🕯️ Traditions Sino na niniwala sa The Book of Enoch?

[PHC Eren]

Mga loko-loko lang daw maniniwa sa lebro nya kaya nga ni removed sa sa bible.

 

[Swazhu]

The Abrahamic Religion with all its books are all primitive plagiarization and fiction. case closed. (Consider the era it appeared, it isn't that old in man's civilization)
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The Abrahamic Religions did not meet a God, they invented one for Political exigency.

 

[PHC Eren]

Pang anim na henerasyon si Enoch mula kay Adan at Eba, di nagkakalayo. Di pa marunong magsulat at magbasa noon ang mga tao kaya ang komunikasyon ng Dios sa tao nun ay sa pamamagitan lang ng pakikipag usap kaya paanong magkakaroon ng libro si Enoch kung di sya marunong magbasa at magsulat.

Correct me if i wrong, mostly po sa nag sulat po mga writer's ng bible ay no read no write at wala pong pinag aralan. Ang tanong po bakit sila nakapa sulat? Sagot po jan ni lelead po sila ng holy spirit para maka pag sulat sila ng mga ginawa ng Diyos, tao po sumukat ng bible na inspired kay God.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

The Abrahamic Religion with all its books are all primitive plagiarization and fiction. case closed. (Consider the era it appeared, it isn't that old in man's civilization)
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The Abrahamic Religions did not meet a God, they invented one for Political exigency.

Nung mRealize ko na ang pinaka lumang evidence ng existence ng bible ay yung Septuagint (LXX), political exigency tlga ang pinaka plausible na reason sa pagkakasulat nito. It used Plato's ideas as a framework. Mga idea nya ang extent ng scientific understanding in that era. This is comparable to us using some scientific data to uave political control today.

 

[plhbg1]

Pang anim na henerasyon si Enoch mula kay Adan at Eba, di nagkakalayo. Di pa marunong magsulat at magbasa noon ang mga tao kaya ang komunikasyon ng Dios sa tao nun ay sa pamamagitan lang ng pakikipag usap kaya paanong magkakaroon ng libro si Enoch kung di sya marunong magbasa at magsulat.

Correct me if i wrong, mostly po sa nag sulat po mga writer's ng bible ay no read no write at wala pong pinag aralan. Ang tanong po bakit sila nakapa sulat? Sagot po jan ni lelead po sila ng holy spirit para maka pag sulat sila ng mga ginawa ng Diyos, tao po sumukat ng bible na inspired kay God.

both of you are wrong, written language existed 5000 years ago, bible written 3000 years ago, there is no magic

 

[jheoung]

The Book of Enoch you've mentioned was not that Enoc in the 6th Gen B.C., It contains no spiritual and cannot be harmonized with the scriptures, and also did not pass the canon. Hindi sya e ni e remove dahil sa simula hindi na iyan kasali sa bibliya.

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

both of you are wrong, written language existed 5000 years ago, bible written 3000 years ago, there is no magic

Actually walang evidence of any bible version exceeding 400BC.. including the oT

 

[plhbg1]

Actually walang evidence of any bible version exceeding 400BC.. including the oT

so mas closer pa nga sa 2000 years ago ang bible, and all other biblical books which are rejected

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

so mas closer pa nga sa 2000 years ago ang bible, and all other biblical books which are rejected

Yup. Oldest remnant ng OT is close to the time of Plato, which is why many of the concepts are very similar (in some cases outright plagiarism).
The only so-called proof of anything existing beyond that is a letter claiming that such older books exist, in a time that Jews needed to validate their identity through a holy book tied with their culture.

 

[plhbg1]

Yup. Oldest remnant ng OT is close to the time of Plato, which is why many of the concepts are very similar (in some cases outright plagiarism).
The only so-called proof of anything existing beyond that is a letter claiming that such older books exist, in a time that Jews needed to validate their identity through a holy book tied with their culture.

inclined talaga ako sa Plato argument mo boss kasi bible is so philosophical, di yan scientific, and in the past mas influential ang philosophers kesa scientists

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

inclined talaga ako sa Plato argument mo boss kasi bible is so philosophical, di yan scientific, and in the past mas influential ang philosophers kesa scientists

Actually, philosophers were the scientists during that time, kung doon lang sa usapan ng origin ng mundo. Bit they are definitely influential because they professional public speakers. Yun ang livelihood nila.

 

[plhbg1]

Actually, philosophers were the scientists during that time, kung doon lang sa usapan ng origin ng mundo. Bit they are definitely influential because they professional public speakers. Yun ang livelihood nila.

baka ibig mo sabihin pseudo-scientists boss since philosophy existed long before science

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

baka ibig mo sabihin pseudo-scientists boss since philosophy existed long before science

Well, you are not wrong to say that. Pero mas fair siguro kung proto-scientists, dahil hanggang doon lng din nmn tlga ang capability ng science sa era nila.

 

[plhbg1]

Well, you are not wrong to say that. Pero mas fair siguro kung proto-scientists, dahil hanggang doon lng din nmn tlga ang capability ng science sa era nila.

pwede since philosophy claims to be science until the empirical science came into the picture to formally separate the two fields