PHzergziljian
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bilib ako sayo bro kasi honest ka . . . thumbs up para sa yo bro !
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bilib ako sayo bro kasi honest ka . . . thumbs up para sa yo bro !
alcapone903a
Fanatic
Haiist ewan ko sayo tol. Ipaglaban mo nalang yan. Basta ako puro kasinungalingan lang yan na mga religion. Science will always prevail!
alcapone903a
Fanatic
Ipaglaban mo yan. Basta ako best decision of my life is nung umalis ako sa religion bullshit na yan. Iwas sa mga hypokritong/gahaman na mga pari na yan. At tsaka yan na mga sinabi...di na kailangan ng prayers niyan, ayusin at dapat maingat ka lang sa mga ginagawa mo araw-araw at wala ka ng problema.xD nag hintay ako at ngyare nga ilang beses na ano pa bang mapapatunay ko para hindi na ako mag duda a lot of things happened and i've seen most of it it was so awesome and wonderful hindi mo talaga maiintindihan kasi ayaw mo pag ayaw wag ng pilitin xP sabi ko nga rin before hindi ako makaka pag pabago sa isip niyo kundi si god at siya nga kung hindi man dumating sa buhay mo ang makilala mo siya well i truly feel sorry for you but ipagdadasal kita pre kaya hindi mangyayare na hindi mo siya makilala in all your lifekahit username mo lang kilalang kilala ka niya more than anyone else ako hindi kita kilala ^^
zergziljian
Honorary Poster
bro, di naman ako naniniwala sa religion, dahil wala namang religion na makapag sasalba sa yo kundi yong paniniwala mo lang at ang pinaniniwalaan ko lang ay ang Dios. take note bro, ang Dios ay hindi relihiyon?
alcapone903a
Fanatic
Nope, pag naniwala ka sa 'Diyos' ibig sabihin niyan may relihiyon ka kasi sinasamba o naniniwala ka sa kanya/kanila. Masasabi mo talagang wala kang relihiyon kapag wala kang diyos na pinaniniwalaan. Please lang pre huwag mo icapitalize muna yan na term na 'dios'. Di pa natin alam yan, maski nga pagpaparamdam na may 'dios' wala. Kung totoo man yan siya/sila di sana palala ng palala ng mundo ngayon tapos sasabihin nung mga boang na sign na parating na kuno si koan. smfh zao
Joey Tagum
Fanatic
Mukhang matindi ang usapan dito ah.. hehehe.. cge lang guys tuloy nyo lang yan.
--ShiniGaMi--
Fanatic
Hello, this is for everyone not only from the owner of this thread. My question is, did you read your bible first before making this thread? Did you really understand why god decide to slay the firstborn of the Egyptians?
If not, please take time read and understand this claim.
First, the Egyptians were far from innocent. Pharaoh had murdered all of the infant Hebrew boys by drowning them in the Nile River (Ex. 1:22). Egypt had grown rich by enslaving the Jewish people for 400 years (Gen. 15:13). While Pharaoh carried out this plot, the Egyptian people benefited from his decision to enslave the Jews. Now, the Egyptian people were being held culpable for standing idly by, while this was happening. God had promised to curse those who cursed Israel (Gen. 12:3). If God did not act, he would have been reneging on his promise to Abraham.
Second, while Pharaoh killed every Hebrew infant boy, God only judged the firstborn of Egypt. God’s judgment was mild in comparison to Pharaoh’s judgment. Moreover, the text never states that Pharaoh’s edict (to kill the Hebrew infants) was ever rescinded. It’s possible that the Pharaoh was currently killing the Hebrew boys at the time of the plagues.
Third, some Egyptians escaped from judgment with the Hebrews. Exodus 9:20-21 demonstrates that some of Pharaoh’s own advisors were spared from judgment, during the plague of hail. Exodus 12:38 states that a “mixed multitude” of people escaped Pharaoh along with the Israelites. If these escaping Egyptian households were struck, it isn’t likely that they would flee along with the Israelites. Moreover, even the instructions for the Passover meal mentions the “alien,” who decides to participate in the Passover supper (Ex. 12:19). Therefore, when the text says that “all” of the Egyptian households were struck with a plague (Ex. 12:29), this no doubt refers to those unbelieving households.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.
Fourth, the tenth plague was last on the list, because it was a last resort. Pharaoh had been warned by God for nine straight plagues. God had given Pharaoh multiple opportunities to change his mind and avoid judgment. Pharaoh, on the other hand, did not give the Jews any “ways out,” when he killed the Hebrew boys. While God waited patiently and gave many chances for repentance, Pharaoh gave none.
Fifth, the firstborn sons of Egypt were below the age of accountability. Isaiah writes that there is an age before a child is able to “know to refuse the evil and choose the good” (Is. 7:16 NASB). The children of Israel were not held responsible for the sins of their parents during the Wandering, because they had “no knowledge of good or evil” (Deut. 1:39 NASB). David said he would go to be with his infant baby, who had died (2 Sam. 12:23). David believed in an afterlife, and he thought that he was going to be with God after death (Ps. 16:10-11), and the New Testament authors claim that he is in heaven, too (Rom. 4:6-8). This demonstrates that his infant must be in heaven. In addition, Jesus implies that little children will be in heaven (Mk. 10:14; Mt. 18:3; 19:14). Because God judged the children of Egypt, he would have brought them immediately into his presence in heaven, because they are below the age of accountability.
Sixth, God has certain moral rights over human life that we don’t. As the author and creator of life, God has a unique right over all human life. Philosopher Richard Swinburne writes, “God as the author of our being would have rights over us that we do not have over our fellow humans.”You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. To illustrate this, a parent has certain rights over their own children, which they do not have over other children (e.g. discipline). Since God is the creator and sustainer of all people, he decides how long we get to live (Ps. 139:16). God takes everyone’s life at some point. It’s called death. We acknowledge this, when a surgeon is bringing someone back to life. We say that he is “Playing God.” God allows everyone to die; the question is –when? We live everyday –not as a right –but by the mercy of God. When God took the lives of the firstborn in Egypt, he was acting on prerogatives that rightly belong to him. In fact, these Egyptian boys probably died in their sleep (“Now it came about at midnight…” Ex. 12:29). Of course, the Hebrew infants were given no such mercy, drowning in the Nile River (Ex. 1:22).
Seventh, the God who took the firstborn son gave up his own firstborn son. We would be remiss if we didn’t point this out. While we might feel horror at the fact that God would judge the firstborn of Egypt, he need to remember that we’re dealing with the same God who ρáíd this great and terrible price himself by giving up his “only begotten son” (Jn. 3:16). While God is willing and able to judge, he was also willing to take our place in judgment.
God exist.
If not, please take time read and understand this claim.
First, the Egyptians were far from innocent. Pharaoh had murdered all of the infant Hebrew boys by drowning them in the Nile River (Ex. 1:22). Egypt had grown rich by enslaving the Jewish people for 400 years (Gen. 15:13). While Pharaoh carried out this plot, the Egyptian people benefited from his decision to enslave the Jews. Now, the Egyptian people were being held culpable for standing idly by, while this was happening. God had promised to curse those who cursed Israel (Gen. 12:3). If God did not act, he would have been reneging on his promise to Abraham.
Second, while Pharaoh killed every Hebrew infant boy, God only judged the firstborn of Egypt. God’s judgment was mild in comparison to Pharaoh’s judgment. Moreover, the text never states that Pharaoh’s edict (to kill the Hebrew infants) was ever rescinded. It’s possible that the Pharaoh was currently killing the Hebrew boys at the time of the plagues.
Third, some Egyptians escaped from judgment with the Hebrews. Exodus 9:20-21 demonstrates that some of Pharaoh’s own advisors were spared from judgment, during the plague of hail. Exodus 12:38 states that a “mixed multitude” of people escaped Pharaoh along with the Israelites. If these escaping Egyptian households were struck, it isn’t likely that they would flee along with the Israelites. Moreover, even the instructions for the Passover meal mentions the “alien,” who decides to participate in the Passover supper (Ex. 12:19). Therefore, when the text says that “all” of the Egyptian households were struck with a plague (Ex. 12:29), this no doubt refers to those unbelieving households.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.
Fourth, the tenth plague was last on the list, because it was a last resort. Pharaoh had been warned by God for nine straight plagues. God had given Pharaoh multiple opportunities to change his mind and avoid judgment. Pharaoh, on the other hand, did not give the Jews any “ways out,” when he killed the Hebrew boys. While God waited patiently and gave many chances for repentance, Pharaoh gave none.
Fifth, the firstborn sons of Egypt were below the age of accountability. Isaiah writes that there is an age before a child is able to “know to refuse the evil and choose the good” (Is. 7:16 NASB). The children of Israel were not held responsible for the sins of their parents during the Wandering, because they had “no knowledge of good or evil” (Deut. 1:39 NASB). David said he would go to be with his infant baby, who had died (2 Sam. 12:23). David believed in an afterlife, and he thought that he was going to be with God after death (Ps. 16:10-11), and the New Testament authors claim that he is in heaven, too (Rom. 4:6-8). This demonstrates that his infant must be in heaven. In addition, Jesus implies that little children will be in heaven (Mk. 10:14; Mt. 18:3; 19:14). Because God judged the children of Egypt, he would have brought them immediately into his presence in heaven, because they are below the age of accountability.
Sixth, God has certain moral rights over human life that we don’t. As the author and creator of life, God has a unique right over all human life. Philosopher Richard Swinburne writes, “God as the author of our being would have rights over us that we do not have over our fellow humans.”You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. To illustrate this, a parent has certain rights over their own children, which they do not have over other children (e.g. discipline). Since God is the creator and sustainer of all people, he decides how long we get to live (Ps. 139:16). God takes everyone’s life at some point. It’s called death. We acknowledge this, when a surgeon is bringing someone back to life. We say that he is “Playing God.” God allows everyone to die; the question is –when? We live everyday –not as a right –but by the mercy of God. When God took the lives of the firstborn in Egypt, he was acting on prerogatives that rightly belong to him. In fact, these Egyptian boys probably died in their sleep (“Now it came about at midnight…” Ex. 12:29). Of course, the Hebrew infants were given no such mercy, drowning in the Nile River (Ex. 1:22).
Seventh, the God who took the firstborn son gave up his own firstborn son. We would be remiss if we didn’t point this out. While we might feel horror at the fact that God would judge the firstborn of Egypt, he need to remember that we’re dealing with the same God who ρáíd this great and terrible price himself by giving up his “only begotten son” (Jn. 3:16). While God is willing and able to judge, he was also willing to take our place in judgment.
God exist.
para matapos na to panoorin nyo yan 
magsaliksik at higit sa lahat magbāsa theist man o atheist
1. Did you then think that We created you in vain, and that you would not be returned to us?
The Holy Quran 23:115
2. And I created not the jinn and mankind except that they should worship Me (Alone).
The Holy Quran 51:56
The purpose of our life is the worship our Creator in the many ways there are to worship Him (prayer, helping others, seeking knowledge, etc.).
3. …Who has created life and death so that He may try you which of you are best in deeds…
The Holy Quran 67:2
Who will do the best works for the sake of Him?
4. And We have not created the heaven and earth and what is between them in vain. That is the opinion of those who disbelieve. And woe to such disbelievers, because of the Fire. Shall we treat those who believe and do good deeds as those who spread corruption on the earth? Or shall we treat the pious as sinners?
The Holy Quran 38:27-8
The believers will not face the same afterlife as the corrupters. The pious will not be treated the same as sinners.
5. And among the people there is he who sells himself for the pleasure of Allah, and Allah is kind to His worshippers.
The Holy Quran 2:207
The pleasure of Allah should be our goal.
6. There has come to you from God a light and a luminous Book, through which God, by His grace, guides all who seek His good pleasure on the path of peace, and brings them out of the depths of darkness into light and guides them unto a Straight Path.
The Holy Quran 5:15-16
God has guided people to the purpose of life—worshipping Him and seeking His pleasure—by sending His messengers, books and other means. But we have to want to please God to receive this guidance.
magsaliksik at higit sa lahat magbāsa theist man o atheist
1. Did you then think that We created you in vain, and that you would not be returned to us?
The Holy Quran 23:115
2. And I created not the jinn and mankind except that they should worship Me (Alone).
The Holy Quran 51:56
The purpose of our life is the worship our Creator in the many ways there are to worship Him (prayer, helping others, seeking knowledge, etc.).
3. …Who has created life and death so that He may try you which of you are best in deeds…
The Holy Quran 67:2
Who will do the best works for the sake of Him?
4. And We have not created the heaven and earth and what is between them in vain. That is the opinion of those who disbelieve. And woe to such disbelievers, because of the Fire. Shall we treat those who believe and do good deeds as those who spread corruption on the earth? Or shall we treat the pious as sinners?
The Holy Quran 38:27-8
The believers will not face the same afterlife as the corrupters. The pious will not be treated the same as sinners.
5. And among the people there is he who sells himself for the pleasure of Allah, and Allah is kind to His worshippers.
The Holy Quran 2:207
The pleasure of Allah should be our goal.
6. There has come to you from God a light and a luminous Book, through which God, by His grace, guides all who seek His good pleasure on the path of peace, and brings them out of the depths of darkness into light and guides them unto a Straight Path.
The Holy Quran 5:15-16
God has guided people to the purpose of life—worshipping Him and seeking His pleasure—by sending His messengers, books and other means. But we have to want to please God to receive this guidance.
Shizuka_14
Established
Ay grabe nga naman mga tao ngayon,pati Diyos,pinag-iisipan ng kung anu-ano.Sorry po
Haha ayoko kasi ng real movie. Anime movie lang ganon
Un nga ang pinopoint ko. Hindi nila agad nakilala si god. Kaya nagkaron sila ng mga idol
Andami nyong reklamo. Kung ayaw mo magsuffer at mabuhay ng mgy challenges. Pakamatay ka. Baka sakaling di ka mapunta sa ilalim.
Hindi mo ba alam na.
Challenges make us stronger?
Weaknesses make us stronger?
Ganto kasi yan. Kung di mo na gets.
Accept that you're weak, to be strong.
Accept that you're poor. The find a way to be rich.
Accept that tour you're Ugly. To motivate you'reself to look more presentable.
Un lang sana na gets mo.
Saka ung tungkol sa box. May history kasi kumbakit ko nasabi yan. May ka tungali ako kanina. Kaya parang nonesense pero pag nabasa mo ung iba. Ma gegets mo. Wag ka kasi agad aaksyon kumg di mo naman alam. At ginagawa mo para memasabi kalang
Freedom Forever
Enthusiast
Paano nyo naman pong nasabi na hindi ko ito naia-apply sa buhay ko? Hindi nyo naman po ako kilala ng lubusan? Sayo na nanggaling, nagbabasa kalang talaga, sabi ko pakaisipin mo, hindi mo nakuha ang mensahe ng binasa mo kaya yung pananaw mo hingil sa Bible ay parang may pagka fantasy lang. Yan ang hirap sainyo. Nagbasa ka? Hinanap mo ba ang Diyos? Sinubukan mo naba syang hanapin minsan sa buhay mo? Masasabi kong hindi kasi nga yung pag iisip na mayroon ka ganyan padin. Yun ang nakakaawa sayo.
cutemedievil
Eternal Poster
My professor have read the bible five times and found 1000+ errors throughout. It's an unreliable source.
dahil nagnanakaw ka ng internet. nasa 10 deadly sins yan ng christians
zergziljian
Honorary Poster
paano sasabihin ko lang na isa lang akong believer na merong Dios na nag e exist . . .
yong religion na tinutokoy nila ay label or brand lang yun . . . tulad nyo mga nagpapanggap na atheist, you believed in something na merong nag e exist kaya nyo to sinuri at tinuklas . . . ang pinag kakaiba lang natin ay may Dios akong pinaniniwalaan at kayo wala . . . pero in general pareho lang tayong may pinaniniwalaan na may nag e exist . . .
zergziljian
Honorary Poster
meaning ba nun e dun ka lang naniniwala sa professor mo at yong sayong sarili paniniwala ay di mo pinaniniwalaan?
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