🔒 Closed Mandatory ROTC sang ayon kaba? (RESPECT OTHER'S OPINION)

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inalis lang dati ang ROTC dahil sa massive negative publicity campaign nang mga radical leftist group, hanggang sa binaba sa NTSP hanggang sa kinalimutan na talaga.

masasabi ko lang, mas brutal pa yung school training namin compared sa ROTC training. At mas nakaka takot pa dati mga frat members, mga rambulan nang mga frat.
Magkamali kang liko sa isang kanto tututukan ka ng sumpak at icepick. Mga panahong kalye lang ang libangan ng mga bata at mga panahong tigasin pa mga bata. Di tulad ngayon lalambot lambot kaonti ganito ganire stressed at depressed kaagad, mental health at sandamakmak na kalambutan. Apaka sensitive ng mga bata ngayon e
 
Magkamali kang liko sa isang kanto tututukan ka ng sumpak at icepick. Mga panahong kalye lang ang libangan ng mga bata at mga panahong tigasin pa mga bata. Di tulad ngayon lalambot lambot kaonti ganito ganire stressed at depressed kaagad, mental health at sandamakmak na kalambutan. Apaka sensitive ng mga bata ngayon e

haha iba naman yan, mula noon at ngayun matapang talaga mga batang kalye.

yung sakin lang yung mga SHS at college students dati compared sa ngayun, dati sa ROTC wala naman nag reklamo samin mas natatakot pa kami sa mga frats kasi nandun lahat nang mga salbahe na mga estudents.

mas mahirap pa school initiation namin kesa sa ROTC.
 
Kahit advance pa technology ng SoKor anong laban nyan sa nuclear missiles. Isang missile lang makalusot sa defense mo laki na ng damage eh.
Engot ka rin ba? Ang purpose nito ay paghahanda. Kung nagdecide na sugurin ng china ang pinas, may choice ka ba? Hindi porket magkakaron tayo nito eh aasta na tayong malakas at susugod nalang basta basta. Gamitin ang utak ka
Pyongpyang would never use nukes if war broke out between them and the south Korea. Look at Russia and Ukriane. Russia is a superpower country and a nuclear capable but they never use such weapon in Ukriane, because it would result a chain of response that could trigger into world war 3 and they won't allow it to happen thus would be the ending of human civilization.
 
Pyongpyang would never use nukes if war broke out between them and the south Korea. Look at Russia and Ukriane. Russia is a superpower country and a nuclear capable but they never use such weapon in Ukriane, because it would result a chain of response that could trigger into world war 3 and they won't allow it to happen thus would be the ending of human civilization.

di natin alam. wag natin kalimutan yung cuban missile crisis at iba pang mga seconds to nuclear annellation noong kasagsagan nang cold war.
 
as reserve army, syempre sang-ayon ako diyan. About discipline kasi yan tsaka applied naman diyan yung rules and regulation ng AFP.
 
Si palaging usap, Tribunal Issues nga natin sa china disregarded lang nila. Usap? Matagal nang hindi pwedeng makipag usap sa china. Kalakas makapag reject sa ROTC, pero kpop fan naman. Buti pa nga sila may mandatory military service ha, MANDATORY MILITARY. Mas malala pa sa ROTC, pwe kasuka.

Kung idolo mo nga walang arte sa pag military service tapos ikaw tong nasa pilipinas at ikabubuti ng bansa aayawan mo?

Reason mo for denying ROTC? Give me atleast one.

Anong pag hahandaan? Sa tingin mo bibigyan tayo ng time ng china para makapag handa? Matagal na pong ready for war ang china, siguro nadede ka pa lang sa nanay mo. Pinag handa ba ng russia ang ukraine? Nadaan ba sa usap ang russia? You think china will be able to talk it down?

Napaka liit ng mundong ginagalawan mo nene. If you think war is not immenient ay nako, wag ka lang maging prisoner of war ng mga chekwa. Gang R@P3 at magiging comfort lady ka ng mga singket.
Nag mimilittary ba ang actress engot neto🤣 dami daming reason kung bakit NOTOROTC ako e una

1: Hazing
2: Educational Crisis
3: Corruption

dami daming problema ng bansa bakit ROTC sila nagfofocus? Kahit ang kapatid ni BBM na si imee tinuttulan na nila yan nung dekada sitenta

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Bakit hindi nalang ang bansa natin magfocus sa education? May educational crisis ang bansa natin ha antonioluna pa pangalan mo pero halatang lowkey apoligist at dds ka 🤮
 
Nag mimilittary ba ang actress engot neto🤣 dami daming reason kung bakit NOTOROTC ako e una

1: Hazing
2: Educational Crisis
3: Corruption

dami daming problema ng bansa bakit ROTC sila nagfofocus? Kahit ang kapatid ni BBM na si imee tinuttulan na nila yan nung dekada sitenta

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Bakit hindi nalang ang bansa natin magfocus sa education? May educational crisis ang bansa natin ha antonioluna pa pangalan mo pero halatang lowkey apoligist at dds ka 🤮
Hahahahaha kahit actress or kung ano ka pa sa sokor pag south korean ka may mandatory military service. Anong pinag sasasabi mo? Napag kamalan kang kpopers pero hindi mo alam yon?


First of all, I voted for ping lacson. Ping was one of the most qualified candidate, when it comes to serving the country napatunayan na.

So don't be a judgemental na pwera sang ayon ako sa isang idea, ay dds apologist na ako. I didn't voted digong last last election.

Hazing? Sa tingin mo ba hindi babaguhin at hindi iibahin ang proseso at mga patakaran pag binalik ang ROTC? Napaka mang mang mo naman po, kaya nga may mga mambabatas tayo at susuriin kung paanong ipapatupad ng matiwasan at maiwasan ang mga maling nangyare na dati.


Hindi pwera may mga negatibong nangyare dati ay negatibo na talaga yung idea ng rotc.

Educational crisis, kahit anong ganda ng education system kung walang disiplina ang bata sa tingin mo ba mapapakinabangan nila yung kagandahan ng educational system?

Look at US, state of the art ang curriculums pero look how many juveniles they have. Teens and youth out of school because of drug, gangs, and bad influence.


Corruption? Let's be honest, lahat ng bansa may some type of corruption. Walang bansang malinis, walang bansang tuwid. You can reduce corruption but you can never get rid of it. Nasa nature na ng tao ang pagiging corrupt.

You diverted the issue because alam mong tama ako about sa china noh? So panibagong argument kesyo educational crisis, kesyo hazing, kesyo corruption. All of that may sagot ako.

Stop diverting issues, yes it is about war. And china really is a threat. If you want to be a comfort lady ng mga chekwa then be my guest. Hahahaha! Don't talk about the problems of the Philippines kung ikaw mismo di tumatangkilik ng sariling atin, kpopers. Pwe.
 
Hahahahaha kahit actress or kung ano ka pa sa sokor pag south korean ka may mandatory military service. Anong pinag sasasabi mo? Napag kamalan kang kpopers pero hindi mo alam yon?


First of all, I voted for ping lacson. Ping was one of the most qualified candidate, when it comes to serving the country napatunayan na.

So don't be a judgemental na pwera sang ayon ako sa isang idea, ay dds apologist na ako. I didn't voted digong last last election.

Hazing? Sa tingin mo ba hindi babaguhin at hindi iibahin ang proseso at mga patakaran pag binalik ang ROTC? Napaka mang mang mo naman po, kaya nga may mga mambabatas tayo at susuriin kung paanong ipapatupad ng matiwasan at maiwasan ang mga maling nangyare na dati.


Hindi pwera may mga negatibong nangyare dati ay negatibo na talaga yung idea ng rotc.

Educational crisis, kahit anong ganda ng education system kung walang disiplina ang bata sa tingin mo ba mapapakinabangan nila yung kagandahan ng educational system?

Look at US, state of the art ang curriculums pero look how many juveniles they have. Teens and youth out of school because of drug, gangs, and bad influence.


Corruption? Let's be honest, lahat ng bansa may some type of corruption. Walang bansang malinis, walang bansang tuwid. You can reduce corruption but you can never get rid of it. Nasa nature na ng tao ang pagiging corrupt.

You diverted the issue because alam mong tama ako about sa china noh? So panibagong argument kesyo educational crisis, kesyo hazing, kesyo corruption. All of that may sagot ako.

Stop diverting issues, yes it is about war. And china really is a threat. If you want to be a comfort lady ng mga chekwa then be my guest. Hahahaha! Don't talk about the problems of the Philippines kung ikaw mismo di tumatangkilik ng sariling atin, kpopers. Pwe.

Si ping? Na redtagger 🤣

So ok lang may educational crisis tayo basta disiplinado?? Ganun ba? Parang ano lang ha well mannered is better than educated? Ganun ba? Kaya siguro ayaw ayusin ang education sa pinas kase kung lahat ng kabataan ay matalino edi wala ng boboto sa mga katulad nila?🤨

Isa pa kaya nga tinanggal yang ROTC para hindi na maulit ang nangyari dun kay CHUA
Kahit nga si Digong Tinakasan yan nagbigay pa nga ng tips e 🤣

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Hindi mandatory ang Millitary sa korea ang mga babae 🤨
 
Si ping? Na redtagger 🤣

So ok lang may educational crisis tayo basta disiplinado?? Ganun ba? Parang ano lang ha well mannered is better than educated? Ganun ba? Kaya siguro ayaw ayusin ang education sa pinas kase kung lahat ng kabataan ay matalino edi wala ng boboto sa mga katulad nila?🤨

Isa pa kaya nga tinanggal yang ROTC para hindi na maulit ang nangyari dun kay CHUA
Kahit nga si Digong Tinakasan yan nagbigay pa nga ng tips e 🤣

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Hindi mandatory ang Millitary sa korea ang mga babae 🤨
Well lahat naman ng kandidato may masasabi, wala namang taong perpekto.

Wait may sinabi akong ganyan?? Hahahaha paki qoute nga po ng exact words ko? Ang sabi ko napaka walang kwenta ng magandang curriculum kung walang disiplina ang studyante. Nagegets mo na ba?

Kung may disiplina ka, at current curriculum ng pilipinas ang gamit mo believe me may mararating ka. Dumaan ako sa curriculum, ng public school, at naging scholar ako ng bayan. Graduated double degree, sa comscie at psychology. Tell me educational crisis nga ba? O lack of discipline?


Hindi kami mayaman personally, I was working at studying nung college ako. Tell me hindi ba ako disiplinado?

Kaya nga gagawan ng batas at patakaran para maiwasan ang mga anumalyang pwedeng mangyare, paulit ulit ako. Hindi lang isa o dalawang tao ang susuri kundi napaka daming taong susuri kung paano maiiwasan ang mga negatibong pwedeng mangyare.


Tandaan mo hindi pwera may negatibong nangyare sa ROTC ay negatibo na ang ideyang ito.


Di mo pa din gets yung point ko? Amina gcash mo loloadan kita para hindi ka na umasa sa noload. Nakaka hiya kasi sayo e, rant ka ng rant wala ka naman palang pang load. Gusto mo dis.cord discussion pa tayo libre ko na data mo.

Ahh ganun ba yon? Swerte pala ng mga babae sa sokor e no, di ko kasi alam yan e pinoy kasi ako. E bat ikaw pinoy ka din naman kaso bat parang wala alam sa proseso ng pag gawa at pag papatupad ng mga alintuntunin dito sa bansa?


May prosesong gaganapin, hindi yan ibabalik kaagad ng walang adjustments, hindi yan ibabalik kaagad ng walang malinaw na guidelines at safety sa mga cadets. Kung may nangyare nang ganon in the past then mas magiging mabusisi na ang pag gawa ng mga rules o batas para maiwasan man ang mga ganung pang yayare.


Mahal ko ang pilipinas, gusto ko mag karoon tayo ng laban sa mga bansang gustong sumakop sa atin. Kahit na rotc man yan at hindi military service e malaking tulong na yan para maprotektahan ang mga kapawa pilipino natin.


Walang bahid ng politika itong mga respond ko sayo. Ayoko lang pag dating ng panahon e under na tayo ng ibang mga banyaga.
 
Alam mo marami akong kilala na nag ROTC noon kahit sa mga comment sections alam mo ang sabi nila? Wala silang napala

1: puro martcha
2:babad sa araw
3: dagdag gawain kesa makapaglaba at makapaglinis ng bahay
4:suntok sa tiyan kapag galit si lead
5:bayadan pag may deficiency

See? May mapalala kaba diyan? May magandang experience ang iba at meron ding hindi 🤨 napakadaming problema ng bansa diyan pa magfofocus?🤣🤣

Nagtanong lang naman ako about NOLOAD e kung may blocking e🤨

Gusto mo pala magkaroon tayo ng laban sa bansang gustong sumakop satin? E bakit ka ng psychology dapat nagsundalo ka 🤣 kaya nga may kasundaluhan at kapulisan tayo para magproteka sa bansa

Dagdag gastusin lang yan e AHHAHAHAHAAH


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Just like you said, di ba sabi mo may educational crisis? I just got lucky and pursue what will make me survive, being a scholar and studying while working. I did all of that because I have discipline.

Ikaw na mismo nag sabi "marami", hindi lahat. At marami ding nakinabang sa rotc. Hindi pwera marami kang kilala e masama at ganon na talaga ang imahe at kalidad ng rotc sa buong bansa. Napaka babaw mo naman mag isip kung ganyan.

Iba iba ang namumuno kada sector nyan, kung imperfect yung systema dati edi dapat i improve at pag aralan kung paano magiging maayos ang rotc. Napaka daling ideya hindi mo makuha.


Lahat na dadaan sa proseso. Lahat naman naka monitored at may internet na, dagdag gastos ka dyan pwe. Kung makapag gasta kayo ng mga concert nyo sa mga kpoperist nyo wagas. Hahahaha hipokrita


Kung maganda ang opportunity at financial aspect ng pagiging military at police matagal ko nang ginawa.

Paano mo maipaglalaban ang buhay ng pilipinas kung sarili mong pamilya hindi mo mapakain? Gets mo punto ko? Kaya wag mong tanungin kung bakit ito career choices ko kasi dahil sa mga choices ko, may kotse at bahay akong sariling akin.

Hindi discipline? Sundalo? Police? Sure ka lahat? I compare mo yang sarili mo, na civilian sa isang average na sundalo. How dare you say na hindi sila discipline. Wag mong lahatin ha, hindi mo alam hirap nila. Kakasuka ka, halatadong wala kang pag mamahal sa bansa. Hahahahaha

Well, kahit ano namang sabihin mo majority pa din ng tao gusto ng rotc. Cry and rant all you want, akala mo naman may magagawa yang pag hindi mo. Just focus on your own thing, focus ka sa noload noload mo. Since busy ka naman sa mga kpoperist hobby mo.

That's my opinion, if you don't agree to it. Then ikaw yan, you do you. I am satisfied and happy.

Thanks for the entertainment, kahit papaano nag enjoy ako sa discussion.

No matter what you say hindi mag babago opinions ko.

Adiós perra tonta...
 
di natin alam. wag natin kalimutan yung cuban missile crisis at iba pang mga seconds to nuclear annellation noong kasagsagan nang cold war.
That was a different story. Cuban crisis was the result of U.S. bringing it's nuclear arcenal to Russia's door step. Pyongpyang would never nuke South Korea if war broke out between them or they will be facing nuclear retaliation as well. Every countries who owned nuclear weapons will never dare of using it in war because they're all afraid of mutually assured destruction.
 
That was a different story. Cuban crisis was the result of U.S. bringing it's nuclear arcenal to Russia's door step. Pyongpyang would never nuke South Korea if war broke out between them or they will be facing nuclear retaliation as well. Every countries who owned nuclear weapons will never dare of using it in war because they're all afraid of mutually assured destruction.

ops mali, other way around. sinadya?

we will never know, maraming scenario na possible mangyari. not even experts can vouch N.K will never use nukes.

sure sure, but by the end of it all these leaders are humans too, they are also susceptible to foolish emotions that will lead them to pressing the red button.
 
ops mali, other way around. sinadya?

Nope. They're afraid of nuclear retaliation. Nuclear weapons were the reason we don't have another world war since it was invented. As what I have mentioned from my previous comment, they're afraid of mutually assured destruction. Nuclear weapons has been there to serve as a deterrent of a potential world war. They can fight a war without ending the world like, conventional warfare, economic warfare and cyber warfare.
we will never know, maraming scenario na possible mangyari. not even experts can vouch N.K will never use nukes.
Nope very unlikely.
sure sure, but by the end of it all these leaders are humans too, they are also susceptible to foolish emotions that will lead them to pressing the red button.

But they're not fool enough to end human civilization it's very unlikely.
 
di mo na gets sinabi ko. ok lang.

The cold war between U.S. and USSR was the era that world war 3 almost broke out but it was prevented because both countries were afraid of nuclear retaliation. Nope they're not fool enough to end the world. I repeat, nuclear weapons were there as a deterrent of a potential world war.
 
The cold war between U.S. and USSR was the era that world war 3 almost broke out but it was prevented because both countries were afraid of nuclear retaliation. Nope they're not fool enough to end the world. I repeat, nuclear weapons were there as a deterrent of a potential world war.

don't force it, hindi mo yan mukukuha sa isang basa lang. nagkamali ka nga na sabi mo dinala nang US ang nukes malapit sa Russia, pero ang Russia nag dala nang nukes malapit sa US. Cuba is located near Miama Florida.

of course anyone knows about Non-Proliferation treaty, its all good on paper. what i'm saying is, people are still people they are not like you who has high morals or have a happy go lucky life thinking the world would be alright. while these leaders are constantly under stress in there work, they eat bad news for breakfast, they sleep knowing that tommorow will have another problem will yet to solve.. like for example the issue with Putin, for now its all good and dandy he will not launch a nuclear missile but if soon if the West will continue to poke him and put Putin on the edge do you think he will not push the red button? Considering that Putin is an x-Soviet spy and hes been dreaming of the old soviet, he has no successor, hes people are slowly turning to the western side, he has a very stubborn opposition etcc..

What about the president of North Korea, do you think he has high morals like you?
 
Just like you said, di ba sabi mo may educational crisis? I just got lucky and pursue what will make me survive, being a scholar and studying while working. I did all of that because I have discipline.

Ikaw na mismo nag sabi "marami", hindi lahat. At marami ding nakinabang sa rotc. Hindi pwera marami kang kilala e masama at ganon na talaga ang imahe at kalidad ng rotc sa buong bansa. Napaka babaw mo naman mag isip kung ganyan.

Iba iba ang namumuno kada sector nyan, kung imperfect yung systema dati edi dapat i improve at pag aralan kung paano magiging maayos ang rotc. Napaka daling ideya hindi mo makuha.


Lahat na dadaan sa proseso. Lahat naman naka monitored at may internet na, dagdag gastos ka dyan pwe. Kung makapag gasta kayo ng mga concert nyo sa mga kpoperist nyo wagas. Hahahaha hipokrita


Kung maganda ang opportunity at financial aspect ng pagiging military at police matagal ko nang ginawa.

Paano mo maipaglalaban ang buhay ng pilipinas kung sarili mong pamilya hindi mo mapakain? Gets mo punto ko? Kaya wag mong tanungin kung bakit ito career choices ko kasi dahil sa mga choices ko, may kotse at bahay akong sariling akin.

Hindi discipline? Sundalo? Police? Sure ka lahat? I compare mo yang sarili mo, na civilian sa isang average na sundalo. How dare you say na hindi sila discipline. Wag mong lahatin ha, hindi mo alam hirap nila. Kakasuka ka, halatadong wala kang pag mamahal sa bansa. Hahahahaha

Well, kahit ano namang sabihin mo majority pa din ng tao gusto ng rotc. Cry and rant all you want, akala mo naman may magagawa yang pag hindi mo. Just focus on your own thing, focus ka sa noload noload mo. Since busy ka naman sa mga kpoperist hobby mo.

That's my opinion, if you don't agree to it. Then ikaw yan, you do you. I am satisfied and happy.

Thanks for the entertainment, kahit papaano nag enjoy ako sa discussion.

No matter what you say hindi mag babago opinions ko.

Adiós perra tonta...
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Dagdag mo na din yung doktor na pumaslag sa ataneo disiplinado yan?? Wag mo ikumpqra ang estado ng buhay ng iba sa buhay mo hindi pare pareho ang estado ng buhay natin sa mundo

Nakaabot yang mga yan sa ROTC noon ha

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Dagdag mo na din yung doktor na pumaslag sa ataneo disiplinado yan?? Wag mo ikumpqra ang estado ng buhay ng iba sa buhay mo hindi pare pareho ang estado ng buhay natin sa mundo

Nakaabot yang mga yan sa ROTC noon ha

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Ibabalik ko sayo, wag mong ikumpara ang buhay nila sa lahat ng tao, hindi pare pareho ang estabo ng buhay natin sa mundo. Iba iba ang tao, kung may pulis at sundalong hindi disiplinado ay hindi ibig sabihin nun lahat ng pulis at sundalo hindi disiplinado.


Hina mo naman par, paulit ulit kong sinasabi. Kahit mag attach ka pa ng mga articles dyan, hindi yan katunayan na lahat ng sundalo o pulis o kung ano pa man ay hindi disiplinado o walang morality. Don't generalize ha, hina ng sentido comun mo.

I don't intend to side with those people na minention mo, I side with those who are honest soldiers and police na ginagawa talaga nila ang trabaho nila. Don't see me as your enemy because we have a different views in life.

Maling mali mag generalize ng tao, napaka stereotipical mo naman kung ganun.

Galit na galit e, akala siguro neto okay ako sa mga taong pumapatay. I never mentioned that, paki intindi ng mga statements ko at wag kang mag assume.

Cute cute, laki ng pinaglalaban wala namang pamilyang pinapasan. Before you voiced out your concern make sure you made a considerable contribution to our country. Gawain mo lang mag critic at manuod ng mga kpoperist. annyeonghaseyo hahaha <3 <3
 
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