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1. God
2. Maging kagaya lang ng karniwang tao, pero who knows? Kasali lang naman ako sa nêtflïx ng Diyos (God's plan)
3. Ok lang, pero syempre tao ako kaya maghahangad ako ng mas marami
4. Ayoko, pero syempre napipilitan lang
5. Because an old compilation of prolly accurate historical records said so
6. Some being who enjoys massacre ( bad para sa atin pero tama sa kanya ) and worship
7. yôutubê pero medyo biased, pero I think kaya ko naman ihiwalay
8. My faith is filled with doughts and questions, so I told myself, "Why the f*ck am I relying to these appointed ministers/pastors when I can piece the puzzle myself?" I know that they're appointed or some sht but the bible can be read by anyone so why not? Plus I am not spreading my word, I am only bringing doughts and questions to a rest
9. "God, what the f**k?"
10. Not really, takot lang ako sa endless torture kaya napilitan ako, pati na rin ang karamihan sa mga kapatid ko sa pananampalataya.
11. No, eventuallly mapapagod din ang Diyos lol
12. Yuup!
13. Because a prolly historically accurate compilation of prolly holy scriptures said so xD!
14. Outside God's reach.
15. Having fake free will and living without a valuable purpose for my creators.
16. A joke and God's nêtflïx
17. Sexual Attraction
18. Because there's no other option available right now.
19. My religion says that we'll be saved kung kasali kami sa religion namin hanggang kamatayan at mabait dw kami. So asked, "What? Pano naman nangyari yun?" kaya nakinig ako sa mga turo nila and minsan mismong turo nila ay nagcocontradict. Natuto ako maghiwalay ng religous poison at biblical facts, diyan magsimula.
20. Seeker

Thanks for answering those question. Akala ko di mo sasagutin. Thanks talaga.

Hindi ko na iisa-isahin Magiging mahaba lang to kung ganun.

Bibigyan nalang Kita ng generalized answer.

Ang rason kung baket ako nagtanong ay for you to evaluate your own self. Napansin mo bang "bible based" lahat ng tanong ko at "bible based" din Ang mga sagot mo? Hindi ka man lang sumagot sa tanong na patungkol sa ibang religion. This will narrow your scope OR this will not make you a "seeker". This will make you a "believer still but with agony about life, death and sufferings". Coincidence? Guess not.

Nagsimula ka sa pagsagot na you want to be God yet you also ask "What the ****"? Dyan naging mas elevated ung problema mo about your self. You are starting to define your own definition of good and bad. You wanted to make a better world sa lahat. Lalo nitong nahighlight yung agony mo about sa life,death and sufferings.

Good point na naniniwala ka padin na may Diyos. At least you are not an atheist. Which is I firmly believe na mas illogical.

Nung gumagamit ka ng terms na Netflix lang tayo ng Diyos, He enjoys suffering and tayo ang dapat magadjust, you are NOT looking at it in a broader perspective. Here a simple thing to consider, Kung ever knowing ang Diyos, sa tingin mo di Nya Alam na may makakaisip nyan? Sa tingin mo ba ikaw ang una at huling nakaisip nyan? Hindi. Pero Kung Powerful Sya as a God, baket buhay padin kayo? I mean, kung papalitan natin ang equation at IKAW Ang magiging DIYOS, will you just kill people who are being blasphemous sayo? I mean, Netflix mo Lang nmn sila. Mnanatili Kang Diyos kahit walang tao. Walang casualty sayo. Tama? Pero bat di ginagawa Yan Ng Diyos? What do you think?

Heaven is a choice. Hell is a choice. You are given the FREE GIFT of choosing but NOT the gift of CHANGING THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR CHOICE.

Normal matakot. Walang di takot sa Diyos. Sabi nga, Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Pero Kung iisipin mo, at Kung babasahin mo, sa bible (sorry but I just need to give an example) ang worship dun ay correlated sa love. Since Hindi naman nila nakikita ang Diyos, the ONLY way to ACKNOWLEDGE His existence ay through worship. It's a way of SHOWING people that they are "grounded". At Kung makipagusap man ang Diyos sakanila, it is ALWAYS full of love and compassion. Oo, minsan may parusa pero way un to show na pwede magbago, parang ganito, "warningan Kita ngayon, pag inulit mo papaluin kita. Pag inulit mo ulit mamatay kana dahil sa katangahan mo." Seryoso. Majority ng namatay sa bible dahil sa di nila pakikinig sa warning.

May problem ka sa religion mo. I should know Kasi ilang beses mong pinasok ang religion mo sa sagot mo. I will tell you a plain truth. WALANG PERPEKTONG RELIGION. LAHAT SILA SASABIHING NASA KANILA ANG SALVATION. BUT THEY ARE ALL FLAWED. Ang INC ay malayo sa theological level ng bible. I should know, natapos ko nang basahin ang bible from cover to cover , wala ung mga "prophesy" na tinuturo nila dun. Ewan, pakiramdam ko gumagawa nalang sila Ng sarili nila. At dahil nga hindi grounded ang "faith" mo in a theological level, you became like that.

Alam mo. Nakikita ko ang dating ako sayo. ExMem ako ng INC. Handog ako. After college nagbigay ako nang sulat saying that I no longer believe in their faith. Drastic move oo, pero pakiramdam ko mas kilala ko na Diyos ko.

 

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But here's the problem. If I die and there is no heaven and no afterlife, then I wouldn't know hence no real casualty. But if you die and there is heaven/hell/afterlife then you will be facing another problem.

You will miss a chance to correct things. Those mistakes you did before that keeps you awake every night will remain a mistake.

Sayang.

As an atheist, I hear that quite often as the justification of theists for believing in god but here's the thing, we already accepted that we will become nothing when we die. What happens then is a separate matter from when we were alive. No regrets.

What are the odds that heaven and hell might exist but with a different god? You can't be sure until you actually made it there.

 

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As an atheist, I hear that quite often as the justification of theists for believing in god but here's the thing, we already accepted that we will become nothing when we die. What happens then is a separate matter from when we were alive. No regrets.

What are the odds that heaven and hell might exist but with a different god? You can't be sure until you actually made it there.

You can always use those as perfectly as you wanted it to be but that does not prove anything.
I mean, let's be real and honest. Given a situation people will ALWAYS choose something better. For death is NEVER a better option for atheist cause hey, you still fear it. Right?

Yes,we will not know it until we went there but what will be the casualty if you believe that there is afterlife? You will have anxiety. You will hope and will try, you might fail but at least you tried. And if you don't believe? You will have the agony of being stagnant. You no longer crave for change, you won't take risk. Cause you already surrendered with the idea that you can no longer change the past, you cant change who you are so why change the future?

I will still choose my option of fighting.

 

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"Binigyan ng buhay para magsilbi sa Diyos hanggang sa afterlife." Napaka lungkot ng katagang iyan. Kung ako sayo TS mgpakasaya ka nalang sa iyong buhay. Huwag mong hayaan manipulahin ka ng iyong sariling pang-unawa(isipan) na ininjekan ng kung ano-anong fictional(matatawag mo ito sa ganito) ng rilihiyon sayo. Sila ang nagbigay "takot" sayo at napaka dami pa sana ng masasayang pagkakataon kung wala ka lang nito.

 

[S01T004718]

You can always use those as perfectly as you wanted it to be but that does not prove anything.
I mean, let's be real and honest. Given a situation people will ALWAYS choose something better. For death is NEVER a better option for atheist cause hey, you still fear it. Right?

We fear for untimely death, when we still have things we want to do but unable to. We will have regrets but we also acknowledge that nothing else can be done and leave the rest to the living.

Yes,we will not know it until we went there but what will be the casualty if you believe that there is afterlife? You will have anxiety. You will hope and will try, you might fail but at least you tried. And if you don't believe? You will have the agony of being stagnant. You no longer crave for change, you won't take risk. Cause you already surrendered with the idea that you can no longer change the past, you cant change who you are so why change the future?

Acknowledging that you only have one life can be your reason to change. People around you - family and friends, can be your reason to change. You want to do everything you can while you're still alive.

 

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We fear for untimely death, when we still have things we want to do but unable to. We will have regrets but we also acknowledge that nothing else can be done and leave the rest to the living.



Acknowledging that you only have one life can be your reason to change. People around you - family and friends, can be your reason to change. You want to do everything you can while you're still alive.

1. "We fear untimely death" which will also tell that you still fear death, period. And what do you mean by untimely? Are you expecting to have long life? By what standards? What governs that idea that someone death is "untimely" or "not untimely"? In what sense can you say that? So if a person die young it's untimely then? So the older you are the more timely your death is? Are you believing that people has purpose in life? Or you will say that it's timely if the person then choose to die? So suicides are timely death? Can you define for me what "untimely" is in an atheistic pov.

2."Acknowledging that you only have one life can be your reason to change." Then why is it that as per statistic, a GOOD NUMBER of atheist are suicidal, drug and alchol abusive and are battling mental health disorder? Is that for the "better"? Is that "change"?

 

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Thanks for answering those question. Akala ko di mo sasagutin. Thanks talaga.

Hindi ko na iisa-isahin Magiging mahaba lang to kung ganun.

Bibigyan nalang Kita ng generalized answer.

Ang rason kung baket ako nagtanong ay for you to evaluate your own self. Napansin mo bang "bible based" lahat ng tanong ko at "bible based" din Ang mga sagot mo? Hindi ka man lang sumagot sa tanong na patungkol sa ibang religion. This will narrow your scope OR this will not make you a "seeker". This will make you a "believer still but with agony about life, death and sufferings". Coincidence? Guess not.

Nagsimula ka sa pagsagot na you want to be God yet you also ask "What the ****"? Dyan naging mas elevated ung problema mo about your self. You are starting to define your own definition of good and bad. You wanted to make a better world sa lahat. Lalo nitong nahighlight yung agony mo about sa life,death and sufferings.

Good point na naniniwala ka padin na may Diyos. At least you are not an atheist. Which is I firmly believe na mas illogical.

Nung gumagamit ka ng terms na nêtflïx lang tayo ng Diyos, He enjoys suffering and tayo ang dapat magadjust, you are NOT looking at it in a broader perspective. Here a simple thing to consider, Kung ever knowing ang Diyos, sa tingin mo di Nya Alam na may makakaisip nyan? Sa tingin mo ba ikaw ang una at huling nakaisip nyan? Hindi. Pero Kung Powerful Sya as a God, baket buhay padin kayo? I mean, kung papalitan natin ang equation at IKAW Ang magiging DIYOS, will you just kill people who are being blasphemous sayo? I mean, nêtflïx mo Lang nmn sila. Mnanatili Kang Diyos kahit walang tao. Walang casualty sayo. Tama? Pero bat di ginagawa Yan Ng Diyos? What do you think?

Heaven is a choice. Hell is a choice. You are given the FREE GIFT of choosing but NOT the gift of CHANGING THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR CHOICE.

Normal matakot. Walang di takot sa Diyos. Sabi nga, Fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Pero Kung iisipin mo, at Kung babasahin mo, sa bible (sorry but I just need to give an example) ang worship dun ay correlated sa love. Since Hindi naman nila nakikita ang Diyos, the ONLY way to ACKNOWLEDGE His existence ay through worship. It's a way of SHOWING people that they are "grounded". At Kung makipagusap man ang Diyos sakanila, it is ALWAYS full of love and compassion. Oo, minsan may parusa pero way un to show na pwede magbago, parang ganito, "warningan Kita ngayon, pag inulit mo papaluin kita. Pag inulit mo ulit mamatay kana dahil sa katangahan mo." Seryoso. Majority ng namatay sa bible dahil sa di nila pakikinig sa warning.

May problem ka sa religion mo. I should know Kasi ilang beses mong pinasok ang religion mo sa sagot mo. I will tell you a plain truth. WALANG PERPEKTONG RELIGION. LAHAT SILA SASABIHING NASA KANILA ANG SALVATION. BUT THEY ARE ALL FLAWED. Ang INC ay malayo sa theological level ng bible. I should know, natapos ko nang basahin ang bible from cover to cover , wala ung mga "prophesy" na tinuturo nila dun. Ewan, pakiramdam ko gumagawa nalang sila Ng sarili nila. At dahil nga hindi grounded ang "faith" mo in a theological level, you became like that.

Alam mo. Nakikita ko ang dating ako sayo. ExMem ako ng INC. Handog ako. After college nagbigay ako nang sulat saying that I no longer believe in their faith. Drastic move oo, pero pakiramdam ko mas kilala ko na Diyos ko.

I think ang pagitan nalang sa paghiwalay sa Religion ko ngayon ay isang verse at takot sa Diyos, kaya hindi ko makayang umalis.

 

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I think ang pagitan nalang sa paghiwalay sa Religion ko ngayon ay isang verse at takot sa Diyos, kaya hindi ko makayang umalis.

Or takot ka sa stigma na iisipin sayo ng mga tao sa paligid mo.

It's your life. Your desisyon.

If you are seeking God, read his WORDS. Available sa Appstore ang Bible. Ung King James Version. Medyo malalim pero mas accurate yung translation from original text.

Pwede ka padin nmn magbasa while attending your church. At least nagsisimula ka nang matuto. Wag ka nalang makipagdebate sa mga kamember mo. Trust me, it will not turn nice.

You said there is 1 verse na di mo maintindihan. Anu un?

 

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Or takot ka sa stigma na iisipin sayo ng mga tao sa paligid mo.

It's your life. Your desisyon.

If you are seeking God, read his WORDS. Available sa Appstore ang Bible. Ung King James Version. Medyo malalim pero mas accurate yung translation from original text.

Pwede ka padin nmn magbasa while attending your church. At least nagsisimula ka nang matuto. Wag ka nalang makipagdebate sa mga kamember mo. Trust me, it will not turn nice.

You said there is 1 verse na di mo maintindihan. Anu un?

Hindi ko inattach sarili ko dahil alam kong religous poison yun.

Yun na nga eh, I feel like I can't decide for myself because God made me do this bla bla God intended me bla bla... plus I feel like freewill is an illusion

I will, thanks. Ngayon ko lang narealise na pwede, dahil nagkamali ako ng interpretation sa salita ng ministers and pastors na nakapaligid samin.

Yung verse na sinasabi ko ay nasa New Testament, di ko matandaan yung exact verse and book, pero ang sabi doon ay ang mga taong mambabatikos o aalis sa Kawan ng Diyos ay nagmamalaki sa sarili dahil akala nila ay napagaling nila.

 

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Hindi ko inattach sarili ko dahil alam kong religous poison yun.

Yun na nga eh, I feel like I can't decide for myself because God made me do this bla bla God intended me bla bla... plus I feel like freewill is an illusion

I will, thanks. Ngayon ko lang narealise na pwede, dahil nagkamali ako ng interpretation sa salita ng ministers and pastors na nakapaligid samin.

Yung verse na sinasabi ko ay nasa New Testament, di ko matandaan yung exact verse and book, pero ang sabi doon ay ang mga taong mambabatikos o aalis sa Kawan ng Diyos ay nagmamalaki sa sarili dahil akala nila ay napagaling nila.

Hmm. Sorry di ko din alam Kung anung verse un. Knowing INC pastors magaling sila magdivert ng verses. Kung magkakachance ka sana makuha ung verse. Anyways. Ang Kawan ay ung "GROUP OF BELIEVERS" not a group or sekta.

Walang religion na tinatag si Christ. The ONLY religion na nasa Bible ay JUDAISM. Yung religion na sinumulan ng FATHER Nya.

About Free will. It's a long debate. Kasi papasok dun ung WILL ng TAO at WILL ng LUMIKHA. So contradicting nga kung iisipin. But let me just say this. Good or Bad, LAHAT gagamitin ng DIYOS for HIS GLORY and for the goodness of HIS people. Kaya nga free roaming padin si satan. May pahihirapan si Satan, may lalapit sa Diyos, may MAILILIGTAS ang Diyos. Simple equation.

Ganun Lang nmn un. God wanted us to live. And to be a better version of ourselves. But it will be impossible to do so if you have enemies you can't see. You need THE help of SOMEONE unseen too.

Hope may napapala ka sa usapan natin.

 

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1. "We fear untimely death" which will also tell that you still fear death, period. And what do you mean by untimely? Are you expecting to have long life? By what standards? What governs that idea that someone death is "untimely" or "not untimely"? In what sense can you say that? So if a person die young it's untimely then? So the older you are the more timely your death is? Are you believing that people has purpose in life? Or you will say that it's timely if the person then choose to die? So suicides are timely death? Can you define for me what "untimely" is in an atheistic pov.

It's nothing complicated, the answer is actually in the same sentence of my previous reply. Dying at the most unexpected time by accident or other reasons is what I would call "untimely" death.

2."Acknowledging that you only have one life can be your reason to change." Then why is it that as per statistic, a GOOD NUMBER of atheist are suicidal, drug and *** abusive and are battling mental health disorder? Is that for the "better"? Is that "change"?

How is atheism related to suicide, drug abuse, and mental disorder? We don't tell people to go kill themselves like ISIS does.

 

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It's nothing complicated, the answer is actually in the same sentence of my previous reply. Dying at the most unexpected time by accident or other reasons is what I would call "untimely" death.



How is atheism related to suicide, drug abuse, and mental disorder? We don't tell people to go kill themselves like ISIS does.

1. I'm asking you to define it in an atheistic way. The reason I'm asking is when you say "accident" then there will be NO plan about it but when you say "UNTIMELY" you will have this idea that "there is a plan about it but ITS NOT YET time". Very contradicting. That is why I'm asking you what do you mean by untimely? Are you referring to "his unfinished business"? Then how will you know that given a "time" he will finish it? Are you getting this?

2. Then you don't know your numbers. It is real. I doubt you don't know. I have 3 atheist friend. 2 of them are alcohl dependant. Met a good number of your people na suicidal. And most atheist suffers from depression and anxiety.

Prove me wrong.

 

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1. I'm asking you to define it in an atheistic way. The reason I'm asking is when you say "accident" then there will be NO plan about it but when you say "UNTIMELY" you will have this idea that "there is a plan about it but ITS NOT YET time". Very contradicting. That is why I'm asking you what do you mean by untimely? Are you referring to "his unfinished business"? Then how will you know that given a "time" he will finish it? Are you getting this?

2. Then you don't know your numbers. It is real. I doubt you don't know. I have 3 atheist friend. 2 of them are alcohl dependant. Met a good number of your people na suicidal. And most atheist suffers from depression and anxiety.

Prove me wrong.

1. One died when he least expected it, that's what I defined as untimely. You're over-complicating this.

2. I had social anxiety and depression, even became nihilistic at one point, but that had nothing to do with me being an atheist. So, explain how is atheism relevant to suicide, drug abuse, and mental disorder?

 

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1. One died when he least expected it, that's what I defined as untimely. You're over-complicating this.

2. I had social anxiety and depression, even became nihilistic at one point, but that had nothing to do with me being an atheist. So, explain how is atheism relevant to suicide, drug abuse, and mental disorder?

1. I'm not over complicating things. You just can't define it. Common problem with atheism. You have definition problem. Like now, you said least expecting. Then when are they gonna "expect" it? When they grow old? Do you even know that most old people have regrets? So WHEN will be the "timely" death then? Just answer this simple question. I don't know why you can't.

2. Not only you didn't prove me wrong, you even approved it. Denial kapa kanina na walang problema sa paniniwala mo. Ikaw narin mismo umamin na meron. Let me also guess, may problem ka sa Parents mo noh?

 

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1. I'm not over complicating things. You just can't define it. Common problem with atheism. You have definition problem. Like now, you said least expecting. Then when are they gonna "expect" it? When they grow old? Do you even know that most old people have regrets? So WHEN will be the "timely" death then? Just answer this simple question. I don't know why you can't.

2. Not only you didn't prove me wrong, you even approved it. Denial kapa kanina na walang problema sa paniniwala mo. Ikaw narin mismo umamin na meron. Let me also guess, may problem ka sa Parents mo noh?

We clearly have different understanding of atheism.

 

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We clearly have different understanding of atheism.

Or maybe you can't define atheism too? Just like most atheist.

Sabagay, kayo nga di nyo maintindihan sarili at paniniwala nyo, Panu pa namin kayo paniniwalaan?

 

[S01T004718]

Or maybe you can't define atheism too? Just like most atheist.

Sabagay, kayo nga di nyo maintindihan sarili at paniniwala nyo, Panu pa namin kayo paniniwalaan?

Atheism is simply the lack of belief in god.

 

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Atheism is simply the lack of belief in god.

Then you shouldn't believe in higher power na may nag gogovern sa time. Simple lang diba?

 

[Paul santos]

what matters, is your faith and belief.
"YOUR" faith and belief!!
RELIGION has nothing to do with "YOUR" faith and belief!!
RELIGION is from someone else', it's not YOURS.
RELIGION is a title or a group, for me it's more of a business.
we are judged individually, not by group.
you can believe, that someone is watching from above, w/o having a religion

if you would ask me, why i believe in god even if i didn't see him. while not believing in church?

it's bcuz i can feel him, but i don't feel the sincerity of the teachings, the church is doing.

 

[jayendecastro]

Atheism is simply the lack of belief in god.

Dude..he doesnt know that