🕯️ Traditions WALK the TALK: are you really practicing what you are preaching?

[jungard]

Kung hindi ka gugutumin, like the people who suffered famine, hindi nila malalaman na kelangan pala nila ng foods at shelter. Kung hindi ka bibigyan ng saki, hindi mo malalaman na hindi ka si superman o wolverine. What an idiotic test!

lahat wala akong sagot. evenif God did it He is still my God. do you know why we both dont have those sufferings? because God saved us until now. I cannot put my feet on their shoes to have my empathy. kahit sino naman hindi gugustuhin yun. pero kaming believers we dont want to be angry to God instead we still believe in the end we will be with Him as same as now as we are still save.

 

[homer_simpson]

lahat wala akong sagot. evenif God did it He is still my God. do you know why we both dont have those sufferings? because God saved us until now. I cannot put my feet on their shoes to have my empathy. kahit sino naman hindi gugustuhin yun. pero kaming believers we dont want to be angry to God instead we still believe in the end we will be with Him as same as now as we are still save.

Let's say "we both dont have those sufferings?". Do I have thank your god for that, and just lend my pity on the poor ones? What makes us so special? Why others so unlucky? Roll of a dice, perhaps?

 

[Valiantarn]

Let's say "we both dont have those sufferings?". Do I have thank your god for that, and just lend my pity on the poor ones? What makes us so special? Why others so unlucky? Roll of a dice, perhaps?

God is a God we cannot question him what he is doing, wether he choose you to be lucky or unlucky its up to him.

 

[homer_simpson]

My last post is a follow-up to your previous post on which you stated

""we both dont have those sufferings?"

which seems to imply that we both have something to thank for. Ngayun na ini-refute ko at sinabi ko na -- is that something I have to thank your god for? Bigla kang kumabig at sinabi na "God is a God we cannot question him what he is doing, wether he choose you to be lucky or unlucky its up to him.". Ano na nangyari sa una mong argument which is: ""we both dont have those sufferings?"

 

[Valiantarn]

My last post is a follow-up to your previous post on which you stated

""we both dont have those sufferings?"

which seems to imply that we both have something to thank for. Ngayun na ini-refute ko at sinabi ko na -- is that something I have to thank your god for? Bigla kang kumabig at sinabi na "God is a God we cannot question him what he is doing, wether he choose you to be lucky or unlucky its up to him.". Ano na nangyari sa una mong argument which is: ""we both dont have those sufferings?"

Oops better read carefully its not mine jungard said it

 

[jayendecastro]

God is a God we cannot question him what he is doing, wether he choose you to be lucky or unlucky its up to him.

Why cant he be questioned?? Db he's the one manipulating our lives? Dont we atleast have a say or even just a tiny room for questioning why are lives are like how it is??

Why cant we question him?? Because he gave us our lives?? So he chose to give us lucky or unlucky lives and expects us to just take what he'll give??

He let us be "cursed" with a sin which he allowed to happen and continuously "test" us throughout our lifetime with the expectation of gratitude and that we will love him and only him otherwise he'll punish us even more?? Thats messed up

 

[jayendecastro]

lahat wala akong sagot. evenif God did it He is still my God. do you know why we both dont have those sufferings? because God saved us until now. I cannot put my feet on their shoes to have my empathy. kahit sino naman hindi gugustuhin yun. pero kaming believers we dont want to be angry to God instead we still believe in the end we will be with Him as same as now as we are still save.

He saved us from where?? The mistakes that he allowed to happen??

Why do u still wanna be with a creator like that?? And what do expect to be doing with him sa heaven or werever that place might be?

 

[Valiantarn]

Why cant he be questioned?? Db he's the one manipulating our lives? Dont we atleast have a say or even just a tiny room for questioning why are lives are like how it is??

Why cant we question him?? Because he gave us our lives?? So he chose to give us lucky or unlucky lives and expects us to just take what he'll give??

He let us be "cursed" with a sin which he allowed to happen and continuously "test" us throughout our lifetime with the expectation of gratitude and that we will love him and only him otherwise he'll punish us even more?? Thats messed up

He cant be questioned because he is a God, he made us. Were only a creation and he is a God. In reality we dont have rights to question him, just because you think that its messed up doesnt gave us a right to question him. Anu bang magagawa ng question natin or anything na sa tingin natin unfair wether what do we think of him. If na decide na niya kung anung gawin niya do we have a power to stop him? By just questioning him? And if ever na may rights man tayu na I question siya I think ita better na kilalanin muna natin talaga siya before we question him.

 

[Valiantarn]

He saved us from where?? The mistakes that he allowed to happen??

Why do u still wanna be with a creator like that?? And what do expect to be doing with him sa heaven or werever that place might be?

Its either of the two you choose heaven or hell. So saan ka mapupunta if hindi mo gustong ma save if mamatay na isang tao.

 

[homer_simpson]

He cant be questioned because he is a God, he made us. Were only a creation and he is a God. In reality we dont have rights to question him, just because you think that its messed up doesnt gave us a right to question him. Anu bang magagawa ng question natin or anything na sa tingin natin unfair wether what do we think of him. If na decide na niya kung anung gawin niya do we have a power to stop him? By just questioning him? And if ever na may rights man tayu na I question siya I think ita better na kilalanin muna natin talaga siya before we question him.

With that reasoning, you sound like you are making yourselves futile and imprisoning yourselves in chain.

 

[Valiantarn]

With that reasoning, you sound like you are making yourselves futile and wrapping yourselves in chain.

Well thats my opinion, the way you refute also is not on a standard argumentation so if you say that where the same.

 

[jayendecastro]

Its either of the two you choose heaven or hell. So saan ka mapupunta if hindi mo gustong ma save if mamatay na isang tao.

You said that "god has a plan" and things "has to happen".

If you say na i have the choice pala then it was never planned in the first place.

Pero if its already planned, including the choices i will make then those were not really choices.

Imaginary lang ung choice kasi planned na.

Or

Its up to me and god's plan is not so divine kung i have the power to change it.

 

[Valiantarn]

You said that "god has a plan" and things "has to happen".

If you say na i have the choice pala then it was never planned in the first place.

Pero if its already planned, including the choices i will make then those were not really choices.

Imaginary lang ung choice kasi planned na.

Or

Its up to me and god's plan is not so divine kung i have the power to change it.

Yup tama ka its up to you wether you believe in Jesus and be save at the end, malalaman lang natin sa huli.

 

[jungard]

Let's say "we both dont have those sufferings?". Do I have thank your god for that, and just lend my pity on the poor ones? What makes us so special? Why others so unlucky? Roll of a dice, perhaps?

it's really difficult when you debate with someone who is sirado yun puso. what we believers' stand and as a a pinoy saying "nasa tao ang gawa, nasa diyos ang awa". every struggles are result of our human past actions and not just God's decision. God is there to guide us and to make us humble na yun mercy nya will help us everyday and ma lessen yun burden natin. well i respect your life's decision, but again PRIDE yan mga paps. you know what's the solution? HUMILITY

 

[homer_simpson]

it's really difficult when you debate with someone who is sirado yun puso. what we believers' stand and as a a pinoy saying "nasa tao ang gawa, nasa diyos ang awa". every struggles are result of our human past actions and not just God's decision. God is there to guide us and to make us humble na yun mercy nya will help us everyday and ma lessen yun burden natin. well i respect your life's decision, but again PRIDE yan mga paps. you know what's the solution? HUMILITY

Let me cite you this:
- pinoys are one of the most religious people in the world. Agree? Yes/No?
- "nasa tao ang gawa, nasa diyos ang awa" has been the pinoy mantra for millenia.

With those premises, nakikita mo ba na tumalab na ang "nasa tao ang gawa, nasa diyos ang awa"? Do pinoys look blessed to you? Yes/No?

It is not HUMILITY. It is FUTILITY.

 

[Valiantarn]

Let me cite you this:
- pinoys are one of the most religious people in the world. Agree? Yes/No?
- "nasa tao ang gawa, nasa diyos ang awa" has been the pinoy mantra for millenia.

With those premises, nakikita mo ba na tumalab na ang "nasa tao ang gawa, nasa diyos ang awa"? Do pinoys look blessed to you? Yes/No?

It is not HUMILITY. It is FUTILITY.

Iba naman kasi ang religious person sa taong may true relationship kay God. You cant say its futility if you didnt experience it in the first place your just basing with it others.

 

[jayendecastro]

it's really difficult when you debate with someone who is sirado yun puso. what we believers' stand and as a a pinoy saying "nasa tao ang gawa, nasa diyos ang awa". every struggles are result of our human past actions and not just God's decision. God is there to guide us and to make us humble na yun mercy nya will help us everyday and ma lessen yun burden natin. well i respect your life's decision, but again PRIDE yan mga paps. you know what's the solution? HUMILITY

So its appealing to your emotion kasi he's merciful and he guides u..

Is he really that merciful?? Is he really guiding people and teaching them humility by giving them struggles?

What about cancers in children??

Cancer is a leading cause of death for children and adolescents around the world and approximately 300,000 children aged 0 to 19 years old are diagnosed with cancer each year.

• Every day, 43 children are diagnosed with cancer.
• 12% of children diagnosed with cancer do not survive.
• The average age of children diagnosed is six.
• More than 40,000 children undergo treatment for cancer each year.
• 60% of children who survive cancer suffer You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., such as infertility, heart failure and secondary cancers

What kind of mercy are u teaching a 6-yr old child with cancer? Yung pain ng treatment nea. And if the kid survived eh possible pa ding may effects sa paglaki nea ung cancer nea or magremission sya. Struggles?? Pano hindi kapa marunong magstruggle for "stars" or grades sa school eh nagsstruggle ka na to live??

May kasalanan sila?? Ano??

Maybe u will say ang cancer naman ay namamana din talaga.. yes..mere 5 to 10% of cancers are inherited.

MGA SARADO ANG PUSO NAMIN?

PUSO??

Ive seen first hand kung ano epekto at pagdudusa ng isang taong may cancer, pati sa mga taong nakapaligid sa kanya. Ive seen it...nakakadurog ng PUSO yan...sobra.

Tingin mo di pinagdadasal na gumaling mga yan?? Na maiwasan ung paghihirap??? Naririnig ba yan ni god??

U know wat actually helps people na nagsSTRUGGLE sa mga ganan?? Science, medicine.

 

[jayendecastro]

Iba naman kasi ang religious person sa taong may true relationship kay God. You cant say its futility if you didnt experience it in the first place your just basing with it others.

Have all of ur prayers been granted by god?

 

[homer_simpson]

Iba naman kasi ang religious person sa taong may true relationship kay God. You cant say its futility if you didnt experience it in the first place your just basing with it others.

Based on that statement and the current abysmal situation of our nation, minuscule number of pinoys must have " true relationship kay God". Nasaan na ang epekto ng "nasa tao ang gawa, nasa diyos ang awa"?

 

[Valiantarn]

Based on that statement and the current abysmal situation of our nation, minuscule number of pinoys must have " true relationship kay God". Nasaan na ang epekto ng "nasa tao ang gawa, nasa diyos ang awa"?

When you will have a true relationship God, you will be change, then after you change it will be natural to you do act the good things. Thus relationship and action thus not oppose each other but they are coexisent with each other.