🔒 Closed PURGATORY IS UNBIBLICAL (BIBLE IS UNIVERSAL TRUTH)

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Bible is the universal truth. Bago pa madiskobre ng tao ang Great empty space in the north (search mo sa yt kung di mo pa po alam) ay nakasulat na ito daan daang taon na bago pa na ipinanganak ang Panginoong Jesucristo.



Job 26:7 King James Version (KJV)

He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, And hangeth the earth upon nothing.



Kaya, para sabihin na hindi mapagbabatayan tungkol sa purgatoryo ang Biblia ay maling mali.



About purgatoryo. Oo tama na wala sa Biblia at unbilical ito.



Basahin mo sa Mat. 25:31-34 at 41

Dalawa lang ang patutungohan ng tao pag namatay. Sa kanan at kaliwa. Ang tupa at kambing. Ang maliligtas at parurusahan. There's no middle ground what they so called purgatory. Ano ang parusa doon sa mga parurusahan?



Apoc. 21:8



Nguni't sa mga duwag, at sa mga hindi

mananampalataya, at sa mga kasuklamsuklam, at

sa mga mamamatay-tao, at sa mga mapakiapid, at

sa mga manggagaway, at sa mga mapagsamba sa

diosdiosan, at sa lahat na mga sinungaling, ang

kanilang bahagi ay sa dagatdagatang nagniningas

sa apoy at asupre; na siyang ikalawang kamatayan.
 
Tanong ko lang. Meron bang verse na pag mabuti kang tao, pupunta ka sa heaven pagkamatay?
Wala po yata, pero heto ang sabi sa Bible...
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:20)
 
Wala po yata, pero heto ang sabi sa Bible...
For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven. (Matthew 5:20)
Without the doctrine, mukang malubo mpunta sa conclusion na "heaven after death" ang tinutukoy niyan. "Entering the kingdom of heaven" can mean a lot of things.. it can mean being regarded as a true jew, an enlightened person like Jesus, or it could mean a living happy life similar to the idea of Eudaimonia proposed by Aristotle.

Like purgatory, the idea of heaven could be corrupted by wrong teaching. Which christians tend to want to believe just because that is what gives them comfort in the faith.
 
Without the doctrine, mukang malubo mpunta sa conclusion na "heaven after death" ang tinutukoy niyan. "Entering the kingdom of heaven" can mean a lot of things.. it can mean being regarded as a true jew, an enlightened person like Jesus, or it could mean a living happy life similar to the idea of Eudaimonia proposed by Aristotle.

Like purgatory, the idea of heaven could be corrupted by wrong teaching. Which christians tend to want to believe just because that is what gives them comfort in the faith.
Yun pong mga stuffs na binanggit nyo dito can totally derail sa topik po ng thread kapag ia-address ko bawat isa.

Pasensya po sa thread starter. Hindi ko po hangad mag off-topic.
 
Yun pong mga stuffs na binanggit nyo dito can totally derail sa topik po ng thread kapag ia-address ko bawat isa.

Pasensya po sa thread starter. Hindi ko po hangad mag off-topic.
not really out of topic. Purgatory is untrue to the bible, and so is to the belief in heavenly reward (which is only one example)...

It may not be the "amen" ts is longing for.. but it is the same topic.
 
yes kasi wala namang sapilitan iyan boss, i can worship purgatory without the need of priest's participation
Nge, mukhang dahilan mo nalang talaga para e defend side mo without knowing na parang todo effort ka sa walang kasiguradohan. Mga pari ang may gawa niyan tapos sasabihin mo kaya mong gawin without their participation? Kaya nga ginawa ng pari yan for profit purposes inamin nila yan sa kanilang libro mismo na may nihil obstat at imprimatur. Alamin mo na siguro yan. Paniniwala mo kasi nakabasi sa hangin 🙂
 
Nge, mukhang dahilan mo nalang talaga para e defend side mo without knowing na parang todo effort ka sa walang kasiguradohan. Mga pari ang may gawa niyan tapos sasabihin mo kaya mong gawin without their participation? Kaya nga ginawa ng pari yan for profit purposes inamin nila yan sa kanilang libro mismo na may nihil obstat at imprimatur. Alamin mo na siguro yan. Paniniwala mo kasi nakabasi sa hangin 🙂
kasi boss di rin naman sapilitan na maging catholic ka para maniwala ka sa purgatory, in fact i still put baptist as my religion on papers but no longer living as baptist, yun ang benefit ng walang sapilitan boss, kaya yang sinasabi mong nakunan ka ng pera sa religion is actually your choice ffs ikaw yung kusa nagbigay hindi ka pinilit na kunan ng pera when you can just declare purgatory is true with no money involved
 
kasi boss di rin naman sapilitan na maging catholic ka para maniwala ka sa purgatory, in fact i still put baptist as my religion on papers but no longer living as baptist, yun ang benefit ng walang sapilitan boss, kaya yang sinasabi mong nakunan ka ng pera sa religion is actually your choice ffs ikaw yung kusa nagbigay hindi ka pinilit na kunan ng pera when you can just declare purgatory is true with no money involved
Ano ba ibig mo sabihin na you're not longer living as a baptist? Eh bakit mo pa nilalagay, ano pa kwenta nun eh hindi ka nga naniniwala sa Biblia. pakunwari? Ganun ba? Kasi kung naniniwala ka bakit mo ipagtatanggol ang purgatoryo na hindi namn nakasulat sa Biblia?

Sure kaba na walang bayad ang magpadasal sa mga pari para mag misa sa mga patay at pumupunta sa sementeryo para manalangin? May class A class B panga yan. Dependi sa budget.
 
Ano ba ibig mo sabihin na you're not longer living as a baptist? Eh bakit mo pa nilalagay, ano pa kwenta nun eh hindi ka nga naniniwala sa Biblia. pakunwari? Ganun ba?
hehe wala ka pa siguro sapat na experience about job applications, i am using the baptist religion to deceive my employers and other agencies where i can get benefits for being a good person (goods na goods kasi pag christian walang hassle)
Kasi kung naniniwala ka bakit mo ipagtatanggol ang purgatoryo na hindi namn nakasulat sa Biblia?
just like your're asking a catholic bakit paniwala sila sa purgatory if di naman nakasulat sa holy book, if i am catholic that would be a hard question, but since i am not on any religion i can set whatever is right for me and that can include purgatory
Sure kaba na walang bayad ang magpadasal sa mga pari para mag misa sa mga patay at pumupunta sa sementeryo para manalangin? May class A class B panga yan. Dependi sa budget.
no need na ako magpa misa at pumunta sa sementaryo para maniwala sa purgatory boss, i can declare whatever is right for me, i am the owner of my life
 
hehe wala ka pa siguro sapat na experience about job applications, i am using the baptist religion to deceive my employers and other agencies where i can get benefits for being a good person (goods na goods kasi pag christian walang hassle)

just like your're asking a catholic bakit paniwala sila sa purgatory if di naman nakasulat sa holy book, if i am catholic that would be a hard question, but since i am not on any religion i can set whatever is right for me and that can include purgatory

no need na ako magpa misa at pumunta sa sementaryo para maniwala sa purgatory boss, i can declare whatever is right for me, i am the owner of my life
Yung pinaguusapan natin dito yung bayad. Kasi sinabi mo di sapilitan 🙂

Yun nga bible ang
hehe wala ka pa siguro sapat na experience about job applications, i am using the baptist religion to deceive my employers and other agencies where i can get benefits for being a good person (goods na goods kasi pag christian walang hassle)

just like your're asking a catholic bakit paniwala sila sa purgatory if di naman nakasulat sa holy book, if i am catholic that would be a hard question, but since i am not on any religion i can set whatever is right for me and that can include purgatory

no need na ako magpa misa at pumunta sa sementaryo para maniwala sa purgatory boss, i can declare whatever is right for me, i am the owner of my life
Yun na nga. Biblia ang pangunahing saligan nila. Pero bakit lumalagpas sila sa mga aral na di nakasulat sa Biblia?

hehe wala ka pa siguro sapat na experience about job applications, i am using the baptist religion to deceive my employers and other agencies where i can get benefits for being a good person (goods na goods kasi pag christian walang hassle)

just like your're asking a catholic bakit paniwala sila sa purgatory if di naman nakasulat sa holy book, if i am catholic that would be a hard question, but since i am not on any religion i can set whatever is right for me and that can include purgatory

no need na ako magpa misa at pumunta sa sementaryo para maniwala sa purgatory boss, i can declare whatever is right for me, i am the owner of my life
Ahh. Meaning hypocrite kalang pala. Yun pagkakaintindi ko sa paliwanag mo 🙂
 
Yung pinaguusapan natin dito yung bayad. Kasi sinabi mo di sapilitan 🙂
yes walang sapilitan, kasi if sapilitan aba isa na ako sa nagbayad, kaya nga sabi ko di naman sila nangha-harass, religion is not using force boss, all memberships are purely voluntary
Yun na nga. Biblia ang pangunahing saligan nila. Pero bakit lumalagpas sila sa mga aral na di nakasulat sa Biblia?
it is because ikaw ang nagtatanong, in reality, they can ask that same question to you like bakit bible lang basihan niyo kahit meron pang ibang turo outside the bible, in fact ako din as a person with no religion can ask you that same question like bakit kailangan pa isulat sa bible for you to believe in something
Ahh. Meaning hypocrite kalang pala. Yun pagkakaintindi ko sa paliwanag mo 🙂
intentional hypocrisy ito, iba ito sa hypocrisy ninyo which is un-intentional, i lie to people, i deceive people to compete and survive in this evolutionary chain, kill or be killed, survival of the fittest
 
yes walang sapilitan, kasi if sapilitan aba isa na ako sa nagbayad, kaya nga sabi ko di naman sila nangha-harass, religion is not using force boss, all memberships are purely voluntary

it is because ikaw ang nagtatanong, in reality, they can ask that same question to you like bakit bible lang basihan niyo kahit meron pang ibang turo outside the bible, in fact ako din as a person with no religion can ask you that same question like bakit kailangan pa isulat sa bible for you to believe in something

intentional hypocrisy ito, iba ito sa hypocrisy ninyo which is un-intentional, i lie to people, i deceive people to compete and survive in this evolutionary chain, kill or be killed, survival of the fittest
Romans 1:21

They know God, but they do not give him the honor that belongs to him, nor do they thank him. Instead, their thoughts have become complete nonsense, and their empty minds are filled with darkness.
 
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