🕯️ Traditions Silbi ng relihiyon?

[-FoMeNt-]

so ang point is? dimo naman nasagot eh

 

[-FoMeNt-]

so makasalanan ka aports kase nasa rules yan diba na dapat umattend ka sa mass every sunday and the fact na umattend ka meanng dapat makinig ka din sa preacher and sinabe mo nga na ayaw mo sa pare meaningn ayaw mo sa mga sinasabe niya yun ba pinapalabas mo?

 

[-FoMeNt-]

[XX='-FoMeNt-, c: 716380, m: 1741694'][/XX]
gumawa ka lang ng example tapos un na. heto kung nag babasa ka bibliya dahil sa kagagawan ng dalawng tao na si adan at eva sila ay pinarusahan at ang parusa ay sila ay pinaalis sa eden at sila ay mamatay at babalik sa lupa at magtratrabaho siya para sa kanyang pamilya at so damay din hayop? dba doesnt make sense ? so ano ang pinopoint mo sa example na sinabe mo? at dahil sa parusa kung bakit bumabalik ang patay sa lupa dba baka dmo na nman nagets contexto

 

[psj]

wala kang mapapala sa relihiyon hindi ang relihiyon ang makapag liligtas sa atin only God siya lang. sa mga hindi naniniwala sa Diyos okay lang yan alam ko darating araw magugulat ka nalang sinasamba mo na siya tulad ni Paul sa bible. marahil marami kayong tanong ngyon kahit man ako pero isa lang ang sigurado ako God is alive marami pa tayong hindi alam tungkol sa kanya sapagkat ang kaunawaan natin ay hamak na mas malayo kesa sa kanya kumbaga lupa at langit ganoon ang agwat kaya kahit anong research hindi talaga natin siya ma rereach. at about naman sa mga tanong niyo bakit may mga namamatay nagugutom lahat yan hindi kagustuhan ni Lord kay satanas yan. tanong naman bakit hindi pa talunin ni Lord si satanas bakit hindi nalang gawing mabait ni Lord lahat. isipin mo kung lahat ng tao mabait diba ayos sana? pero hindi eh para kay Lord kase love is choice, yan ang pinaka definition niyan para sa kanya its a choice. ginawa tayo ni Lord para mahalin at mag mahal yan ang purpose natin sa mundo so kung gagawin ni Lord lahat mabait so mawawala yung choice parang magiging robot nalang tayo? naka program lang para maging mabait edi parang walang sense si Lord na gegets niyo ba yung logic? isipin mo may aso ka sa bahay naka program lang gagawin kung ano gusto mo diba parang walang love doon unlike sa aso na normal na minsan galit pero kapag nag lambing ramdam natin? so ganun din yon hinahayaan niya tayong mamili , siya ba? o yung mga temporary sa mundo? edi kapag pinili mo si Lord choice mo yun diba at dahil pinili mo siya its means mahal mo si Lord diba? kase nga Love is choice.

 

[iputsmid99]

Religion, simply put, aims to provide us a greater sense of purpose to fulfill. It also helps in developing our moral compass; to differentiate good from evil.

Historically, we conveniently used it rationalize the irrational like with Creationism, a.k.a how the world came to be.

Each religion puts us on different yet also similar quest to reach their own version of nirvana.

With Christianity, we are ultimately guided to do morally good things and are even handed the ten commandments as guide to reach heaven.

The goal of Hinduism and Buddhism, in a nutshell, is to reach enlightenment and end the cycle of reincarnation which is the source of suffering. And how is that done? By amassing good karma or doing good things.

Although they have their own differences, most religions are the same in wanting us to follow the social norms, their own version of "good", that are present in places they influence.

The religious people that I know simply need religion to make sense of the ups and downs of life, and to have a purpose. Why do all these bad things happen? God-given trials they would say. Good things? Blessing. Misfortune upon someone? Karma or Justice. Death of a loved one? God's plan.

Besides, simply ceasing to exist on death seems depressing, no? On the other hand, their religions comfortingly set them on journey that promises them a reward at the end of the line. Exciting diba? Parang sa games at movies lang, may happy ending or something to look forward to.

So let them have it. Everyone needs faith to cope and to live. The question is where do you place your faith? God? Gold? Glory? Or maybe love? Wherever you choose to place your faith on, use it to fuel your will to live.

Appreciate the satisfying food for thought. Sarap sagutin kahit pagpuyatan. Mahaba at medyo philosophical pero may sense diba?

 

[homer_simpson]

On the other side of the coin, countless wars have been waged in the name of religion. People up to this days are willing to kill not just themselves but a huge number of people as well in the name of religion.

We have seen people who made fortunes out of ignorance of vulnerable ones.

By the way, the sense of morality is not an exclusive trait of "religious" people. People can live a moral lives and religion has nothing to do with it.

Most religions promise a wonderful ever-after when no one has come back from the other side and confirmed such claim. The most logical answer to the question of what's beyond death is - nobody knows. That's the most honest answer while not being preposterous.

In short, religion is nothing but a panacea, no different to panadol o alaxan - pantanggal ng pain (with additional delusion-inducing substance)

 

[iputsmid99]

I understand your point but as you said, opposite sides of the same coin. I stated the good effects of religion and you simply exaggerated the opposite.

Are people making fortunes at another's expense really a matter of religion? Is it not generally because of greedy and corrupt which are present in every level of the society?

Wars may be waged under the pretense of religion but we cannot deny the political and territorial advantages that they may bring to the conqueror. Therefore without truly being in the position of the perpetrator who incited those wars, how are we to know their real agenda? Are we to take the words of historians at face value? Are these crusades really as they seem?

I haven't claimed that morality is an exclusive trait of the religious for I know that it is intrinsic. Rather, I wrote that religion merely helps in developing our moral compass and nothing more.

I myself am a skeptic of most religious claims including the matter of afterlife for I only put my faith on facts. With that said, I merely tolerate their faith knowing that it could fuel their will to live a moral life. Unlike you, I simply do not rebuke them for the alternative is unnecessary and cruel.

You belittle religion for merely being a panacea. But is it not a good thing instead? Do the side effects really outweigh the benefits? If this panacea could help people in a way that your truth cannot, then how is it worse? Would you deny people something that can at least dull their pain and suffering in pursuit of your own truth?

To conclude, don't you think that your condemnation of your differences and of others' beliefs is what exactly breeds the pain that you pin on religion?

 

[Palmeras]

[XX='PHC-Subaru, c: 716303, m: 1553112'][/XX] kagabe pa 'tong nakikidawdaw sa usapan wala naman masabing matino

 

[limoto]

atheist si brother.....well mas ok na maniwala na may diyos kesa walang diyos first pag naniwala ka walang namang mawawala bagkus makakatulong ito para maging mabuting tao..so wala kang talo..isa lang naman tinggin ko sa mga atheist masyado sila matalino pakiramdam nila lahat kaya ipaliwanag ng siyensya pero sobrang dami pa ang di nila kaya ipaliwanag.....ayaw nila maniwala sa bible kasi gawa ng tao so dapat lahat ng libro ng siyensya ay wag nyo din paniwalaan kasi gawa din yan ng tao....kung ang bible ba ginawa ng isda maniniwala kayo??? natural na tao gagawa para maniwala ang tao....kung pinagmulan ng bible naman siyensya din naman ang ginamit para mapatunayan na tunay na mga tao ang nasa bible tulad nila ponsyo pilato...matinding saliksik lang talaga brother kung gusto mo maniwala sa bible..may mga tao lang talaga na ayaw mageffort para sa bible then sasabihin hindi totoo.

 

[sceixzmic]

mga apostles po nagsulat

 

[limoto]

nagsabi ang mangmang walang diyos....yan nakasulat sa bible lods mas másáráp talaga maniwala kasi totoo sinasabi ng bible.

 

[Niruuuuu]

To control the people.

 

[dummy01]

This TS does not know what he/she is talking about. I somehow feel the disappointment of your parents from you. Anyway, religion is a philosophical belief. It's impossible to address religion without tackling philosophy. It's not so obvious to naive, arrogant people like you how deep these religious ideas are. If you are asking what is religion to me seriously, I'm sorry to disappoint you but you won't get simple quick straight-forward answers from me because that question itself is serious enough it requires serious thinking to answer. But if you are asking just so you feel superior to others, which is likely the case, due to the knowledge you acquire from Science and your assumptions of naive fundamentalist idea of religion, then that's plain arrogant, kid. You know nothing about philosophy. You know nothing about history. You know nothing about the wisest people who ever lived. Otherwise, you won't dare saying or even thinking something like that. By the way, who are you to say that there is no God that even Science itself is humble enough to admit that it cannot be proven?

 

[AnnieLiezel1993]

sa tingin mo san ka pupunta, sa langit empyerno?

 

[epots]

mas makapang yarihan ang tao dahil sila ang may gawa sa lahat gamit lang ang salita. god doesn't exist kung walang tao

 

[PHC-YoY]

Yung tipong ginamot ka ng doctor,tas Diyos pasasalamatan HAAHAAH

 

[Haarp Machine]

ano silbi ng relihiyon??

(mas maganda papsicle habang binabasa mo to , masaya ka at walang halong galit sa ****** =), para with feelings hehehe winkwink)

hmmm para saken papsicles, isa syang gabay..
gabay para makapagisip ng tama,
gabay para sa maling pwede pang itama,
gabay para sa mga bagay na hindi mo maintindihan,
gabay para sa pang araw araw na buhay,

kaya kung ngayon hindi ka naniniwala sa relihiyon oh kung ano pa yan,, eh ok lang yun,, wag mo lang sana pabayaan sarili mo. maging mabait ka sa magulang mo, maging masaya ka sa mga maliliit na bagay, at maging masaya sa lahat..

relax lang papsicles wag ka din sana masyado mapako sa topic na ito. dami pa nangyayari sa paligid mo =) kung di ka naniniwala sa mga ganyan ganyan eh sana wag mo sya maghapon isipin, sarap kumain ng burger ngayon hehehe ayun lang

babuusshh

nagmamahal
-nakawalakasakalawakan-
(try mo basahin pabaliktad hehe meow)

 

[homer_simpson]

Let me quote you:
"
Wars may be waged under the pretense of religion but we cannot deny the political and territorial advantages that they may bring to the conqueror.
"
How about the victims of war. Does the advantages gained by the victors warrant a war, more so in the name of religion. If that is your belief, then let me ask you: pang-ilang utos nga uli yung huwag kang papatay? At huwag pag-interesan ang pag-aari ng iba?

Religion does not helps people to develop their moral compass. On the contrary, it results to people being more tribal, ie "our belief is the ONE. Yours is from the devil."

We humans have been fighting over for a lot of things since the beginning, be it for food, shelter, territories, sexual partner, opportunities etc in addition to religion. The world will be more peaceful if we have one thing less (ie, religion) to fight over.

 

[maverick09]

hindi ako na namimilosopo, tutal open forum naman eto, ang masasabi ko lang, hindi lahat ng science natin kaya tayong iligtas, oo nagagamot tayo, pero pagnamatay ka, kaya ka ba nyang buhayin?


hindi natin masagot diba? kasi tungkol na ito sa pangalawang buhay, san kaya tayo pupunta, LANGIT O IMPYERNO?


hindi natin malalaman hanggat hindi natin nakikita personal, kasi eto ang turo satin ng sciene "To See is To Belive"

pero ano ba ang sabi ng salita ng Diyos?

Kaya't ang paningin namin ay nakatuon sa mga bagay na di-nakikita, at hindi sa mga bagay na nakikita. Sapagkat panandalian lamang ang mga bagay na nakikita, ngunit walang hanggan ang mga bagay na di-nakikita.
2 corinthians 4 18

para sakin mas mabuti ng maniwala na may Diyos kaysa sa science, tama nga naman, maniwala tayo sa nakikita natin, e paano na pagnamatay ka ano kaya ang susunod na mangyayari? di natin alam at nasa huli lagi ang pagsisisi

tanong ko lang :
maliligtas ka kaya ng sarili mong kalakasan at kaalaman?

 

[Makudoski]

Taka rin ako sa mga pinoy galit sa mananakop(kastila) tapos tinangkilik yung relihiyon