🕯️ Traditions How to discern false prophets and false apostles

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sabi ko nga gusto kong kausap yung meron alam kaya wag ka mag reply if wala kang alam
Ayaw mo lang ako kausap kasi basag ka sakin. Gusto mo kasi ikaw nambubully ng mga theist dito. Ano? Akala ko ba gusto mo ginigisa opinion mo? At saka ikaw ang unang nagreply sakin, diba? Bakit ngayon parang ako pa nagsimula nito?
 
Ayaw mo lang ako kausap kasi basag ka sakin. Gusto mo kasi ikaw nambubully ng mga theist dito. Ano? Akala ko ba gusto mo ginigisa opinion mo? At saka ikaw ang unang nagreply sakin, diba? Bakit ngayon parang ako pa nagsimula nito?
ahaha di kita pagbibigyan sa hinihingi mo, masyadong basic (first coming and 2nd coming) di mo alam asan sa bible haha tapos may pasabing basag haha
 
ahaha di kita pagbibigyan sa hinihingi mo, masyadong basic (first coming and 2nd coming) di mo alam asan sa bible haha tapos may pasabing basag haha
Wala nmn ako hinihingi. Kung binasa mo yung tanong ko, at gagamitin ang utak, hindi yan ang punto. Pero sige hanapin natin sa bible ha..

Matthew 24:42-44 ESV
Therefore, stay awake, for you do not know on what day your Lord is coming. But know this, that if the master of the house had known in what part of the night the thief was coming, he would have stayed awake and would not have let his house be broken into. Therefore you also must be ready, for the Son of Man is coming at an hour you do not expect.

Son of Man daw diba. Saan dyan yung teorya mo na God sya babalik?

At saka sa totoo lang, wala nmn din ako pakialam kung ang paniniwala ay God or man siya babalik, dahil parehas yan hindi ko pinaniniwalaan sa paraan na itinuturo ng simbahan. Ang sabi ko nga paradox yan turo na yan. Kaya, wag kang umasta na parang pinipilit kita maniwala. Ikaw ang mayroong claim dyan, kaya ikaw ang obligadong magpatunay ng claim mo.
 
Son of Man daw diba. Saan dyan yung teorya mo na God sya babalik?

At saka sa totoo lang, wala nmn din ako pakialam kung ang paniniwala ay God or man siya babalik, dahil parehas yan hindi ko pinaniniwalaan sa paraan na itinuturo ng simbahan. Ang sabi ko nga paradox yan turo na yan. Kaya, wag kang umasta na parang pinipilit kita maniwala. Ikaw ang mayroong claim dyan, kaya ikaw ang obligadong magpatunay ng claim mo.
sinabi ko na sa iyo na you can call it any way you want, i only use the god word to show an opposition to the first coming which is the very opposite of being god, hehe naniwala ka talaga na naniwala ako na god talaga siya? hehe
 
sinabi ko na sa iyo na you can call it any way you want, i only use the god word to show an opposition to the first coming which is the very opposite of being god, hehe naniwala ka talaga na naniwala ako na god talaga siya? hehe
Alam kong hindi ka naniniwala. So ang sinasabi mo, ikaw ang sumasagot para sakanila? Ganun ba? Kahit hindi mo nmn tlga alam sinasabi mo? Ayos ka din ano..
 
Alam kong hindi ka naniniwala. So ang sinasabi mo, ikaw ang sumasagot para sakanila? Ganun ba? Kahit hindi mo nmn tlga alam sinasabi mo? Ayos ka din ano..
hehe kung hindi ko alam i would just have agreed to the history repeating as the writers' intention
 
a wrong logical explanation can always be rejected hehe
Eto ano masasabi mo sa view ko tlga.
Pero bilang isang atheist, pra sakin isa itong metaphor na maging handa sa kung ano mang hamon, o "test" na dadating sa buhay mo. Not necessarily pagbabalik Niya. Kasi constantly tayo magdadaan sa "paghuhukom" sa buhay natin, at ang resulta ay dedepende sa mga gawa natin bago dumating doon, at kung paano natin isinabatas ang mga "salita" niya.
 
nakita ko iyan pero di ko ma-gets kaya di ko pinansin
Hindi ba mas dapat mong bigyan ng attensyon yung mga bagay na hindi mo pa naiintindihan? Kasi, kung ung alam mo lng din ung papansinin mo, wala ka n bago matutunan. Pero that is just my thought. Ewan ko kung pano sayo.
Anyways, bahala ka na jan.
 
Hindi ba mas dapat mong bigyan ng attensyon yung mga bagay na hindi mo pa naiintindihan? Kasi, kung ung alam mo lng din ung papansinin mo, wala ka n bago matutunan. Pero that is just my thought. Ewan ko kung pano sayo.
Anyways, bahala ka na jan.
dalawa kasi requirement ko: unknown to me plus interesting hehe
 
dalawa kasi requirement ko: unknown to me plus interesting hehe
Okay. Weird thing about "interest", it is subjective. You will never know na interesado k sa mga bagay hanggang kailangan mo na sya.
Interest in not a property of the subject, but the a property of the mind. Strong minds controls its own interests.
Example is religion, you dont accidentally just become interested. Either you willingly subject your self to it, or, by necessity when desperate.
 
Okay. Weird thing about "interest", it is subjective. You will never know na interesado k sa mga bagay hanggang kailangan mo na sya.
Interest in not a property of the subject, but the a property of the mind. Strong minds controls its own interests.
Example is religion, you dont accidentally just become interested. Either you willingly subject your self to it, or, by necessity when desperate.
yeah it's subjective, so i can change it as always, i may not be interested for now but it could change, so delay is always an option for me depending on the arrival of the reason/motivation, malay natin ma-convince mo ako hehe
 
yeah it's subjective, so i can change it as always, i may not be interested for now but it could change, so delay is always an option for me depending on the arrival of the reason/motivation, malay natin ma-convince mo ako hehe
Yan ang dahilan kung bakit yung verse na yun said you should be prepared because he can "return" anytime. Because like you, most people like to procrastinate.

I mean I dont really blame you. Most people are like you. Naghihintay lang ng tamang motivation to even try to find truth. For some, it's too late.

To be honest, the "truth" is not hard to understand. The hard part is convincing yourself in the first place that you need it.
 
Yan ang dahilan kung bakit yung verse na yun said you should be prepared because he can "return" anytime. Because like you, most people like to procrastinate.

I mean I dont really blame you. Most people are like you. Naghihintay lang ng tamang motivation to even try to find truth. For some, it's too late.

To be honest, the "truth" is not hard to understand. The hard part is convincing yourself in the first place that you need it.
that's the founding trait of agnosticism, being ready to commit but reason first before committing, bible kasi palaging today is the day kaya naba-bypass yung reasons
 
that's the founding trait of agnosticism, being ready to commit but reason first before committing, bible kasi palaging today is the day kaya naba-bypass yung reasons
I agree a little bit. Naniniwala ako, now is always the perfect time. But, gaya ng sabi mo nawawala ung sense nya or "nababy-pass" pag naging pananakot. Like "the rapture is coming." Or anything doomsday related.
Kasi kung totoo yan, madidivide lang ang mga tao. Yung first half matatakot, i guess effective para sakanila, the second half will party anyway, like how we celebrated 2012 new year.
 
I agree a little bit. Naniniwala ako, now is always the perfect time. But, gaya ng sabi mo nawawala ung sense nya or "nababy-pass" pag naging pananakot. Like "the rapture is coming." Or anything doomsday related.
Kasi kung totoo yan, madidivide lang ang mga tao. Yung first half matatakot, i guess effective para sakanila, the second half will party anyway, like how we celebrated 2012 new year.
naintindihan ko naman yung mga writers kasi sa time na iyon hindi christianity ang unang religion, kaya they need to threaten to penetrate
 
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