🕯️ Traditions FAITH ALONE IS UNBIBLICAL

[PHC_Komorebi]

FAITH ALONE CONCEPT IS UNBIBLICAL! Hindi sapat na sumampalataya kalang tapos ligtas kana. Tapos kahit gagawa ka pa ng kasalanan ay ligtas ka pa rin?

Ano tawag ni apostol Santiago sa pananampalataya walang gawa? PATAY

Santiago 2:17​

17 Gayundin naman, patay ang pananampalatayang walang kalakip na gawa.

Paano nagiging sakdal ang pananampalataya? MAY KALAKIP NA GAWA

Santiago 2:22​

22 Nakikita mo na ang pananampalataya ay gumagawang kalakip ng kaniyang mga gawa, at sa pamamagitan ng mga gawa ay naging sakdal ang pananampalataya;

Aling gawa ang dapat ilakip? MABUBUTING GAWA

Efeso 2:10​

10 Sapagka't tayo'y kaniyang gawa, na nilalang kay Cristo Jesus para sa mabubuting gawa, na mga inihanda ng Dios nang una upang siya nating lakaran.

HUWAG PO NINYONG ILIGAW ANG MGA TAO SA MALING PANANAMPALATAYA.

 

[hilyas]

I completely agree with your statements. Faith is unholy, they say?

 

[RDennis32]

Salvation po ang goal ninyo sir no? Salvation is for those who believe in Jesus Christ - reflects and follows Jesus Christ. Building relationshiop with Him. Confessing sins each time we fall short daily and making sure we come back to the fold.

Religion however, cannot be your means as religion is run by men.

You need access to Jesus, through the Holy Spirit's help. Praying inside your room and speaking to God the father, asking for daily forgiveness of sins you form daily even in your thoughts.

Works will follow when your heart it turned to Jesus, but this is not your qualifier to Salvation. Works like you need to show others how Jesus is, by your actions, your warmth, the gifts of the Holy Spirit whom you ask help from will come out from you, you have to be accessible to people as Jesus was.

May nakita po akong REELS, ito po nag match sa sinasabi ko po.

 

[pjtedranes]

Ang Tunay na Kahulugan ng Sola Fide o "Faith Alone"
Ang literal na kahulugan ng "Sola Fide" (Latin) ay "Pananampalataya Lamang" (Tagalog) o "Faith Alone" (Ingles). Ang terminong ito ay islogan lamang patungkol sa doktrina ng Biblia hinggil sa pagaaring-ganap ayon sa biyaya (justification by Grace) sa pamamagitan lamang ng pananalig, hiwalay sa mga gawa ng Kautusan (Rom. 3:24-25, 28).

Ang terminong Sola Fide ay islogan lamang na ginagamit naming mga ebangheliko bilang representasyon sa kabuuang doktrina ng Biblia hinggil sa pagtatamo ng pagaaring-ganap ayon sa biyaya, hindi sa mga gawa (Tit. 3:5). Samakatuwid, ang Sola Fide ay sumasagot lamang sa katanungan kung paano maliligtas ang isang makasalanan sa darating na kahatulan ng Diyos. Hindi nito saklaw ang katanungan kung paano mamumuhay sa kabanalan ang isang tao matapos siyang magkaroon ng garantiya sa Kaligtasan. Yan po ang tunay na kahulugan ng Sola Fide na pilit binabaluktot at minimisrepresenta ng mga malisyosong kritiko na walang anumang nalalaman tungkol sa Biblikal na katuruan hinggil sa Kaligtasan.

Hindi po itinuturo ng Sola Fide na hindi na dapat gumawa ng mabuti ang tao magpakailanman. Bagkus, ang Sola Fide ay nangangahulugan na ang Kaligtasan mula sa kahatulan ng Diyos ay matatamo lamang ng tao sa pamamagitan ng pananalig, hindi sa pamamagitan ng mga gawa. Napakalaki po ng pagkakaiba ng "hindi sa pamamagitan ng mga gawa" kumpara sa "hindi na kailangang gumawa". Ang una ay patungkol sa pagtatamo ng Kaligtasan: "Na siyang sa atin ay nagligtas, at sa atin ay tumawag ng isang banal na pagtawag, hindi ayon sa ating mga gawa, kundi ayon sa kaniyang sariling akala at biyaya, na ibinigay sa atin kay Cristo Jesus buhat pa ng mga panahong walang hanggan" (2 Tim. 1:9). Samantalang ang huli nama'y bunga lamang ng malikot na isipan ng mga taong hindi lubos na nakakaunawa sa doktrina ng Sola Fide.

Ang sumatotal, kaming mga Ebangheliko ay naniniwalang sa biyaya lamang maaaring maligtas ang tao, hindi sa pamamagitan ng mga gawa, kundi sa pamamagitan lamang ng pananampalataya (Efe. 2:8-9). Ngunit ang taong naligtas sa biyaya ay lumalakad sa mabubuting gawa bilang bunga ng pagiging ligtas na (Efe. 2:10). Walang kinalaman ang mabubuting gawa ng mga tunay na Cristiano sa Kaligtasang natamo na nila sa pamamagitan ng pananampalataya, ngunit lumalakad sila sa kabanalan sapagka't sila'y "bago nang nilalang. Ang mga dating bagay ay lumipas na, narito, ang lahat ng bagay ay naging bago" (2 Cor. 5:17, SND).

Kaya po tigilan niyo na yang maling tsismis na napulot lang sa kanto

 

[RDennis32]

Ang Tunay na Kahulugan ng Sola Fide o "Faith Alone"
Ang literal na kahulugan ng "Sola Fide" (Latin) ay "Pananampalataya Lamang" (Tagalog) o "Faith Alone" (Ingles). Ang terminong ito ay islogan lamang patungkol sa doktrina ng Biblia hinggil sa pagaaring-ganap ayon sa biyaya (justification by Grace) sa pamamagitan lamang ng pananalig, hiwalay sa mga gawa ng Kautusan (Rom. 3:24-25, 28).

Ang terminong Sola Fide ay islogan lamang na ginagamit naming mga ebangheliko bilang representasyon sa kabuuang doktrina ng Biblia hinggil sa pagtatamo ng pagaaring-ganap ayon sa biyaya, hindi sa mga gawa (Tit. 3:5). Samakatuwid, ang Sola Fide ay sumasagot lamang sa katanungan kung paano maliligtas ang isang makasalanan sa darating na kahatulan ng Diyos. Hindi nito saklaw ang katanungan kung paano mamumuhay sa kabanalan ang isang tao matapos siyang magkaroon ng garantiya sa Kaligtasan. Yan po ang tunay na kahulugan ng Sola Fide na pilit binabaluktot at minimisrepresenta ng mga malisyosong kritiko na walang anumang nalalaman tungkol sa Biblikal na katuruan hinggil sa Kaligtasan.

Hindi po itinuturo ng Sola Fide na hindi na dapat gumawa ng mabuti ang tao magpakailanman. Bagkus, ang Sola Fide ay nangangahulugan na ang Kaligtasan mula sa kahatulan ng Diyos ay matatamo lamang ng tao sa pamamagitan ng pananalig, hindi sa pamamagitan ng mga gawa. Napakalaki po ng pagkakaiba ng "hindi sa pamamagitan ng mga gawa" kumpara sa "hindi na kailangang gumawa". Ang una ay patungkol sa pagtatamo ng Kaligtasan: "Na siyang sa atin ay nagligtas, at sa atin ay tumawag ng isang banal na pagtawag, hindi ayon sa ating mga gawa, kundi ayon sa kaniyang sariling akala at biyaya, na ibinigay sa atin kay Cristo Jesus buhat pa ng mga panahong walang hanggan" (2 Tim. 1:9). Samantalang ang huli nama'y bunga lamang ng malikot na isipan ng mga taong hindi lubos na nakakaunawa sa doktrina ng Sola Fide.

Ang sumatotal, kaming mga Ebangheliko ay naniniwalang sa biyaya lamang maaaring maligtas ang tao, hindi sa pamamagitan ng mga gawa, kundi sa pamamagitan lamang ng pananampalataya (Efe. 2:8-9). Ngunit ang taong naligtas sa biyaya ay lumalakad sa mabubuting gawa bilang bunga ng pagiging ligtas na (Efe. 2:10). Walang kinalaman ang mabubuting gawa ng mga tunay na Cristiano sa Kaligtasang natamo na nila sa pamamagitan ng pananampalataya, ngunit lumalakad sila sa kabanalan sapagka't sila'y "bago nang nilalang. Ang mga dating bagay ay lumipas na, narito, ang lahat ng bagay ay naging bago" (2 Cor. 5:17, SND).

Kaya po tigilan niyo na yang maling tsismis na napulot lang sa kanto

pasensya na sir ha, hirap ako sa tagalog na salita pero what I was able to understand is you are evangelical and you believe that salvation is by faith alone.

Same po tayo - kasi po tayo. Works are fruits of what you have become in from the perspective of knowing you are saved. You are thank ful and you want to honor Jesus for this grace of salvation - by doing good works.

Dahil sa love ni Jesus, you also began to love others -nauna ang diyos magpakita ng LOVE, so we also can give LOVE and that could just be your works.

Also, the story of the two thieves that were crucified along side Jesus, they obviously don't have time to do works to save themselves, but one of them was saved - by acknowledging his mistakes.

If you got that from being Evangelical, then good for you sir. Kasi nahit mo siya 100%. I am no authority on this, I am just saying, nag match siya sa alam ko.

Luke 23:32-43, (NAS95) 32 Two others also, who were criminals, were being led away to be put to death with Him. 33 When they came to the place called The Skull, there they crucified Him and the criminals, one on the right and the other on the left. 34 But Jesus was saying, "Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing." And they cast lots, dividing up His garments among themselves. 35 And the people stood by, looking on. And even the rulers were sneering at Him, saying, "He saved others; let Him save Himself if this is the Christ of God, His Chosen One." 36 The soldiers also mocked Him, coming up to Him, offering Him sour wine, 37 and saying, "If You are the King of the Jews, save Yourself!" 38 Now there was also an inscription above Him, "THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS." 39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, "Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!" 40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, "Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 "And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong." 42 And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!" 43 And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."

 

[pjtedranes]

pasensya na sir ha, hirap ako sa tagalog na salita pero what I was able to understand is you are evangelical and you believe that salvation is by faith alone.

Same po tayo - kasi po tayo. Works are fruits of what you have become in from the perspective of knowing you are saved. You are thank ful and you want to honor Jesus for this grace of salvation - by doing good works.

Dahil sa love ni Jesus, you also began to love others -nauna ang diyos magpakita ng LOVE, so we also can give LOVE and that could just be your works.

Also, the story of the two thieves that were crucified along side Jesus, they obviously don't have time to do works to save themselves, but one of them was saved - by acknowledging his mistakes.

If you got that from being Evangelical, then good for you sir. Kasi nahit mo siya 100%. I am no authority on this, I am just saying, nag match siya sa alam ko.

Luke 23:32-43, (NAS95) 32 Two others also, who were criminals, were being led away to be put to death with Him. 33 When they came to the place called The Skull, there they crucified Him and the criminals, one on the right and the other on the left. 34 But Jesus was saying, "Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing." And they cast lots, dividing up His garments among themselves. 35 And the people stood by, looking on. And even the rulers were sneering at Him, saying, "He saved others; let Him save Himself if this is the Christ of God, His Chosen One." 36 The soldiers also mocked Him, coming up to Him, offering Him sour wine, 37 and saying, "If You are the King of the Jews, save Yourself!" 38 Now there was also an inscription above Him, "THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS." 39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, "Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!" 40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, "Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 "And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong." 42 And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!" 43 And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."

Naiintindihan ko sir, yung OP mukhang hindi niya muna yata inaral ang history ng doctrine ng Sola Fide, tapos ginamit pa si Santiago eh ang kausap niya diyan sa context na yan ay mga Christian na

 

[plhbg1]

faith plus good works pala dapat? i thought sinabi dun sa literature na good works are just fruits of being saved

 

[pjtedranes]

faith plus good works pala dapat? i thought sinabi dun sa literature na good works are just fruits of being saved

Pakibasa na lang po uli ng post ko

 

[NOUGHT]

pasensya na sir ha, hirap ako sa tagalog na salita pero what I was able to understand is you are evangelical and you believe that salvation is by faith alone.

Same po tayo - kasi po tayo. Works are fruits of what you have become in from the perspective of knowing you are saved. You are thank ful and you want to honor Jesus for this grace of salvation - by doing good works.

Dahil sa love ni Jesus, you also began to love others -nauna ang diyos magpakita ng LOVE, so we also can give LOVE and that could just be your works.

Also, the story of the two thieves that were crucified along side Jesus, they obviously don't have time to do works to save themselves, but one of them was saved - by acknowledging his mistakes.

If you got that from being Evangelical, then good for you sir. Kasi nahit mo siya 100%. I am no authority on this, I am just saying, nag match siya sa alam ko.

Luke 23:32-43, (NAS95) 32 Two others also, who were criminals, were being led away to be put to death with Him. 33 When they came to the place called The Skull, there they crucified Him and the criminals, one on the right and the other on the left. 34 But Jesus was saying, "Father, forgive them; for they do not know what they are doing." And they cast lots, dividing up His garments among themselves. 35 And the people stood by, looking on. And even the rulers were sneering at Him, saying, "He saved others; let Him save Himself if this is the Christ of God, His Chosen One." 36 The soldiers also mocked Him, coming up to Him, offering Him sour wine, 37 and saying, "If You are the King of the Jews, save Yourself!" 38 Now there was also an inscription above Him, "THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS." 39 One of the criminals who were hanged there was hurling abuse at Him, saying, "Are You not the Christ? Save Yourself and us!" 40 But the other answered, and rebuking him said, "Do you not even fear God, since you are under the same sentence of condemnation? 41 "And we indeed are suffering justly, for we are receiving what we deserve for our deeds; but this man has done nothing wrong." 42 And he was saying, "Jesus, remember me when You come in Your kingdom!" 43 And He said to him, "Truly I say to you, today you shall be with Me in Paradise."

pwede po ba mag english ka nalang habang ako po ay tatagalogin ka

you are saved by grace and not by works at naniniwala ka sa once saved is always saved? pero pano ka po naligtas? nagpabautismo ka kaya naman ipinagkaloob sayo ang comforter na ipinadala ng anak sa pamamagitan nito nabuhay ka naman uli kaya kahit mamatay ka nung time na yun ligtas ka na

The Acts 5:3 But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

pero totoo ba na hindi ka na nagkakasala kung titignan mo yung isang mag asawa na naging born again pero hindi nila sinunod ang utos kaya sila ay namatay at nilibing born again na yan ligtas na sana sila pero naiwala pa nila salvation nila san na napunta yung osas
osas left the chat

Romans 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.
Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

pero kung hindi mo susundin ang utos ng Dios pano ka makakapasok kahit ligtas ka na

sa huli it is absolutely up to you basta po ako i already made up my mind naiintindihan ko na ang sinabi ni apostle paul sa romans 6-8 walang osas at wala rin faith alone and you are saved it needs to have works pero tandaan mo rin po gaya nga ng sabi apostle paul ang Dios po ay may karapatan sa lahat ng gusto niyang gawin gusto ka niyang iligtas mangyayari ito gusto niyang hindi ka maligtas at mangyayari din naman ito at wala tayong karapatan mag reklamo kailangan lang natin mag submit

we need to do the will of God habang may araw pa

wala po contradictions sa bible our understanding are the only contradiction
and the divided christian world is the living proof of that

 

[Kaplok Kaplok]

Kung totoo yung claim mo:

FAITH ALONE CONCEPT IS UNBIBLICAL! Hindi sapat na sumampalataya kalang tapos ligtas kana. Tapos kahit gagawa ka pa ng kasalanan ay ligtas ka pa rin?

It is not only unbiblical, but it is morally wrong according to many philosophies including secular ones. It could empower horrible people to do atrocities because they will always be "saved" by their faith.

 

[osuvpn]

Sa Kristiyanismo, ang pananampalataya at gawa ay parehong mahalagang aspeto ng pagiging isang mananampalataya. Ayon sa Bibliya, ang pananampalataya kay Jesu-Cristo ay ang daan sa kaligtasan. Halimbawa, sa Efeso 2:8-9 (NIV), sinasabi na, "For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—not by works, so that no one can boast." Ito ay nagpapahiwatig na ang kaligtasan ay isang regalo mula sa Diyos na natatanggap sa pamamagitan ng pananampalataya, hindi dahil sa ating mga gawa.

Gayunpaman, ang pananampalataya ay dapat ding magbunga ng mabubuting gawa. Sa Santiago 2:14-26, binibigyang-diin na ang pananampalataya na walang kasamang gawa ay patay. Sa talatang ito, ipinapaliwanag na ang tunay na pananampalataya ay dapat magpakita sa pamamagitan ng mga gawa ng pag-ibig at kabutihan. Halimbawa, sa Santiago 2:17 (NIV), sinasabi, "In the same way, faith by itself, if it is not accompanied by action, is dead."

Kaya, sa Kristiyanismo, ang paniniwala at gawa ay magkaugnay. Ang tunay na pananampalataya kay Jesu-Cristo ay nagbubunga ng pagbabago sa buhay ng isang tao, na nagpapakita sa pamamagitan ng mabubuting gawa. Ang mga gawang ito ay hindi ang dahilan ng kaligtasan, kundi ang bunga at patunay ng isang buhay na tunay na nananampalataya at sumusunod sa Diyos.