🔒 Closed Biblical/scientific curiousity (official thread)

[Frustrated Burger]

Yong sa manhole kaya bilog para hindi mahulog o lumisya yong takip kasi mas malapad ang takip kesa sa butas nito

Kapag kasi kwadrado ang takip maari lumisya ang kabilang sulok neto delikado

 

[entersandman]

bakit may alien? bakit hndi natin sila naging katulad. para malupet din tayo

 

[alist1986]

Yong sa manhole kaya bilog para hindi mahulog o lumisya yong takip kasi mas malapad ang takip kesa sa butas nito

Kapag kasi kwadrado ang takip maari lumisya ang kabilang sulok neto delikado

Correct ka dyan bosing - the scientific answer!

Ang di ako sang-ayon bosing ay yung sagot sa tanong na kung sinong nauna sa itlog at manok. Dalawa po ang alam kong sagot dyan.
1. Ang paghalintulad kung alin ang nauna sa manok at itlog ay isang (metaphoric adjective) metapisikong pang-uri na naglalarawan ng mga sitwasyon/kondisyon kung saan hindi malinaw kung alin sa dalawang mga kaganapan ang dapat isaalang-alang ang sanhi, at kung saan dapat ituring na epekto. Samakatwid, kapag ginamit yang tanong ay walang tamang kasagutan!
2. Sa literal naman o kaya ay siyentipikong pag-uusap tungkol sa origins ng itlog at manok, ang itlog ang nauna dahil sa milyon taon na nakaraan, mayroon ng mga unang lahi ng hayop (like the first amphibians) na nangingitlog bago man dumating ang mga lahi ng ibon (o pinanggalingan ng lahi ng manok).
Kaya sa kahit anong pagtatalo sa tatlong henerasyon (w/ bold letters) ng mga hayop na binanggit, yung manok pa rin ang huli.
(Nasa wiki po yan! Translated ko lang sa malinaw na Tagalog. Isa kasi yan sa mga una kong hinanapan ng kasagutan noong araw.)

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Mali ang na research mo panay katha lang yan, nauna talaga ang manok sa itlog pakibasa ito

They've cracked it at last! The chicken DID come before the egg

It has been the ultimate philosophical and scientific mystery for centuries - until now, that is.

Scientists yesterday claimed to have cracked the riddle of whether the chicken or the egg came first.

The answer, they say, is the chicken. Researchers found that the formation of egg shells relies on a protein found only in a chicken's ovaries.
Scientists have discovered that eggs can only have been laid by chickens, thus solving the puzzle
Therefore, an egg can exist only if it has been inside a chicken.

The protein - called ovocledidin-17, or OC-17 - acts as a catalyst to speed up the development of the shell.

This hard shell is essential to house the yolk and its protective fluids while the chick develops inside.

Scientists from Sheffield and Warwick universities used a super computer to 'zoom in' on the formation of an egg.

The computer, called HECToR and based in Edinburgh, revealed that OC-17 is crucial in kick-starting crystallisation - the early stages of the creation of a shell.

The protein coverts calcium carbonate into calcite crystals which make up the shell.

Calcite crystals are found in numerous bones and shells but chickens form them quicker than any other species - creating six grams (0.2oz) of shell every 24 hours.

Dr Colin Freeman, from Sheffield University's Department of Engineering Materials, said: 'It had long been suspected that the egg came first but now we have the scientific proof that shows that in fact the chicken came first.

'The protein had been identified before and it was linked to egg formation but by examining it closely we have been able to see how it controls the process.

'It's very interesting to find that different types of avian species seem to have a variation of the protein that does the same job.'

Professor John Harding, from the same department, said the discovery could have other uses.

'Understanding how chickens make egg shells is fascinating in itself but can also give clues towards designing new materials and processes,' he said.

'Nature has found innovative solutions that work for all kinds of problems in materials science and technology - we can learn a lot from them.'

The discovery was revealed in the paper Structural Control Of Crystal Nuclei By An Eggshell Protein.

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Mali ang na research mo panay katha lang yan, nauna talaga ang manok sa itlog pakibasa ito

They've cracked it at last! The chicken DID come before the egg

It has been the ultimate philosophical and scientific mystery for centuries - until now, that is.

Scientists yesterday claimed to have cracked the riddle of whether the chicken or the egg came first.

The answer, they say, is the chicken. Researchers found that the formation of egg shells relies on a protein found only in a chicken's ovaries.
Scientists have discovered that eggs can only have been laid by chickens, thus solving the puzzle
Therefore, an egg can exist only if it has been inside a chicken.

The protein - called ovocledidin-17, or OC-17 - acts as a catalyst to speed up the development of the shell.

This hard shell is essential to house the yolk and its protective fluids while the chick develops inside.

Scientists from Sheffield and Warwick universities used a super computer to 'zoom in' on the formation of an egg.

The computer, called HECToR and based in Edinburgh, revealed that OC-17 is crucial in kick-starting crystallisation - the early stages of the creation of a shell.

The protein coverts calcium carbonate into calcite crystals which make up the shell.

Calcite crystals are found in numerous bones and shells but chickens form them quicker than any other species - creating six grams (0.2oz) of shell every 24 hours.

Dr Colin Freeman, from Sheffield University's Department of Engineering Materials, said: 'It had long been suspected that the egg came first but now we have the scientific proof that shows that in fact the chicken came first.

'The protein had been identified before and it was linked to egg formation but by examining it closely we have been able to see how it controls the process.

'It's very interesting to find that different types of avian species seem to have a variation of the protein that does the same job.'

Professor John Harding, from the same department, said the discovery could have other uses.

'Understanding how chickens make egg shells is fascinating in itself but can also give clues towards designing new materials and processes,' he said.

'Nature has found innovative solutions that work for all kinds of problems in materials science and technology - we can learn a lot from them.'

The discovery was revealed in the paper Structural Control Of Crystal Nuclei By An Eggshell Protein.

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Sa Bible nakasulat nilikha ang mga hayop
Wala naman nakasulat sa Bible na una nilikha ang mga itlog at malimlim sa kanilang sarili at mapisa ng kanya hehehe labag sa nature yan na bigla nalang sumulpot ang itlog at walang lumimlim napisa ng kanya at nabuhay naging manok hehe

 

[alist1986]

Sa Bible nakasulat nilikha ang mga hayop
Wala naman nakasulat sa Bible na una nilikha ang mga itlog at malimlim sa kanilang sarili at mapisa ng kanya hehehe labag sa nature yan na bigla nalang sumulpot ang itlog at walang lumimlim napisa ng kanya at nabuhay naging manok hehe

He he, Ok. I'll respect your answer. That's actually another scientific puzzle. Sabi ko na nga ba't lalabas yang article na yan he he.
Ang tanong kasi, sino ang nauna sa itlog (kahit anong itlog) at manok (kahit anong manok). Kaya yung binigay kong explanation ay yung logical at "universally" accepted answer based on that understanding of that question. Amphibians (egg-laying animals) ang first land animals bago nag-evolve yung feathered creatures like birds (egg-laying species) and later on chickens.
Ang explanation mo sa taas ay kung sino ang nauna sa "itlog na nanggaling sa manok" at "manok na nanggaling sa itlog". And that is truly what they wanted to prove. Good.
He he. Di ko na kokontrahin yang sagot mo't magkaiba tayo ng paniniwala. Nice talking to you na lang, and wish we meet again somewhere in the forum and discuss other things.

 

[Rendon_Labrador]

totoo ba si Jesus?

Good Question! Same tyo tanong dati.

Hindi ako naniniwala kay Jesus dati, for short hate na hate ko siya dati.

Babaero ako nun dati, mainitin ulo, minumura ko nanay, dami pa...

One time nakatulog ako..nakita ko si Jesus niligtas ung kaluluwa ng babae, me nakalagay na word na "SAVED JESUS"..then 7months ako hindi makatulog..naiiyak ako gabi gabi, search ako ng search sino ba si Jesus..tinanggap ko siya sa buhay ko, laki pinagbago ko, yung dating ako patay na.

Alam mo yun, meron akong real happiness, peace of mind, humaba lalo patience ko literal, hindi ako perfect pero binabago ako ni Jesus everyday.

Ansarap ung feeling complete ka lagi, me kulay na buhay ko,kay ang saya! ^_^

Kaya dun nag start nung sinuko ko buhay ko kay Jesus at pinapasok ko siya sa puso ko

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Pre athiest ka kasi kaya paniwala ka sa mga evolution ng mga tao at hayop
Ayaw mo maniwala sa creation
Di talaga ako paniwala sa evolution,bakit hanggang ngayon may unggoy padin kawawa naman sila hindi naging tao sa tinagaltagal nilang nag exist sa mundo hehehe tapos bakit daw may tao pa na mukhang kabayo tanong ng isa nating kaphc hehe

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Hindi galing sa amphibians ang manok woi
Manok talaga yan sila sa umpisa matapos silang lalangin
Panay scientific puzzle ang nalalaman nyo,kaya puzzle sa inyo kasi mali ang paniwala nyo at wala kasi naganap na ebolusyon panay theory lang kayo wala padin napapatunayan ayaw nyo maniwala sa totoo panay katha, katha
Tulad ng iba pang mga hayop hindi yan sila nag evolved kalokohan yan evolution.
Tulad nalang sa sinasabi nilang nagmula ang tao sa unggoy ,ikaw nalang maniwala na isa kang unggoy bahala ka hehe

 

[3rdy]

Who named our planet earth?

 

[Rendon_Labrador]

Who named our planet earth?

God

 

[Frustrated Burger]

Tama si God nagpangalan sa earth na earth
Nakasulat sa Bible yan na tinawag na lupa in english ground o soil

 

[AMIDST]

Yep. I agree with the Thread Starter. Question Everything.

Now, did you bother to question his question?

 

[mobilelegends08]

Good Question! Same tyo tanong dati.

Hindi ako naniniwala kay Jesus dati, for short hate na hate ko siya dati.

Babaero ako nun dati, mainitin ulo, minumura ko nanay, dami pa...

One time nakatulog ako..nakita ko si Jesus niligtas ung kaluluwa ng babae, me nakalagay na word na "SAVED JESUS"..then 7months ako hindi makatulog..naiiyak ako gabi gabi, search ako ng search sino ba si Jesus..tinanggap ko siya sa buhay ko, laki pinagbago ko, yung dating ako patay na.

Alam mo yun, meron akong real happiness, peace of mind, humaba lalo patience ko literal, hindi ako perfect pero binabago ako ni Jesus everyday.

Ansarap ung feeling complete ka lagi, me kulay na buhay ko,kay ang saya! ^_^

Kaya dun nag start nung sinuko ko buhay ko kay Jesus at pinapasok ko siya sa puso ko

amen brother

 

[binjungg]

Hahahaha natawa ako sa thread nato. Ang dami kong nalaman. More please! Waal po akong tanong, di ako maka isip this time. Gusto ko lang ma suscribe sa thread na ito kaya ako nag comment.

Pero sge let's give it a try, may tanong na pala ako while composing this comment.

Totoo ba talaga ang mga multo? How about ung mga tinatawag nating nasapi'an ng demonyo?

 

[Eiji]

dami kong natutunan aa. hahah. tanong ko po, ano pong mas marami, yong 18" na pizza or 2 na 12" na pizza? hehe

 

[Mad-hater]

Bakit po hindi pwdi maghalo yung atlantic at pacific ocean sa karagatan?

 

[NOLIFE_]

Paano nabuo ang Earth?