🕯️ Traditions Prove me wrong

[michellian]

Interesting answer. but let me answer your questions as well. the bottle in the sand of course the waves washed it ashore. and putting that sequence on our discussion. The earth, no the Universe itself was created by the big bang, and it still is expanding. Thats the answer to "how was universe created". but lets look it like this if thats your reasoning, Then who created god?

What is your proof that the earth exist through big bang?
Magpasabog ka nga kung makakabuo ka ba nang something beautiful creation, something that is very ordered. Everything that exist including our planet was not a product of something accident happen it should have a creator who perfectly design this nature and the things we see today.

 

[michellian]

Again as mentioned above, the burden on proving something is on you. I dont have to prove god isnt real since theres nothing to prove. Pwede naman tayo magtagalog my existence doesnt prove god is real. I was conceive by my mom. Scientifically speaking egg cell plus ***** cell. By “god is always in our hearts” you mean it metaphorically?

Let me answer youas what the bible says,
Psalms 14:1
Only fools say in their hearts,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, and their actions are evil;
not one of them does good!

People always believe things when they can see it, as what thay said "to see is to believe", but i will tell you not all things you need to see for you to believe, for example: Do you believe you have brain? If your answer is 'Yes' then my follow up question, do you see your brain? What is the proof that you have brain? Do you believe that there is air? If 'yes' Do you see the air? So therefore not all things you need to see for you to believe.
I don't want an argument here, if you have brain don't search for someone to prove to you that God exist, instead search the truth for yourself because there's a lot of proof that you don't know yet.

 

[Shrek123]

What is your proof that the earth exist through big bang?
Magpasabog ka nga kung makakabuo ka ba nang something beautiful creation, something that is very ordered. Everything that exist including our planet was not a product of something accident happen it should have a creator who perfectly design this nature and the things we see today.

If our technology can re create the big bang then definitely id love to do that. But unfortunately even if we can, we wont since it will obviously kill everyone on this planet. Only an idiot would try that. Very ordered? Creation? Billion of years ago earth wasnt like this its a huge ball of magma. It just cooled down since we are on the habitable area of our solar system. How can you can that very ordered? Techtonic plates changes from time to time. Volcanoes erupts from time to time. Very ordered? Hahahahh you make a good joke.

 

[Shrek123]

Let me answer youas what the bible says,
Psalms 14:1
Only fools say in their hearts,
“There is no God.”
They are corrupt, and their actions are evil;
not one of them does good!

People always believe things when they can see it, as what thay said "to see is to believe", but i will tell you not all things you need to see for you to believe, for example: Do you believe you have brain? If your answer is 'Yes' then my follow up question, do you see your brain? What is the proof that you have brain? Do you believe that there is air? If 'yes' Do you see the air? So therefore not all things you need to see for you to believe.
I don't want an argument here, if you have brain don't search for someone to prove to you that God exist, instead search the truth for yourself because there's a lot of proof that you don't know yet.

Let me quote a bible verse for you as well. "If a man find a damsel that is a ******, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days" deuteronomy 22:23-29. Your god litterally says its okay to rape somone as long as you pay her father 50 shekels. You like that dont you?


Yes i believe in my brain. Yes i can see my brain. Perform a simple MRI and you will litterally see my brain. A proof is the MRI results with my brain on it. Yes i believe in air. I cant see the air but i can prove you that theres an air around you. Now. Tell me, do you believe in god? Can you see your god? Can you prove your god? nope. Well, regarding on your last statement, yes theres a lot of stuff we dont know yet. But the good thing is, we admit that we dont know it yet thats why we dont claim nor provide an answer, but you on the other hand claims about god created the universe without obviously the understanding of science. Its like giving an answer without thinking.

 

[BigBlueThunder]

No need to prove anything, may sari sarili tayong paniniwala kung bakit tayo nandito sa mundo, at kung bakit ka, ikaw, ako nandito. ikaw ang tutuklas sa sarili mo at sa mundong ginagalawan mo.

Kung ano ang katotohanan at hindi ♡

 

[jayendecastro]

Let me quote a bible verse for you as well. "If a man find a damsel that is a ******, which is not betrothed, and lay hold on her, and lie with her, and they be found; Then the man that lay with her shall give unto the damsel's father fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife; because he hath humbled her, he may not put her away all his days" deuteronomy 22:23-29. Your god litterally says its okay to rape somone as long as you pay her father 50 shekels. You like that dont you?


Yes i believe in my brain. Yes i can see my brain. Perform a simple MRI and you will litterally see my brain. A proof is the MRI results with my brain on it. Yes i believe in air. I cant see the air but i can prove you that theres an air around you. Now. Tell me, do you believe in god? Can you see your god? Can you prove your god? nope. Well, regarding on your last statement, yes theres a lot of stuff we dont know yet. But the good thing is, we admit that we dont know it yet thats why we dont claim nor provide an answer, but you on the other hand claims about god created the universe without obviously the understanding of science. Its like giving an answer without thinking.

As far as rape and any other sins go...i guess god just to watch ..

Imagine this... A 7yr-old girl being raped everyday, for years...

When the rapist finally gets caught, he will be punish..people will say "god will punish you...u'll burn in hell!"

Wudnt it be better if a loving and just god just stepped in before the whole ordeal even started.
Its a win-win eh...the girl wud've not suffered...and the offender would have not commited a sin... I guess that's god working his myterious way...

 

[Shrek123]

As far as rape and any other sins go...i guess god just to watch ..

Imagine this... A 7yr-old girl being raped everyday, for years...

When the rapist finally gets caught, he will be punish..people will say "god will punish you...u'll burn in hell!"

Wudnt it be better if a loving and just god just stepped in before the whole ordeal even started.
Its a win-win eh...the girl wud've not suffered...and the offender would have not commited a sin... I guess that's god working his myterious way...

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able to? Then he is not omnipotent. Is god able to but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he able and willing? Then why is there evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Why call him god?

God works in mysterious ways. Yes, that answer itself is bs. No offense. But thats bs. What you said was true anyways. You thought of that then youd be a better god than what we have right now. Atleast you will prevent something before that crime happened. If i were god i would definitely do that. Its a complete bs why do even people believe in a god whos a genocidal maniac?

 

[Shrek123]

No need to prove anything, may sari sarili tayong paniniwala kung bakit tayo nandito sa mundo, at kung bakit ka, ikaw, ako nandito. ikaw ang tutuklas sa sarili mo at sa mundong ginagalawan mo.

Kung ano ang katotohanan at hindi ♡

Well im not against your point of view. You have my full respect on that. What i cant accept is people who believe in a myth rather than what proof nor evidence is pointing out.

 

[jayendecastro]

Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able to? Then he is not omnipotent. Is god able to but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he able and willing? Then why is there evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Why call him god?

God works in mysterious ways. Yes, that answer itself is bs. No offense. But thats bs. What you said was true anyways. You thought of that then youd be a better god than what we have right now. Atleast you will prevent something before that crime happened. If i were god i would definitely do that. Its a complete bs why do even people believe in a god whos a genocidal maniac?

Yup.. thats a whole lot of circular bs. My point exactly

 

[Nietzscheese]

God, Buddha, The Force, Yahweh, the singularity, the unicity point – call it whatever you like – the result is the same. Science and religion support the same truth – pure energy is the father of creation

 

[NiarB31]

Quiboloy Follower to..

 

[Nokubi Nana]

Ok

 

[Arlertz]

The title of the post is "prove me wrong". The burden of explaining and proving something is on you. I know gods not real. technicalities applied i dont have to prove anything. while you on the other side believes that god is real. so you have to prove me youre right.

Hahaha takmau. Para babarahin mo lang yung mga isasagot sayo lol. Haynako kakatawa lang

 

[Shrek123]

Yup.. thats a whole lot of circular bs. My point exactly

I like how you think. Cheers mate. Hahaha

 

[Shrek123]

God, Buddha, The Force, Yahweh, the singularity, the unicity point – call it whatever you like – the result is the same. Science and religion support the same truth – pure energy is the father of creation

Science and religion never supported the same truth. Science is willing to be corrected when they are wrong. Science is willing to change the truth they know even if it was the truth they know for a decade or millenium. While on the other hand, religion teaches us that it was all created by god. Which is incorrect. Wheres the science in that?

 

[Shrek123]

Quiboloy Follower to..

Honestly i dont even know who quiboloy is.

 

[Shrek123]

Hahaha takmau. Para babarahin mo lang yung mga isasagot sayo lol. Haynako kakatawa lang

Thats what you call a debate/discussion. I cant accept an answer that doesnt prove anything. if youre just gon answer me with those typical bs then please provide me a better evidence supporting your claims.

 

[tetet172002]

If you don't believe maybe...

 

[Nietzscheese]

Science and religion never supported the same truth. Science is willing to be corrected when they are wrong. Science is willing to change the truth they know even if it was the truth they know for a decade or millenium. While on the other hand, religion teaches us that it was all created by god. Which is incorrect. Wheres the science in that?

Oh yeah? Science and Religion never supported the same truth? Are u sure about that? Cause the last time I checked,
Catholic Church first proposed the Big Bang Theory in 1927
by a Catholic monk, Georges Lemaître. Go google it.
And for the record, I never said anything about religion being CORRECT. In fact religion is utterly nonsense

 

[michellian]

If our technology can re create the big bang then definitely id love to do that. But unfortunately even if we can, we wont since it will obviously kill everyone on this planet. Only an idiot would try that. Very ordered? Creation? Billion of years ago earth wasnt like this its a huge ball of magma. It just cooled down since we are on the habitable area of our solar system. How can you can that very ordered? Techtonic plates changes from time to time. Volcanoes erupts from time to time. Very ordered? Hahahahh you make a good joke.

Hahaha... Can you explain the law of gravity? Everything has a law. Even the planet have a law that it follows that becomes ordered. If that was the cause of big bang theory how come? Is it not order? Volcanoes had also a law to be followed and i believe that it will not happen without the control of someone omnipotent God. The creator of all. How can you explain life? Do you believe that you are an accident when you exist in this planet? Do you believe that human evolves from money/apes, if that's what you believe, you are joking already. Make sense dude....