🕯️ Traditions EVERYTHING WRONG WITH EVOLUTION

[Deleted member 1523148]

To Everyone who can read. This is ONLY FOR ken_rebirth . IF YOU ARE NOT HIM, DO NOT PUT ANY COMMENT I REPEAT, IF YOU ARE NOT HIM, DO NOT COMMENT..

KUDOS FOR EVERY THEIST HERE WHO KNOWS HOW TO FOLLOW SIMPLE RULES (SUCH AS NOT TO POST ANYTHING, IF YOU ARE NOT PART OF THE CONVO), UNLIKE THOSE 4"MILITANTS" WHO STILL POSTED SOMETHING HERE!!
THIS SIMPLE FACT MAKES ME PROUD OF BEING PART OF THEISM...

This Conversation is ONLY for the two of us..
We will show it in Public as an open agreement..


This post will be his legacy.


ANYWAYS, THERE IS A LINK DOWN BELOW OF THE ESCALATING NUMBERS OF SCIENTIST DISPROVING EVOLUTION. YOU CAN DOWNLOAD IT THERE. AS OF NOW ITS MORE THAN 1000 SCIENTIST (ALL OVER THE GLOBE) AND ARE STILL GROWING. NAMES WAS GIVEN, THEIR FACES TOO AND THEIR DEGREE.. ENJOY.




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Your Greatness,
Remember me?
I am that lowly person whom you are continuously calling "stupid".
I deserved that.
I tried having a decent convo with you, Your Greatness.
But just like your "friends", that is those militant atheist here, you are easily persuaded by your malice.
It is my fault. I apologized.
You told me "Evolution is real."
I told you multiple times that EVOLUTION is not real.
You said "it was NEVER disproven".
Then you called me names.
I deserved that.
But it makes me laugh (I'm so sorry your grace) and it made me wonder where do you study? Are you even studying? Where does your knowledge come from?
This are not a question to degrade you, Your Grace. This is just me not knowing where should I stand.



So here Your Grace, I made a post. JUST FOR YOU (since you are also asking for it.)
I (that stupid person whom you are calling) will show you, WHAT MAKES ME, ME, AND YOU, YOU.


I wanna show these people that you are greater than me. Yes your Grace. This post is for people to know your greatness.


I know you are smarter than me...



Shall we start Your Grace?





Title: Everything Wrong With Evolution(Proof Backed Up With Science.)



1. The Change in Chromosome.

"Evolutionist" believe that as a specie evolve they will retain their chromosome count. THIS PROVE EVOLUTION WAS WRONG. Since the beginning, Humans have a 46 Chromosome and Monkey/Apes have 48/Primates 54. If we really came from them, how did we change our chromosome count?

Now, Evolutionist stated that "as time passes chromosome count can change". BUT IT WAS NEVER PROVEN THAT CHROMOSOME COUNT CAN BE CHANGE(AND WILL STILL RETAIN HIS "HUMANITY"). NOT EVEN 1 SUCCESSFUL EXPERIMENT. NONE. JUST LIKE EVOLUTION. NOT ONE SUCCESSFUL EXPERIMENT TO PROVE IT. NONE..

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Shall I explain this simple thing to you, Your Grace?




2. We cannot mate/make another "creature"with monkeys.

If we really came from them, then we can make "another" creature like a combination of Lion + Tiger = Liger. BUT WE CANT. Why? BECAUSE OUR GENES DONT MATCH.


Shall I explain this simple thing to you, Your Grace?





3. The "findings" in regards to Evolution Chart is INCOMPLETE.


As the picture showed, we DON'T HAVE FOSSIL REMAINS OF EVERYTHING IN THE MIDDLE.


What's funny is, They are able to find fossils of "monkey" from Millions? of years BUT can't find the "succeeding" fossils. Where are those? Still hidden? Still undug? Or maybe they are Non-Existent?


Shall I explain this simple things to you, Your Grace?





4. The discrepancy with the Fossilized "humanoid" beings.

A debate arise if this are real fossil of "evolve" monkey of JUST a remains of PREHISTORIC MONKEYS. Have you ever wonder why THERE IS VERY FEW FOSSILS OF A PREHISTORIC MONKEYS? Because whenever they will find a remains of them, those Evolutionist will add those to "Evolution" of man. AND PEOPLE WILL NOTICE THE COMPARISON OF THE TWO. And a question will arise, HOW TO DIFFERENTIATE WHICH IS A MONKEY AND WHICH IS A HUMANOID? Which will make Evolution more Superficial.


Shall I explain this simple thing to you, Your Grace?



5. The existence of Primates.

Cats ancestor are now gone. So does dogs. But if we came from monkeys, then why are they still here? Why NOT every monkey evolved? If ONE monkey are able to CHANGE, WHERE DID IT GET ITS ABILITY TO?


AND IF THERE IS ONLY ONE THAT WAS ABLE TO CHANGE, THEN HOW DID IT PROPAGATE?


AND IF MULTIPLE DID CHANGE, THEN HOW COME SOME STAYS THE SAME?


AND WHY ARE THESE MONKEYS OF TODAY ARE NOT EVOLVING? GIVEN THE TIME THEY STAYED ON EARTH.


Shall I explain this simple things to you, Your Grace?


6. The "Evolution" of Dinosaur.

It was "theorized" that T-Rex evolved to chickens................... Yes. Chickens. That scary huge monster ON TOP OF THE FOOD CHAIN evolved to an animals that we loved to eat. Great! More food to us then.


Shall I explain this to you, Your Grace?





7. The GROWING numbers of Scientist disproving Evolution.

Did you know that there are more than 1,000 (and are still growing) SCIENTIST who signed a petition to "Carefully Examine the Evidence of Evolution" because they are Skeptical? YOU CAN FREELY DOWNLOAD THE LIST OF THOSE SCIENTIST WHO DONT SUPPORT EVOLUTION. Don't wory, most of them have Ph.D Your Grace. Most of them are not as stupid as me. ☺


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Shall I download this also for you, Your Grace?

I only put things that you can easily understand Your Grace. If you want me to add more with complex scientific stuffs, please BARGE my inbox.

If you have anymore question, Please say those insulting magic words of yours against me and I will respond, Your Grace.


Sincerely,


PHC-NerdyFTW

 

[ken_rebirth]

This is a acknowledgement receipt.
i was flattered with this thread. really.

i do hope that WE can drop those 'sarcasm' and 'ad hom' so that wen can have a harmonious, meaningful, fruitful debate on the topic at hand.

now, first let me digest all those things that you post, dissect it if i may, and i hope you can give me time to read those links you have given (anyway, hindi naman tayo nagmamadali).

while doing so, can i ask you. what is EVOLUTION for you? what is your personal understanding on Evolution? (not based on google, but your personal perception about evolution).

 

[Deleted member 1523148]

This is a acknowledgement receipt.
i was flattered with this thread. really.

i do hope that WE can drop those 'sarcasm' and 'ad hom' so that wen can have a harmonious, meaningful, fruitful debate on the topic at hand.

now, first let me digest all those things that you post, dissect it if i may, and i hope you can give me time to read those links you have given (anyway, hindi naman tayo nagmamadali).

while doing so, can i ask you. what is EVOLUTION for you? what is your personal understanding on Evolution? (not based on google, but your personal perception about evolution).

Oh your grace, Thanks for this wonderful reply of yours which I believed you carefully took from your precious time. This is highly appreciated.

For starter, I'm not being sarcastic Your Grace. Everything I posted in here is true. You love calling me names (which I deserve) and you are way smarter than me.

About your question, I define Evolution(same with a good number of Scientist) as a "change or movement from one class to another.")

How do you define Evolution then?

Can you also explain why Scientistssss are skeptical about it?

Thanks.

 

[fabbriche]

97% ng mga scientists tinatanggap ang evolution. Mga creationists lang ang nagrereject sa evolution. Kahit Catholic Church matagal nang tinanggap at itinuturo ang evolution sa mga schools nila dahil alam nilang wala silang laban pag binangga nila ang theory of evolution na pinakamatibay na theory sa science.

Proven na ang evolution matagal na. Ang nadisprove ay ang bibliya na nagmula raw sa alikabok ang tao, at 6000 years old lang daw ang mundo.

 

[Deleted member 1523148]

97% ng mga scientists tinatanggap ang evolution. Mga creationists lang ang nagrereject sa evolution. Kahit Catholic Church matagal nang tinanggap at itinuturo ang evolution sa mga schools nila dahil alam nilang wala silang laban pag binangga nila ang theory of evolution na pinakamatibay na theory sa science.

Proven na ang evolution matagal na. Ang nadisprove ay ang bibliya na nagmula raw sa alikabok ang tao, at 6000 years old lang daw ang mundo.

97% ng mga scientists tinatanggap ang evolution. Mga creationists lang ang nagrereject sa evolution. Kahit Catholic Church matagal nang tinanggap at itinuturo ang evolution sa mga schools nila dahil alam nilang wala silang laban pag binangga nila ang theory of evolution na pinakamatibay na theory sa science.

Proven na ang evolution matagal na. Ang nadisprove ay ang bibliya na nagmula raw sa alikabok ang tao, at 6000 years old lang daw ang mundo.

PAALALA SA MGA MAMBABASA..
Huwag pong tularan ang militant atheist na ito..
Nakikisali nanaman sa usapan ng iba..

 

[fabbriche]

PAALALA SA MGA MAMBABASA..
Huwag pong tularan ang militant atheist na ito..
Nakikisali nanaman sa usapan ng iba..

Paalaala sa mga bata!!! Nakakamangmang ang religion!!!!

 

[ken_rebirth]

i'm just gonna list the topics that we need to discuss, and can we tackle it one by one?

Here are the list:
1. 'The Change in Chromosome' (i'm gonna skip this for the MEANTIME, i'm not familiar with the count of chromosomes).
2. 'We cannot mate/make another "creature"with monkeys'.
3. 'The "findings" in regards to Evolution Chart is INCOMPLETE'.
4. 'The discrepancy with the Fossilised "humanoid" beings.'
5. 'The existence of Primates'.
6. 'The "Evolution" of Dinosaur'.
7. 'The GROWING numbers of Scientist disproving Evolution.'

My Definition of Evolution:
Evolution is a GRADUAL change in the characteristic of a species over a LONG PERIOD OF TIME, a cumulative INHERITED changes in a population of organisms through TIME, a process of growth and development OVER TIME (i'm gonna cut here, kc mahaba ang definition ng evolution).
(and the keyword here is TIME)

Now let we take the no. 2 first:
2. i think you have wrong understanding with EVOLUTION, Yes we cant make another "creature of monkeys" without significant amount of TIME given. but if given enough time (for example a million year) it can create another BRANCH of monkeys. and with your example of LION and TIGER (yes, baka nga hindi pwede magkaruon ng LIGER). but have you heard the word BREED?. for example, on how do they mate different DOGS to create other breed of DOGS.

Fun Fact:
Did you know in Oct. 2014, POPE FRANCIS (your church leader) already RECOGNISED the Theory of Evolution and Big Bang? (though with a twist of course)
you can Google it. but for the sake of reference. im gonna give some links.

smithsonianmag.?com/?smart-news/?pope-would-you-accept-evolution-and-big-bang-180953166/

independent?.co.uk/?news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.?html

Note: Just remove the '?'

 

[Deleted member 1523148]

i'm just gonna list the topics that we need to discuss, and can we tackle it one by one?

Here are the list:
1. 'The Change in Chromosome' (i'm gonna skip this for the MEANTIME, i'm not familiar with the count of chromosomes).
2. 'We cannot mate/make another "creature"with monkeys'.
3. 'The "findings" in regards to Evolution Chart is INCOMPLETE'.
4. 'The discrepancy with the Fossilised "humanoid" beings.'
5. 'The existence of Primates'.
6. 'The "Evolution" of Dinosaur'.
7. 'The GROWING numbers of Scientist disproving Evolution.'

My Definition of Evolution:
Evolution is a GRADUAL change in the characteristic of a species over a LONG PERIOD OF TIME, a cumulative INHERITED changes in a population of organisms through TIME, a process of growth and development OVER TIME (i'm gonna cut here, kc mahaba ang definition ng evolution).
(and the keyword here is TIME)

Now let we take the no. 2 first:
2. i think you have wrong understanding with EVOLUTION, Yes we cant make another "creature of monkeys" without significant amount of TIME given. but if given enough time (for example a million year) it can create another BRANCH of monkeys. and with your example of LION and TIGER (yes, baka nga hindi pwede magkaruon ng LIGER). but have you heard the word BREED?. for example, on how do they mate different DOGS to create other breed of DOGS.

Fun Fact:
Did you know in Oct. 2014, POPE FRANCIS (your church leader) already RECOGNISED the Theory of Evolution and Big Bang? (though with a twist of course)
you can Google it. but for the sake of reference. im gonna give some links.

smithsonianmag.?com/?smart-news/?pope-would-you-accept-evolution-and-big-bang-180953166/

independent?.co.uk/?news/world/europe/pope-francis-declares-evolution-and-big-bang-theory-are-right-and-god-isnt-a-magician-with-a-magic-9822514.?html

Note: Just remove the '?'

Oh Your Grace,
So we are skipping #1.... I thought you are familiar with everything?.. Okay then, it is your call Your Grace..

#2. I am talking about Gene Your Grace.. This can not be controlled by Time. We are able to make LIGERS because the gene of Lion and Tiger came from 1 PARENT ANCESTOR. We are able to make MULES because the gene of HORSES and DONKEY came from 1 PARENT ANCESTOR.

IF MONKEYS AND HUMAN HAVE 1 PARENT "ANCESTOR" , THEN CROSS BREEDING IS POSSIBLE....
BUT ITS NOT...

WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR GRACE??

ABOUT YOUR FUN FACT:
1. why did you divert to a Pope believing in Evolution?? Do you now accept "scientific stuffs" from a priest? If so, how is his claims right?
2. I am not a Catholic. Pope Francis is not my leader. ONLY JESUS CHRIST... MAYBE YOU CAN POST HERE A WEBSITE WHERE CHRIST SAID HE SUPPORTS EVOLUTION..?

Sorry, i did not check the website Your Grace, cause i am not affiliated with that Pope...And in most cases i disagree with him..

 

[ken_rebirth]

Oh Your Grace,
So we are skipping #1.... I thought you are familiar with everything?.. Okay then, it is your call Your Grace..

#2. I am talking about Gene Your Grace.. This can not be controlled by Time. We are able to make LIGERS because the gene of Lion and Tiger came from 1 PARENT ANCESTOR. We are able to make MULES because the gene of HORSES and DONKEY came from 1 PARENT ANCESTOR.

IF MONKEYS AND HUMAN HAVE 1 PARENT "ANCESTOR" , THEN CROSS BREEDING IS POSSIBLE....
BUT ITS NOT...

WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR GRACE??

ABOUT YOUR FUN FACT:
1. why did you divert to a Pope believing in Evolution?? Do you now accept "scientific stuffs" from a priest? If so, how is his claims right?
2. I am not a Catholic. Pope Francis is not my leader. ONLY JESUS CHRIST... MAYBE YOU CAN POST HERE A WEBSITE WHERE CHRIST SAID HE SUPPORTS EVOLUTION..?

Sorry, i did not check the website Your Grace, cause i am not affiliated with that Pope...And in most cases i disagree with him..

OK, i had hard time understanding your statement (sorry for that).

'we cannot make another "creature" with monkey x human (is monkey a general term here?) because HUMAN and MONKEY have different GENE (i hope now i get that right).

Dont know why you are obsessed with monkeys, or limit your self with monkey (if its not in general term), im gonna introduce to you the chimpanzee :
2.a. Human Chromosome vs Chimpz Chromosome are very similar. the difference is just around 2%. CHIMPANZEE IS THE CLOSEST GENES TO HUMANS.
2.b ofcourse i would not recommend to mate humanxchimpz (that's unethical) just to create another "creature". but if we are talking of compatibility, the closest to humans are chimpanzee.
2.c. this is the most frequent misconception between chimpz and humans, HUMAN DID NOT EVOLVE FROM CHIMPS, rather, WE SHARE COMMON ANCESTOR, we share the same evolutionary tree.

side note:
I didn't divert the topic, as it is indicated, it's just a FUN FACT. and my point is, even the Catholic Leader (Pope) already recognized the Theory of Evolution (sabihin ko sana, ikaw na lang napag iwanan). but as you point out, your not a Catholic. so i apologize for that.

 

[Deleted member 1523148]

OK, i had hard time understanding your statement (sorry for that).

'we cannot make another "creature" with monkey x human (is monkey a general term here?) because HUMAN and MONKEY have different GENE (i hope now i get that right).

Dont know why you are obsessed with monkeys, or limit your self with monkey (if its not in general term), im gonna introduce to you the chimpanzee :
2.a. Human Chromosome vs Chimpz Chromosome are very similar. the difference is just around 2%. CHIMPANZEE IS THE CLOSEST GENES TO HUMANS.
2.b ofcourse i would not recommend to mate humanxchimpz (that's unethical) just to create another "creature". but if we are talking of compatibility, the closest to humans are chimpanzee.
2.c. this is the most frequent misconception between chimpz and humans, HUMAN DID NOT EVOLVE FROM CHIMPS, rather, WE SHARE COMMON ANCESTOR, we share the same evolutionary tree.

side note:
I didn't divert the topic, as it is indicated, it's just a FUN FACT. and my point is, even the Catholic Leader (Pope) already recognized the Theory of Evolution (sabihin ko sana, ikaw na lang napag iwanan). but as you point out, your not a Catholic. so i apologize for that.

Your grace, Chimpazee is A Monkey. Don't you know that?

Anyways, they are not similar. As I said, Humans chromosome count IS different from ALL kind of monkeys(that include Chimpazee).

"We share common ancestors with Chimpazee."

Your Grace, If we do then we won't have a different sets of chromosome. But IT IS DIFFERENT.

Lions, Tigers, and Domestic Cats HAVE 38 CHROMOSOME counts.... Because they ALL came from 1 Parent.

Cayote, Wolves, Jackals and Domestic Dogs ALL HAVE 78 Chromosome counts... Because they ALL have 1 Parent Ancestor..

MONKEY(ALL OF THEM) = 54 chromosome counts
HUMAN(ALL OF US) = 46 Chromosome Counts

We don't share the same Ancestor Your Grace...........

 

[JackFrost10]

everybody in the scientific community is trying to disapprove each others theory since day 1,
to be more accurate its darwins theory of evolution not evolution in general, evolution is used in modern self learning AI like alexa and siri.

 

[ken_rebirth]

Your grace, Chimpazee is A Monkey. Don't you know that?

Anyways, they are not similar. As I said, Humans chromosome count IS different from ALL kind of monkeys(that include Chimpazee).

"We share common ancestors with Chimpazee."

Your Grace, If we do then we won't have a different sets of chromosome. But IT IS DIFFERENT.

Lions, Tigers, and Domestic Cats HAVE 38 CHROMOSOME counts.... Because they ALL came from 1 Parent.

Cayote, Wolves, Jackals and Domestic Dogs ALL HAVE 78 Chromosome counts... Because they ALL have 1 Parent Ancestor..

MONKEY(ALL OF THEM) = 54 chromosome counts
HUMAN(ALL OF US) = 46 Chromosome Counts

We don't share the same Ancestor Your Grace...........

'Your grace, Chimpazee is A Monkey'.
'Anyways, they are not similar.'

Sir, you are indecisive with your thoughts.

Capuchin Ringtail Monkey have 27 pair of Chromosome, while Rhesus Monkey have 21 Pair, so NOT ALL MONKEY have 27 pair of Chromosome (54 chromosome if you like) as you suggested.

Chimpz are not Monkeys. Apes(chimpz,gorilla,orangutan,human) are different with Monkeys, apes don't have tail while most monkeys have. Apes have larger brain than monkeys do.

But the point here is Chimpz and Humans are MOSTLY identical. as i've checked (through google, hindi ko kc kabisado ung count) Humans have 23 pairs of Chromosome while Chimpz have 24 pairs. with this, it has been theorised that Humans and Chimpz shares the same Common Ancestor.

so i hope we can come up to conclusion that chimpz are not monkeys, chimpz have 98% similarity on chromosome with humans, humans didnt evolve from chimpz nor monkeys rather they share the same common ancestor. we cannot create another "creature" if we mate human and monkey (coz its unethical).

 

[ken_rebirth]

everybody in the scientific community is trying to disapprove each others theory since day 1,
to be more accurate its darwins theory of evolution not evolution in general, evolution is used in modern self learning AI like alexa and siri.

we presume that what he is talking about is Darwin's Theory of Evolution. its just that TS dont have the grasp or understanding of what Evolution is. TS still insist that Creation in the book of Genesis is more plausible explanation of life on Earth than the Theory of Evolution. that is why he is trying very hard to bring down the idea of Evolution.
i hope he can win Nobel Prize for this remarkable findings.

 

[Deleted member 1523148]

everybody in the scientific community is trying to disapprove each others theory since day 1,
to be more accurate its darwins theory of evolution not evolution in general, evolution is used in modern self learning AI like alexa and siri.

With all due respect..
As this post stated, THIS IS ONLY FOR ME AND KEN_REBIRTH..

WE DONT NEED OTHER PEOPLE COMMENTING HERE..


Pangalawa ka na sa mga atheist dito na di marunong sumunod sa rules..
Common ba yan sa inyo??

Pakidelete tong pos mo, salamat...

 

[Deleted member 1523148]

we presume that what he is talking about is Darwin's Theory of Evolution. its just that TS dont have the grasp or understanding of what Evolution is. TS still insist that Creation in the book of Genesis is more plausible explanation of life on Earth than the Theory of Evolution. that is why he is trying very hard to bring down the idea of Evolution.
i hope he can win Nobel Prize for this remarkable findings.

Your Grace, kindly ask your friend to leave this thread and delete his post...
None of my friend is posting..... Your friend shouldn't too..
Let's show everyone here that WE can follow simple rules..

 

[Deleted member 1523148]

'Your grace, Chimpazee is A Monkey'.
'Anyways, they are not similar.'

Sir, you are indecisive with your thoughts.

Capuchin Ringtail Monkey have 27 pair of Chromosome, while Rhesus Monkey have 21 Pair, so NOT ALL MONKEY have 27 pair of Chromosome (54 chromosome if you like) as you suggested.

Chimpz are not Monkeys. Apes(chimpz,gorilla,orangutan,human) are different with Monkeys, apes don't have tail while most monkeys have. Apes have larger brain than monkeys do.

But the point here is Chimpz and Humans are MOSTLY identical. as i've checked (through google, hindi ko kc kabisado ung count) Humans have 23 pairs of Chromosome while Chimpz have 24 pairs. with this, it has been theorised that Humans and Chimpz shares the same Common Ancestor.

so i hope we can come up to conclusion that chimpz are not monkeys, chimpz have 98% similarity on chromosome with humans, humans didnt evolve from chimpz nor monkeys rather they share the same common ancestor. we cannot create another "creature" if we mate human and monkey (coz its unethical).

Your Grace, MONKEY is a GENERAL TERM for ITS EVERY KIND...
This "kind" or "family" is consists of Mandrills(and all its kind), Macaque(in all its kind), Baboon(in all its kind), Marmoset(in all its kind)...Chimpz, Apes, Gorilla.........

MONKEY = GENERAL TERM
PRIMATES = FAMILY

But if you dont want Chimpz to be called monkey, then let's just call him PRIMATES (I only agree for "animals" to be called like this but not humans)?
Does that makes you comfortable, Your Grace?

Yes you are right that NOT ALL "PRIMATES" share a similar chromosome counts.
I also made a mistake of putting 54 chromosome there, my bad.... I made a HUGE mistake generalizing ALL PRIMATES...
Lemurs is a Primates = 56 chromosome count
Great Apes is a Primates = 48
Macaque is a Primates = 42

I apologized for generalizing..

But here the catch..
As per JEFFREY P. TOMPKINS PhD.
The ONLY reason why "scientist" in 1991 said that humans and chimps shared the same Chromosomal Staining Patterns is because they checked it "under the microscope"....HOWEVER, THERE ARE REGIONS IN OUR CHROMOSOME THAT WE DON'T SHARE WITH CHIMPZ..

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"we cannot create another "creature" if we mate human and monkey (coz its unethical)"

I am so sorry Your Grace, but Scientist don't know the definition of "ethical".............. Have you ever heard of HUMAN EXPERIMENTING?

 

[ken_rebirth]

Your Grace, MONKEY is a GENERAL TERM for ITS EVERY KIND...
This "kind" or "family" is consists of Mandrills(and all its kind), Macaque(in all its kind), Baboon(in all its kind), Marmoset(in all its kind)...Chimpz, Apes, Gorilla.........

MONKEY = GENERAL TERM
PRIMATES = FAMILY

But if you dont want Chimpz to be called monkey, then let's just call him PRIMATES (I only agree for "animals" to be called like this but not humans)?
Does that makes you comfortable, Your Grace?

Yes you are right that NOT ALL "PRIMATES" share a similar chromosome counts.
I also made a mistake of putting 54 chromosome there, my bad.... I made a HUGE mistake generalizing ALL PRIMATES...
Lemurs is a Primates = 56 chromosome count
Great Apes is a Primates = 48
Macaque is a Primates = 42

I apologized for generalizing..

But here the catch..
As per JEFFREY P. TOMPKINS PhD.
The ONLY reason why "scientist" in 1991 said that humans and chimps shared the same Chromosomal Staining Patterns is because they checked it "under the microscope"....HOWEVER, THERE ARE REGIONS IN OUR CHROMOSOME THAT WE DON'T SHARE WITH CHIMPZ..

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"we cannot create another "creature" if we mate human and monkey (coz its unethical)"

I am so sorry Your Grace, but Scientist don't know the definition of "ethical".............. Have you ever heard of HUMAN EXPERIMENTING?

as i reiterate on my previous replies, I've always ask if your term 'Monkey' is in a general term, I've asked that to prevent confusion. anyway we're just playing semantics here.

Primates. Humans also considered primates if you haven't heard, and don't know why you still cant accept that. Even in SCIENCE class i know they already teach that.

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Someone already said this to you, But i am gonna say this again anyway, PLEASE VALIDATE YOUR SOURCE.
as i checked your link, read the content, and investigate, i've found out that it is from a group of Creationist that want to defend the content of BIBLE. as the acronym of ICR suggest INSTITUTE for CREATION RESEARCH.
I cant value their opinion (because they are deliberately bias), as i dont value the opinion of the SITE that 'O'neill atheist' you presented.

 

[Deleted member 1523148]

as i reiterate on my previous replies, I've always ask if your term 'Monkey' is in a general term, I've asked that to prevent confusion. anyway we're just playing semantics here.

Primates. Humans also considered primates if you haven't heard, and don't know why you still cant accept that. Even in SCIENCE class i know they already teach that.

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note: remove '?' and please read thoroughly

Someone already said this to you, But i am gonna say this again anyway, PLEASE VALIDATE YOUR SOURCE.
as i checked your link, read the content, and investigate, i've found out that it is from a group of Creationist that want to defend the content of BIBLE. as the acronym of ICR suggest INSTITUTE for CREATION RESEARCH.
I cant value their opinion (because they are deliberately bias), as i dont value the opinion of the SITE that 'O'neill atheist' you presented.

Your grace, what i find very appealing is this.

1. Are you referring to "STRANGE NOTION"? If so, instead of asking why that site was "founded" by theism, WHY CANT YOU JUST ASK, WHY DID TIM WROTE AN ARTICLE ON THAT SITE? NOT JUST ONE ARTICLE BUT TWO PARTS??

I AM STILL WAITING FOR THAT "FRIEND" OF YOURS (IF HE REALLY IS "A SEPARATE" FRIEND OF YOURS"), AN ACTUAL STATEMENT FROM TIM SAYING "I AM NOT THE ONE WHO WROTE THAT ARTICLE"...........
AND IF YOU MAY, MAYBE YOU CAN SEND US SOME SCREENSHOT OF A STATEMENT FROM HIM SAYING HE DID NOT DO IT..

Because if you guys cant, WE THEIST WILL CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT HE WROTE IT...
And it will be very silly to "DENY" a work of SOMEONE.
SPECIALLY IF HE HAVE AN ACTUAL DEGREE...


BTW, in other Country your Grace, Strange Notion can be sued if they will MISQUOTE someone.......But that article is still in there.......WHY DO YOU THINK???

2. And about ICR..... Your Grace, Will you just DISCREDIT a work of someone with PH.D, REGARDLESS OF HIS BELIEF??
JEFFREY P. TOMPKINS = PhD in GENETICS
ERIN WAYMAN = M.A in Anthropology.

IM SO SORRY YOUR GRACE, But:

Anthropologists are scientists who study the development and behaviors of human beings throughout the world, present and past, to help better understand humanity as a whole. They examine biological, archaeological, linguistic or sociocultural traditions, depending on their area of expertise.

Geneticist is a biologist who studies genetics, the science of genes, heredity, and variation of organisms.

WHO BARES MORE WEIGHT??


3. "I cant value their opinion (because they are deliberately bias)"
ISN'T IT THAT SMITHSONIAN SITE A PURE ATHEIST SITE????? I THINK THAT IS CALLED BEING "BIASED"??
Don't you think, Your Grace??

We are only on #2........
There are still 5 more...
Hope you keep up..]
Please Keep Up..
We are yet to talk about good stuff..



PS, Please be careful with your replies Your Grace... I can easily spot a "duplicate"...
And I think it will be "funny" to know that I am only dealing with an alter.

 

[JackFrost10]

With all due respect..
As this post stated, THIS IS ONLY FOR ME AND KEN_REBIRTH..

WE DONT NEED OTHER PEOPLE COMMENTING HERE..


Pangalawa ka na sa mga atheist dito na di marunong sumunod sa rules..
Common ba yan sa inyo??

Pakidelete tong pos mo, salamat...

I'm just pointing out mistakes, you can report me if you like, but putting a misleading information to prove a point must be corrected.

 

[Deleted member 1523148]

I'm just pointing out mistakes, you can report me if you like, but putting a misleading information to prove a point must be corrected.

I think this is called DISRESPECTING since this is a DEBATE.
Well, I guess it is very common from you guys?? Maybe..

This is a 1v1 conversation..
Funny how there is already 3 of you vs me.
Dont you have "faith" with your "friend"?

I AM EXPECTING YOU NOT TO PUT FURTHER REPLIES...
Let's show everyone that we are well educated here.