Bat may pa libro si inday?

 

[vvictorr]

part yan ng pagbabago campaign ng OVP and i see nothing wrong for such initiative that shares friendship concepts to learners, our schools are focused on cognitive lessons and less are about emotional intelligence kaya i support this kind of initiative, di ko lang nagustuhan ang mga isinagot niya kay riza, apaka babaw ng sagot malayo sa sagot ni roque na pang lecture hehe so sara is weak type of leader din though ok naman initiatives niya pero she's not strong enough to defend it, after all approve pa din naman yung proposed budget niya

I dont know kung totoo to na meron daw siya malaking picture nia dun sa last page ng libro which is very wrong kac pera ng taong bayan ung gagamitin. Kung wala sana un goods naman ung project na un.

 

[plhbg1]

san ang iyak diyan? kala ko pa naman educated discussion to troll ka pala yata

umiiyak ka na sayang daw pera eh pano masasayang if di naman pala magagamit yung budget for publishing?

ha? hindi po exclusive sa education ang pag hingi ng better output. kahit saang part ng govertnment, we can and should demand a better output. at dahil ang project niya has something to with addressing the needs of learners, then the ovp should make a collaborative effort with the deped that would ensure that the project, includin the book, would effectively address the issue it aims to address. the government offices does not stand on their own, this is not a matter of specialty. even if it does, the ovp is mandated to ensure quality social welfare projects, which naturally includes quality output in the projects it involves with.

di daw exclusive sa education pero yung standards na ginamit ay sa education haha

ok ka lang ba? hindi porket sinabi kong dapat maayos ang work ay cinocompare ko siya sa ano mang standard ng deped na pinagssabi mo. hindi naman textbook ang pinaguusapan eh. story book yan, children's book. fictional! walang lessons na pagbabatayan ng curicculum jan kaya walang pakialam ang standards ng deped na sinasabi mong "isinasalang" ko. binasa mo ba ng maayos yung sinabi ko? saang parte ko nabanggit ko ang deped? juskoooo reading comprehension!!!! even thought the project is under the ovp, it would and should, connect with the government agencies to ensure maximum efficiency and quality of all parts of the project, including but not limited to that book. nasa mandato niya yan, mind you.

you don't need to say "DepED" bossing, yung paggamit mo lang ng educational standards already implies DepED

no one said na yung parrot ang nakakakuha ng benefit jusko, yung kwago ang main character diba, think from that perspective dapat. ang conclussion drawn from the ending ay iniisip ni kwago na tunay ka lang na kaibigan kung andyan ka sa panahon ng kanyang pangangailangan. if not, then u are not. relationship based on benefits. a long winded "nanjan lang pag may kailangan" to the other birds. yung story did not show what happened to the other birds when the disaster striked, di na ba sila "tunay" na kaibigan dahil hindi nila natulungan si kwago? nabanggit ko na sa previous responses ko to eh paulit ulit nalang jusko balikan mo nalang yun at basahin ulit

haha you mean tini-test lang pala ng kwago ang mga kaibigan niya? actually friends are meant to help each other bossing, naging true friend lang si parot due to the fact na he continues to be a friend despite the lack of benefits, hindi basehan ng pagiging true friend ang pag tulong bossing kasi nga friends are meant to help each other na, madi-differentiate mo lang yung true sa not true if tatanggalin na ang benefits, uulitin ko bossing, both true and not true friends are meant to help each other kahit pa benefit ang habol niyan tutulong at tutulong pa din yan, madi-differentiate mo lang ang true from not true by the time na tanggalin ang benefits

laging mong ginagamit yang salitang initiative. did you even do your research? yung campaign di lang yan next year sisimulan, ilang taon na yan. yang pamimigay niya ng bags? legacy work na nga ang tawag niya diyan from her run as davao mayor. you're not even using the word correctly, this is not an initiative, not a first step groundbreaking project. at ano yang sinasabi mong porket new ay wala ng standards? do you even know what are you saying? kelan pa naging ok lang na substandard ang mga bagay bagay porket bago? kaya nga may planning, consultation, at editing, may regulatory board pa, para maiwasan ang palpak, tas sasabihin mo na ok lang na bara bara? mukhang di ka familliar kung pano nagwowork sa mga projects and campaigns, kung ganyan ang ugali natin while scrutinizing all budget hearings aba goodbye philippines na talaga. "wala namang perfect sa initial stage" jusko that is not how this works. di naman nila babalikan yung mga estudyante to conduct a test, tas bibigyan ng "better, improved" book. kala mo sa social welfare projects, product testing?

haha ang point ko diyan is the fact that you expect a perfect start, initial ideas are rude bossing, hindi yan perfect agad

pano ba maensure na maayos ang quality ng libro, simple lang, do a review and edit the material ilatag for consultation with the academe, consult with the publishing houses, consult with renowned writers. madaming paraan para makagawa ng isang magandang output, hindi yung barabara lang. kala mo laro laro lang ang 10m na iaallocate na budget jan?

again, binasa mo ba yung sinulat ko? no one said don't give the students some books. we are saying give them better books. they deserve that. did I disqualify the project with that? if you think so, maybe you need to re evaluate your comprehension skills.

di ko sinasabing bawal i-measure since that is in fact the way to develop an initiative, kaya nga pino-push kita na iparating mo sa OVP yang findings mo at nang ma-integrate nila

and if the educ system really just focused only,as you said, only on cognitive learning, don't you think this consideration, those factors would have long since been addressed? if they really just focused on the cognitive development. standards for grades and competency will be so much higher, to the point that I would dare say that you would not move a grade higher if you don't understand basic reading and writing.

oversimplification yan bossing kasi until now no one has addressed the problem perfectly, meron lang ang best practices pero wala pa ring universal solution diyan sa dami ng factors involved

anyways, you focused on the wrong point. the real point is, hindi lang cognitive learning ang pinagtuunan ng pansin, merong avenues wherein EQ development was the highlight, so it is wrong to say na they only focused on cognitive learning.

di ko sinasabing walang EQ integration ang DepED, ang sinasabi ko ay hindi focused sa EQ ang DepED, basahin mo kasi ang curriculum ng DepED bossing para hindi opinion ang basis ng argument mo

just to be clear, once funded, published and distributed, di mo na yan madedevelop pa. pano yun? kukunin mo bawat kopya at papalitan with this newer and better book namadedevelop after the project? kung nakita mong may cons, ibig sabihin lang na hindi pa yan talaga handa, kumbaga hilaw pa and it needs time to develop, then let it develop first, bring it back to its development phase. kung di pa ready, wag ipublish, give it time to develop. di yan dinedevelop on the field like its some on the ground skill training. it is a physical book, once published and ready to read, it should already be a product of careful planning, developed to be a tool to achieve the goal of the campaign.

weh as if walang development na nangyayari sa mga books? haha

last ko na tong reply, di na interesting, walang matinong discussion, you just can't provide enough justification to your unnecessary glorification on that book. you're just tooting your own horn in glorifying that book

well it's up to you bossing

ang usapan si inday kung sino sino sinasali mo hilig mo din mandamay e. pag tangol mo pa yang plagiarized nyang gawa

die hard fan ni INDAY HAHAHAHHAA

weh para sayo si inday lang ang topic, pero para sakin mas topic dito ang proper utilization of funds

I dont know kung totoo to na meron daw siya malaking picture nia dun sa last page ng libro which is very wrong kac pera ng taong bayan ung gagamitin. Kung wala sana un goods naman ung project na un.

hehe convention ata sa mga libro na may details ng author bossing which picture and text pero i think OVP can do something about it

 

[Luciferium]

umiiyak ka na sayang daw pera eh pano masasayang if di naman pala magagamit yung budget for publishing?

di daw exclusive sa education pero yung standards na ginamit ay sa education haha

you don't need to say "DepED" bossing, yung paggamit mo lang ng educational standards already implies DepED

haha you mean tini-test lang pala ng kwago ang mga kaibigan niya? actually friends are meant to help each other bossing, naging true friend lang si parot due to the fact na he continues to be a friend despite the lack of benefits, hindi basehan ng pagiging true friend ang pag tulong bossing kasi nga friends are meant to help each other na, madi-differentiate mo lang yung true sa not true if tatanggalin na ang benefits, uulitin ko bossing, both true and not true friends are meant to help each other kahit pa benefit ang habol niyan tutulong at tutulong pa din yan, madi-differentiate mo lang ang true from not true by the time na tanggalin ang benefits

haha ang point ko diyan is the fact that you expect a perfect start, initial ideas are rude bossing, hindi yan perfect agad

di ko sinasabing bawal i-measure since that is in fact the way to develop an initiative, kaya nga pino-push kita na iparating mo sa OVP yang findings mo at nang ma-integrate nila

oversimplification yan bossing kasi until now no one has addressed the problem perfectly, meron lang ang best practices pero wala pa ring universal solution diyan sa dami ng factors involved

di ko sinasabing walang EQ integration ang DepED, ang sinasabi ko ay hindi focused sa EQ ang DepED, basahin mo kasi ang curriculum ng DepED bossing para hindi opinion ang basis ng argument mo

weh as if walang development na nangyayari sa mga books? haha

well it's up to you bossing

weh para sayo si inday lang ang topic, pero para sakin mas topic dito ang proper utilization of funds

hehe convention ata sa mga libro na may details ng author bossing which picture and text pero i think OVP can do something about it

para sayo proper utilization of funds? hahaha meron ngang confidential funds na ginastos ng 11 days lang. pag tatangol mo pa e. saka libro na paraprahase and andaming repetitive Nyan na stories. diba dapat dagdagan yung mga existing book or eupdate manlang which is mas better kesa gagawa ka ng libro na may muka nya pa HAHHHAHAHA. engot.

 

[plhbg1]

para sayo proper utilization of funds? hahaha meron ngang confidential funds na ginastos ng 11 days lang. pag tatangol mo pa e. saka libro na paraprahase and andaming repetitive Nyan na stories. diba dapat dagdagan yung mga existing book or eupdate manlang which is mas better kesa gagawa ka ng libro na may muka nya pa HAHHHAHAHA. engot.

50 pesos book still pass my standards bossing

 

[xXmartoXx]

pinipilit? have we gone too far in asking for a quality output? kung di vp si sara at normal lang siyang 'writer', tingin mo ba may publishing house na magtetake ng risk na ipublish ang libro niya seeing how it wasn't even proofread? nalaunch na yan november pa, pero bat napublish yan ng hindi dumadaan sa quality control? ni wala ngang nakasulat na editor eh, illustrated by lang. porket ba sinulat ng isang vice president, ay tatangapin nalang natin, di na kekwestyunin kung maayos o maganda ba yung content? Kung maaprove and budget magiging government funded book yan, dahil diyan mas lalong dapat siguraduhin na maayos at well thought out ang laman niyan, so we can say that the budget allocated was spent wisely. Kung ok ang content, no one will question the funding

for my part, never ako nag pilit ng standard, hindi ko rin hiniling na maibatay sa isang curriculum ang laman ng libro na yan dahil ibang usapin yun at walang kinalaman dito. All my posts are just responses to what you have said.

Ikaw ang nagsabi na helpful siya in developing EQ, sabi mo rin na only professionals knows how great this initiative is in eq development. now, All I did was analyze the content and asked kung effective nga ba ang content sa sinasabi mong pag develop ng EQ. since your previous replies seems to imply na you are one of those professional na kayang magsabi na ok ang content na ito for EQ development. I even provided my opinion on how I think it is bad in that particular area that you thought it was good for. so I asked, and you did not answer.​

I am just like risa asking what is the content of the book? and judging if that content is worth its budget allocation. Never did I say din na wag na magpalibro, I am not 'demonizing the intiative' as you say. I am just saying na the content of the book to be funded and distributed needs to be better.

As for you saying I should start my own initiative, for one, I am not obliged to do so, i'm not a public official mandated to create programs for social welfare, nor do I have the time, energy, budget and connections to kickstart my own initiative. Wala akong private yearly budget proposal for the creation of such initiatives. so that is a no <3


what? wala akong sinabing ganyan hahaha.

Again, here is the gist ogf how the story went, so you can understand what I mean by saying that the story is a depiction of friendship based only on benefits. Kwago was portrayed as someone who gives since "marangya ang buhay niya" sabi dun sa kwento na nawala yung "karangyaan" niya dahil sa kalamidad. nung walang wala siya at tinulungan siya nung Loro, nasabi niya na siya ay isang tunay na kaibigan. kaibigang andyan sa panahon ng delubyo and all that. (then finishing it with an outro saying Sara is a true friend, implying na andyan siya sa panahon ng sakuna at pangangailangan, very ironic I must say)

simpleng analysis lang naman yan kung gano kababaw yung storya. kung well thought out at walang political agenda in mind. the story could've gone numerous ways teaching different things, developing different facets of their EQ. I personally would've loved if it is something about maybe 'bayanihan' where all the birds helped each other, or 'utang na loob' where all birds who received something from kwago before, gave back in return, or something else entirely.


ok sige give ko na yan sayo, baka di ko nga alam ang cognitive learning lol tell me why that statement is wrong.


I, or those in question aren't asking for much, di rin naman holistic education ang hinihingi ko sa bise presidente sa project niyang yan. we just need to see that whatever they are planning to use the taxpayers money for, is worth it and so far it is not. we demand quality in anything and everything that is to be funded by the taxpayer's money. kasama naman siguro sa mandato niya na ang mga programa at kampanyang ilulunsad under sa opisina ay efficient, effective, etc... basically may quality.


I never said it was a useless initiative. For me no social welfare projects is useless, it is after all designed to provide assistance to the marginalized sector, but because of useless agendas from our politicians (not just this particular one), these programs loses focus on what it aims to do in the first place. And that is what I am pointing out from all of my reponses.

From what I am seeing from your replies, you are just trying to salvage whatever pros this book can give, wala na pake sa long list of cons, basically 'glorifying' it too much. Di porket may tiny benefit in proceeding with this book ay iignore na natin why it could be better.

Hindi nga papasa sa Q.C. kaya bypassed na lang si Q.C.


Check mo yung content, may mga maling spelling, pronounciation at literally non-existing words sa traditional filipino language doon.