🕯️ Traditions How do atheists regard the Ten Commandments?

[Asherah Goddess]

Red herring ka paps. Ikaw yung nag-claim tapos wala ka man lang source?

Madali lang naman talagang mag-google. May mga counter din sa mga claims ni Kaplok, paki-google na lang kung anu-ano yung mga yun. ​

Alam ko na hindi akin ito. Curious lang ako. Ano ang definition ng source? Nagbigay ang tao kung saan ipinagkukuhanan kasi pero nang binigay na, nagtatanong ka pa din?

Madali lang naman matagpuan sa online. Bible nga ay madali. Nasa bahay lang eh if meron, iyon na ang source and then kapag isinilip sa online, matatagpuan din siya.

Tanggapin na lang sa self na masakit at not acceptable poh. Ganun lang iyon. Talaga lang. Magtatanong kasi kung saan galing and yet, not acceptable sa tao na nagbabasa. Nagtanong pa siya.​

 

[dee-u]

Alam ko na hindi akin ito. Curious lang ako. Ano ang definition ng source? Nagbigay ang tao kung saan ipinagkukuhanan kasi pero nang binigay na, nagtatanong ka pa din?

Madali lang naman matagpuan sa online. Bible nga ay madali. Nasa bahay lang eh if meron, iyon na ang source and then kapag isinilip sa online, matatagpuan din siya.

Tanggapin na lang sa self na masakit at not acceptable poh. Ganun lang iyon. Talaga lang. Magtatanong kasi kung saan galing and yet, not acceptable sa tao na nagbabasa. Nagtanong pa siya.​

HIndi po yata kayo aware na ang burden of proof ay nandun sa nagke-claim? Wala po siyang ibinigay na source para sa kanyang claim.

 

[Asherah Goddess]

HIndi po yata kayo aware na ang burden of proof ay nandun sa nagke-claim? Wala po siyang ibinigay na source para sa kanyang claim.​

Ano ba ang definition ng "source"? Na confuse tuloy ako sa sinasabi mo.

Di ba ang source niyo is bible? O. Same lang kayo na meron source. Anong ipinagkaiba?

I mean bible ang inyo. Written content online ang kanya but same kayo ng written text. Nagkataon lang kasi na bible ang inyo. Online ang kanya. Wala din kasi burden of proof ang nagki claim ng kung sino sumulat ng bible. I mean same lang.... talaga lang. Yung source... ano ba talaga ang definition ng source as in?

Never mind na lang. Na confuse ako.​

 

[Penetration]

paliwanag mo kasi ng maayos, nabanggit kasi sa 1st commandment na " other gods " kaya indirectly nilang ina admit na may other gods ganun ba ?

 

[plhbg1]

paliwanag mo kasi ng maayos, nabanggit kasi sa 1st commandment na " other gods " kaya indirectly nilang ina admit na may other gods ganun ba ?

restriction ang main reason boss, hindi ang appearance ng phrase

 

[Penetration]

The first commandment admits that there are other gods.

So, why do christians deny the existence of other gods when their own god admits they exist?

 

[plhbg1]

The first commandment admits that there are other gods.

So, why do christians deny the existence of other gods when their own god admits they exist?

yes it admits other gods exist because of the restriction boss, why would he restrict something that doesn't exist

 

[Libra002]

meron kasing talata sa Bible na "tunay na Diyos" kung may tunay ibig sabihin may peke, baka ung fake God ang Tinutukoy jn sa ten commandments, palagay ko lng nmn un ha.

Tandaan mo, kng may puti may itim... saan ka dyn? kaya nga may demonyo, nasa bilble yan... Ang demonyo mapanlinlang tandaan mo yan... Get over... Sana naman hindi ka nalilinlang.

 

[Dys]

Tandaan mo, kng may puti may itim... saan ka dyn? kaya nga may demonyo, nasa bilble yan... Ang demonyo mapanlinlang tandaan mo yan... Get over... Sana naman hindi ka nalilinlang.

sinagot ko lng nmn ung tanong ni ts boss, ng naka depende sa pagkakaunawa nya dyan sa 1st commandments, iba din kasi ung pagkakaintindi ko dyan sa unang utos boss .

 

[MARKCLEM]

Baka mas magandang tanong eh may nag eexist bang kagaya nyang DIOS sagot wala " ibang dios" tinutukoy nya dun eh "bulaan" o mga pekeng Dios ngayun kung tinuturing mo sarili mo bilang Dios . Make sure alin ka dung Dios Na tinutukoy . IM PRETTY SURE BULAAN like quibuloy

 

[PHC_Komorebi]

The first commandment admits that there are other gods.

So, why do christians deny the existence of other gods when their own god admits they exist?

He is referring to false god or not equal to Him

 

[plhbg1]

He is referring to false god or not equal to Him

hehe sabi ko nga it doesn't matter if he declares those gods as fake, it still doesn't change the fact that he acknowledged the presence of those gods

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Red herring ka paps. Ikaw yung nag-claim tapos wala ka man lang source?

Alam mo ba kahulugan ng mga pinag sasasabi mo? Second, back read ka, may links jan. And lastly, do you question your belief as critically? I mean, jan mo binabase ang buhay mo sa belief na yan, did you think about proof and sources before believing?

 

[dee-u]

Alam mo ba kahulugan ng mga pinag sasasabi mo? Second, back read ka, may links jan. And lastly, do you question your belief as critically? I mean, jan mo binabase ang buhay mo sa belief na yan, did you think about proof and sources before believing?

Again, red herring ka pa rin paps. Ako ang nagtanong ng links, sa akin mo ibigay para basahin ko, ok?

 

[Zephyr_X]

Ito basi lng sa pag kaintindi ko at sa nababasa ko sa bibliya, testimony ng ibang tao at sasabihin ko lng na ang comment na ito ay pra lng sa pagkaintindi ko at hindi sa pag pepersuade.

Dalawa definition ng GOD:
Una Yung true God na dumaan ng process through crucifixion in order to save us by saving means my choice tayo na ma save through turning to him and turning to the spirit. (Reason bakit my crucifixion because GOD himself is to big for us to contain him kaya nagkatawang tao sya at dumaan sa process anyway kung curious ka sa reason basa lang ng bible. sa genesis plang malilito ka Kasi sabi Doon let's make man according to "our" image ibig Sabihin my ibang God pero Yung mystery Dito ay hindi sya modalism o tritheism bsta natatamad ako mag type. Hahaha)

Ikalawa Yung other Gods, ibig Sabihin na ni recognize/acknowledge nga na my other Gods but anyone and anything can be god Yung solar system can be, Yung kahoy can be, ako o ikaw can be. Anything na winoworship mo ay nagiging god, halimbawa a person na ina idolized mo Yung idolo sya na Yung god mo. Kung baga Dito ma identify mo na my ibang God kana pag nag start kana na mag worship. Even the things that you have your phone palagi mong gamit na woworship mo na yan, pati Sarili mo pride and ego na woworship mo Sarili mo. kaya nga Satan became fallen because he think of himself as God and that he can become a GOD.

Therefore, hindi dedeny ng GOD na my other Gods but rather to warn them na to worship the true GOD and not the false god (false god ay Yung nga wordly things gaya sa binangit ko sa 2nd definition; lahat ng para sa Mundo ay para lang sa Mundo at lahat ng para sa panginoo ay para sa panginoon) you cannot serve 2 master because mas mamahalin mo pa Yung isa kysa sa isa. Dito na papasok Yung question na kung my false god then who is the true God? My ebidensya ba? How can we know that the GOD we, you are worshiping is the genuine GOD? No! We don't know and I don't know who is Genuine but what I know is that spirit exist if you cultivate your spirit then you can feel it that there is a GOD. Malalaman mo Yung my mga grace na ng yayari sa Buhay mo.


You know what share ko lang nabasa ko to sa philosophy class namin 1st year ako nun at tumatak to sa utak ko. Nakalimutan ko kung sinong philosopher pero the very reason that we have this concept or idea of GOD is because para I get through tayo sa hardship for instance my sakit ka na malubha Sabihin natin cancer tapos e aasa mo nalang sa doctor Yung pagaling mo and then your doctor can only say 50% chance of survival or less sa tingin mo aasa ka sa doctor mo to get through you para maka survive? Or sa parents mo? Family mo? No, diba cause you already know the limitation of human being, then you will find ways, you will ask for miracles etc. anyway share ko lang hahaha.

Additional, it doesn't matter which GOD Yung winoworship natin, mahalaga Dito is that if the GOD you are worshiping is helpful to you. Kanya kanya tayo ng pag salba sa Sarili natin if ever natutuo na babalik ang panginoon after the consummation age. Pero ito lng masasabi ko habang my panahon it's your responsibility to find out the truth, kung baga if related sa spiritual yan Yung quest natin bilang tao.

 

[plhbg1]

Ikalawa Yung other Gods, ibig Sabihin na ni recognize/acknowledge nga na my other Gods but anyone and anything can be god Yung solar system can be, Yung kahoy can be, ako o ikaw can be. Anything na winoworship mo ay nagiging god, halimbawa a person na ina idolized mo Yung idolo sya na Yung god mo. Kung baga Dito ma identify mo na my ibang God kana pag nag start kana na mag worship. Even the things that you have your phone palagi mong gamit na woworship mo na yan, pati Sarili mo pride and ego na woworship mo Sarili mo. kaya nga Satan became fallen because he think of himself as God and that he can become a GOD.

Therefore, hindi dedeny ng GOD na my other Gods but rather to warn them na to worship the true GOD and not the false god (false god ay Yung nga wordly things gaya sa binangit ko sa 2nd definition; lahat ng para sa Mundo ay para lang sa Mundo at lahat ng para sa panginoo ay para sa panginoon) you cannot serve 2 master because mas mamahalin mo pa Yung isa kysa sa isa. Dito na papasok Yung question na kung my false god then who is the true God? My ebidensya ba? How can we know that the GOD we, you are worshiping is the genuine GOD? No! We don't know and I don't know who is Genuine but what I know is that spirit exist if you cultivate your spirit then you can feel it that there is a GOD. Malalaman mo Yung my mga grace na ng yayari sa Buhay mo.

yes the christian god knows about the presence of alternative god

You know what share ko lang nabasa ko to sa philosophy class namin 1st year ako nun at tumatak to sa utak ko. Nakalimutan ko kung sinong philosopher pero the very reason that we have this concept or idea of GOD is because para I get through tayo sa hardship for instance my sakit ka na malubha Sabihin natin cancer tapos e aasa mo nalang sa doctor Yung pagaling mo and then your doctor can only say 50% chance of survival or less sa tingin mo aasa ka sa doctor mo to get through you para maka survive? Or sa parents mo? Family mo? No, diba cause you already know the limitation of human being, then you will find ways, you will ask for miracles etc. anyway share ko lang hahaha.

Additional, it doesn't matter which GOD Yung winoworship natin, mahalaga Dito is that if the GOD you are worshiping is helpful to you. Kanya kanya tayo ng pag salba sa Sarili natin if ever natutuo na babalik ang panginoon after the consummation age. Pero ito lng masasabi ko habang my panahon it's your responsibility to find out the truth, kung baga if related sa spiritual yan Yung quest natin bilang tao.

yes, pumapasok ang magical thinking whenever solving a problem is not possible within reality, thanks for the detailed explanations boss

 

[charlx]

The first commandment admits that there are other gods.

So, why do christians deny the existence of other gods when their own god admits they exist?

From King James Version
Exodus 20
1 And God spake all these words, saying,

2 I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

Let me explain my take on these verses sir...

The third verse clearly implies that there are other gods that exist at the time of the exodus from Egypt, and for reference, Egypt have more than 2,000 deities with Horus as the main deity.

While it is true that Christians believe that there is only one God and Jesus as His Son, Christians do not deny the existence of other gods. The commandment simply stated that you should not WORSHIP other gods before Him.

And as the new testament said in Matthew 6:24-26 New International Version (NIV)

“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money."


And if atheists don't believe in God, it is their take, Christians are not bound in a way to to prove the existence of God, it is the atheists task to prove the contrary.

 

[plhbg1]

The third verse clearly implies that there are other gods that exist at the time of the exodus from Egypt, and for reference, Egypt have more than 2,000 deities with Horus as the main deity.

While it is true that Christians believe that there is only one God and Jesus as His Son, Christians do not deny the existence of other gods. The commandment simply stated that you should not WORSHIP other gods before Him.

And as the new testament said in Matthew 6:24-26 New International Version (NIV)

“No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money."

nice one boss for being a christian that acknowledges the alternative gods that humans can worship

And if atheists don't believe in God, it is their take, Christians are not bound in a way to to prove the existence of God, it is the atheists task to prove the contrary.

and nice one din dito since you don't agree on recruitment commanded by your god

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Again, red herring ka pa rin paps. Ako ang nagtanong ng links, sa akin mo ibigay para basahin ko, ok?

Dude, hindi mo ako pinapalamon para utusan mo. Debunk mo mga sinabi ko kung gusto mo, at kung masaya ka sa paniniwala mo kesa sa claim mo, then so be it. kesa nag aakusa ka ng mga salita na hindi mo alam ang kahulugan, dahil wala ka naman nadadagdag na ideya sa topic maliban sa opinyon mo tungkol sakin.

 

[dee-u]

Dude, hindi mo ako pinapalamon para utusan mo. Debunk mo mga sinabi ko kung gusto mo, at kung masaya ka sa paniniwala mo kesa sa claim mo, then so be it. kesa nag aakusa ka ng mga salita na hindi mo alam ang kahulugan, dahil wala ka naman nadadagdag na ideya sa topic maliban sa opinyon mo tungkol sakin.

Paps, Hitchen's Razor lang, "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence". Nag-claim ka, ngayong hinihingian kita ng source man lang ay kung anu-ano na ang sinasabi mo, which is red herring.