Bo(ng)Bong Marcos On Pastor Quibs Voluntary Surrender.

“NAPILITAN SIYANG LUMABAS DAHIL MALAPIT NA ANG PULIS SA KANYA”

President Bongbong Marcos issues a clarification amid the brouhaha surrounding the ‘arrest’ or ‘surrender’ of Kingdom of Jesus Christ (KOJC) founder Pastor Apollo C. Quiboloy to authorities inside the KOJC compound on September 8, 2024. RONALD SIONGCO/GDM

IMAGES: Screenshot via PTV / Israelito Torreon FB

 

[ZummerSoltice]

Natagalan dahil grabe protekta ng kulto sakanya. Nung hearing ni Stone, todo protekta din sakanya. Sinabi pa ni Stone na wag na daw ituloy ang paghukay. Buti tinuloy ni Gen. torre

So di kulto yung Catholic boss? knowing eh nanggaling sa kanila si Quibs at ng iba pang religion na paniniwala ay galing sa BIBLE?

 

[plhbg1]

Natagalan dahil grabe protekta ng kulto sakanya. Nung hearing ni Stone, todo protekta din sakanya. Sinabi pa ni Stone na wag na daw ituloy ang paghukay. Buti tinuloy ni Gen. torre

hehe protekta? nasa compound ba si Quibz bossing?

 

[Juxatopose03]

The problem po ay yung Law breaker na mga mamamayan din which are easily disguised as "law abiding citizens", yan nangyare sa kasagsasgan ng curfew hours ng martial law. Sobrang hirap i distinguish yan kaya any suspicions noon ay considered true. Kaya nangyayare yang collaterals na yan.
Exactly why the drug war failed so badly too.

i don't think martial law allows persecution of the law abiding citizens despite being imposed to the law breakers

Kahit halata naman ginagawa ng gobyerno is against the previous admin.

Unfortunately, Hindi sa intentions ni BBM yan, binabalikan lang ng mga Liberals si DU30 sa dami ng ginawa nyang kaaway. Kung titignan mong mabuti, too lenient nga si BBM sa DU30s kase may pinagsamahan sila kahit as partymates lang dati. Pinipilit lang nila Trillanes, De lima atbp na ipitin lahat ng DDS. Kasamaang palad, hindi sya pwede idefend ni BBM 100% para ma maintain nya ang unprejudiced justice ng Govt.

 

[plhbg1]

The problem po ay yung Law breaker na mga mamamayan din which are easily disguised as "law abiding citizens", yan nangyare sa kasagsasgan ng curfew hours ng martial law. Sobrang hirap i distinguish yan kaya any suspicions noon ay considered true. Kaya nangyayare yang collaterals na yan.

could you explain saan banda naging mahirap i-distinguish bossing? parang auto-claim ka lang ata

Exactly why the drug war failed so badly too.

i don't think a failed action can impact this much that even international entities ay nakiki-alam

Kung titignan mong mabuti, too lenient nga si BBM sa DU30s kase may pinagsamahan sila kahit as partymates lang dati.

agree ako dito, bangag junior almost does not exist, mas ramdam ko pa ang stage presence ni LAM

Pinipilit lang nila Trillanes, De lima atbp na ipitin lahat ng DDS. Kasamaang palad, hindi sya pwede idefend ni BBM 100% para ma maintain nya ang unprejudiced justice ng Govt.

they are just making themselves relevant bossing, after all they are politicians

 

[Juxatopose03]

could you explain saan banda naging mahirap i-distinguish bossing? parang auto-claim ka lang ata

Ganto may maganda example ako bossing, may nasakyan akong Grab driver na galit kay FEM eh kase nahuli sya sa curfew hours that time ng Martial Law, nasa Park lang daw sila noon at may mga kasama sya na nag kwe kwentuhan lang daw sila. Napasarap daw kwentuhan nila wala naman daw ginagawang masama. But alam nila yung curfew hours. I coconsider mo ba silang rule breaker?

Sobrang thin ng gray area na yan, pero rule breaking ang ginawa nila. Dinampot sila ng militar saka pinag community service.
Hindi naman sila NPA nor anti gov't dati pero yung meeting hours nila ay same kasi sa suspected meeting hours ng mga rebelde noon.

 

[plhbg1]

Ganto may maganda example ako bossing, may nasakyan akong Grab driver na galit kay FEM eh kase nahuli sya sa curfew hours that time ng Martial Law, nasa Park lang daw sila noon at may mga kasama sya na nag kwe kwentuhan lang daw sila. Napasarap daw kwentuhan nila wala naman daw ginagawang masama. But alam nila yung curfew hours. I coconsider mo ba silang rule breaker?

of course jusko lerd apaka obvious niyan

Sobrang thin ng gray area na yan, pero rule breaking ang ginawa nila. Dinampot sila ng militar saka pinag community service.
Hindi naman sila NPA nor anti gov't dati pero yung meeting hours nila ay same kasi sa suspected meeting hours ng mga rebelde noon.

ah kaya pala since rebelde lang ang law-breaker for you

 

[Juxatopose03]

i don't think a failed action can impact this much that even international entities ay nakiki-alam

Mga Yellow parties nga nag imbita dito ng foreign entities eh, Si Robredo pa nanguna at nag campaign at siniraan ang Admin nung nasa pwesto pa sya. Hindi nga dapat pinapayagan yung international investigation but the nasa banner sila ng Human rights, rejecting them out will cause people to speculate na something anti human rights is happening sa bansa and even BBM Administration ang mag cocover up dito. USA investigation ang tinutukoy mo tama? which is still one of the top influencers sa mundo. Which is why yung pag payag nila to let them in ay mabigat na decision para sa current admin.

agree ako dito, bangag junior almost does not exist, mas ramdam ko pa ang stage presence ni LAM

So far, yung stage presence na sinasabi mo dito, saan na naman po galing to? feeling ko sa vlogger na naman bossing, wala syang authority to make national change. At yung puppeteering na conspiracy na yan is still in the creative imagination ng mga content creators unless a case is proven. Wag ka mashado po magpadala jaan alam ko Evidence based ka mag isip eh.

they are just making themselves relevant bossing, after all they are politicians

May public statements nga yung mga pinakulong ni Du30 to vow their revenge eh. Eto na yun as expected, effective parin yung Human rights banner nila at mahihirapan si DU30 i ward off yun kase baka meron talaga syang Death squad dati if wala naman, his words will come back to bite him...

of course jusko lerd apaka obvious niyan

Okay introduction lang po yun hehe. Yung ganito kabilis na judgement making ang downfall ng military noon.
Collaterals were not sanctioned by the President, the decree is to make people obey po the rules, anyone who does not obey are violating the law at yung decision making kung violators sila ay yung basic militia.

ah kaya pala since rebelde lang ang law-breaker for you

Eto yung gray area, since All rebelde are against the Law of the Govt but not all law breakers are rebelde.
Yung justifications cannot be simply by words of "hindi naman ako rebelde, kahit itanong mo sa kakilala ko". Taking intensive investigations for the matter po will cripple the government down kaya for efficiencey, Martial law became absolute. Ang mali doon ay hindi sanctioned at hindi din coordinated lahat ng mga judgement na ginawa ng basic militants. That is why kung mapapansin mo, ang phrase ng Marcos Presidents, they admit na Human rights were violated but none of them were specifically ordered.

ah kaya pala since rebelde lang ang law-breaker for you

Ngayon kung babalik po tayo kay Quibs, Law breaker sya, and so far ndi naman yata Rebelde.... But then, sinummon sya ng Court pero nagtago sya. May warrant na, pero yung mga supporters nila ay hinaharangan ang authority to carry out the arrest. Mabuti pa nga na hindi pinag dadampot ang mga tao for Justice Obstruction eh. Trust me as much as gusto mo ng absolute rule, the after backlash could be extremely dangerous...

 

[plhbg1]

Mga Yellow parties nga nag imbita dito ng foreign entities eh, Si Robredo pa nanguna at nag campaign at siniraan ang Admin nung nasa pwesto pa sya. Hindi nga dapat pinapayagan yung international investigation but the nasa banner sila ng Human rights, rejecting them out will cause people to speculate na something anti human rights is happening sa bansa and even BBM Administration ang mag cocover up dito. USA investigation ang tinutukoy mo tama? which is still one of the top influencers sa mundo. Which is why yung pag payag nila to let them in ay mabigat na decision para sa current admin.

you just confirmed na nakiki-alam nga ang international entities

So far, yung stage presence na sinasabi mo dito, saan na naman po galing to? feeling ko sa vlogger na naman bossing, wala syang authority to make national change. At yung puppeteering na conspiracy na yan is still in the creative imagination ng mga content creators unless a case is proven. Wag ka mashado po magpadala jaan alam ko Evidence based ka mag isip eh.

not just vlogger bossing at given na yan na she has no power over government so si bangag junior pa din yung actual

May public statements nga yung mga pinakulong ni Du30 to vow their revenge eh. Eto na yun as expected, effective parin yung Human rights banner nila at mahihirapan si DU30 i ward off yun kase baka meron talaga syang Death squad dati if wala naman, his words will come back to bite him...

of course hindi pwedeng hindi revenge yun or else they won't be relevant

 

[Juxatopose03]

you just confirmed na nakiki-alam nga ang international entities

Nasa news naman na yata na wanted sya under FBI eh i cannot confirm na nakikialam na sila currently but its the FBI, pwede naman yata sila makialam without public notice eh...

not just vlogger bossing at given na yan na she has no power over government so si bangag junior pa din yung actual

Last time kase na humingi ako ng link mo sir yung sa vlogger ang binigay mo eh hehe so far these are still empty accusations. Madali pa naman mag forge ng mga Reciepts and documents na kaya walang nag lalapag ng hard copy since last time na may umakyat sa korte about sa LAM na yan, nagmuka pang ***** yung resource person kase pinapaikot lang daw pala nya yung kine kwentong barbero nya

 

[plhbg1]

Okay introduction lang po yun hehe. Yung ganito kabilis na judgement making ang downfall ng military noon.
Collaterals were not sanctioned by the President, the decree is to make people obey po the rules, anyone who does not obey are violating the law at yung decision making kung violators sila ay yung basic militia.

Eto yung gray area, since All rebelde are against the Law of the Govt but not all law breakers are rebelde.
Yung justifications cannot be simply by words of "hindi naman ako rebelde, kahit itanong mo sa kakilala ko". Taking intensive investigations for the matter po will cripple the government down kaya for efficiencey, Martial law became absolute. Ang mali doon ay hindi sanctioned at hindi din coordinated lahat ng mga judgement na ginawa ng basic militants. That is why kung mapapansin mo, ang phrase ng Marcos Presidents, they admit na Human rights were violated but none of them were specifically ordered.

nasa harap mo na ang violation ng curfew need mo pa mag decide? haha

Ngayon kung babalik po tayo kay Quibs, Law breaker sya, and so far ndi naman yata Rebelde.... But then, sinummon sya ng Court pero nagtago sya. May warrant na, pero yung mga supporters nila ay hinaharangan ang authority to carry out the arrest. Mabuti pa nga na hindi pinag dadampot ang mga tao for Justice Obstruction eh. Trust me as much as gusto mo ng absolute rule, the after backlash could be extremely dangerous...

it is not for you to decide if law-breaker si Quibz at KOJC bossing, palagi mong ipasok sa utak mo that you are mandated by the constitution to presume Quibz and KOJC as innocent until the courts decide otherwise

 

[Juxatopose03]

nasa harap mo na ang violation ng curfew need mo pa mag decide? haha

it is not for you to decide if law-breaker si Quibz at KOJC bossing, palagi mong ipasok sa utak mo that you are mandated by the constitution to presume Quibz and KOJC as innocent until courts decide otherwise

the ironic contradiction sa statement na to. Obstruction of Justice ng KOJC?
Yung pag tatago ni Quibz sa warrant arrest nya cannot be considered fugitive actions?
-"nasa harap mo na ang violation need mo pa mag decide?"

 

[plhbg1]

Nasa news naman na yata na wanted sya under FBI eh i cannot confirm na nakikialam na sila currently but its the FBI, pwede naman yata sila makialam without public notice eh...

then you actually support my argument that a failed action won't impact that much

Last time kase na humingi ako ng link mo sir yung sa vlogger ang binigay mo eh hehe so far these are still empty accusations. Madali pa naman mag forge ng mga Reciepts and documents na kaya walang nag lalapag ng hard copy since last time na may umakyat sa korte about sa LAM na yan, nagmuka pang ***** yung resource person kase pinapaikot lang daw pala nya yung kine kwentong barbero nya

ehehe if naka monitor ka sa news section, meron mga international visits, PCG interference, construction of centers, etc. kaya mas ramdam ko ang stage presence ni LAM since she does more for someone who has nothing to do with the government

the ironic contradiction sa statement na to. Obstruction of Justice ng KOJC?
Yung pag tatago ni Quibz sa warrant arrest nya cannot be considered fugitive actions?

i said it is not for us to decide, but if you want my opinion then it is the police ang nanira sa likuran ng kingdom habang nag-uusap sa harapan si torre at torreon, at wala ding law that prohibits a person from becoming a fugitive, being a fugitive only serves as additional circumstantial evidence of possible guilt

-"nasa harap mo na ang violation need mo pa mag decide?"

warrantless arrest is legal under martial law bossing

 

[Juxatopose03]

then you actually support my argument that a failed action won't impact that much

I really didn't much give attention to that. Paki elaborate nalang salamats.

ehehe if naka monitor ka sa news section, meron mga international visits, PCG interference, construction of centers, etc. kaya mas ramdam ko ang stage presence ni LAM since she does more for someone who has nothing to do with the government

I thought it was a thing na nag iinternational visits ang first ladies... but concerning government moves, authorized padin ni President dapat yan lalo if concern ng national security yan. Sadya yatang mainit lang mata ng mga tao sa kanya gawa ng mga creative conspiracies ulit.

i said it is not for us to decide, but if you want my opinion then it is the police ang nanira sa likuran ng kingdom habang nag-uusap sa harapan si torre at torreon, at wala ding law that prohibits a person from becoming a fugitive, being a fugitive only serves as additional circumstantial evidence of possible guilt

Kasamaang palad, still obstruction of justice padin naman yung pagtatago ni Quibz sa arrest warrant nya, KOJC followers did the same kase hinarang naman nila yung police eh... Like I've said, surrendering earlier could have prevented the escalation... Pagkakaalam ko ginuarantee pa nga ni Sen Bato yung safety ni Quibz eh idk...

Eto pa mas pinalala ng Du30 Party...

 

[plhbg1]

Kasamaang palad, still obstruction of justice padin naman yung pagtatago ni Quibz sa arrest warrant nya,

haha edi meron na din sanang obstruction of justice case si Quibz

KOJC followers did the same kase hinarang naman nila yung police eh...

weh? kitang kita naman sa live coverage na sinira na ng police ang likod ng kingdom habang nag-uusap sa front sina torre at torreon

Like I've said, surrendering earlier could have prevented the escalation...

i still support Quibz sa ginawa niya since it revealed lots of kabaliwan ng police

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Eto pa mas pinalala ng Du30 Party...

support din ako dito since nag-a-appeal pa yung Quibz camp

 

[GoatPhomator666]

Si Quiboloy at Macos ay parehong mga bangag. Parehong may sexual harassment at rape cases.

 

[Juxatopose03]

i still support Quibz sa ginawa niya since it revealed lots of kabaliwan ng police

it does not justify his misdeed of not complying with the law. But since personal preference mo na ang pag support kay Quibz, I will no longer pry on that, kita kits nalang sila in the court. If kabalbalan accusations din naman yung pinila nila sakanya, I'd support him too but then factual basis lang tayo dito.

support din ako dito since nag-a-appeal pa yung Quibz camp

Mas mali to sir, naglalakad sya sa sarili nyang hukay, this is nearly similar to harboring a fugitive... And he is a previous leader of the country trying to fight the current administration? Nalilito na yata si Lolo Dutz haha

 

[plhbg1]

it does not justify his misdeed of not complying with the law. But since personal preference mo na ang pag support kay Quibz, I will no longer pry on that, kita kits nalang sila in the court. If kabalbalan accusations din naman yung pinila nila sakanya, I'd support him too but then factual basis lang tayo dito.

yup the fact na there is no single documented evidence na iniha-in sa kanya aside from purely testimonial claims is already a signal

Mas mali to sir, naglalakad sya sa sarili nyang hukay, this is nearly similar to harboring a fugitive... And he is a previous leader of the country trying to fight the current administration? Nalilito na yata si Lolo Dutz haha

he doesn't fight the current admin, he is just administering the assets of Quibz bossing

 

[Juxatopose03]

he doesn't fight the current admin, he is just administering the assets of Quibz bossing

Previous actions nya before Quiboloy suggest seditions bossing eh diko alam kung saan galing yung hostility nya, either it's the pressure from external investigators or dahil hinahabol na sya ng mga inaway nya dati. Biruin mo, taas kamay nyang sinamahan si BBM sa campaign nya... Hindi nga sya vini view ni BBM as hostile intentions but Du30 actions are suggesting otherwise.

yup the fact na there is no single documented evidence na iniha-in sa kanya aside from purely testimonial claims is already a signal

exactly same claims made to BBM and allegations of LAM, so far walang nadadala sa korte eh. Last time na lumabas talaga yung LAM conspiracy na yan pinag tawanan lang yung resource person kase umamin sya sa court na gawa gawa lang daw nya yun...

 

[plhbg1]

Previous actions nya before Quiboloy suggest seditions bossing eh diko alam kung saan galing yung hostility nya, either it's the pressure from external investigators or dahil hinahabol na sya ng mga inaway nya dati. Biruin mo, taas kamay nyang sinamahan si BBM sa campaign nya... Hindi nga sya vini view ni BBM as hostile intentions but Du30 actions are suggesting otherwise.

auto-claim ka na naman boss, i don't remember digong endorsed bangag

exactly same claims made to BBM and allegations of LAM, so far walang nadadala sa korte eh. Last time na lumabas talaga yung LAM conspiracy na yan pinag tawanan lang yung resource person kase umamin sya sa court na gawa gawa lang daw nya yun...

di mo pa ata narinig yung iyakan ng mga bata bossing