Sara resigns as DepEd Secretary

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Ano kaya ang dapat nating i-expect na susunod na mangyayari?

 

[BicycleHorse]

yan if we based on the propaganda na ginagawa natin against China (inaapi daw kami ng China)

If China has a legal basis for all its activities inside our EEZ, such as the restriction of freedom of navigation in our territory, why did it not just issue a diplomatic protest instead of deploying their CCG? We all know that China did not accept the ruling. That's why they act as if they own the WPS.

 

[plhbg1]

If China has a legal basis for all its activities inside our EEZ, such as the restriction of freedom of navigation in our territory, why did it not just issue a diplomatic protest instead of deploying their CCG? We all know that China did not accept the ruling. That's why they act as if they own the WPS.

no one has legal basis to own any area, all are claimants, as far as ownership is concerned, no one owns the area, it remains as international waters

 

[BicycleHorse]

no one has legal basis to own any area, all are claimants, as far as ownership is concerned, no one owns the area, it remains as international waters

Yes, and it is evident that China wants to own WPS. Just look how far is their territories.

 

[plhbg1]

Yes, and it is evident that China wants to own WPS. Just look how far is their territories.

so si Pinas lang ang pwede mag "want to own"? si China hindi?

 

[ZummerSoltice]

She can't defend herself on the issues she created. Remember that Madumb Fiona is a public official and it is normal that people will criticize her and no one can stop someone from criticizing a public official.


Opposition that supports China's action and protecting their own interest (Quiboloy, SMNI Shutdown, Higher Confidential Fund, etc.)

Issues she created?tapos pag no comment iyak pa din kayo. So saan pala sya lulugar?tsaka wow ha. Napaka entitled nyo nman dapat nakadepnde sa inyo yung gagawin ni Sara.

 

[BicycleHorse]

so si Pinas lang ang pwede mag "want to own"? si China hindi?

No, we cannot own the EEZ in the West Philippine Sea, but we can still utilize its resources without conflict. The current administration is doing great to continue to uphold our sovereign rights over its EEZ and work with ASEAN on regional management. It's important to strengthen our naval and coast guard capabilities to defend the EEZ, while defenses should be built on international law to support the position. And seek discussions for joint development agreements with neighboring countries.

 

[plhbg1]

No, we cannot own the EEZ in the West Philippine Sea, but we can still utilize its resources without conflict.

so bakit merong conflict if kaya naman pala iwasan?

The current administration is doing great to continue to uphold our sovereign rights over its EEZ and work with ASEAN on regional management.

haha kaka-salita lang ng ASEAN group boss: "it is not our obligation to support PH since they never consulted us"

It's important to strengthen our naval and coast guard capabilities to defend the EEZ, while defenses should be built on international law to support the position. And seek discussions for joint development agreements with neighboring countries.

haha so bakit merong sacrificial lamb para lang ma-deny na merong existing na discussion?

 

[ZummerSoltice]

No, we cannot own the EEZ in the West Philippine Sea, but we can still utilize its resources without conflict. The current administration is doing great to continue to uphold our sovereign rights over its EEZ and work with ASEAN on regional management. It's important to strengthen our naval and coast guard capabilities to defend the EEZ, while defenses should be built on international law to support the position. And seek discussions for joint development agreements with neighboring countries.

So what happen pala kung yung course of action ng government is on track?

 

[BicycleHorse]

so bakit merong conflict if kaya naman pala iwasan?

We do not initiate conflict since we are inside our EEZ.

haha kaka-salita lang ng ASEAN group boss: "it is not our obligation to support PH since they never consulted us"

Yes, ASEAN is not obligated to directly protect the Philippines, as ASEAN is not a supranational organization with common foreign or defense policies. I did mention the we must work with ASEAN on regional management.

haha so bakit merong sacrificial lamb para lang ma-deny na merong existing na discussion?

No, we do not held any successful joint development agreements or exploration in its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) in the West Philippine Sea in recent years. The last attempt was the Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking (JMSU) which ended in 2008.

 

[plhbg1]

We do not initiate conflict since we are inside our EEZ.

so bakit sinabi mong kaya if di naman pala kaya umiwas?

Yes, ASEAN is not obligated to directly protect the Philippines, as ASEAN is not a supranational organization with common foreign or defense policies. I did mention the we must work with ASEAN on regional management.

ayos yan at least inamin mo na we never consulted naman talaga sa kanila

No, we do not held any successful joint development agreements or exploration in its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) in the West Philippine Sea in recent years. The last attempt was the Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking (JMSU) which ended in 2008.

ayos din 'to at least aminado ka din na walang nagawa ang present admin sa diplomasya

 

[BicycleHorse]

So what happen pala kung yung course of action ng government is on track?

The current admin is using a multi-pronged approach to maximize its ability to exploit the resources in its EEZ in the WPS without direct confrontation, by strengthening its military capabilities, asserting its legal rights, and seeking cooperative arrangements while leveraging international law and regional cooperation to defend its sovereign rights.

 

[ZummerSoltice]

The current admin is using a multi-pronged approach to maximize its ability to exploit the resources in its EEZ in the WPS without direct confrontation, by strengthening its military capabilities, asserting its legal rights, and seeking cooperative arrangements while leveraging international law and regional cooperation to defend its sovereign rights.

Inshort useless

 

[BicycleHorse]

ayos yan at least inamin mo na we never consulted naman talaga sa kanila

I already mentioned that ASEAN is not a supranational organization with common foreign or defense policies. They have little authority to interfere in member states and maintain a policy of not interfering in internal affairs.

ayos din 'to at least aminado ka din na walang nagawa ang present admin sa diplomasya

A joint development agreement is different from diplomacy. Joint development agreements are specific legal/commercial arrangements to jointly explore and exploit resources in disputed or overlapping maritime areas. While diplomacy refers to the broader set of negotiations, and interactions between countries to manage their relationships and resolve conflicts.

 

[plhbg1]

I already mentioned that ASEAN is not a supranational organization with common foreign or defense policies. They have little authority to interfere in member states and maintain a policy of not interfering in internal affairs.

ehehe but nevetheless, ibinulgar pa din nila pinanggagawa natin which includes yung hindi pag consult sa kanila, actually since sinabi nila na hindi sila obligado to support it means the rest ng mga claimants ay hindi gagaya sa ginagawa ng Pinas

A joint development agreement is different from diplomacy. Joint development agreements are specific legal/commercial arrangements to jointly explore and exploit resources in disputed or overlapping maritime areas. While diplomacy refers to the broader set of negotiations, and interactions between countries to manage their relationships and resolve conflicts.

haha pwede pala mag joint exploration ang dalawang countries with bad diplomatic relations? sa panahon ni digong nagkaroon ng joint patrol with China, pero bad ba talaga ang diplomatic relations noon?

 

[ZummerSoltice]

ehehe but nevetheless, ibinulgar pa din nila pinanggagawa natin which includes yung hindi pag consult sa kanila, actually since sinabi nila na hindi sila obligado to support it means the rest ng mga claimants ay hindi gagaya sa ginagawa ng Pinas

haha pwede pala mag joint exploration ang dalawang countries with bad diplomatic relations? sa panahon ni digong nagkaroon ng joint patrol with China, pero bad ba talaga ang diplomatic relations noon?

Yan din napansin ko.di ko alam kung binasa nya ba yung mga isinagot nya sayo o galing AI lng to. San ka maghahanap nyan magjoint exploration kayo pero in bad terms kayong dalawa.

What's the purpose ng pagjoint exploration ninyo kung di pa pala kato bati.

 

[Hounted123]

We do not initiate conflict since we are inside our EEZ.


Yes, ASEAN is not obligated to directly protect the Philippines, as ASEAN is not a supranational organization with common foreign or defense policies. I did mention the we must work with ASEAN on regional management.


No, we do not held any successful joint development agreements or exploration in its exclusive economic zone (EEZ) in the West Philippine Sea in recent years. The last attempt was the Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking (JMSU) which ended in 2008.

huwag ka na po makipagtalo sa dalawang yan. kahit anong paliwanag mo jan ipipilit nilang hayaan lang ang China sa ginagawa nila sa terrotorial water na para sa pinas. may isa pa jan pinapapili ka between EEZ vs land territory. pero gusto nya ipaglaban yung karapatan ng pinas. take note gusto ipaglaban ang karapatan pero papapiliin ka. masyadong mababa reading comprehension nyan kaya di mo yan mapagliliwanagan ng maayos. kapag na corner na yan sa mga pinagsasasabi nya manggagaslight na kunwari hindi ka nya pinapapili pero hinahayaan lang ang EEZ. Tapos itatanong kung saan daw banda sya nagpapapili between sa EEZ and land territory. hindi mo yan mababago sila. akala siguro nila kapag nagpatayo ulit ng outpost yun china tulad ng sa spratly may magagawa sila e.

 

[plhbg1]

huwag ka na po makipagtalo sa dalawang yan. kahit anong paliwanag mo jan ipipilit nilang hayaan lang ang China sa ginagawa nila sa terrotorial water na para sa pinas.

kailan pa ba hindi nahayaan ang China boss? can you provide one moment na China is interrupted in their activities sa lugar?

 

[Hounted123]

kailan pa ba hindi nahayaan ang China boss? can you provide one moment na China is interrupted in their activities sa lugar?

nasagot ko na yang tanong mo sa previous thread ah. tatanong mo ulit dito? anong military capability ng pinas vs china? magisip ka muna bago ka makipagdiskusyon ulit sakin. and kpg naging aggressive ang pinas vs china may magagawa ba yang military natin? oh baka isagot mo may MDT? check mo muna kung ano ang condition para matrigger ang MDT tsaka ka bumalik sakin.

tanong mo doon sa nagbasa ng 500 pages about arbitral ruling baka naintindihan nya lahat ng nasa 500 pages

 

[plhbg1]

nasagot ko na yang tanong mo sa previous thread ah. tatanong mo ulit dito? anong military capability ng pinas vs china? magisip ka muna bago ka makipagdiskusyon ulit sakin. and kpg naging aggressive ang pinas vs china may magagawa ba yang military natin? oh baka isagot mo may MDT? check mo muna kung ano ang condition para matrigger ang MDT tsaka ka bumalik sakin.

tanong mo doon sa nagbasa ng 500 pages about arbitral ruling baka naintindihan nya lahat ng nasa 500 pages

so bakit ka nag argue ulet na as if you have been successful na hindi hayaan ang China sa kanilang activities at kami ang may gustong hayaan sila? hahanapan talaga kita ng one moment where you have been successful na hindi hayaan ang China

 

[Hounted123]

so bakit ka nag argue ulet na as if you have been successful na hindi hayaan ang China sa kanilang activities at kami ang may gustong hayaan sila? hahanapan talaga kita ng one moment where you have been successful na hindi hayaan ang China

In what sense na hinahayaan ang china? Kung hinahayaan ang china malamang wala na ngayon ang Barko sa Sierra Madre at who knows baka magtayo ulit ng military outpost tulad sa spratly. paanong hinahayaan ba? Vague ng argument mo ee. Ikaw ngayon tanungin ko. sa status ng pinas, anong magagawa ng pinas vs China? Kung ikaw masusunod. sige nga latag mo yung gusto mong mangyari.