🕯️ Traditions What Was the Original Sin?

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The Bible’s answer​

Adam and Eve were the first humans to sin. When they disobeyed God by eating from “the tree of the knowledge of good and bad,” they committed what many call the original sin.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) That tree was off-limits to Adam and Eve because it represented God’s authority, or right, to decide what is right and wrong for humans. By eating from the tree, Adam and Eve took matters into their own hands, choosing to decide for themselves what is right and wrong. In doing so, they rejected God’s moral authority.

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How did the “original sin” affect Adam and Eve?​

Because they sinned, Adam and Eve grew old and finally died. They ruined their friendship with God and lost the prospect of living forever in perfect health.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

How does the “original sin” affect us?​

Adam and Eve passed on their sinful condition to all their descendants. This is similar to the way human parents pass on genetic defects. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Thus, all humans have been born “in sin,”You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. meaning that we are born imperfect and inclined toward error.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

Because of inherited sin, or imperfection, we get sick, grow old, and die. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) We also suffer the consequences of our own errors and those of others.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

Can we be set free from the results of the “original sin”?​

Yes. The Bible says that Jesus died “as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.” (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now., footnote) Jesus’ sacrifice can free us from the effects of inherited sin and allow us to have what Adam and Eve lost—the prospect of everlasting life in perfect health.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.

Misconceptions about “original sin”​

Misconception: Original sin permanently alienates us from God.

Fact: God does not blame us for what Adam and Eve did. He understands that we are imperfect, and he does not expect more of us than he knows is reasonable. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Even though we suffer from inherited sin, we have the opportunity and privilege of having a close friendship with God.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

Misconception: Baptism frees a person from original sin, so babies need to be baptized.

Fact: Although baptism is a vital step toward gaining salvation, only faith in Jesus’ sacrifice can cleanse a person from sin. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) Because Biblical faith is based on knowledge, it is not possible for infants to have faith. The Bible, therefore, does not endorse infant baptism. This fact was evident among the early Christians. They baptized, not babies, but believers—“men and women” who had faith in God’s Word.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

Misconception: God cursed women because Eve was the first to eat the forbidden fruit.

Fact: Instead of cursing women, God cursed “the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan,” who incited Eve to sin. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) What is more, God placed the primary responsibility for the original sin on Adam, not on his wife.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

Why did God say that Adam would dominate his wife? (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) When making this statement, God was not condoning such behavior. He was simply foretelling a sad consequence of sin. God expects a man to love and honor his wife and to show deep respect for women in general.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

Misconception: The original sin was sexual intercourse.

Fact: The original sin could not have been sexual intercourse for the following reasons:

• God commanded Adam not to eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and bad while Adam was still alone, without a wife.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
• God instructed Adam and Eve to “be fruitful and become many”—that is, to have children. (You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.) It would have been cruel for God to punish the first couple for doing what he had commanded them to do.
• Adam and Eve sinned separately—Eve first and her husband later.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
• The Bible approves of sexual relations between a husband and wife.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..

You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. The E×ρréššion “original sin” is not found in the Bible. In reality, the very first sin recorded in the Bible is Satan’s deceptive speech and his outright lie to Eve.—You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now.You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now..
You do not have permission to view the full content of this post. Log in or register now. In the Bible, the word “sin” refers not only to wrong deeds but also to the imperfect, or sinful, condition that we have inherited.
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Sin = guilt. Inosente si Adam at Eve. It means, wala siyang sin. Hindi sila nagkakaroon ng guilt dahil hindi pa pumapasok ang sin dahil inosente po sila, kung kaya, kahit sa sarili katawan nila na h(u)bo at hùbád, wala sila guilt sapagkat hindi nila alam ang tama at mali, masama at mabuti. Iyan ang naturalisa na walang damit at inosente, at child-innocent like.

Nang nagkasala sila galing sa fruit of tree of knowledge, andoon lang sila nagkaisip kung ano ang tama at mali, masama at mabuti. Naandoon din sila nagkaroon ng guilt kung kaya, nagkasala na po sila. Ang guilt na iyon ang siyang dahilan na bakit nagkaroon ng malisya sa sarili nila katawan, as a result, nagkaisip sila na takpan ang kanilang katawan na hindi naglaon, iyon na ang damit na suot-suot natin.

They are not innocent anymore. Nagka-knowledge na po kasi sila. Iyon ang sin na ipinamana ng generation ng generation ng mga anak.

And then, nang nagkaroon sila ng knowledge dahil sa fruit of knowledge galing of tree of knowledge, iyan na ang simula din ng pagkakaroon ng sekswal na karunungan. Meron na po sila knowledge in seks. Dahil nga, they are not innocent anymore. Meron na po kasi sila knowledge in seks, kung saan ito ang dahilan kung bakit tayo napadami.

So to go to afterlife, ang nakikita ko is we need to go back to our child-innocent like, pure at innocent, walang malice. Iyon pagkakaintindi ko. Hindi matatanggal ang sin dahil naandiyan na iyan, like hindi na tayo pwede bumalik na naka h(u)bad or whatever and just act innocent na parang okay-okay lang pero pwede ba tayo bumalik kung saan we are like little children. E, sa bible, nakalagay na madali raw makarating sa langit ang little children and ang dahilan nito is inosente kasi ang mga bata.

Iyon lang ang pagkakaintindi ko, like kung magmamahal sila, magmahal sila na walang pride, kapag nasaktan, walang pride, iiyak nila iyan and then, after that, bati na. Unlike ãdül† or tayo matatanda, ang galit natin ay tumatagal at hindi madali magpatawad. Pagkatapos, kapag magmamahal ay imbis focus kung ano nasa present moment, busy sa kakalungkat ng past experience ~ mga ganun ba?

Iyon ang sa tingin ko daan sa afterlife.
Ewan ko lang ang interpretasyon ng iba.

Kaya nga, for me, hindi maganda na halimbawa, meron tao na inborn Pagan kung saan since child at environment niya, moral values niya ay iba ang nakasanayan niya. Pagkatapos biglang isisingit na keyso maniwala only in one God na keyso iyon lang ang truth and nothing but the whole truth, and ang tao na iyon ay mapupunta sa hell kapag hindi mag pa convert dahil iyon ang whole truth since, sa kanila kasi ay polytheistic ang way of beliefs nila ~ you see, innocent po sila. Walang pumapasok sa kanila ang ganoon thinking. Kapag nagkaroon sila ng guilt, if ever, means nagkaroon sila ng knowledge at kung naipasok iyan sa utak nila, malamang nagkasala na sila lalo na kapag meron silang guilt. Andoon na kasi ang guilt at nagkanowledge na sila kung ano ang tama at mali, masama at mabuti. Iyan ang sin. Sin na ang tawag diyan. Eh di sana, hindi na lang sana sila pinabulabog ang kunsensya nila or else, magkakasala talaga sila. As a result, magpapaconvert sila.

Ganun.

Kaya, sa akin lang naman, nakakarating ang tao sa afterlife depende sa state of mind ang meron kanya. Hindi siya talaga literal na hell at heaven. State of mind po siya so kung itinuro is ang hell is sunog, natural, sunog ang makikita. Kung iba ang description ng heaven na itinuro, ganoon din ang madadatnan niya. Depende lang po.

Ang hell kasi na nakikita ko is based on feeling regret, trauma, hellish experience, past experience na sobrang bad na hindi maka move on ~ guilt driven siya at walang peace of mind and so, when they die, madadala din nila sa kabilang buhay. Iyan ang sinasabi ng iba na punishment daw na sila rin ang may gawa ng sarili nilang multo.​

 

[Gudguding Aso]

Sin = guilt. Inosente si Adam at Eve. It means, wala siyang sin. Hindi sila nagkakaroon ng guilt dahil hindi pa pumapasok ang sin dahil inosente po sila, kung kaya, kahit sa sarili katawan nila na h(u)bo at hùbád, wala sila guilt sapagkat hindi nila alam ang tama at mali, masama at mabuti. Iyan ang naturalisa na walang damit at inosente, at child-innocent like.

Nang nagkasala sila galing sa fruit of tree of knowledge, andoon lang sila nagkaisip kung ano ang tama at mali, masama at mabuti. Naandoon din sila nagkaroon ng guilt kung kaya, nagkasala na po sila. Ang guilt na iyon ang siyang dahilan na bakit nagkaroon ng malisya sa sarili nila katawan, as a result, nagkaisip sila na takpan ang kanilang katawan na hindi naglaon, iyon na ang damit na suot-suot natin.

They are not innocent anymore. Nagka-knowledge na po kasi sila. Iyon ang sin na ipinamana ng generation ng generation ng mga anak.

And then, nang nagkaroon sila ng knowledge dahil sa fruit of knowledge galing of tree of knowledge, iyan na ang simula din ng pagkakaroon ng sekswal na karunungan. Meron na po sila knowledge in seks. Dahil nga, they are not innocent anymore. Meron na po kasi sila knowledge in seks, kung saan ito ang dahilan kung bakit tayo napadami.

So to go to afterlife, ang nakikita ko is we need to go back to our child-innocent like, pure at innocent, walang malice. Iyon pagkakaintindi ko. Hindi matatanggal ang sin dahil naandiyan na iyan, like hindi na tayo pwede bumalik na naka h(u)bad or whatever and just act innocent na parang okay-okay lang pero pwede ba tayo bumalik kung saan we are like little children. E, sa bible, nakalagay na madali raw makarating sa langit ang little children and ang dahilan nito is inosente kasi ang mga bata.

Iyon lang ang pagkakaintindi ko, like kung magmamahal sila, magmahal sila na walang pride, kapag nasaktan, walang pride, iiyak nila iyan and then, after that, bati na. Unlike ãdül† or tayo matatanda, ang galit natin ay tumatagal at hindi madali magpatawad. Pagkatapos, kapag magmamahal ay imbis focus kung ano nasa present moment, busy sa kakalungkat ng past experience ~ mga ganun ba?

Iyon ang sa tingin ko daan sa afterlife.
Ewan ko lang ang interpretasyon ng iba.

Kaya nga, for me, hindi maganda na halimbawa, meron tao na inborn Pagan kung saan since child at environment niya, moral values niya ay iba ang nakasanayan niya. Pagkatapos biglang isisingit na keyso maniwala only in one God na keyso iyon lang ang truth and nothing but the whole truth, and ang tao na iyon ay mapupunta sa hell kapag hindi mag pa convert dahil iyon ang whole truth since, sa kanila kasi ay polytheistic ang way of beliefs nila ~ you see, innocent po sila. Walang pumapasok sa kanila ang ganoon thinking. Kapag nagkaroon sila ng guilt, if ever, means nagkaroon sila ng knowledge at kung naipasok iyan sa utak nila, malamang nagkasala na sila lalo na kapag meron silang guilt. Andoon na kasi ang guilt at nagkanowledge na sila kung ano ang tama at mali, masama at mabuti. Iyan ang sin. Sin na ang tawag diyan. Eh di sana, hindi na lang sana sila pinabulabog ang kunsensya nila or else, magkakasala talaga sila. As a result, magpapaconvert sila.

Ganun.

Kaya, sa akin lang naman, nakakarating ang tao sa afterlife depende sa state of mind ang meron kanya. Hindi siya talaga literal na hell at heaven. State of mind po siya so kung itinuro is ang hell is sunog, natural, sunog ang makikita. Kung iba ang description ng heaven na itinuro, ganoon din ang madadatnan niya. Depende lang po.

Ang hell kasi na nakikita ko is based on feeling regret, trauma, hellish experience, past experience na sobrang bad na hindi maka move on ~ guilt driven siya at walang peace of mind and so, when they die, madadala din nila sa kabilang buhay. Iyan ang sinasabi ng iba na punishment daw na sila rin ang may gawa ng sarili nilang multo.​

Basta kwentong "hubaran" ang dami mong alam.haha

 

[Asherah Goddess]

Basta kwentong "hubaran" ang dami mong alam.haha​

Eh kasi....... originally, wala naman talaga tayo damit kahit sinauna pa ng tao pagkatapos hindi pa ipinabuklat sa atin ang sarili natin katawan. Nilagyan ng malisyo o malice kung tawagin , kung kaya , imbis malinis siya , well , ginawa siyang madumi.

Actually, ang damit natin is "artificial" po siya eh. Ang naturalisa talaga is naka hubo at hùbád tayo. Wala siyang halong sekwal o whatever like kapag bata na tumatakbo na naka hùbád , no malice po.

Iyon kasi ang natutunan ko.

Alam niyo ba ang "nudism" po? Naniniwala kasi ang mga tao na taga-"nudism" na ang mga damit na suot natin is "artificial" po. Wala siyang kilalaman sa sekswal. Walang malice kung baga and so , ang ipinapagana nila is naturalisa ng sariling katawan.

Kahit sa "NeoPagan" po ay part ng norms po ay naka hubo at hùbád dahil para makapagconnect sa 'nature-based' po pero hindi siya 'mandatory' kung tawagin dahil meron ibang tao na taga 'Neopagan' na uncomfortable sila na naka hùbád. So kapag some kind of event like 'bonfire' or whatever , well , ang iba sa kanila ay naka hùbád habang sumasayaw po pero meron iba naman na nakadamit. Hindi siya mandatory unlike sa Abrahamic beliefs , kasalanan ang naka hùbád o nakikita ang skin mismo lalo na sa babae especially women although both men and women na rin po, so acceptable lang within their belief system ang babae na nakadamit.

All in all, mostly, nakakayanan lang respetuhin ng tao ang babae kapag meron saplot sa katawan unlike sa NeoPagan, ke meron saplot or wala, respectable pa rin ang tao dahil like I said, wala siyang malice ika nga. Meron silang moral at ethics na sinusunod or part ng norms like bawal ang madadaldal na lalake like 'ecatcalling' ang babae po porket naka hùbád o makita lang ang cleavage or sigawan lang ng 'seksi' - unethical iyon according kung anong normal within the same group.

Kung kaya , kapag pagmamasdan , ang mga babae na taga NeoPagan ay comfortable sila kung ano ang isuot nila na meron nakasuot na kita ang cleavage , meron naman naka long sleeve , meron din naka sleeveless..... absolutely na they can wear the clothes whatever na gusto nila na isuot na bagay sa kanila at comfortable dahil part kasi ng belief nila na naka hùbád po pero hindi siya mandatory. Kasi nga , kapag nakahuband, nakakapagconnect sila sa 'nature-based' which is ang concept nila is meron rebirth, fertilty.... mga ganun. Cycle siya na meron night and day. Unlike sa atin , like us , makitaan lang ng ganoon klaseng damit na isuot ang babae , elalabel agad na 'keyso ang babae ay belong to the street' kuno, wala naman valid explanation kung bakit. Basta naglabel sila negatively.

It is not a sin. Hindi siya sin because they do not feel any guilt at all dahil no malice ang kanila. Natutunan ko din iyan sa babae na mentor na para ma get rid of malisyo sa utak ng tao , ememeditate o etetrain ang sarili mind para mabuklat sa isip na ang sarili natin katawan ay malinis at hindi madumi na walang halong malice.

Ganun po.

It is all in the mind kasi na kung ano ang meron malisyo sa atin o wala. E malisyo na nga sa Islam na balutin ang babae na ulo hanggang paa pero kapag hinubad daw , hùbád na raw iyon kahit meron naman shirt at pantalon. Ano lang siya , nasa mind lang ng tao po kung kagaano ka malisyo ang meron sa utak natin. Lahat is a state of mind po. So ang sin na itinutukoy , guilt po siya. Guilt po. So if ang tao ay ginagawa niya ang sitwasyon na alam niyang mali , literally, alam niya na mali pero ginawa pa rin niya ~ andoon ang sense of guilt. Sin siya. Ginawa niya ang sitwasyon na alam niya na mali dahil meron siya knowledge kung ano ang tama at mali. Iyon po.​