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🕯️ Traditions Edited: exchange of thoughts about the holy book, science vs. faith

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Napster88 said:
hindi naman ako matalinong tao, kaya sa biblia dumidepende..

sige po, pa-share naman ng ilang concrete proofs? gusto ko yung may mga bagong natutunan.
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Haha did you know that the world is spherical in shape and not flat as proposed by early humans?

Did you know that earth is not the center of the universe as proposed by early humans and stupid religious groups.

Did you know that earth is the only planet in our solar system that doesn't named after a god?

Haha there you go! Advice ko sayo sa kung ano ang napatunayan na, dun ka dumepende. Baliw lang ang naniniwala na totoo ang hindi totoo.
 
mak2x123 said:

baka hindi mo maintindihan. mas madali kasi ang lahat kapag faith lang lahat di na kailangan gumamit ng utak.

baka ituro na raw ito sa future, kasi nakakalalim na sila. pero bumabagal na ang development ng mga computers. kung dati ay 2x every 2 years. ngayon ay nagiging 2x every 2.5 years kaya baka namatay na tayo bago pa maging law ito :(

yung consciousness lang naman talaga yung nakakatakot mawala, pero sa tutuo lang memory lang naman talaga nagdadala . kapag nakakita ka ng may amnesia baka mag iba ang point of view mo.

nagiging totoo lang ang bagay kapag enoobserve mo. hindi mo marerealize na isa kang tao kapag ipinanganak ka na abnormal. kaya nga di natin masasabi na ang reality ay reality talaga. nasasabi lang natin ito kasi, sabay2x tayo lahat na tao nakakaobserba sa tunay na mundo. ang tawag nyan realism.

dahil may tao rin na hindi naniniwala sa realism, at sapalagay nya ang lahat ay gawa lamang ng utak nya, kaya kapag namatay siya wala narin ang mundo. kaya nakadepende na yan sayo kung saan ka maniwala.

dahil lahat possible.
kapag nangyari ang bagay may billion na possibilidad.

kadalasan kasi sa mga gaya nyo dios agad may gawa. ginawa ninyong 1/1 ang probability ng pangyayari

natutunan ko lang ito sa sobrang curious ko. marami article nito at ÿôutubê. saka andyan naman ito sa video ah
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kaya lumalabo ngayon ang tungkol sa Biblia eh.. Mas napapalayo sa Diyos dahil sa over thinking..

Pero di naman ako galit sa mga ganitong observation ng tao. Sabi ko nga gusto ko din matuto ng iba.

Thanks for sharing the vid.
 
God Rules said:
dipende po kasi yan sa kwento

i.e kinuha mo lang yung isang phrase na
"ang mahal"

maaring "ang mahal mo naman " "ang mahal naman niyan" "ang mahal ko" ^^

"And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day."-Joshua 10:13
hindi ba po xD ay teka bat parang mali yung verse mo po di ko po makita yung the sun moves around xD

Joshua 10:13
ASV And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, Until the nation had avenged themselves of their enemies. Is not this written in the book of noteJashar? And the sun stayed in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

BBE And the sun was at rest and the moon kept its place till the nation had given punishment to their attackers. (Is it not recorded in the book of Jashar?) So the sun kept its place in the middle of the heavens, and was waiting, and did not go down, for the space of a day.

Bishops And the sunne abode, and the moone stoode styll, vntyll the people auenged them selues vpon their enemies. Is not this written in the booke of the righteous? So the sunne [I say] abode in the middest of heauen, and hasted not to go downe by the space of a whole day.

Coverdale Then the Sonne helde styll, and ye Moone stode, vntyll the people had auenged the selues on their enemies. Is not this wrytten in the boke of the righteous? Thus the Sonne stode styll in the myddes of heauen, and dyfferred to go downe for the space of a whole daye after.

EasyEnglish So the sun stood still and the moon stopped until Israel had *punished its enemies. People wrote about this in the book of Jashar. The sun stopped in the middle of the sky, and did not go down for about a whole day.

GRVx

ISV So the sun remained still and the moon stood in place until the nation settled their score with their enemies. This is recorded, is it not, in the book of Jashar? The sun stood in place in the middle of the sky and seemed not to be in a hurry to set for nearly an entire day.

KJ2000 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hastened not to go down about a whole day.

KJV And the sun H8121 stood stillH1826, and the moon H3394stayed H5975, until the peopleH1471 had avenged H5358themselves upon their enemiesH341. Is not this H1931 writtenH3789 in the book H5612 of Jasher H3477? So the sun H8121stood still H5975 in the midstH2677 of heaven H8064, and hasted H213 not to go down H935about a whole H8549 day H3117.note

KJVLite And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day. note

Matthew And the sonne abode, and the mone stode styll, vntyll the people had aduenged them selues vpon their enemyes. Is not thys written in the boke of the ryghtwes, howe that the sunne abode in the middes of heauen, and hasted not to go doune by the space of a whole daye.

NET The sun stood still and the moon stood motionless while the nation took vengeance on its enemies. The event is recorded in the Scroll of the Upright One. The sun stood motionless in the middle of the sky and did not set for about a full day.

NHEB The sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the nation had avenged themselves of their enemies. Isn’t this written in the book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the midst of the sky, and did not hurry to go down about a whole day.

TAB At ang araw ay tumigil, at ang buwan ay huminto, Hanggang sa ang bansa ay nakapanghiganti sa kaniyang mga kaaway. Hindi ba ito nakasulat sa aklat ni Jasher? At ang araw ay tumigil sa gitna ng langit, at hindi nagmadaling lumubog sa isang buong araw.

Tyndale

WEB The sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the nation had avenged themselves of their enemies. Isn’t this written in the book of Jashar? The sun stayed in the middle of the sky, and didn’t hurry to go down about a whole day.

Wycliffe And the sunne and the moone stoden, til the folc of God vengide it silf of hise enemyes. Whether this is not writun in the book of iust men? And so the sunne stood in the myddis of heuene, and hastide not to go doun in the space of o dai; so long a dai was not bifore and aftirward;

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Tama kapo wala din akong nabasa na the sun moves around the earth.
Hindi siguro bible ng christian ang binabasa nya.
 
Napster88 said:
Mas napapalayo sa Diyos dahil sa over thinking.
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kahit hindi ka mag overthinking. kahit nga **** alam ang pinagkaiba ng tunay at hindi kapag hindi pa nababasa ang bible.
diyan kalang talaga maniniwala ng himala kapag nabasa muna at isinapuso ang bible, lalo na't pinalaki ka ng magulang mo dyan. at tinatakot na masusunog kaluluwa mo kapag hindi ka maniwala, kaya naman matatakot ka at mapipilitang maniwala hanggang matanggap nalang.
 
pleasekillbryan said:
Haha did you know that the world is spherical in shape and not flat as proposed by early humans?

Did you know that earth is not the center of the universe as proposed by early humans and stupid religious groups.

Did you know that earth is the only planet in our solar system that doesn't named after a god?

Haha there you go! Advice ko sayo sa kung ano ang napatunayan na, dun ka dumepende. Baliw lang ang naniniwala na totoo ang hindi totoo.
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ah.. yung ilan dyan nasa biblia na bago pa napatunayan ng tao :D
 
mak2x123 said:
kahit hindi ka mag overthinking. kahit nga **** alam ang pinagkaiba ng tunay at hindi kapag hindi pa nababasa ang bible.
diyan kalang talaga maniniwala ng himala kapag nabasa muna at isinapuso ang bible, lalo na't pinalaki ka ng magulang mo dyan. at tinatakot na masusunog kaluluwa mo kapag hindi ka maniwala, kaya naman matatakot ka at mapipilitang maniwala hanggang matanggap nalang.
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Natakot? Parang ganun na nga.. Sabi nga nila, prevention is better than a found of cure.. Paano kung masusunog nga ang hindi naniwala? It's too late na para magsisi.
 
Napster88 said:
ah.. yung ilan dyan nasa biblia na bago pa napatunayan ng tao :D
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Anong version ng bible? Yung enedit or yung enidit? haha for sure kung 20th to 201st century yung version ng bibliya mo, malamng anjan na nga yan, kasi napatunayan na eh pano bebenta sa tao kung puro's contradicting diba? kaya na yung book of Ezekiel tinanggal nila kasi sasama daw ang imahe ng bible, lalo na mga anghel. hindi maganda sa business lalo na't "holy" bible nga ang title eh so dapat "holy" din ang content kaya edit pa more! hahahaha
 
Napster88 said:
Paano kung masusunog nga ang hindi naniwala
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may 1 in a billion chance po yang sinasabi nyo.

ni hindi nga 50% chance na mangyayari iyan. kasi

pwedeng:
masunog nga
mapunta sa langit
mabuhay
maulit ang past
maging star
maging planet
mapunta sa ibang dimensyon
maging spirit
maglaho
maging hayop

gets? not only two possibilities but billions ! no exact option. bible is 1 in a billion chance.

ang hirap nga manalo sa 1/100 chance yan pa bang 1/1000000000000

kaya nga need ng evidence para lumiit ang possibilities. ngunit may 1 way to know the answer at pwede na gawin ngayon.

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Napster88 said:
Natakot? Parang ganun na nga.. Sabi nga nila, prevention is better than a found of cure.. Paano kung masusunog nga ang hindi naniwala? It's too late na para magsisi.
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Eh kung ganon okay lang kaysa mkasama pa sya

Isa syang Genocide at Homophobic

Pero yun ngalang parang emposibli...
 
Frustrated Burger said:
Ito scientific study of our brain
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Pakibasa nalang mga athiest na **** sa science
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'This shows how superstition is hardwired into our brains,
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kaya nga sumikat si zeus, mga bato at iba iba pa. Dahil sa totoo lang takot talaga ang tao sa unknown, kaya need ng tao ng explanation sa lahat.

kaya gumawa sila ng diyos na kapag wala silang alam ay mayroon silang maidadahilan sa sarili nila.

sinabi nga sa article na ibinigay mo na isa itong uri ng survival. dahil nakakauplift po ng emotion kapag alam mong may masasandalan ka. pero in reality its not true but like placebo,

kung may alam ka sa placebo gamit po ito ng mga psychologists, na ibinibida mo.

hardwired talaga ang tao malaman ang unknown lalo na yung death kaya nga gumagawa ng paraan lahat pero iba kasi talaga pag may evidence lumiliit ang probability na magkamali tayo sa totoo
 
ganyan talaga ang process ng pagtanggap

denial, anger, bargaining, depression at acceptance.
promise alam to ng mga nurse, psychologist at teachers. yung nag aaral na may kinalaman sa psychology.

dinaanan ko to bago ko natanggap na christian man ako pero secretly not a believer po ako inside.
lakas lang ng loob para makita ang katotohanan.

dahil alam ko kahit anong oras pwede akong mamatay kahit sa pagtulog ko, pwedeng wala na ako bukas. gaya kay MARKY CIELO at RICO YAN. namatay habang natutulog
 
Frustrated Burger said:
Ito scientific study of our brain
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Pakibasa nalang mga athiest na **** sa science
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Boss mukang title lang po binasa mo eh. taz agad agad mong pinost para mag muka kang bida. "Humans are programmed to believe in God because it gives them a better chance of survival, researchers claim." ayan boss o malinaw researcher's CLAIM. Kleeeeeym... Unang paragraph palang boss sinabi na nila na claims lang nila yung mga pinag sasabi nila doon. Humahastag science fiction si boss ah. Hahaha
 
pleasekillbryan said:
Boss mukang title lang po binasa mo eh. taz agad agad mong pinost para mag muka kang bida. "Humans are programmed to believe in God because it gives them a better chance of survival, researchers claim." ayan boss o malinaw researcher's CLAIM. Kleeeeeym... Unang paragraph palang boss sinabi na nila na claims lang nila yung mga pinag sasabi nila doon. Humahastag science fiction si boss ah. Hahaha
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di rin nya alam galing ito sa psychologists na reseach it supports us po. ganyan talaga pagfaith lang, hindi na gumagana ang utak
 
mak2x123 said:
di rin nya alam galing ito sa psychologists na reseach it supports us po. ganyan talaga pagfaith lang, hindi na gumagana ang utak
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mak2x123 said:
di rin nya alam galing ito sa psychologists na reseach it supports us po. ganyan talaga pagfaith lang, hindi na gumagana ang utak
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Haha mahirap kasi boss pag nasanay sa copy paste. Na i-stagnant na yung utak kasi walang bagong impormasyon ang lumalapat. Mukang sapat na kasi sa kanila ang kapal lang ng muka kahit walang ng baong knowledge. Ba't ka pa nga naman mag papakandahirap sa pag iisip kung pwede mo namang i copy paste yung bible verses. Hahaha kahuhusay ng mga ere! Hahahaha
 
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Natuklasan ng mga scientist na nag aral sa utak ng tao
Mayroong parte ng ating utak na doon sa parte ng utak na yon, nadoon yong ating tendency to believe of a supernatural being may mas mataas sa atin,alam natin na may mas mataas sa atin there is a supernatural being,somebody more powerful than us,nasa brain na ng tao yon nakita ng mga scientist, theres a particular region of the brain that is hardwired into our brain upon birth,that particular portion of the brain that allows us to believe that there is a supreme or supernatural being, at yan ay napag aralan na ng mga scientist .
 
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