🔒 Closed Sa mga DDS dyan, ano masasabi nyo sa di pagbibigay nang SALN ni Duterte at health Documents?

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1. interview with Willie Revillame about Pia Ranada’s article na nang hijack umano siya ng airtime ni Harry Roque to flaunt his donations ngayong panahon ng Covid.

what really happened? Klinaro ni Mr, Revillame na di siya nang hijack because he was invited to join kasi nga magpapasalamat din sila ky Mr. Revillame dahil pina gamit sila ng studio.

“Kaya kayo naakusahan ngpapakalat ng fake news eh” stated by Mr. Revillame himself.

kung di nio pa din ma gets kung san ang fake news dun ewan ko na lang sa inyo.

2. Interview ng Hard Talk (BBC) ky Maria Ressa, yes BBC. The shoot ‘em dead statement, again, kung mg sasabi ka ng isang phrase lang and not the whole context or atleast a pharagraph of what was really said, it changes the whole meaning of the statement. Ano resulta? instead of relaying a what was really said you instead send a false meaning which resulted to a fake news being delivered. Kung sasabihin niong di credible dahil youtube ang vid, search nio kung ano ang BBC at kung sino si Stephen Sackur. Napag hahalata pagiging ignorante.

dagdag ko lang din, diba nga may apart from cyber libel may tax evasion case pa siya?Fraud meron din..balikan ko lang yung sinabi ko sa taas, kahit gano kagalit sayo ang presidente kung wala kang bahong tinatago di ka makakasuhan pag walang probable cause, the mere fact na may kaso ibig sabihin may baho..yes baka sumunod ang rappler sa ABS, pero di lang dahil galit si PDUTS sa kanila kundi dahil di malinis yang pinagtatanggol niong Rappler.

3. 2018 pa yung article?bakit kung 2018 pa di na valid? 2020 na pero yung fake news image ng rappler andiyan pa din. Hahaha
 
"what really happened? Klinaro ni Mr, Revillame na di siya nang hijack because he was invited to join kasi nga magpapasalamat din sila ky Mr. Revillame dahil pina gamit sila ng studio.

“Kaya kayo naakusahan ngpapakalat ng fake news eh” stated by Mr. Revillame himself.

kung di nio pa din ma gets kung san ang fake news dun ewan ko na lang sa inyo."

Eto yung thread mo no? Sobrang fixated ka kay Willie Reviliame, sabihin na natin na nagkamali, pero isang article? Well, kung ganun pala peke lahat ng ano, kahit anong news outlet pa yan, walang perpekto na news outlet, kahit ano pa yan. Kung ganun, lahat ng outlet fake news.

"2. Interview ng Hard Talk (BBC) ky Maria Ressa, yes BBC. The shoot ‘em dead statement, again, kung mg sasabi ka ng isang phrase lang and not the whole context or atleast a pharagraph of what was really said, it changes the whole meaning of the statement. Ano resulta? instead of relaying a what was really said you instead send a false meaning which resulted to a fake news being delivered. Kung sasabihin niong di credible dahil YôùTùbé ang vid, search nio kung ano ang BBC at kung sino si Stephen Sackur. Napag hahalata pagiging ignorante"

Clarify, wala akong sinabi na di legit yung interview. Si Duterte nagsabi na patayin kapag nagcause nang trouble, sobrang laki ng meaning nyan, ano yung trouble?

“My orders to the police and military ... if there is trouble and there’s an occasion that they fight back and your lives are in danger, shoot them dead.”

Sobrang vulgar ng term, maraming meaning ang pede makuha sa ganyan, presidente tapos di maingat sa sinasabi, isang maling pagkaintindi lang wala na, pedeng protesta, pedeng naglalakad lang sa tabi, kaya kita mo ang may mga namatay na mga tao nung natuloy yan, naalala mo yung may PTSD na sundalo? Isang malaking joke. Sobrang lawak ng term na yan at sobrang laking kapangyarihan na ibinigay para sa pulis.


"dagdag ko lang din, diba nga may apart from cyber libel may tax evasion case pa siya?Fraud meron din..balikan ko lang yung sinabi ko sa taas, kahit gano kagalit sayo ang presidente kung wala kang bahong tinatago di ka makakasuhan pag walang probable cause, the mere fact na may kaso ibig sabihin may baho..yes baka sumunod ang rappler sa ABS, pero di lang dahil galit si PDUTS sa kanila kundi dahil di malinis yang pinagtatanggol niong Rappler"

Shit argument, so malinis yung China? Ayaw nya ilabas yung baho eh

"3. 2018 pa yung article?bakit kung 2018 pa di na valid? 2020 na pero yung fake news image ng rappler andiyan pa din. Hahaha"

Sinabi ko lang na 2018, outdated, tsaka sa 2018 inaano palang nila yung FB, 2019 palang yata fact checker na yung Rappler
 
Kahit gano pa kahaba rason mo para sa kanila,
Umamin din sila, na may mali dun sa article na yun,
Kaya usapang fake news/misinformation, umamin na sila.

Kung usapang legal kahit di namn legality tinutukoy ko,
natalo parin sila kasi convicted si Ressa 🤣

dinadamay mo pa fb, bias rin naman yan, lalo na nung nagkaroon, relevant comments filter. kung ano ano na sinasabi mo.
 
//Kahit gano pa kahaba rason mo para sa kanila, Umamin din sila, na may mali dun sa article na yun, Kaya usapang fake news/misinformation, umamin na sila.//

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//Kung usapang legal kahit di namn legality tinutukoy ko//

-So ano tinutukoy mo?🧐 Diba tinutukoy mo na fake news yung rappler?🤔

//natalo parin sila kasi convicted si Ressa//

-Basahin mo yung una kong sinabi

//dinadamay mo pa fb, bias rin naman yan, lalo na nung nagkaroon, relevant comments filter. kung ano ano na sinasabi mo.//

-sa tingin ko si apshyxia tinutukoy mo
 
Fake news/Misinformation:
Wala na paguusapan dito kasi alam mismo rappler na fake news yung article.

Cybercrime law:
May tiwala naman ako sa desisyon ng korte. Marami rin abogado si ressa, pero mukang convicted talaga.

sa fake news palang di niyo na matanggap. sa desisyon pa kaya ng korte.

Yung mocha blog nga di na tayo sigurado kung lagi tama napopost,
Parang rappler lang rin yun.
dagdag lang sa rappler eh sila makukulong/nakulong na.
 
You are suppose to deliver the news as it is, walang dagdag walang bawas. Wag na tayong lumayo na kexo ganito magsalita kexo ganyan. Ano ba ang mismong sinabi at ano lang ang inirelay nila?ganun lang..:sneaky: hindi masamang i exagerate ang news or kahit ang headline(normal na gawain yan ng any news oulets), ang masama yung iibahin mo ang mismong context resulting to delivering an entirely different meaning.Nung una nag hahanap ka ng kahit isa lang, ngayon binigyan ka ng dalawa sasabihin mo normal lang magkamali..hahaha.. Last time I checked hindi inacknowledge ng rappler ang “mistake” kuno dun sa Revillame issue..so until now they are standing by their report na inamin mo namang mali.

nag banggit ka na naman ng ibang topic, China na naman ba pag uusapan natin?hahahahahahahah
 
[XX='smaug152, c: 330965, m: 1650808'][/XX] "Wag na tayong lumayo na kexo ganito magsalita kexo ganyan. Ano ba ang mismong sinabi at ano lang ang inirelay nila?ganun lang..:sneaky: hindi masamang i exagerate ang news or kahit ang headline(normal na gawain yan ng any news oulets), ang masama yung iibahin mo ang mismong context resulting to delivering an entirely different meaning."

Di ako lumayo, inisip ko lang yung context, sobrang vague nang sinabi ni Duterte, Smaug kahit anong paikot mo, ang daming meaning nung sinabi ni Duterte, na pati yung mga pulis nya mismo nabigyan nang kapangyarihan pumatay sa mere suspicion. Pulis nga mismo namisinterpret, media pa kaya?

"Nung una nag hahanap ka ng kahit isa lang, ngayon binigyan ka ng dalawa sasabihin mo normal lang magkamali..hahaha.. Last time I checked hindi inacknowledge ng rappler ang “mistake” kuno dun sa Revillame issue..so until now they are standing by their report na inamin mo namang mali."

Since sobrang fixated ka sa ano na yan, irebut ko na tapos na, iba-iba ang meaning ng Hijack, maraming meaning yun, merong maganda merong panget, depende sa context

take over (something) and use it for a different purpose. (Third meaning sa Oxford dictionary ng hijack)

Mali ang naisip ni Willie, kala nya sa masama lang nagagamit yung hijack.

"nag banggit ka na naman ng ibang topic, China na naman ba pag uusapan natin?hahahahahahahah"

Pinoint out ko lang, kung ganun...🤣
 
Pero di ko sinisisi si Willie, ok lang na ganun talaga yung isipin nya, di nya kasalanan yun, kasalanan ng Rappler na gumamit sila ng baity na title (Kahit tama parin context wise.)
 
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//Fake news/Misinformation:
Wala na paguusapan dito kasi alam mismo rappler na fake news yung article.//

Na ex post facto. Too bad walang ex post facto law

//Cybercrime law:
May tiwala naman ako sa desisyon ng korte. Marami rin abogado si ressa, pero mukang convicted talaga.//

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//sa fake news palang di niyo na matanggap. sa desisyon pa kaya ng korte.//

Ano nga ulit rason bat naging fake news ang rappler? At pagdebatihan natin kung ano yung rason nayon. Kung cyberlibel libre naman magbasa ng previous reply ko, kung tax evasion Not Guilty si ressa. Fraud naman not guilty.

//Yung mocha blog nga di na tayo sigurado kung lagi tama napopost//

Mali lagi post non. Puro propaganda

//Parang rappler lang rin yun.//

Rappler: News Company
Mocha Uson Blog: Personal Page

//dagdag lang sa rappler eh sila makukulong/nakulong na.//

sa sobrang daming hinain na kaso kay ressa isa lang guilty kaso îllégâl pa dahil ex post facto yung issue. At alam naman natin nq bawal magpasa ng ex post facto law (basahin mo sa bill of rights section 22)
 
" Di ako lumayo, inisip ko lang yung context, sobrang vague nang sinabi ni Duterte, Smaug kahit anong paikot mo, ang daming meaning nung sinabi ni Duterte, na pati yung mga pulis nya mismo nabigyan nang kapangyarihan pumatay sa mere suspicion. Pulis nga mismo namisinterpret, media pa kaya? "

"Since sobrang fixated ka sa ano na yan, irebut ko na tapos na, iba-iba ang meaning ng Hijack, maraming meaning yun, merong maganda merong panget, depende sa context

take over (something) and use it for a different purpose. (Third meaning sa Oxford dictionary ng hijack)

Mali ang naisip ni Willie, kala nya sa masama lang nagagamit yung hijack."


yan ang mali, kasi sa statement mo pa lang inamin na din na nagiging subjective sila sa news kasi naka depende sa understanding nila ng statement(assuming na talagang iba lang ang understading nila which I think very unlikely). Whereas ang goal ng journalist dapat is to be OBJECTIVE. Duty nila yan, again, paulit2x tayo, i relay kung ano mismo ang sinabi at hayaan ang mga readers mag interpret. Di mo kailangan mamroblema kung gano ka vague ang statement. Kung diskusyong gaya nito ok lang, me interpretasyon ka meron din ako, pero pag journalist ka you have to be objective not subjective.
 
"yan ang mali, kasi sa statement mo pa lang inamin na din na nagiging subjective sila sa news kasi naka depende sa understanding nila ng statement(assuming na talagang iba lang ang understading nila which I think very unlikely). Whereas ang goal ng journalist dapat is to be OBJECTIVE. Duty nila yan, again, paulit2x tayo, i relay kung ano mismo ang sinabi at hayaan ang mga readers mag interpret. Di mo kailangan mamroblema kung gano ka vague ang statement. Kung diskusyong gaya nito ok lang, me interpretasyon ka meron din ako, pero pag journalist ka you have to be objective not subjective."

Objective ang statement, san mo nakita yan? Sinabi ko iba-iba yung meaning ng hijack, pede magamit sa mabuting paraan o masamang paraan, depende sa context. Hindi nagets ni Willie kase di nya first language ang English, akala nya puro masama lang ang meaning ng hijack.
 
" Di mo kailangan mamroblema kung gano ka vague ang statement. Kung diskusyong gaya nito ok lang, me interpretasyon ka meron din ako, pero pag journalist ka you have to be objective not subjective."

Actually, nakakatakot yung ganyan, mahirap maginterpret, si Duterte nga si Roque ginagamit pang interpret sa sinasabi nya, hindi mo pede iexpect na tama lagi kase sobrang vague ng meaning at context

“My orders to the police and military ... if there is trouble and there’s an occasion that they fight back and your lives are in danger, shoot them dead.”

Dun palang sa "trouble" wala na, ano meaning nun? Sobrang daming meaning, at nakakatakot dahil presidente ang nagsalita, kung ayun sinabi ni Duterte ayun din sasabihin ko, shoot them dead kung nag cause ng trouble, yung tanong, anong klaseng trouble? Quarantine violation? Di nya inispecify, kita mo, yung mga pulis kung ano-ano pinaggagagawa, binunutan ng baril kase lumabag sa quarantine rules, etc. Kaya mahalaga maging tutok sa pananalita (something na hindi magawa ni Duterte.) Mahalaga ang naiintindihan na salita.

Kasalanan ba ng rappler na hindi nila sinugar coat yung sinabi ni Duterte? Hindi, kasalanan yun ni Duterte sa kapabayaan, sobrang laki ng kapangyarihan na binigay nya sa pulis sa mga salitang yun.
 
Exactly! that's your own interpretation, I have mine as well and we are being subjective with it. Is Rappler allowed to be subjective? No! Objective Journalism is helping the audience make up their own mind about a story, providing the facts alone and then letting audiences interpret those on their own. And that's how it should be.
 
Lol, Rappler reported what Duterte said, nothing more. They are not suppose to sugarcoat anything, they didn't sugarcoat the statement, Duterte said shoot them dead if they caused trouble, that's what he SAID, LITERALLY, they reported what he said and that's it. He said shoot them dead if they caused trouble. What is it you're so furious about? If anything, you should be mad at Duterte because he said something that is so vague, it's the audience who had their own interpretation, they created it because Duterte said SHOOT THEM DEAD, that itself will cause a lot of hysteria among the people.
 
No one is asking them to sugarcoat, they can be all critical all they want, but at least have the decency to state the whole context and not just a part of it. I'm not furious, you were asking for a fact about what we are claiming and I just gave it to you. But still, hindi enough coz i had to explain everything like I'm explaining it to an 8 year old kid. Kahit nga siguru ang litiral na 8 year old by now na gets na yung point. Kayo?ambot sa inyo....hahahaha..

Getting mad over Duterte about this so called vague statement is another thing, pa balik2 ka diyan, pinag uusapan natin kung pano nirelay ng Rappler ang balita.
 
It's actually the other way around, I'm the one who's teaching and you're the ignorant one, they reported the context in the article, you could even look it up

"MANILA, Philippines – Facing unrest from Filipinos running out of resources, President Rodrigo Duterte ordered police and soldiers to "shoot" residents causing "trouble" during the government's lockdown put in place to contain the spread of the novel coronavirus.

Duterte delivered another round of violent threats in an impromptu televised address aired on Wednesday night, April 1, hours after some 21 Quezon City residents were arrested for demanding help and protesting without a permit.

Before issuing his response, Duterte called out the Left and urban poor group Kadamay, whom he accused of instigating the protest.

"Remember kayong mga Left: You are not the government…. Kaya huwag kayo mag-gawa ng kalokohan at mag-riot-riot diyan because I will order you detained at bibitawan ko kayo pagkatapos na wala na itong COVID," Duterte said, referring to the disease caused by the novel coronavirus.

(Remember, you leftists: You are not the government. Do not go around causing trouble and riots because I will order you detained until this COVID [outbreak ends].)

"I will not hesitate. My orders are sa pulis pati military, pati mga barangay na pagka ginulo at nagkaroon ng okasyon na lumaban at ang buhay ninyo ay nalagay sa alanganin, shoot them dead," he said.

"Naintindihan ninyo? Patay. Eh kaysa mag-gulo kayo diyan, eh 'di ilibing ko na kayo," he added.

(I will not hesitate. My orders are to the police and military, also the barangay, that if there is trouble or the situation arises that people fight and your lives are on the line, shoot them dead. Do you understand? Dead. Instead of causing trouble, I'll send you to the grave.)

What happened? Earlier on Wednesday, residents from Sitio San Roque, a community mostly populated by low-wage earners like factory and construction workers, called on the government for aid after weeks of being unable to earn money needed to purchase necessities.

So far, there are conflicting accounts as to whether all the arrested persons took part in the protest or were just looking for food. The Quezon City Police District, however, arrested some 21 people for protesting without a permit.

The arrests were widely condemned by labor groups, who pointed out the government should have been ready to help low-income earners cope amid the lockdown instead of using force.

What should hungry residents do in the meantime?

"Do not intimidate government. Do not challenge government. Matatalo kayo, sigurado (You'll surely lose)," the President said.

Duterte then told residents to just wait for government assistance, even if it may be delayed.

Under the recently signed Bayanihan to Heal as One Act, the government is supposed to distribute P200 billion worth of cash aid among some 18 million poor households. But the aid cannot be released yet because agencies are still building a "consolidated database" of beneficiaries.

"Magtiis na lang siguro kayo ng delayed delivery pero dadating 'yan at hindi ka magugutom. Hindi ka mamamatay sa gutom," Duterte said.

(Just wait for the delivery even if it's delayed, it will arrive and you will not go hungry. You will not die of hunger.)

During his speech, Duterte also warned against harming health workers who face discrimination in communities over fears they have the coronavirus.

Days earlier, the President drew wide criticism for romanticizing health workers' deaths, saying they were "lucky to die" for the country.

Why this matters: The lack of preparation for the monthlong lockdown – implemented to prevent the spread of the coronavirus – is taking its toll on thousands of displaced workers who survive on daily wages.

While strict quarantine measures are needed to quell the virus' spread, many have pointed out the lockdown can only be effective if the government is swift in delivering essential social relief for disenfranchised Filipinos.

As of Wednesday, the Philippines has 2,311 confirmed coronavirus cases, with 96 deaths and 50 recoveries. – Rappler.com"

They reported every single ****ing thing, I don't what's wrong with your head but they reported everything in that article, they even reported where that thing is aimed at, just stop, you lost already, you don't even have an argument, you're just reusing the same old thing
 
"No one is asking them to sugarcoat, they can be all critical all they want, but at least have the decency to state the whole context and not just a part of it. I'm not furious, you were asking for a fact about what we are claiming and I just gave it to you"

Again, if you're gonna be mad at someone, be mad at Duterte for running his mouth, Rappler just reported the issue. They are not even critical, they reported what he said, where it's aimed at and everything, they reported the whole thing, there's no context left behind, nothing that you've said about that article is true.

"State the whole context" They did.
 
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