🕯️ Traditions Can people of all religions be saved?

[Kelpa12]

Jehova? well It is same word with God, Lord Yeweh...etc...

God lord iba.... for example... tatay, nanay, etc... pero pag name spcific

 

[OuTbOxX]

hindi lahat maliligtas ......

 

[blu09030]

John 1:12

Ang Salvation Po Binagay ng Panginoon Nasa tao ang Choice Kung Tanggapin Nya o Hindi. .

Namuhay Ayun Sa Kanyang Kalooban.
Dahil Di Po Ang Lahat Na tatawag Sa Panginoon Ay Maliligtas.
Matthew 7:21

 

[k4rm4]

Walang maliligtas kung gumunaw man ang mundo sa panahon ngayon. Kahit yung pinaka relihiyosong tao. Kapag patay ka na hanggang dun ka nalang. Kaya nga daw always live your life to the fullest na walang naaapakan na tao. Isa lang ang buhay natin.

 

[PHC-Rose Blink]

Walang maliligtas kung gumunaw man ang mundo sa panahon ngayon. Kahit yung pinaka relihiyosong tao. Kapag patay ka na hanggang dun ka nalang. Kaya nga daw always live your life to the fullest na walang naaapakan na tao. Isa lang ang buhay natin.

tama haha.. you only live once.. kung magunaw man ang earth..may pag asa pa kung paghahandaan natin pwede pa tayong mag evacuate sa mars or planet nebula at astronaut na lang cguro matitira haha

 

[k4rm4]

tama haha.. you only live once.. kung magunaw man ang earth..may pag asa pa kung paghahandaan natin pwede pa tayong mag evacuate sa mars or planet nebula at astronaut na lang cguro matitira haha

Nakakatawa mang isipin pero yan lang talaga solusyon. Kaya nating pabagalan pagkasira ng mundo pero hindi natin mapipigilan.

 

[devinenova]

you can't be saved because of what your religion is. You can only be saved of how strong your connection to Jesus and or to God or to Mother Mary.

 

[azaziel]

Maganda lang basahin kasi english.
Kung sana wala ako alam sa bible pabor ako dito kasi wala ako gagawin. Mabubuhay nalang ako na walang bakod na utos ng Diyos. Madaling ito tanggapin ng tao kasi effortless para maligtas at pabor sa lahat. Wala ka matatapakan na tao at paniniwala. Christians and muslim ay sobrang magkaiba. Chirstians si God ang Diyos.
Muslims naman ay si Allah.
Papayag kaya yung muslim pag nabasa to. Syempre hindi. Sasabihin nila "si Allah magliligtas samin at hindi yung Dyos nyu mga kristiano." kung may kataposan ng mundo sa sakanila. Ang point ko is "Open your mind before your mouth"
Pa john lennon pa yung iba. Ano ba tingin nyu kay john lennon? Sino ba sya? Hahaha. "Apostle? Saint?" Hahaha. Make sense hindi porket idol ng tatay nyu o idol nyu ihh maniniwala na kayo kung ano sabihin nya. Mas papabor kasi yung mga tamad at makasalanan na tao. Kasi hindi nila kailangan magbagong buhay.
Sorry kung may nasaktan o natamaan specially kay t.s .
Christians din daw po ang mga chatholic..
Palagay ko lang naman to. Wag magalit hahaha.

Catholics are indeed Christians because to be able to qualify as one, you believe in everything about Jesus Christ.

 

[azaziel]

Pope Francis says it too. Everyone can be saved regardless of religion. It struck me how open-minded the current Pope is.

 

[m9soymax]

Naging athiest ka dahil mayroon ka hindi naunawaan sa salita ng Dios sa Bible?

Eh pano pala yong creation lahat ng mga nakikita ng mga mata mo
Hindi paba pruweba yan na may isang intilehenting nagdisensyo sa mga yan na tinatawag sa Bible na Dios?

Napakahina ng pangunawa at lohika ng mga athiest na ito
Pantas sa kanilang sariling mga mata tsk tsk tsk nakakaawa

Evidence na god made this universe theist never proven this claim the burden of proof lies on theist on this one
Nakakatawa lng sa mga theist is pag maganda yung message sa bible they literally accept as fact pag meron nang mga involve na ridiculous claims like killing the non believers ginagamit nilang excuse ay metaphor daw ano yan cherry picking

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Evidence na god made this universe theist never proven this claim the burden of proof lies on theist on this one
Nakakatawa lng sa mga theist is pag maganda yung message sa bible they literally accept as fact pag meron nang mga involve na ridiculous claims like killing the non believers ginagamit nilang excuse ay metaphor daw ano yan cherry picking

Ang tingin namin sa mga patayan na nangyari sa Bible ay babala para sa atin upang huwag natin tularan
At isa pa accurate ang sinasabi ng Bible tungkol sa creation at ang nakikita natin sa mundo
Katulad ng nakasulat sa genesis
Ang creation na tama sakto ang pagkakasunod sunond ng chronology ng mga bagay
Like sabi sa Bible na una nagkaroon ng mga liwanag o bituin kaysa sa pagkakaroon ng mundo na totoo naman talaga sa science
Nauna ang mga liwanag o bituin kaysa sa earth
Totoo rin na may tubig sa ibabaw sabi sa genesis na hndi bat ang mga ulap na sinasabi sa science totoo din ang sabi sa Bible na mapupugnaw ang lahat ng bagay sa matinding init pagdatin ng panahon na iyay may paliwanag sa science na kung tawagin ay nuclear fision ang pag expand ng araw na magiging red dwarf star na syang lalamon sa mundo at mga planeta
Sinabi rin sa bible na ang mundo ay nakalutang sa kawalan na kailan lang nakita ng mga astronomers na totoo nga sinabi ng Bible
Totoo din ang naunang sinabi sa Bible na ang mundo ay bilog napatunayan ito ni magellan
At napaka totoo din ang sinabi sa Bible na an unang tao na si adam ay nilikha mula sa alaboj ng lupa ,ayon sa science ang composistion ng tao at mula sa lupa lahat marami pang bagay sa Bible na nauna ng sinabi sa Bible na ngayon lamang natuktuklasan ng science at hindi maitatangi ng mga nakatuklas ang katotohanang sinasabi sa Bible

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Evidence na god made this universe theist never proven this claim the burden of proof lies on theist on this one
Nakakatawa lng sa mga theist is pag maganda yung message sa bible they literally accept as fact pag meron nang mga involve na ridiculous claims like killing the non believers ginagamit nilang excuse ay metaphor daw ano yan cherry picking

Ang kukunin mo sa Bible ang turo o aral
Kung may nababasa mang patayan yan ay aral din at babala

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Ang tingin namin sa mga patayan na nangyari sa Bible ay babala para sa atin upang huwag natin tularan
At isa pa accurate ang sinasabi ng Bible tungkol sa creation at ang nakikita natin sa mundo
Katulad ng nakasulat sa genesis
Ang creation na tama sakto ang pagkakasunod sunond ng chronology ng mga bagay
Like sabi sa Bible na una nagkaroon ng mga liwanag o bituin kaysa sa pagkakaroon ng mundo na totoo naman talaga sa science
Nauna ang mga liwanag o bituin kaysa sa earth
Totoo rin na may tubig sa ibabaw sabi sa genesis na hndi bat ang mga ulap na sinasabi sa science totoo din ang sabi sa Bible na mapupugnaw ang lahat ng bagay sa matinding init pagdatin ng panahon na iyay may paliwanag sa science na kung tawagin ay nuclear fision ang pag expand ng araw na magiging red dwarf star na syang lalamon sa mundo at mga planeta
Sinabi rin sa bible na ang mundo ay nakalutang sa kawalan na kailan lang nakita ng mga astronomers na totoo nga sinabi ng Bible
Totoo din ang naunang sinabi sa Bible na ang mundo ay bilog napatunayan ito ni magellan
At napaka totoo din ang sinabi sa Bible na an unang tao na si adam ay nilikha mula sa alaboj ng lupa ,ayon sa science ang composistion ng tao at mula sa lupa lahat marami pang bagay sa Bible na nauna ng sinabi sa Bible na ngayon lamang natuktuklasan ng science at hindi maitatangi ng mga nakatuklas ang katotohanang sinasabi sa Bible

Kaya lang napaka sarado ng utak mo upang isipin kaagad na masama ang nakasulat sa Bible na kami ay nachcherry picking,aware kami sa mga nababasa namin sa Bible may masama at mabuti pero para sa amin ay babala ang mga yan ikaw lang naman nagiisip ng iba kasi matalino ka sa iyong sariling mga mata ay mo na tumanggap ng mga turo

Para kang baso na puno na ng tubig na kapag nilagyan pa ng tubig ay natatapon lang dahil nga puno na ng laman

Subukan mong itapon ang laman niyan at tanggapin mo ang ilalaman na bago

 

[m9soymax]

Ang kukunin mo sa Bible ang turo o aral
Kung may nababasa mang patayan yan ay aral din at babala

Anong babala na binigyan nga ng go signal
Read:
(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
(Exodus 22:17 NAB)
(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
Btw ang dami pa nyan yan lng muna para a little example ng killings, at killings palang covered ko di pa yung human sacrifice, rape, incest, jesus lied and much more

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Anong babala na binigyan nga ng go signal
Read:
(Deuteronomy 17:12 NLT)
(Exodus 22:17 NAB)
(Leviticus 20:27 NAB)
(Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
Btw ang dami pa nyan yan lng muna para a little example ng killings, at killings palang covered ko di pa yung human sacrifice, rape, incest, jesus lied and much more

Mga verses na di mo naunawaan at di binasa ang contexto
Dumiresto ka kagad dyan di mo muna binasa ang pinamulan

 

[m9soymax]

Ang tingin namin sa mga patayan na nangyari sa Bible ay babala para sa atin upang huwag natin tularan
At isa pa accurate ang sinasabi ng Bible tungkol sa creation at ang nakikita natin sa mundo
Katulad ng nakasulat sa genesis
Ang creation na tama sakto ang pagkakasunod sunond ng chronology ng mga bagay
Like sabi sa Bible na una nagkaroon ng mga liwanag o bituin kaysa sa pagkakaroon ng mundo na totoo naman talaga sa science
Nauna ang mga liwanag o bituin kaysa sa earth
Totoo rin na may tubig sa ibabaw sabi sa genesis na hndi bat ang mga ulap na sinasabi sa science totoo din ang sabi sa Bible na mapupugnaw ang lahat ng bagay sa matinding init pagdatin ng panahon na iyay may paliwanag sa science na kung tawagin ay nuclear fision ang pag expand ng araw na magiging red dwarf star na syang lalamon sa mundo at mga planeta
Sinabi rin sa bible na ang mundo ay nakalutang sa kawalan na kailan lang nakita ng mga astronomers na totoo nga sinabi ng Bible
Totoo din ang naunang sinabi sa Bible na ang mundo ay bilog napatunayan ito ni magellan
At napaka totoo din ang sinabi sa Bible na an unang tao na si adam ay nilikha mula sa alaboj ng lupa ,ayon sa science ang composistion ng tao at mula sa lupa lahat marami pang bagay sa Bible na nauna ng sinabi sa Bible na ngayon lamang natuktuklasan ng science at hindi maitatangi ng mga nakatuklas ang katotohanang sinasabi sa Bible

Huh?
Firmament
The "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now." is claimed to be a solid "roof" over the world.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. It is described in You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. (KJV). This is obviously untrue, unless all those satellites in orbit are a hoax. Considering the views of You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., someone, somewhere probably thinks this is true.

However, an explanation offered by inerrantists is that the description of the firmament is only what was believed to be true and not necessarily stating that it is literally true.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

Illumination
In Genesis, the moon is referred to as a "light" ("lesser light" actually). The moon is merely a reflector of the sun's light, and produces no visible light, although it does shine in different wavelengths not perceivable to the human eye, such as the infrareds. Of course, when talking to tribal nomads and other desert-dwellers, the concept of referring to the moon as a light was commonplace. Additionally, the moon was made to "rule the night", but there seems to be no explanation for why the moon is visible frequently throughout the daytime or not even visible in some nights.

Stars
The Bible makes it clear that stars are tiny objects in the sky that will fall down when Jesus comes back:

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And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
However, other verses in the book of Revelation clearly use "stars" in a figurative sense (for example, see You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.), so it is possible that the writer did not intend to make a statement about literal celestial bodies in 8:10 either. Indeed, given the highly allegorical and symbolic nature of You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in general, any literal understanding of Revelation is generally ill-advised until taking into consideration the idea that this is supposedly divine inspiration to which laws, societies and lives are proposed to be based upon.

Planetary formation
According to the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. was formed before the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Aside from bio-mechanical problems, this flatly contradicts the nebular You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. of stellar formation, in which You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. form in the accretion disk created by a young star.

It should be noted, however, that when the Sun, moon, and stars are introduced in Genesis 1:16, they are said to be "made", which, in the original You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., is different from the word "create" used in Genesis 1:1. If this is the case, then it could be argued that the Sun and moon were created in 1:1 as part of the collective "heavens" (compare, for example, the summary given in Genesis 2:4), and only in Genesis 1:16 (day 4 in the creative period) are they fully visible from Earth's surface.

The creation of the sun, moon, and stars on day four is meant to be a theological point, rather than a scientific one. As other cultures worshiped the sun and moon and divined by the stars (astrology), the Hebrew authors are making the point that none of them is the source of the light, but rather merely reflectors of the light (as lamps) whose ultimate origin is in their God. The creation myth also uses poetic parallelism to narrate the story: Day 1 and Day 4 are paired (light; sun, moon, stars), Day 2 and Day 5 (seas and dry land; fish and fowl), Day 3 and Day 6 (plants of the earth; beasts of the earth and humanity). Furthermore, given the similarity of this narrative to the creation myth of the Babylonians, whose god Marduk creates the cosmos by slaying his sea-serpent mother Tiamat, the Hebrew presentation of God creating over the deep (Hebrew: "tehom") by means other than violence and declaring the creation to be "good" is a rebuke to the Babylonian myth. The abundance of literary and theological devices in the narrative make it clear that the text is not attempting to be a scientific account of the origin of the world, but a theological declaration of the goodness of the creation as against competing religious systems (Canaanite, Babylonian, etc.).

 

[m9soymax]

Mga verses na di mo naunawaan at di binasa ang contexto
Dumiresto ka kagad dyan di mo muna binasa ang pinamulan

Verse taken out of context

This is probably the more common excuse used to try and explain away an error or a contradiction. Christians claim that in order to get the full meaning of the verse, it must be left in context; that you have to read the whole chapter to understand what is being said. This comes from the same people that throw verse after verse at you to try and support their argument about why their religion is right. If they feel that a particular verse seems pretty straight forward, they have no problem with taking it out of context and throwing it in your face.

 

[kimbeth]

Tsk! Tsk! Tsk! Hindi porke maganda pagka mo english tama ka na..madami ka ililigaw na mga tao sa kamangmangan mo sa biblia..kaya ko syo patunuyan na me Religion na tinuturo ang Dios para maligtas..na dapat aniban ng lahat ng tao..ilabas mo ang basehan mo na tama yang mga pinagsasabi mo...wala yan sa ganda ng english

 

[Deleted member 830783]

Verse taken out of context

This is probably the more common excuse used to try and explain away an error or a contradiction. Christians claim that in order to get the full meaning of the verse, it must be left in context; that you have to read the whole chapter to understand what is being said. This comes from the same people that throw verse after verse at you to try and support their argument about why their religion is right. If they feel that a particular verse seems pretty straight forward, they have no problem with taking it out of context and throwing it in your face.

hahaha and I was expecting the same old lame excuse nga

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Huh?
Firmament
The "You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now." is claimed to be a solid "roof" over the world.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. It is described in You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. (KJV). This is obviously untrue, unless all those satellites in orbit are a hoax. Considering the views of You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., someone, somewhere probably thinks this is true.

However, an explanation offered by inerrantists is that the description of the firmament is only what was believed to be true and not necessarily stating that it is literally true.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

Illumination
In Genesis, the moon is referred to as a "light" ("lesser light" actually). The moon is merely a reflector of the sun's light, and produces no visible light, although it does shine in different wavelengths not perceivable to the human eye, such as the infrareds. Of course, when talking to tribal nomads and other desert-dwellers, the concept of referring to the moon as a light was commonplace. Additionally, the moon was made to "rule the night", but there seems to be no explanation for why the moon is visible frequently throughout the daytime or not even visible in some nights.

Stars
The Bible makes it clear that stars are tiny objects in the sky that will fall down when Jesus comes back:

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.
And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
However, other verses in the book of Revelation clearly use "stars" in a figurative sense (for example, see You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. and You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.), so it is possible that the writer did not intend to make a statement about literal celestial bodies in 8:10 either. Indeed, given the highly allegorical and symbolic nature of You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. in general, any literal understanding of Revelation is generally ill-advised until taking into consideration the idea that this is supposedly divine inspiration to which laws, societies and lives are proposed to be based upon.

Planetary formation
According to the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. was formed before the You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.. Aside from bio-mechanical problems, this flatly contradicts the nebular You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. of stellar formation, in which You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. form in the accretion disk created by a young star.

It should be noted, however, that when the Sun, moon, and stars are introduced in Genesis 1:16, they are said to be "made", which, in the original You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., is different from the word "create" used in Genesis 1:1. If this is the case, then it could be argued that the Sun and moon were created in 1:1 as part of the collective "heavens" (compare, for example, the summary given in Genesis 2:4), and only in Genesis 1:16 (day 4 in the creative period) are they fully visible from Earth's surface.

The creation of the sun, moon, and stars on day four is meant to be a theological point, rather than a scientific one. As other cultures worshiped the sun and moon and divined by the stars (astrology), the Hebrew authors are making the point that none of them is the source of the light, but rather merely reflectors of the light (as lamps) whose ultimate origin is in their God. The creation myth also uses poetic parallelism to narrate the story: Day 1 and Day 4 are paired (light; sun, moon, stars), Day 2 and Day 5 (seas and dry land; fish and fowl), Day 3 and Day 6 (plants of the earth; beasts of the earth and humanity). Furthermore, given the similarity of this narrative to the creation myth of the Babylonians, whose god Marduk creates the cosmos by slaying his sea-serpent mother Tiamat, the Hebrew presentation of God creating over the deep (Hebrew: "tehom") by means other than violence and declaring the creation to be "good" is a rebuke to the Babylonian myth. The abundance of literary and theological devices in the narrative make it clear that the text is not attempting to be a scientific account of the origin of the world, but a theological declaration of the goodness of the creation as against competing religious systems (Canaanite, Babylonian, etc.).

Hay naku di nakakaunawa pinagrumble.rumble.mo pa .mga.verses