn't matter to me, and I know, my point doesn't matter to you.

I appreciate you quoting some bible verses. I guess bad people see only bad things.

In conclusion, humans are evil by nature and religion saves us to be good and to do good. Every theist person know God condems evil act. I don't know any sane person today who will agree of killing a fortune teller because he/she is a fortune teller, a cursing parent, or doesn't listen to priest is okay and acceptable. I'm grateful and fortunate that I have the moral values from my religion after reading your statements. You made me realize that religion is indeed important. Thank you.

I gave you the best possible answer i guess you wanted a scenario that she will kill her husband which is not happening in real life filling a law suit is more civilized approach.
No if you read your bible you'll realize something is wrong with this book it's full of contradictions I can give you a lot of examples of it if you want. Yes people are bad in nature (see Marina Abramovic's work) but thanks to religion they were encouraged to do more bad things (killings in the name of religion). Again if you read the bible you'll notice that god is not that forgiving person if you don't believe me start reading now because I already done that thanks to our bible class every sunday btw that's my point your own moral sense made you realize that what's written in your holy book is wrong

Edit: The only reason that christians is not so violent now compare to the past is because secular movements keep them in check in our society today

 

[Deleted member 830783]

I have a good example about that. There is a woman battered everyday by his husband. She asked for help to the authorities but no one believed her. She killed him by poisoining his drink. If I put myself onto this woman, it's right to kill that person. I empathized to the woman, and majority might think the husband deserved it and it is the right thing to do. So what is the woman now? She is now a MURDERER and most people empathised that this woman is right. Do you now see the danger of basing the right thing to do on what you feel is right?

Oh you probably want to ask why the husband hurt her. The woman commits adultery, because the husband does not pay attention to her. Her husband is suffering from stress due to working so many hours to provide security to the family that's why he hardly manage to pay attention to her.

What do you feel now is right? put yourself to husband's shoe this time?

you have a very big misconception of the word. that's sympathy not empathy. you understand her situation pero I dont think you will do the same thing she have done...kasi you have your own way of dealing things I guess. or papatay ka din kasi ganung ganun talaga nafeel mo??? oh my!