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a s a r k a n a b a
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para mapagtakpan kasalanan ng isang tao, sila yung nagiging simbolo everytime na may magawa silang kasalan diyan takbuhan nila it means walang pinagkaiba relihiyon sa mga iniidolo ninyong kpop
-TsongKierro-
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[XX='Tee Hee, c: 719568, m: 845204'][/XX] grabe personalan na ata nangyayare dito kelan kaya isasara to hahaha
-TsongKierro-
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gantong ganto nalang muna ang gagawin hahahaha
-TsongKierro-
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[XX='Tee Hee, c: 719592, m: 845204'][/XX] awit kasi kailangan pa pagtalunan 
Rick C-137
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Haha. 
Smooth x chill
Forum Expert
What is the best religion? for you what is? If you are confused, try to read and understand the Islam. You will know their who created everything. Allah (swt) there is only one god and to be worship Allah(swt) and believe in his messenger Prophet Muhamma (s.a.w)
iputsmid99
Journeyman
Look up the definition of pretense, re-read my statement, and then maybe you'll catch my point.
Is it wise to assume that there'd be less conflict with absence of religion? You do realize that religion is a common point that unites different individuals and by abolishing it, there'd be more differences to settle, causing more cr@cks and eventually conflict.
My problem with your view point is that you reject and admonish the idea that religion is now an important foundation of our society and is good for the most part. You turn a blind eye on on its harmonious side and instead focus on the actions of its war-mongering extremists or corrupt minority just because it is aligned with your views.
I pity and sympathize with war victims but it was the blades, bullets, and bombs of soldiers acting under the command of powerful figures with their own hidden agenda that brought pain and death, not religion. Even with ancient crusades that pins it on religion, who's to say that it wasn't for the loot or territory that came with victory?
I had to look up the list of ten commandments to find the answer to your questions. Commandments 6 and 10 right? Though, this only shows that the church made an effort to discourage us from commiting bad things, regardless of the commandments' authenticity.
My family, relatives and some of my friends, who are believers unlike me, are living testaments on the positive influence of religion on the development of their moral compass. My time at a Christian school made me neither a saint nor a believer, but I at least learned not to go around calling people deluded (side-effect of panacea called religion according to you). We're not bullies or criminals or even mean. So no, I disagree that religion didn't help shape our attitudes and moral compass. We're also pretty civil and have gone a long way from being tribal, as you claim.
In the end, aren't all wars, even the crusades, simply a struggle for power rather than religion? Have you considered that these so-called crusades are caused by powerful, manipulative, and ambitious men who only use religion as pretense to rally men that can do their bidding?
You want something or someone to blame for this cruelty? Blame human nature. Men are capable of both methodical and senseless violence.
I believe that Religion is just a tool that can unite and divide the people depending on how it is used. The majority can continue to use it and enjoy solidarity and unity. The spiteful minority, like you who have extreme prejudice and can't respect the preference of others, is what divides us not the tool itself.
What about schools then? Similarly, they divide the masses (like religion) into the educated and uneducated which is also the root of other issues in our society like wage gap and other inequality issues. Should we also abolish this useful tool that helped us in making advancements and breakthroughs simply because it has "side-effects"?
In conclusion, if we all learned to respect our differences with each other (culture, belief, tradition, religion) instead of being a bigot, there'd be less things to fight over. We could at least agree on that, right?
Is it wise to assume that there'd be less conflict with absence of religion? You do realize that religion is a common point that unites different individuals and by abolishing it, there'd be more differences to settle, causing more cr@cks and eventually conflict.
My problem with your view point is that you reject and admonish the idea that religion is now an important foundation of our society and is good for the most part. You turn a blind eye on on its harmonious side and instead focus on the actions of its war-mongering extremists or corrupt minority just because it is aligned with your views.
I pity and sympathize with war victims but it was the blades, bullets, and bombs of soldiers acting under the command of powerful figures with their own hidden agenda that brought pain and death, not religion. Even with ancient crusades that pins it on religion, who's to say that it wasn't for the loot or territory that came with victory?
I had to look up the list of ten commandments to find the answer to your questions. Commandments 6 and 10 right? Though, this only shows that the church made an effort to discourage us from commiting bad things, regardless of the commandments' authenticity.
My family, relatives and some of my friends, who are believers unlike me, are living testaments on the positive influence of religion on the development of their moral compass. My time at a Christian school made me neither a saint nor a believer, but I at least learned not to go around calling people deluded (side-effect of panacea called religion according to you). We're not bullies or criminals or even mean. So no, I disagree that religion didn't help shape our attitudes and moral compass. We're also pretty civil and have gone a long way from being tribal, as you claim.
In the end, aren't all wars, even the crusades, simply a struggle for power rather than religion? Have you considered that these so-called crusades are caused by powerful, manipulative, and ambitious men who only use religion as pretense to rally men that can do their bidding?
You want something or someone to blame for this cruelty? Blame human nature. Men are capable of both methodical and senseless violence.
I believe that Religion is just a tool that can unite and divide the people depending on how it is used. The majority can continue to use it and enjoy solidarity and unity. The spiteful minority, like you who have extreme prejudice and can't respect the preference of others, is what divides us not the tool itself.
What about schools then? Similarly, they divide the masses (like religion) into the educated and uneducated which is also the root of other issues in our society like wage gap and other inequality issues. Should we also abolish this useful tool that helped us in making advancements and breakthroughs simply because it has "side-effects"?
In conclusion, if we all learned to respect our differences with each other (culture, belief, tradition, religion) instead of being a bigot, there'd be less things to fight over. We could at least agree on that, right?
Smooth x chill
Forum Expert
if you willing to know about the Islam, search now in the youtube. The Believer and try to understand carefully what Islam is.
kung logic mo TS hindi ka naniniwala sa Dios dahil yung Biblia gawa lang ng tao, e abay hindi na din ako naniniwala dito sa computer na gamit ko e gawa din naman ng tao to e, at lalong lalo na di ako naniniwala na tao ka , sure na sure ako hindi ka tao TS , kase alam ko na logic mo dahil walang Dios dahil di mo nakikita, so ikaw sure ako ayon sa logic mo hindi ka tao, sorry TS sinundan ko lang logic mo, tama ka panahon na ng teknolohiya, so ano naman kinalaman ng tanong mo kung ano silbi ng relihiyon,? nagtatanong ka ng relihiyon ayaw mo pagamit ang Biblia, nonsense ka TS , ayan kase apekto sa mga kaisipan na wala daw Dios, ikaw tanungin kita ano silbi ng paniniwala mo na walang Dios at walang silbi relihiyon.. ? dapat ikaw TS magisip.. pansin mo wala na sa logic kaisipan mo magulo, sa bagay yung mga hindi talaga naniniwala sa Dios magugulo na magisip,
homer_simpson
Eternal Poster
You said:
"In conclusion, if we all learned to respect our differences with each other (culture, belief, tradition, religion) instead of being a bigot, there'd be less things to fight over. We could at least agree on that, right?
"
Challenging a belief does not imply disrespect, you are simply trying to extract logical explanation out of what they believe.
Since it appears that you are a person who believes that religion is a good thing. Do you believe that there is a true, ONE religion that people should adhere to? If yes, what would that be? I'm guessing here that you'd say, definitely it's my religion/belief. And what can you say about other beliefs?
Or if somebody asks you, you seem to know what you are talking about and asks you "Can you please share with me what's your so I can follow it too?" Would you share it to him?
Until you realize that, there are gazillion people like you with the same reasoning. And that, is the beginning of tribalism.
"In conclusion, if we all learned to respect our differences with each other (culture, belief, tradition, religion) instead of being a bigot, there'd be less things to fight over. We could at least agree on that, right?
"
Challenging a belief does not imply disrespect, you are simply trying to extract logical explanation out of what they believe.
Since it appears that you are a person who believes that religion is a good thing. Do you believe that there is a true, ONE religion that people should adhere to? If yes, what would that be? I'm guessing here that you'd say, definitely it's my religion/belief. And what can you say about other beliefs?
Or if somebody asks you, you seem to know what you are talking about and asks you "Can you please share with me what's your so I can follow it too?" Would you share it to him?
Until you realize that, there are gazillion people like you with the same reasoning. And that, is the beginning of tribalism.
homer_simpson
Eternal Poster
You are not exactly wrong. It's the thought that gives rise to everything. Kung walang kang kamalayan (consciousness), how would you know that things exists or not? Therefore, it's your consciousness that allows things to exists.