🕯️ Traditions Jesus is god

[Ranzsak]

JOHN 3:16 “Sapagkat gayon na lamang ang pag-ibig ng Diyos sa sanlibutan anupat ibinigay niya ang kaniyang bugtong na Anak,upang ang bawat isa na nananampalataya sa kaniya ay hindi mapuksa kundi magkaroon ng buhay na walang hanggan.

Marcos 14: 35-36 At pagparoon nang bahagya sa unahan ay sumubsob siya sa lupa at nagsimulang manalangin na kung maaari nga ay lumampas sa kaniya ang oras.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. At sinabi pa niya: “Abba, Ama, ang lahat ng mga bagay ay posible sa iyo; alisin mo sa akin ang kopang ito. Gayunma’y hindi ang ibig ko, kundi ang ibig mo.”

Mateo 27:46 Nang bandang ikasiyam na oras na ay sumigaw si Jesus sa malakas na tinig, na nagsasabi: “Eli, Eli, lama sabaktani?” na ang ibig sabihin ay “Diyos ko, Diyos ko, bakit mo ako pinabayaan?”


sa tatlong panalangin na yan.. sino ang tinutukoy nya dyan? siya rin ba? parang hindi.. GETS?

It says in You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. that God is too pure to look upon evil. Therefore, it is possible that when Jesus bore our sins in His body on the cross (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.), that the Father, spiritually, turned away. At that time, the Son may have cried out.

One thing is for sure. We have no capacity to appreciate the utterly horrific experience of having the sins of the world put upon the Lord Jesus as He hung in excruciating pain from that cross. The physical pain was immense. The spiritual one must have been even greater.

That shows us clearly how much God loves us.

 

[vespine]

It says in You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. that God is too pure to look upon evil. Therefore, it is possible that when Jesus bore our sins in His body on the cross (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.), that the Father, spiritually, turned away. At that time, the Son may have cried out.

One thing is for sure. We have no capacity to appreciate the utterly horrific experience of having the sins of the world put upon the Lord Jesus as He hung in excruciating pain from that cross. The physical pain was immense. The spiritual one must have been even greater.

That shows us clearly how much God loves us.

paki intindi nalang po yung reply ko since yan din yung sinabi mo sa unang reply ko
"intindihin mo muna bago ka mag reply"

 

[Ranzsak]

paki intindi nalang po yung reply ko since yan din yung sinabi mo sa unang reply ko
"intindihin mo muna bago ka mag reply"

ok ok in yung post you have 3 question
1.)sino ang tinutukoy nya dyan? 2.)siya rin ba? parang hindi.. 3.)GETS?
1.)father God
2.)his father
3.)yes

 

[Ranzsak]

paki intindi nalang po yung reply ko since yan din yung sinabi mo sa unang reply ko
"intindihin mo muna bago ka mag reply"

anu relihiyon mo ba?

 

[vespine]

ok ok in yung post you have 3 question
1.)sino ang tinutukoy nya dyan? 2.)siya rin ba? parang hindi.. 3.)GETS?
1.)father God
2.)his father
3.)yes

so with this..
kung si Jesus at God ay i-isa.. bakit siya mananalangit sa kanyang sarili?
bakit niya nasabi ang "Diyos ko, Diyos ko, bakit mo ako pinabayaan?"

 

[vespine]

anu relihiyon mo ba?

let set aside religion.. let's talk about what we believe
just to be fair with others

 

[Ranzsak]

so with this..
kung si Jesus at God ay i-isa.. bakit siya mananalangit sa kanyang sarili?
bakit niya nasabi ang "Diyos ko, Diyos ko, bakit mo ako pinabayaan?"

let set aside religion.. let's talk about what we believe
just to be fair with others

jesus did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage
by taking the very nature of a servant,
1.)because the father is in heaven and jesus is on earth!
when jesus Go to heaven father and son became one
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2.)The judgment was to have God the Father pour out his wrath, and instead of pouring it out on us, he pours it out on him. That necessarily involves a kind of abandonment. That is what wrath means. He gave him up to suffer the weight of all the sins of all of his people and the judgment for those sins.


6 Who, being in very nature[a] God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
7 rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
8 And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!
9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place
and gave him the name that is above every name,
10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord,
to the glory of God the Father.

 

[Ranzsak]

so with this..
kung si Jesus at God ay i-isa.. bakit siya mananalangit sa kanyang sarili?
bakit niya nasabi ang "Diyos ko, Diyos ko, bakit mo ako pinabayaan?"

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily

The Son has a dual nature - He is fully God and fully man.

 

[Ranzsak]

let set aside religion.. let's talk about what we believe
just to be fair with others

are you ashamed of your religion?

 

[vespine]

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily

The Son has a dual nature - He is fully God and fully man.

but here.. is says
John 14:28 You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.

 

[vespine]

are you ashamed of your religion?

No, I ain't ashamed of my religion..
it will only bring trouble to others..
I know where it goes usually.. for what I read here

 

[Ranzsak]

but here.. is says
John 14:28 You heard that I said to you, ‘I am going away and I am coming back to you.’ If you loved me, you would rejoice that I am going to the Father, for the Father is greater than I am.

The fact that Jesus said, "My Father is greater than I" has led some to conclude that he was lesser in nature than God the Father. However this statement refers to Jesus' state of humiliation that he took when he became a human being. It does not to have reference to his basic nature.

For this reason also, God highly exalted him, and bestowed on him the name which is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee will bow, of those who are in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.).

 

[vespine]

this statement refers to Jesus' state of humiliation that he took when he became a human being

saan part ng bible mababasa ko to?

Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father

and this one.. I've read a forum where one ask if Lord and God interchangeable..
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[ajsada09]

ang alam ko ang tunay na panginoon dinakikita dimalapitan nkatira sa liwanag wlang katambal xa gumawala sa lahat ng bagay hindi tao ang panginoon at wlang ama..hindi ispirito mag isip kau

 

[Thea18]

Yes.. he preexisted no one will argue with that, pero yung pinupunto mo base sa pagkakasunod sunod ng pagkaka sulat mo at yung nasa bold na "Jesus is God"
is contradict dito:

Revelation 22:13 I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.

so if Jesus is God.. wala dapat nauna sa kanya since na claim nga dun na sya ang una at ang huli..

Hindi naman siguro sir,si kristo ay parte ng Ama katunayan galing sya sa sinapupunan nya kaya yong pagiging alpha ng Ama puede rin sa anak hindi naman nilikha si kristo ipinanganak sya.... kaya nga parihas sila Dios eh pero mas dakila ang Ama ayon kay kristo.

 

[Ranzsak]

saan part ng bible mababasa ko to?



and this one.. I've read a forum where one ask if Lord and God interchangeable..
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1.) nabasa ko to sa forum na nagstustudy ng bible(not all words in bible are literal) they're intelligent and higher IQ than you.
2) philippians 2:10-11 10.that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

 

[Silent07]

He is not a man

Galatians 1:12
"For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ."

 

[ajsada09]

bakit sabi ba jesus na sya ang panginoon na dapat sambahin manood kayu ng dibate ni ahmad barselong pamagat si jesus vah ay panginoon yotube

 

[Ranzsak]

bakit sabi ba jesus na sya ang panginoon na dapat sambahin manood kayu ng dibate ni ahmad barselong pamagat si jesus vah ay panginoon yotube

bakit kung role mo maging nature of a servant para sa kaligtasan ng tao sasabihin mo ba na diyos ka?

manood ka rin sa youtube na jesus and father are one!
wag one sided. use ka rin ng common sense pa minsan minsan. kahit once a day lang pwedi na yun

 

[akari0715]

gusto ko sanang mag reply or makipag debate sayo kaso nahihirapan ako mag comment sa site natin... madali lang irefute mga sinabi mo...