🕯️ Traditions militant atheist conflict over harmony

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for all we know atheist is different with agnosticism there are people who tries to label as atheism as a form of enlightenment which contrary to their beliefs to see is to believe.
many atheist believes that there is no creator which makes them no different than theist who claim that there is god. most importantly atheist tend to feel superior to their fellow human being because they believe that people who believes on a higher being is delusional and illogical which can be said to them also since there is no evidence that there is no creator.

there are other atheist that seems misguided what atheism really is. people tend to twist the real meaning of atheism which is in fact the rejection of any higher being or a creator.
delusional atheist tend to fight for equality (mostly liberals) with there analogy that every human being is equal which is rather presumptuous since we live in a world where leaders ,government and lastly family is the foundation of this world. we live where there is always a higher being before you.

family is You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.d by a mother and a father then a child or children.

there is always a higher being than the child and it's the mother and the father so in the end equality is illogical.
I wise man said "if there is no god why it is imprinted to our DNA to believe in a higher being?" -Michio Kaku
atheism is a glorified ego of a man who believes that there is no god which makes him none the wiser since he believes in a belief that has not been proven yet by mankind and worst this people have the audacity to ridicule people who believes in a higher being when they don't know there are ridiculous themselves clinging in a theory.

as a agnostic I claim to see both sides the good and the bad of the two sides.

for all I know all religion in this world is corrupt and evil that is my beliefs.
all religious leader only uses there religion for there own benefits. they use it to have power and control.
with that said I don't like organize religion.

atheist tend to question the validity of the teaching of a religion when they themselves to not read said teachings which makes them sometimes idiotic.
they believe that if there is no religion there will be a much more peaceful world when in reality country that practiced atheism had the most brutal and inhuman experiments that has done for the so called benefit of mankind. people are treated as commodity,and in a literal sense just sacks of meat if we follow things in a logical way. survival of the fittest.
 
I kinda agree..

Actually if you are to notice, statistic wise, napakababa ng bilang ng mga "atheist" na maging politician. Sa KABUUAN ng human existence at pagkakalatag ng Government sa BUONG MUNDO mula pa sa SIMULA ay iilan lang ang atheist. Baket? They found out na mahirap katrabaho ang mga atheist...

Which I kinda agree...

Sila madalas ung mabilis
mag "resign"...
Kaya mga minsan kung papansinin mo merong "religion" tab sa ibang bio-data default print out... Kasi kahit mga
higher up sa business alam to... You can always ask someone na businessman kung Sino mas prefer nila na kawork and MAJORITY will say they prefer "theist".

Argumentative din sila masyado at mahirap un kung nagtatrabaho ka sa corporate world. Everyone knows this. Kung meron kang ka-work na self proclaim atheist mapapansin mong sila ung left out or mahilig magsolo..... Hindi dahil sa "ayaw sakanila" ng mga kawork nila, kundi "ayaw nila sa kawork nila."


Marahil dahil to sa subconscious idea nila na - We hate God. We hate His commands. We can't take commands. Sila lagi ung against sa superior nila. Kasi nga they hate the idea that someone is higher than them... Maliit na bagay pinapalaki... OA sila sa mga bagay-bagay... At madalas may motto silang "I know better, g*go na b*bo boss ko."

Hindi mo din sila pwedeng kausapin ng one on one lalo na pag may kailangan pagusapan sa stats or attitude nya sa site... Kasi palage syang may sagot... Sa lahat.... Lahat alam nya... Like pano?? Tapos iisipin na nya na "everyone is against me sa office." Bawal sila kausapin........so bat kapa nagtrabaho sa office??

Kaya ung ibang atheist nagtatayo nalang ng business... O Kaya mga work at home... Freelancers.... Ganun... Common na Common to...


 
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I kinda agree..

Actually if you are to notice, statistic wise, napakababa ng bilang ng mga "atheist" na maging politician. Sa KABUUAN ng human existence at pagkakalatag ng Government sa BUONG MUNDO mula pa sa SIMULA ay iilan lang ang atheist. Baket? They found out na mahirap katrabaho ang mga atheist...

Which I kinda agree...

Sila madalas ung mabilis
mag "resign"...
Kaya mga minsan kung papansinin mo merong "religion" tab sa ibang bio-data default print out... Kasi kahit mga
higher up sa business alam to... You can always ask someone na businessman kung Sino mas prefer nila na kawork and MAJORITY will say they prefer "theist".

Argumentative din sila masyado at mahirap un kung nagtatrabaho ka sa corporate world. Everyone knows this. Kung meron kang ka-work na self proclaim atheist mapapansin mong sila ung left out or mahilig magsolo..... Hindi dahil sa "ayaw sakanila" ng mga kawork nila, kundi "ayaw nila sa kawork nila."


Marahil dahil to sa subconscious idea nila na - We hate God. We hate His commands. We can't take commands. Sila lagi ung against sa superior nila. Kasi nga they hate the idea that someone is higher than them... Maliit na bagay pinapalaki... OA sila sa mga bagay-bagay... At madalas may motto silang "I know better, g*go na b*bo boss ko."

Hindi mo din sila pwedeng kausapin ng one on one lalo na pag may kailangan pagusapan sa stats or attitude nya sa site... Kasi palage syang may sagot... Sa lahat.... Lahat alam nya... Like pano?? Tapos iisipin na nya na "everyone is against me sa office." Bawal sila kausapin........so bat kapa nagtrabaho sa office??

Kaya ung ibang atheist nagtatayo nalang ng business... O Kaya mga work at home... Freelancers.... Ganun... Common na Common to...

wala naman akong problema sa pagiging introvert kase isa rin ako sa mga yun eh. mahilig kase ako mag soul searching.kaya wala naman akong pake sa religion basta wag lang nila sakin i-force ang mga teachings nila. kadalasan kase kaya minsan ung mga ibang tao ayaw sa organize religion dahil pati buhay nila pinapakelamanan na kagaya ung iba balita ko sa ibang religion pag nag absent ka pupuntahan ka sa bahay at etc. hayaan mo sila maging curious sa isang bagay para mas lalo sila maging interisado wag natin sila apurahin. ang akin basta walang ginagawang masama or di ka ng kukucha ng kapwa or pumapatay dapat hayaan lang natin ung tao manahimik ng tahimik. minsan kase ang sobrang pakikipag socialize ang ugat ng pagiging materialistic minsan tignan rin natin ang mundo sa ibang angulo.
 
To TS....

"But...." 😁

Hahaba lang toh eh..pero not to answer any of ur claim just wanna call you out Mr. Call Center Slave na ur sentence construction is kinda hard to understand so excuse me if im missing some of the things ur actually trying to say...

And to that other guy...si "ipagdadasal ko kapamakan mo" theist.. well... Magreply ka na lang pag mababa na tama mo... Ur so full of it..

Pero go lang ..magbolahan pa kayong 2... Hahahahaha 😁
 
To TS....

"But...." 😁

Hahaba lang toh eh..pero not to answer any of ur claim just wanna call you out Mr. Call Center Slave na ur sentence construction is kinda hard to understand so excuse me if im missing some of the things ur actually trying to say...

And to that other guy...si "ipagdadasal ko kapamakan mo" theist.. well... Magreply ka na lang pag mababa na tama mo... Ur so full of it..

Pero go lang ..magbolahan pa kayong 2... Hahahahaha 😁

so matalino ka na dahil grammatically correct ka lagi? natatawa ako mr.civil servant na may god complex di porket nag e-excel ka sa english writing contest mo eh tama ka na. eh na ban lang ako dun sa forum nyo kaya di ako makapag reply. tsaka real time ako mag type di kagaya mo na may editor or proof reader dyan lol. dahil di ako naniniwala sa tamang spelling dahil ang mga kausap ko sa ibang forums na native english speakers wala silang pake dun. kayo lang mga so called "grammar nazi na asian naman na nag f-feeling matalino dahil tama ung grammars nila ang pinag tatawanan sa mga ganung forums kase feel nila try hard masyado ung mga ganun lol.

makikita mo na ung mga mahihina at pseudo intellectuals na mag try mag show ng dominance sa mga ganun petty na bagay kagaya ng spelling at grammar construction kung baga nag s-strawman AKA red herring na sila dahil alam nila na mahina sila deep inside dahil wala naman laman kung mga pinag sasabi nila. lol.

tsaka wag ka mag ad hominen masyado lalo kang na e-exposed lol.
 
wala naman akong problema sa pagiging introvert kase isa rin ako sa mga yun eh. mahilig kase ako mag soul searching.kaya wala naman akong pake sa religion basta wag lang nila sakin i-force ang mga teachings nila. kadalasan kase kaya minsan ung mga ibang tao ayaw sa organize religion dahil pati buhay nila pinapakelamanan na kagaya ung iba balita ko sa ibang religion pag nag absent ka pupuntahan ka sa bahay at etc. hayaan mo sila maging curious sa isang bagay para mas lalo sila maging interisado wag natin sila apurahin. ang akin basta walang ginagawang masama or di ka ng kukucha ng kapwa or pumapatay dapat hayaan lang natin ung tao manahimik ng tahimik. minsan kase ang sobrang pakikipag socialize ang ugat ng pagiging materialistic minsan tignan rin natin ang mundo sa ibang angulo.
INC un ... Hahaha.. ung pupuntahan ka sa bahay pag di ka nakaattend sa service nila... 😂
 
Wag kang magalala boss!!! Nerdy ignored mo mga sila pero sa kabilang banda nakakatulong naman ng malaki sa iba kasi nasusubok ka nila yan yong di mo alam na lihim na nangyayari sa mga post mo.
 
so matalino ka na dahil grammatically correct ka lagi? natatawa ako mr.civil servant na may god complex di porket nag e-excel ka sa english writing contest mo eh tama ka na. eh na ban lang ako dun sa forum nyo kaya di ako makapag reply. tsaka real time ako mag type di kagaya mo na may editor or proof reader dyan lol. dahil di ako naniniwala sa tamang spelling dahil ang mga kausap ko sa ibang forums na native english speakers wala silang pake dun. kayo lang mga so called "grammar nazi na asian naman na nag f-feeling matalino dahil tama ung grammars nila ang pinag tatawanan sa mga ganung forums kase feel nila try hard masyado ung mga ganun lol.

makikita mo na ung mga mahihina at pseudo intellectuals na mag try mag show ng dominance sa mga ganun petty na bagay kagaya ng spelling at grammar construction kung baga nag s-strawman AKA red herring na sila dahil alam nila na mahina sila deep inside dahil wala naman laman kung mga pinag sasabi nila. lol.

tsaka wag ka mag ad hominen masyado lalo kang na e-exposed lol.
Nope..never claimed matalino ako or that im grammatically correct lage "but" just calling u out lang sa construction mo so i can understand what you're saying.

And that agnosticism and atheism... I thot we addressed that already sa isang thread...u agreed pa nga.

And now ur presenting this argument na "pot and kettle" naman..

Yes ad hom ako for this particular post kasi im not seeking to win this argument. Just wanna get in ur skin now..😁 kakahiya nmang maging consistent with ad homs sa isang palamura na gaya mo..

And ikaw na 50/50 agnostic, for a guy who said his right in between eh u seem to be arguing in behalf of the theist a lot. 🤔 Why is that?? So that other half of u is the quiet type ba?? Completely opposite ng outspoken theist side mo?
 
Nope..never claimed matalino ako or that im grammatically correct lage "but" just calling u out lang sa construction mo so i can understand what you're saying.

And that agnosticism and atheism... I thot we addressed that already sa isang thread...u agreed pa nga.

And now ur presenting this argument na "pot and kettle" naman..

Yes ad hom ako for this particular post kasi im not seeking to win this argument. Just wanna get in ur skin now..😁 kakahiya nmang maging consistent with ad homs sa isang palamura na gaya mo..

And ikaw na 50/50 agnostic, for a guy who said his right in between eh u seem to be arguing in behalf of the theist a lot. 🤔 Why is that?? So that other half of u is the quiet type ba?? Completely opposite ng outspoken theist side mo?
A la Jekyll and Mr. Hyde iyan, hindi kaya? O talagang militang'nang theist lang? 😁
 
A la Jekyll and Mr. Hyde iyan, hindi kaya? O talagang militang'nang theist lang? 😁
Well obvious nman na he's not open to atheism eh... Sinabi ko na sa kanya non na illogical ang 50/50 stand sa agnosticism eh. Kasi at some point yung knowledge wud have to lean towards one thing..eh 50/50 daw sya kaya sya agnostic eh rooting for theism ang banat...
 
Nope..never claimed matalino ako or that im grammatically correct lage "but" just calling u out lang sa construction mo so i can understand what you're saying.

And that agnosticism and atheism... I thot we addressed that already sa isang thread...u agreed pa nga.

And now ur presenting this argument na "pot and kettle" naman..

Yes ad hom ako for this particular post kasi im not seeking to win this argument. Just wanna get in ur skin now..😁 kakahiya nmang maging consistent with ad homs sa isang palamura na gaya mo..

And ikaw na 50/50 agnostic, for a guy who said his right in between eh u seem to be arguing in behalf of the theist a lot. 🤔 Why is that?? So that other half of u is the quiet type ba?? Completely opposite ng outspoken theist side mo?

lol okay lang mag mura dahil sarcastic ka sumagot mr.civil servant at saka kung mang jump kayo ng di umaayon sa inyo eh para kayong swarm with matching side comments pa sino ba naman di maiinis at di magiging uncivilized nun?

tahimik ako when I'm outside socializing people because I feel tired talking at ayoko sa crowd

oo dahil ang 50/50 means I respect teachings of some religion pero di ako sure kung meron talagang diyos ang point ko is ung mga kasulatan ng mga ibang religion is quite good kung susundin yun ung point ko. di ako katulad nyo na sarado na isipan. dahil sine-separate ko ung people (the mob cultist) from the teachings of so called religions.
 
Well obvious nman na he's not open to atheism eh... Sinabi ko na sa kanya non na illogical ang 50/50 stand sa agnosticism eh. Kasi at some point yung knowledge wud have to lean towards one thing..eh 50/50 daw sya kaya sya agnostic eh rooting for theism ang banat...

dahil ang agnosticism is:

Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable

so in short usually agnosticism takes chances on something that won't hurt them.
for example para sakin di masamang maniwala na merong alien or di masama maniwala na may unicorn, dahil kahit anong kaka isip ko na meron chance na pwede nag exist ang unicorn wala naman ako sinasaktan dahil di parin factually proven na di nag exist ang unicorn. pero kung meron mag prove sakin na wala talagang unicorn edi magiging 100 percent na ako di maniniwala sa unicorn.
 
lol okay lang mag mura dahil sarcastic ka sumagot mr.civil servant at saka kung mang jump kayo ng di umaayon sa inyo eh para kayong swarm with matching side comments pa sino ba naman di maiinis at di magiging uncivilized nun?

tahimik ako when I'm outside socializing people because I feel tired talking at ayoko sa crowd

oo dahil ang 50/50 means I respect teachings of some religion pero di ako sure kung meron talagang diyos ang point ko is ung mga kasulatan ng mga ibang religion is quite good kung susundin yun ung point ko. di ako katulad nyo na sarado na isipan. dahil sine-separate ko ung people (the mob cultist) from the teachings of so called religions.
Well if im sarcastic eh ano ka pala??

U automatically associated atheist as "nangmomolestya ng mga bata at corrupt"

U think i just jumped in kasi i just simply dont agree?? Its beyond that... Acts ng kapwa mo theist yang inassociate mo sa atheist and with no basis to start with.

Then isasagot mo kasi sabi sa bible na ganto or ganyan...

Why do u keep quoting the bible if u say ur just torn right in between??

Sa atheism ang nega mo and isasabit mo na 'masama" ang atheist coz ur bible said so.

dahil ang agnosticism is:

Agnosticism is the view that the existence of God, of the divine or the supernatural is unknown or unknowable

so in short usually agnosticism takes chances on something that won't hurt them.
for example para sakin di masamang maniwala na merong alien or di masama maniwala na may unicorn, dahil kahit anong kaka isip ko na meron chance na pwede nag exist ang unicorn wala naman ako sinasaktan dahil di parin factually proven na di nag exist ang unicorn. pero kung meron mag prove sakin na wala talagang unicorn edi magiging 100 percent na ako di maniniwala sa unicorn.
We discussed this already...

Agnosticism - knowledge (u said so urself)
Theism/Atheism - belief

Depending on the KNOWLEDGE u have..you can either BELIEVE or NOT BELIEVE.

We are both agnostic in terms of knowledge. In terms of belief then im an atheist... As for you?? I dont know if ur really 50/50 kasi ur leaning towards theism.. so dont say ur the middle and ur open.

Tska ang unicorn never nagclaim na may ininspire silang books to supposedly be mankind's moral compass. Walang binoboast na power of creation ang unicorns..and certainly they dont ask for praise or worship which if u gave them the opposite eh paparusahan ka.. walang pake unicorn..
 
Well if im sarcastic eh ano ka pala??

U automatically associated atheist as "nangmomolestya ng mga bata at corrupt"

U think i just jumped in kasi i just simply dont agree?? Its beyond that... Acts ng kapwa mo theist yang inassociate mo sa atheist and with no basis to start with.

Then isasagot mo kasi sabi sa bible na ganto or ganyan...

Why do u keep quoting the bible if u say ur just torn right in between??

Sa atheism ang nega mo and isasabit mo na 'masama" ang atheist coz ur bible said so.


We discussed this already...

Agnosticism - knowledge (u said so urself)
Theism/Atheism - belief

Depending on the KNOWLEDGE u have..you can either BELIEVE or NOT BELIEVE.

We are both agnostic in terms of knowledge. In terms of belief then im an atheist... As for you?? I dont know if ur really 50/50 kasi ur leaning towards theism.. so dont say ur the middle and ur open.

Tska ang unicorn never nagclaim na may ininspire silang books to supposedly be mankind's moral compass. Walang binoboast na power of creation ang unicorns..and certainly they dont ask for praise or worship which if u gave them the opposite eh paparusahan ka.. walang pake unicorn..

alam mo ba ung jumper? ung mga nangunguyog like 4 vs 1. ayun ung jumper tignan mo ung mga street fights na meron nag jump.

tsaka kahit walang libro ang unicorn ang point ko dun is ang bible ay pwede totoo o hindi parang rin syang nasa unicorn category sabihin na natin nakaka impact pero base sa pag basa ko sa bible wala naman ginagawang masama ang bible kung meron kang ibabangit na tinuturo na masama ng bible post mo lang dito at sana 1 on 1 lang sana ang convo na walang side comment na wala namang ma aabag kagaya nung mga sumali dun sa other forum na puro si attack on my beliefs na wala namang counter argument.
 
alam mo ba ung jumper? ung mga nangunguyog like 4 vs 1. ayun ung jumper tignan mo ung mga street fights na meron nag jump.

tsaka kahit walang libro ang unicorn ang point ko dun is ang bible ay pwede totoo o hindi parang rin syang nasa unicorn category sabihin na natin nakaka impact pero base sa pag basa ko sa bible wala naman ginagawang masama ang bible kung meron kang ibabangit na tinuturo na masama ng bible post mo lang dito at sana 1 on 1 lang sana ang convo na walang side comment na wala namang ma aabag kagaya nung mga sumali dun sa other forum na puro si attack on my beliefs na wala namang counter argument.
Teka..anong platforrn are we using?? Di ba FORUM toh? Issue sau na 4 or more people are questioning your argument?? If gusto mo 1on1 then magPM ka sa gusto kausap.

So sarcastic, nangmomob kaya ur response is magmura?? So how is that different sa "egoistic" kamo na atheist??

Yang reasoning mo na di masama maniwala sa unicorn unless may mag disprove sau na wala talaga...how is that logic different from someone na di din naniniwala sa isang entity kasi wala panh nakakapagpatunay?? Hindi same pattern lang yan??

Kasi ano?? Nasa book..may book... May books about unicorns ..si spiderman nasa comic book din.

Pero kung maipaint mo ang atheism eh kesyo masama lang naidudulot. And mind you .sa mga bansa na di prevalent ang religion eh di un entirely about "god/no god".... Mas malalim ang ideology nun like marxism, communism, capitalism, etc... Atheism is an aspect that coincides with those ideology. Di yan 2-sided coin na no god or god lang.

So to be transparent lang.. are you an agnostic theist or not? Dont say agnostic lang kasi that doesnt establish wat u actually believe in eh.
 
Atheism ang consensus sa science at philosophy. Atheism ang pinaka rational na theological position at position ng majority ng scientists at philosophers. Ang atheism ay produkto ng Age of Enlightenment. Ang religion ay produkto ng pre-scientific age. Walang puwang ang religion sa science at modern society.
 
I kinda agree..

Actually if you are to notice, statistic wise, napakababa ng bilang ng mga "atheist" na maging politician. Sa KABUUAN ng human existence at pagkakalatag ng Government sa BUONG MUNDO mula pa sa SIMULA ay iilan lang ang atheist. Baket? They found out na mahirap katrabaho ang mga atheist...

Which I kinda agree...

Sila madalas ung mabilis
mag "resign"...
Kaya mga minsan kung papansinin mo merong "religion" tab sa ibang bio-data default print out... Kasi kahit mga
higher up sa business alam to... You can always ask someone na businessman kung Sino mas prefer nila na kawork and MAJORITY will say they prefer "theist".

Argumentative din sila masyado at mahirap un kung nagtatrabaho ka sa corporate world. Everyone knows this. Kung meron kang ka-work na self proclaim atheist mapapansin mong sila ung left out or mahilig magsolo..... Hindi dahil sa "ayaw sakanila" ng mga kawork nila, kundi "ayaw nila sa kawork nila."


Marahil dahil to sa subconscious idea nila na - We hate God. We hate His commands. We can't take commands. Sila lagi ung against sa superior nila. Kasi nga they hate the idea that someone is higher than them... Maliit na bagay pinapalaki... OA sila sa mga bagay-bagay... At madalas may motto silang "I know better, g*go na b*bo boss ko."

Hindi mo din sila pwedeng kausapin ng one on one lalo na pag may kailangan pagusapan sa stats or attitude nya sa site... Kasi palage syang may sagot... Sa lahat.... Lahat alam nya... Like pano?? Tapos iisipin na nya na "everyone is against me sa office." Bawal sila kausapin........so bat kapa nagtrabaho sa office??

Kaya ung ibang atheist nagtatayo nalang ng business... O Kaya mga work at home... Freelancers.... Ganun... Common na Common to...
Sa modern, civilized societies gaya ng Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand baliw ang tingin sa mga naniniwala sa diyos.
 
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