PHSino ang karapat dapat mamuno at maging leader ng pilipinas ngayong 2022?
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SINONG ALLEN KALBO
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Bakit?
Pero much better than the current system we have diba? I want to know more kasi about Federal-Parliamentary at open FDI, gusto ko mag dig deep pa tungkol dito. puro Personality Politics na kasi ngayon. If mag stick tayo sa ganitong system paulit ulit lang ang mangyayari. Band aid promises lang ang pinanghahawakan ng mga taoMadaling sabihin pero alam nyo ba kung gano to kahirap gawin? Iba ang governmental structure ng federal government mga papi. It will take us decades to stabilize if a move such as changing the very structure of our government is done. Kulang ang 6 years for this. It will change the very operation of the entire government from highest to lowest position.
I hope na gets nyo pano tumatakbo ang isang federal government kasi it involves economic and political repercussions.
basta ang alam ko yung mga solid supporters ni Leni ay yung mga gustong ibalik ang ABS-CBN. handang magbulag bulagan kahit na magiging puppet lang yung pambato nila. tumakbo dahil napilitan at para pigilan ang isang kandidato? Anong plano sa pilipinas? Bahala na? Basta wag lang maupo ulit mga Marcos? Goodluck satin 
Di naman sa pro leni ako pero parang ang weird ng point mo hahahahahaha
bananamilk
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Idk about a modern country na nag shift ng structure ng govt dahil lang gusto ng tao. Usually a shift in governmental structure nangyayari after a collapse or an independence from previous rulers. I'm not saying mali ka because you're right madaming flaws ang current constitution. However it is being remedied by new laws. Kung sana naghahalal tayo ng matinong congressmen at senators pero wala eh puro artista lang hinahalal ng pinoy . Tapos sisihin ang structure. Daming takot sa amendments or even a revision of the constitution pero daming gusto baguhin ang skeleton ng government. Sobrang gara ng gusto ni duterte na federalismo pero asan na? He must have realized it's going to be more painful kasi parang ayaw mo sa band aid solution on a festering wound so you would rather cut off the whole leg than try to salvage it ganun. Not realizing matagal na rehab ang need ng putol na paa at costly ang saklay mas costly ang prosthetics.
Eto nalang pinaka concrete example. Remember that the CORY government was a transitional government. A shift from a dictatorship to presidential republican. During marcos' era walang legislature siya gumagawa ng batas. Entire Cory's government appointees nya lang din. Nakatikim ng election (puro dayaan pa) FVR term na. Duterte is a Cory appointee right? At sobrang dissatisfied ka sa cory government. Well she had to make do with what was left of the government. Plus the fact that she herself is incompetent. Recipe for disaster ang EDSA to be honest. Basically replaced an incompetent kleptocrat with an even more incompetent housewife. So ayun nag hirap lahat except sa mga cronies ng aquinos and marcos lalo silang yumaman. Pilipino lang ang niloloko. Nagpapaloko nmn kasi. Real talk.
Kahit anong political belief mo you must recognize what economic history tells you, economic data do not lie. Hindi propaganda ang ang sharp decline ng PH economy tapos pag papatuloy ni bbm yung failed governance ng tatay nya? Brought to the peak tapos sudden freefall.The horror lol
Compare the highly lauded pnoy era. PGMA literally hard carried pnoy and even duts. She paved the way for the future sana kaya lang you wana go back to another marcos?
Haha Sige kay leni ka my libreng lugaw
Haha c bbm nag aral un ng militar
Kaya kailangan natin ng pro-reforms sa senado para mabago na ang sistema dahil nasa Senado ang tunay na laban at wala sa presidential seat. Sinubukan na ito ni Duterte pero nabigo.Idk about a modern country na nag shift ng structure ng govt dahil lang gusto ng tao. Usually a shift in governmental structure nangyayari after a collapse or an independence from previous rulers. I'm not saying mali ka because you're right madaming flaws ang current constitution. However it is being remedied by new laws. Kung sana naghahalal tayo ng matinong congressmen at senators pero wala eh puro artista lang hinahalal ng pinoy . Tapos sisihin ang structure. Daming takot sa amendments or even a revision of the constitution pero daming gusto baguhin ang skeleton ng government. Sobrang gara ng gusto ni duterte na federalismo pero asan na? He must have realized it's going to be more painful kasi parang ayaw mo sa band aid solution on a festering wound so you would rather cut off the whole leg than try to salvage it ganun. Not realizing matagal na rehab ang need ng putol na paa at costly ang saklay mas costly ang prosthetics.
Eto nalang pinaka concrete example. Remember that the CORY government was a transitional government. A shift from a dictatorship to presidential republican. During marcos' era walang legislature siya gumagawa ng batas. Entire Cory's government appointees nya lang din. Nakatikim ng election (puro dayaan pa) FVR term na. Duterte is a Cory appointee right? At sobrang dissatisfied ka sa cory government. Well she had to make do with what was left of the government. Plus the fact that she herself is incompetent. Recipe for disaster ang EDSA to be honest. Basically replaced an incompetent kleptocrat with an even more incompetent housewife. So ayun nag hirap lahat except sa mga cronies ng aquinos and marcos lalo silang yumaman. Pilipino lang ang niloloko. Nagpapaloko nmn kasi. Real talk.
Kahit anong political belief mo you must recognize what economic history tells you, economic data do not lie. Hindi propaganda ang ang sharp decline ng PH economy tapos pag papatuloy ni bbm yung failed governance ng tatay nya? Brought to the peak tapos sudden freefall.The horror lol
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Compare the highly lauded pnoy era. PGMA literally hard carried pnoy and even duts. She paved the way for the future sana kaya lang you wana go back to another marcos?
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The only reason I don’t hate BBM dahil sa track record niya sa Bangsamoro Basic Law and pro constitution & economic reform siya. Federalist din.
The current constitution for me ang nagpapahirap sa Pilipino, I dnt understand why Leni and her running mates are against reforming the constitution, Nagpapatunay lang na protektor ng Oligarchy ang partido nila. samahan mo pa ni Kiko na hinarang ang OpenFDI na makakapagbigay ng maraming trabaho at ni Diokno na against din sa FDI.
SINONG ALLEN KALBO
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LoreinCute
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Correct ka dyan brother!!!!!Mas ok ako sa lugaw kesa da magnanakaw at pekeng credentials
Funyarinpa
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e pano yung presidente natin ngayon ke lalaking tao e duwag sa gyera?
tsaka kung yan basehan mo... edi boto mo pala dapat si trillanes... naging sundalo yun e...
Euron Greyjoy
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Ganto daw gus2 nilang president pag nag ka gyera haha pang B0LDstar na pormahan hahahae pano yung presidente natin ngayon ke lalaking tao e duwag sa gyera?
tsaka kung yan basehan mo... edi boto mo pala dapat si trillanes... naging sundalo yun e...
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LoreinCute
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Inexplain na ito ni BANANAMILK...wag kc mag asta nagmamarunong na kala mo alam na alam ang takbo na ganun lang kadali sa isang pitik lang ng kamay e mababago na agad ang pamahalaan at gobyerno ng isang nation...kung ganito ang takbo ng utak ng bawat tao...eh di lahat pala ng tao pwdeng tumakbong presedente...
Euron Greyjoy
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Eto na yata pinaka obob na statement na nakita ko dito sa phcorner lmao. Anong taktika pinag sasasabi neto? sa tingin mo presidente ang nag plaplano ng mga strategy ng military? Nabawasan brain cells ko sayo idol
Ang federalism ay hindi naman talaga isang pitik lang at mababago na agad. Hindi ito binibigla
About funding?
Hindi naman necessary agad agad magkaroon ng multiple state courts. Pwede itong unti untiin.
bananamilk
Eternal Poster
Rather than tawagin mo siyang duwag not call him sensible instead? Makes sense he sold pride for benefits. Tbh san aabot ang pride mo if you were given the cards he has been dealt with? Damage mitigation is not cowardice.e pano yung presidente natin ngayon ke lalaking tao e duwag sa gyera?
tsaka kung yan basehan mo... edi boto mo pala dapat si trillanes... naging sundalo yun e...
We don't need reforms IMO. We need voters who dont go for popularity. Pero isa sa flaw ng demokrasya ang majority win kase kung ang majority, sa case ng pilipinas eh on the less/misinformed side. Kaya ako personally kahit I sound preachy at nagmamatalino I try to present what I think is information worth knowing. Kahit may isang makabasa at least nagsabog ako ng knowledge
. I don't seek to change your votes. Im just bored. About bbm and bbl. I can't remember na this is so boring kasi but if I'm not mistaken this version of bbl was declared unconstitutional dahil halos ideclare na as independent country ang BAR. May sariling sovereignty separate and distinct from the PH. Parang share boardmates nalang ganun share ng adress pero d nagusap or nag kikita? Is that the bbm you admire? Aba higit pa sa nagbenta ngbbuong wps yan
. Or was it that version na copied the previous one kaya hindi rin napasa kasi nag sayang lang ng papel? Constitutional change with a marcos at the helm? Jusko manginig ang laman mo jan. Baka unlimited terms to sawa no elections. Scrap congress and the judiciary ang mangyari. Oh wait. That was what happened during HIS father's era. Yeah sure baket nga nmn matatakot ang tao sa reforms.
Yung economic reforms? Nasan? Last I heard ipagpapatuloy nya yung nasimulan ni Duts at ng tatay nya? Is that it?
Foreign direct investment is a tricky subject dahil aminin mo man o hindi mejo poor ang pilipinas. We could be overwhelmed by foreign investors which is good for the economy however there is a high chance that this could backfire. Sobrang daming benefits ng employee ng pilipino sa totoo lang pero hindi yun ramdam ng simpleng juan. Compared to our asian neighbors our labor laws is pro labor. Pero nalulusutan parin ng mga big companies. Kawawa parin ang workers. Just imagine if foreign owners na, baka lumala lalo ang labor exploitation sa bansa. Food for thought lang nmn to pero baka lang
bananamilk
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Step by step talaga yan. There's bound to be a transition period. Parang brexit now ilang taon from proposal to the actual breakup tapos ngayon Europe is battling covid exacerbated by the effects of brexit. Mayayaman na bansa pa ya struggling with the change in economic policies. D pa yan structure ng goberno mismo.
You need money from the drawing board ilang consultants, advisers experts ang ihire plus staff at kung ano pa. This will cost money. Hindi pa ang sisimula gagastusan na natin yan. You don't expect people to volunteer?
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